GreentheViper's 23andMe results

[GreentheViper]

Still a mutt :lol:

http://i68.tinypic.com/zo6f6.jpg

[Kriptc06]

So much native man! I wonder how do you look, congrats on the results

[Grace O'Malley]

Still a mutt :lol:

http://i68.tinypic.com/zo6f6.jpg

Did you get any regions? I've got a whole load of Irish and UK regions in my results.

[Gangrel]

Is your native not first nations? Why tf did u get Mexico as first match lol

[Ayetooey]

U are more British than me congratz.

[GreentheViper]

Did you get any regions? I've got a whole load of Irish and UK regions in my results.

I'm new to the 23 region thing, compared to the Ancestry thing, how do I find that out?

[GreentheViper]

Is your native not first nations? Why tf did u get Mexico as first match lol

Nah it's from Mexico lol

[Zuh]

So much native man! I wonder how do you look, congrats on the results

I wonder too so far he has zero knowledge of his dad that fact he's Sub-saharan ancestry is very low makes me assumed he's dad was native. I know some half Mexicans and white Americans who are in that 90% Euro range.

[Kriptc06]

I wonder too so far he has zero knowledge of his dad that fact he's Sub-saharan ancestry is very low makes me assumed he's dad was native. I know some half Mexicans and white Americans who are in that 90% Euro range.

his mother was likely fully european, add iberian+southern european+native+ssa, it gets close to 50%

[Zuh]

his mother was likely fully european, add iberian+southern european+native+ssa, it gets close to 50%

Not even close dude that average Mexican mestizo is genetically 50-60% white so let's make math here each parents gives only 50% so her mother gave him 50 + Euro ancestry if he's dad was average Mexican he should've inhered 30's something .

Equal total European ancestry should've been 80+s something that rest native.

[StonyArabia]

Cool results so you are half Anglo Canadian half Mexican ?

[Kriptc06]

Not even close dude that average Mexican mestizo is genetically 50-60% white so let's make math here each parents gives only 50% so her mother gave him 50 + Euro ancestry if he's dad was average Mexican he should've inhered 30's something .

Equal total European ancestry should've been 80+s something that rest native.

I still place my bet on my hypothesis xD, DNA inheritance isn't exact math anyway.

[Token]

Nice, i wonder how you look like.

[GreentheViper]

Cool results so you are half Anglo Canadian half Mexican ?

Yeah

[GreentheViper]

Nice, i wonder how you look like.

I've been classified as Atlanto-Med + Amerindian sometimes Alpine + Amerindian

[Zuh]

I still place my bet on my hypothesis xD, DNA inheritance isn't exact math anyway.

Appearance don't work as same as genetics you inhered .

[StonyArabia]

I've been classified as Atlanto-Med + Amerindian sometimes Alpine + Amerindian

I thought you were Metis. Have people mistake you as one ?

[Kriptc06]

Appearance don't work as same as genetics you inhered .

that as well, but both are randomic, let's say your father is a 1/4 an ethnicity, theoretically and genetically speaking, this doesnt mean at all that you are 1/8 genetically, you could be more or less than 1/8

[GreentheViper]

I thought you were Metis. Have people mistake you as one ?

Most people on here think I'm Metis when I say I'm European and Native lol.

There aren't many where I live, more in Manitoba I think. Most people I've met said I look Spanish or Portuguese, but you can't really trust the general populace's classifications :lol:

[Token]

that as well, but both are randomic, let's say your father is a 1/4 an ethnicity, theoretically and genetically speaking, this doesnt mean at all that you are 1/8 genetically, you could be more or less than 1/8

The differences will be very small and statistically insignificant.

[Carpatz]

Nice. So I assume your Mexican parent is mostly indigenous?

[GreentheViper]

Nice. So I assume your Mexican parent is mostly indigenous?

I don't really know to be honest, that side looks like the average Mexican Mestizos, but I don't know much about their lineage and none of them have taken any tests.

[Bosniensis]

You don't have to worry about Migrants, can't corrupt ya.. hahahah

[StonyArabia]

Most people on here think I'm Metis when I say I'm European and Native lol.

There aren't many where I live, more in Manitoba I think. Most people I've met said I look Spanish or Portuguese, but you can't really trust the general populace's classifications :lol:

Ah I see. Well Metis many look white or off white usually having Amerindian features but with light hair often blond brownish. They tend to look lighter than Mestizos, unless first generation where they can look the same. Interesting. There is a lot of Iberian blood in whites in the maritimes.

[Leto]

Why not in the 23andme section? Request a move.

Judging by your results, you might be around 1/8 Spanish which was completely ignored by Ancestry. What haplogroups did they assign to you?

[GreentheViper]

Why not in the 23andme section? Request a move.

Judging by your results, you might be around 1/8 Spanish which was completely ignored by Ancestry. What haplogroups did they assign to you?

Ah it's alright, if an admin sees it they can move it but I don't think it's bothering anyone here.

Yeah, the new update by ancestry didn't take into account the Spanish which sucked. Q-M3 for paternal and H1 for maternal

[Gründig]

Richmond's wet dream.

[GreentheViper]

Richmond's wet dream.

Don't let him see it, he might get jealous.

[Kriptc06]

The differences will be very small and statistically insignificant.

If you say 1% or less than 1% is insignificant. Okie doke. Statistics is indeed a funny part of mathematics, and I particularly like the theory of chaos, the slight difference makes a huge difference. Did you know that statistically speaking the chance of we being born is so tiny that we should not even have been born? A slightly shift in the past could cause us not to exit? So a tiny number is relevant, is it not? At least in the bigger picture.

Either way.. Ask a physician or a mathematician if 24.2 = 25?, This tiny "insignificant" discrepancy is the difference between a building standing or collapsing, and oh a boy tiny number also make a whole mess in physics calculations... Imagine you calculate the route of an airplane wrong and round the numbers relating to fuel supply, the airplane could go down.. so for me it matters, I guess we see it different then. good day sir.

[Rædwald]

Interesting that your 23andMe result gives you a higher Amerindian than your AncestryDNA result.

[Zuh]

Don't let him see it, he might get jealous.

I want to see your results by Gedmatch please upload it and shared it your black Sub-saharan it is very low .

[Token]

If you say 1% or less than 1% is insignificant. Okie doke. Statistic is indeed a funny part of mathematics, and I particularly like the theory of chaos, the slight difference make a huge difference. Did you know that statistically speaking the chance of we being born is so tiny that we should not even have been born? A slightly shift in the past could cause you to not exit? so a tiny number is relevant is it not? at least in the bigger picture.

Either way.. Ask a physician or a mathematician if 24,2 = 25?, This tiny "insignificant" discrepancy is the difference of a building standing or collapsing, and oh a boy tiny number also make a whole mess in physics calculations... imagine you calculate the route of an airplane wrong and round the number relating to fuel supply, the airplane could go down.. so for me it matters, I guess we see it different then. good day sir.

By statistically insignificant i mean that the difference would be within the standard deviation margin in formal admixture tests. The difference would be so tiny that you'd not be able to mathematically prove it, even if it may be there, because the difference will be always smaller than the confidence interval. Summing it up, your auDNA will still be an perfect intermediate between your parents for any admixture algorithm in existence.

[nittionia]

awesome results (:

[Bogdan]

Interesting to see your results.

[GreentheViper]

I want to see your results by Gedmatch please upload it and shared it your black Sub-saharan it is very low .

Which calculator?

[GreentheViper]

Interesting that your 23andMe result gives you a higher Amerindian than your AncestryDNA result.

It actually gives me less, interestingly enough, Ancestry gave me 36% with the update and 23 is 34%, unlesss the 2% unassigned is also Native lol

[Zuh]

Which calculator?

Gedmatch raw data. K13

[GreentheViper]

Gedmatch raw data. K13

This is my K13 using 23andMe's raw data:

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 31.30
2 North_Atlantic 26.88
3 Baltic 18.58
4 West_Med 10.99
5 East_Med 4.26
6 West_Asian 2.20
7 South_Asian 2.12
8 Siberian 1.62
9 Sub-Saharan 1.34

[Zuh]

This is my K13 using 23andMe's raw data:

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 31.30
2 North_Atlantic 26.88
3 Baltic 18.58
4 West_Med 10.99
5 East_Med 4.26
6 West_Asian 2.20
7 South_Asian 2.12
8 Siberian 1.62
9 Sub-Saharan 1.34

Thank you so much for posting this yeah your African didn't go up also I would say you are exactly 31.30 native which is more accurate from Gedmatch.

[Cristiano viejo]

6,5% Iberian... well, less is nothing :rolleyes:

[GreentheViper]

6,5% Iberian... well, less is nothing :rolleyes:

Broadly Southern European is most likely Iberian as well, as far as I know.

[Cristiano viejo]

Broadly Southern European is most likely Iberian as well, as far as I know.

It is Italian.

[GreentheViper]

It is Italian.

You know so surely?

[Cristiano viejo]

You know so surely?

Because we Spaniards are Central Europeans.

[Ayetooey]

Because we Spaniards are Central Europeans.

You should post your dna test results.

[Cristiano viejo]

You should post your dna test results.

What for?

[Ayetooey]

What for?

Why not? I've always wanted to see a pure bred central Europeans results. Would be interesting. Have you taken a test?

[GreentheViper]

Because we Spaniards are Central Europeans.

Well, this is what 23andMe gives as "Southern European", and based on what I know, it's most likely Iberian.

http://i67.tinypic.com/242v0i0.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Why not? I've always wanted to see a pure bred central Europeans results. Would be interesting. Have you taken a test?

I am not a big fan of genetic and less even of all these tests.

[Latinus]

Spaniards are Central Europeans? That's news to me.

[Profileid]

Ah it's alright, if an admin sees it they can move it but I don't think it's bothering anyone here.

Yeah, the new update by ancestry didn't take into account the Spanish which sucked. Q-M3 for paternal and H1 for maternal

You have native y-dna? That's pretty cool. Not very common among mestizos even.
Your dad was probably between 65-80% native.

[Cristiano viejo]

Spaniards are Central Europeans? That's news to me.

Clearly Central Europeans
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8025/7608896776_68881b6829_b.jpg
https://evolutionistx.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/genetic_map_of_europe.png

[GreentheViper]

You have native y-dna? That's pretty cool. Not very common among mestizos even.
Your dad was probably between 65-80% native.

Possibly, it's hard to say because I barely know anything about his lineage. I know that he looks like a Mestizo, but phenotype doesn't always equal genetics. It could be further down his line perhaps.

[Leto]

This is my K13 using 23andMe's raw data:

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 31.30
2 North_Atlantic 26.88
3 Baltic 18.58
4 West_Med 10.99
5 East_Med 4.26
6 West_Asian 2.20
7 South_Asian 2.12
8 Siberian 1.62
9 Sub-Saharan 1.34
Can you post the remaining percentages? I want to compare with your Ancestry data

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 31.27
2 North_Atlantic 27.34
3 Baltic 16.83
4 West_Med 10.83
5 East_Med 3.69
6 West_Asian 3.08
7 Siberian 1.81
8 South_Asian 1.34
9 Northeast_African 1.26
10 East_Asian 1.02
11 Red_Sea 0.88
12 Oceanian 0.38

[GreentheViper]

Can you post the remaining percentages? I want to compare with your Ancestry data

# Population Percent
1 Amerindian 31.27
2 North_Atlantic 27.34
3 Baltic 16.83
4 West_Med 10.83
5 East_Med 3.69
6 West_Asian 3.08
7 Siberian 1.81
8 South_Asian 1.34
9 Northeast_African 1.26
10 East_Asian 1.02
11 Red_Sea 0.88
12 Oceanian 0.38

Remaining percentages of what?

[Leto]

Remaining percentages of what?
You left out the values below 1 percent. I want to see all the 13 components please.

[GreentheViper]

You left out the values below 1 percent. I want to see all the 13 components please.

Oh you're right, I took it from the Oracle, that's why.






Population
North_Atlantic 26.88
Baltic 18.58
West_Med 10.99
West_Asian 2.20
East_Med 4.26
Red_Sea 0.08
South_Asian 2.12
East_Asian 0.65
Siberian 1.62
Amerindian 31.30
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.34

[Leto]

Oh you're right, I took it from the Oracle, that's why.






Population
North_Atlantic 26.88
Baltic 18.58
West_Med 10.99
West_Asian 2.20
East_Med 4.26
Red_Sea 0.08
South_Asian 2.12
East_Asian 0.65
Siberian 1.62
Amerindian 31.30
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.34
Interesting how with the new data the NE African was completely replaced with the SSA. Just goes to show the NE African component is indeed black, not Caucasoid.

[Zuh]

Oh you're right, I took it from the Oracle, that's why.






Population
North_Atlantic 26.88
Baltic 18.58
West_Med 10.99
West_Asian 2.20
East_Med 4.26
Red_Sea 0.08
South_Asian 2.12
East_Asian 0.65
Siberian 1.62
Amerindian 31.30
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.34

Looking at your chart from this method seems like you are almost 70% Caucasoid.

[GreentheViper]

Looking at your chart from this method seems like you are almost 70% Caucasoid.

Cool

[Mortimer]

congrats

[Coastal Elite]

Very cool mix! I have a cousin kinda like you who is half Irish, half Mexican.

[Mingle]

So your Native American parent must be like 80%+ Amerindian?

[GreentheViper]

So your Native American parent must be like 80%+ Amerindian?

I don't know, maybe

[Erronkari]

Cool results. Congrats! ;)

[Leto]

Compare with her results. She looks quite white to me

https://youtu.be/8XuVyswen00

European 71.0%
- French & German 20.7%
- Iberian 11.3%
- British & Irish (United Kingdom) 10.5%
- Italian 0.1%
- Broadly Southern European 15.6%
- Broadly Northwestern European 8.3%
- Broadly European 4.6%

East Asian & Native American 22.4%
- Native American (Mexico) 20.4%
- Broadly Northern Asian & Native American 1.5%
- Broadly Chinese & Southeast Asian 0.1%
- Broadly East Asian & Native American 0.5%

Sub-Saharan African 3.6%
- Senegambian & Guinean 1.3%
- Coastal West African 0.4%
- Nigerian 0.4%
- Congolese 0.1%
- Broadly Congolese & Southern East African 0.3%
- Broadly West African 0.1%
- Broadly Sub-Saharan African 1.0%

Western Asian & North African 0.2%

Unassigned 3.8%

https://www.instagram.com/vanessaanne00/?hl=en

[Kriptc06]

By statistically insignificant i mean that the difference would be within the standard deviation margin in formal admixture tests. The difference would be so tiny that you'd not be able to mathematically prove it, even if it may be there, because the difference will be always smaller than the confidence interval. Summing it up, your auDNA will still be an perfect intermediate between your parents for any admixture algorithm in existence.

I still don't agree with "irrelevance" in mathematical terms, if you want to see it philosophically fine then. Yes you are/should have half of your parents genetic material (nuclear DNA), although recombined in an unique way, like a card deck flip, but you cannot say you are exactly a quarter of each your grandparents, genetically, it simple isn't the case, statistics is funny cause of that, it tries to predict what seems unpredictable. But sure you can think it as philosophically irrelevant, but it's not my point here.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Most people on here think I'm Metis when I say I'm European and Native lol.

There aren't many where I live, more in Manitoba I think. Most people I've met said I look Spanish or Portuguese, but you can't really trust the general populace's classifications :lol:

Can't trust anyone on TA either so you're screwed buddy

[GreentheViper]

Compare with her results. She looks quite white to me

https://youtu.be/8XuVyswen00

European 71.0%
- French & German 20.7%
- Iberian 11.3%
- British & Irish (United Kingdom) 10.5%
- Italian 0.1%
- Broadly Southern European 15.6%
- Broadly Northwestern European 8.3%
- Broadly European 4.6%

East Asian & Native American 22.4%
- Native American (Mexico) 20.4%
- Broadly Northern Asian & Native American 1.5%
- Broadly Chinese & Southeast Asian 0.1%
- Broadly East Asian & Native American 0.5%

Sub-Saharan African 3.6%
- Senegambian & Guinean 1.3%
- Coastal West African 0.4%
- Nigerian 0.4%
- Congolese 0.1%
- Broadly Congolese & Southern East African 0.3%
- Broadly West African 0.1%
- Broadly Sub-Saharan African 1.0%

Western Asian & North African 0.2%

Unassigned 3.8%

https://www.instagram.com/vanessaanne00/?hl=en

Yeah, I think she would be considered a Castiza in Mexico. She's got 9% more European DNA than I do, and I have higher amounts of Native. Also I don't have as much African in me.

If you're talking about phenotype; I have slightly lighter hair, my eyes are a light brown instead of the bluish I think she has, and my skin is more olive than her's but she might be using makeup, I can't tell :lol:

[Dandelion]

Scoring high on 'injun' is considered cool. Congrats.

[Leto]

Yeah, I think she would be considered a Castiza in Mexico. She's got 9% more European DNA than I do, and I have higher amounts of Native. Also I don't have as much African in me.

If you're talking about phenotype; I have slightly lighter hair, my eyes are a light brown instead of the bluish I think she has, and my skin is more olive than her's but she might be using makeup, I can't tell :lol:
So you actually pass as kind of whiteish? Would the Donald recognize the Mexican in you? ;)

[GreentheViper]

So you actually pass as kind of whiteish? Would the Donald recognize the Mexican in you? ;)

If Don was an anthronerd he might see the Mexican, he would probably classify me as Southern European lol

[Leto]

If Don was an anthronerd he might see the Mexican, he would probably classify me as Southern European lol
I think if you marry a Northern European girl, your kid would also look Northern.