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Bosniensis
12-25-2018, 06:36 PM
Bosniensis:

Proto-Etruscan/Greek + Proto-Slavic

Penalty: 0.001 (0.0) is identical (almost)

Anatolia 8300-7900 BC 55.83%
Caucasus 7900-7500 BC 13.33%
Eastern Europe 9386-9231 BC 26.67%
Western Europe 11100-10800 BC 2.5%

Lemgrant
12-25-2018, 06:53 PM
with pen=0
Fit 6.67

Anatolia 8300-7900 BC 42.5
Caucasus 7900-7500 BC 8.33
Eastern Europe 9386-9231 BC 44.17
Levant 7300-6700 BC 0.83
Western Europe 11100-10800 BC 4.17

with pen=0.001
Fit 6.67

Anatolia 8300-7900 BC 44.17
Caucasus 7900-7500 BC 7.5
Eastern Europe 9386-9231 BC 45
Western Europe 11100-10800 BC 3.33

Kaspias
12-25-2018, 06:54 PM
Fit=3.4896

Anatolia 8300-7900 BC 35.83
Eastern Europe 9386-9231 BC 25.83
Caucasus 7900-7500 BC 19.17
Levant 7300-6700 BC 10.17
Siberia 5500-5000 BC 9

Bosniensis
12-25-2018, 07:01 PM
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Interesting you are more Eastern European than me, what is your ancestry?

nittionia
12-25-2018, 07:02 PM
I only have my dad's coordinates so far:

Anatolia: 50.83
Eastern Europe: 37.5
Caucasus: 6.67
Western Europe: 5

Ayetooey
12-25-2018, 07:38 PM
Zoran23_scaled,0.133173,0.132019,0.046386,0.034561 ,0.037238,0.017012,-0.0047,0.007154,0.0045,-0.003645,-0.004709,0.000599,0.000297,-0.004542,-0.000543,0.01432,0.017732,0.006841,0.004525,0.0028 76,-0.003993,-0.001731,0.006902,0.01205,-0.000239

Run me.

Ayetooey
12-25-2018, 07:41 PM
I only have my dad's coordinates so far:

Anatolia: 50.83
Eastern Europe: 37.5
Caucasus: 6.67
Western Europe: 5

ur dad is a wog

Bosniensis
12-25-2018, 07:41 PM
Zoran23_scaled,0.133173,0.132019,0.046386,0.034561 ,0.037238,0.017012,-0.0047,0.007154,0.0045,-0.003645,-0.004709,0.000599,0.000297,-0.004542,-0.000543,0.01432,0.017732,0.006841,0.004525,0.0028 76,-0.003993,-0.001731,0.006902,0.01205,-0.000239

Run me.

Penalty 0.001

Anatolia 8300-7900 BC 53.33%
Caucasus 7900-7500 BC 8.33%
Eastern Europe 9386-9231 BC 35.83%

others 1% not bothered to write, not using R.. don't have sheets.

Ayetooey
12-25-2018, 07:42 PM
Penalty 0.001

Anatolia 8300-7900 BC 53.33%
Caucasus 7900-7500 BC 8.33%
Eastern Europe 9386-9231 BC 35.83%

others 1% not bothered to write, not using R.. don't have sheets.
http://i61.tinypic.com/ke6cmx.jpg

Lemgrant
12-25-2018, 07:48 PM
Interesting you are more Eastern European than me, what is your ancestry?

I am from Ukraine and according to nMonte Runner I get the best fit with Slavic + Baltic + Austrian-German-Hungarian + Ingrian inputs. Is this accurate? I think yes.
I don't know how accurate are the percentages, but the components I think are correct.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4870/45518866975_616719b9ca_o.png

https://i.imgur.com/j2WBmYw.png

https://i.imgur.com/knK5wyu.png

Bosniensis
12-25-2018, 07:51 PM
I am from Ukraine and according to nMonte Runner I get the best fit with Slavic + Baltic + Austrian-German-Hungarian + Ingrian inputs. Is this accurate? I think yes.
I don't know how accurate are the percentages, but the components I think are correct.

[IMG]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4870/45518866975_616719b9ca_o.png[/MG]

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/j2WBmYw.png[/IG]

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/knK5wyu.png[/IG]


i don't know can you do the same for me? So I can compare

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
SinanZ_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.035826,0.014535, 0.028005,0.01255,0,0.005769,-0.002659,-0.002369,0.002923,-0.006744,0.005352,0.011973,-0.016286,-0.003315,-0.003651,-0.003041,0.00993,-0.008629,-0.007237,-0.008161,0.007765,-0.005904,0.003832

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
SinanZ,0.0111,0.0133,0.0095,0.0045,0.0091,0.0045,0 ,0.0025,-0.0013,-0.0013,0.0018,-0.0045,0.0036,0.0087,-0.012,-0.0025,-0.0028,-0.0024,0.0079,-0.0069,-0.0058,-0.0066,0.0063,-0.0049,0.0032

Lemgrant
12-25-2018, 07:56 PM
i don't know can you do the same for me? So I can compare

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
SinanZ_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.035826,0.014535, 0.028005,0.01255,0,0.005769,-0.002659,-0.002369,0.002923,-0.006744,0.005352,0.011973,-0.016286,-0.003315,-0.003651,-0.003041,0.00993,-0.008629,-0.007237,-0.008161,0.007765,-0.005904,0.003832

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
SinanZ,0.0111,0.0133,0.0095,0.0045,0.0091,0.0045,0 ,0.0025,-0.0013,-0.0013,0.0018,-0.0045,0.0036,0.0087,-0.012,-0.0025,-0.0028,-0.0024,0.0079,-0.0069,-0.0058,-0.0066,0.0063,-0.0049,0.0032

but you can do it yourself here: http://185.144.156.77:3000/
play with different reference groups

Ayetooey
12-25-2018, 07:57 PM
That's an impressive fit with 4pops. My closest 2pop with my north shifting ancestrydna data. Very close to my actual background, on 0.001.

https://i.imgur.com/objKrpU.jpg?1

Lemgrant
12-25-2018, 09:04 PM
I am from Ukraine and according to nMonte Runner I get the best fit with Slavic + Baltic + Austrian-German-Hungarian + Ingrian inputs. Is this accurate? I think yes.
I don't know how accurate are the percentages, but the components I think are correct.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4870/45518866975_616719b9ca_o.png

https://i.imgur.com/j2WBmYw.png

https://i.imgur.com/knK5wyu.png

and here is my Asian input detected
https://i.imgur.com/ZNefiPe.png
AncestryDNA says that I am 1% central Asian (with range 0%-6%)

Bosniensis
12-25-2018, 09:17 PM
This is great 2500 B.C. Mycenaean Greece (4 samples) VS 1500 B.C. Yamnaya (7 samples) I got 62.5% Mycenaean and 37% Yamnaya%

When I add Anatolia 1850 B.C. to those two I get: 0 at Anatolia 63% Mycenaean and 37 Yamnaya

When I add Okunevo (Siberian) 3rd millenia B.C again 0

So without doubt, whatever I try... Only Mycenean Greece and Yamnaya works. 62.% Mycenean, 37% Yamnaya

karakartal
12-26-2018, 01:31 PM
This is great 2500 B.C. Mycenaean Greece (4 samples) VS 1500 B.C. Yamnaya (7 samples) I got 62.5% Mycenaean and 37% Yamnaya%

When I add Anatolia 1850 B.C. to those two I get: 0 at Anatolia 63% Mycenaean and 37 Yamnaya

When I add Okunevo (Siberian) 3rd millenia B.C again 0

So without doubt, whatever I try... Only Mycenean Greece and Yamnaya works. 62.% Mycenean, 37% Yamnaya
3.4904

Anatolia 8300-7900 BC 40.83
Caucasus 7900-7500 BC 20.83
Eastern Europe 9386-9231 BC 19.17
Levant 7300-6700 BC 15.83
Siberia 5500-5000 BC 2.5
East Asia Modern Proxy 0.83

What do you think mate?

dosas
12-26-2018, 01:37 PM
Where are the population references? I can't find them on nmonte runner.

Bosniensis
12-26-2018, 01:51 PM
Where are the population references? I can't find them on nmonte runner.

I can’t either used that online nmonte

nittionia
09-11-2019, 08:19 PM
I only have my dad's coordinates so far:

Anatolia: 50.83
Eastern Europe: 37.5
Caucasus: 6.67
Western Europe: 5

My dad's are different now:

"Anatolia_8300-7900_BC": 50,
"Eastern_Europe_9386-9231_BC": 38.33,
"Caucasus_7900-7500_BC": 6.67,
"Western_Europe_11100-10800_BC": 4.17,

Pedro Ruben
09-11-2019, 09:53 PM
with pen=0
"fit": 4.6913,
"Anatolia_8300-7900_BC": 50,
"Eastern_Europe_9386-9231_BC": 23.33,
"Levant_7300-6700_BC": 10,
"Caucasus_7900-7500_BC": 5.83,
"Northwest_Africa_13000-12000_BC": 5,
"Western_Europe_11100-10800_BC": 4.17,
"West_Africa_modern_proxy": 1.67

with pen=0.001
"fit": 4.9038,
"Anatolia_8300-7900_BC": 51.67,
"Eastern_Europe_9386-9231_BC": 21.67,
"Levant_7300-6700_BC": 9.17,
"Caucasus_7900-7500_BC": 7.5,
"Northwest_Africa_13000-12000_BC": 5,
"Western_Europe_11100-10800_BC": 5

Coastal Elite
09-12-2019, 02:41 AM
"sample": "Custom: DacoCeltic_scaled",

"fit": 4.6994,
"Anatolia_8300-7900_BC": 55.83,
"Eastern_Europe_9386-9231_BC": 30,
"Caucasus_7900-7500_BC": 11.67,
"Western_Europe_11100-10800_BC": 1.67,
"Levant_7300-6700_BC": 0.83,
"America_11000-10600_BC": 0,
"Australia_modern_proxy": 0,
"East_Africa_2500_BC": 0,
"East_Asia_modern_proxy": 0,
"Northwest_Africa_13000-12000_BC": 0,
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC": 0,
"South_Asia_modern_proxy": 0,
"Southeast_Africa_8000-3000_BC": 0,
"West_Africa_modern_proxy": 0,


"closestDistances": [
"Anatolia_8300-7900_BC:Boncuklu_N_Bon002: 14.96878",
"Levant_7300-6700_BC:Levant_N_I1699: 24.12671",
"Levant_7300-6700_BC:Levant_N_I0867: 24.17160",
"Eastern_Europe_9386-9231_BC:EHG_Sidelkino: 24.87667",
"Caucasus_7900-7500_BC:CHG_KK1: 26.05830",
"Western_Europe_11100-10800_BC:WHG_Rochedane: 36.51623",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-22: 45.59092",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-11: 45.61829",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-24: 45.62580",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-13: 45.72329",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-17: 45.72827",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-14: 45.80153",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-27: 45.90846",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-10: 45.93389",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-16: 45.94773",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-21: 45.99854",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-19: 46.03038",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-20: 46.05477",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-01: 46.05732",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-02: 46.06006",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-09: 46.10652",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-08: 46.24401",
"South_Asia_modern_proxy:Onge_ONG-12: 46.27575",
"Northwest_Africa_13000-12000_BC:Iberomaurusian_TAF012: 47.14722",
"Northwest_Africa_13000-12000_BC:Iberomaurusian_TAF011: 48.26465",
"Northwest_Africa_13000-12000_BC:Iberomaurusian_TAF014: 48.33622",
"Northwest_Africa_13000-12000_BC:Iberomaurusian_TAF013: 48.39405",
"Northwest_Africa_13000-12000_BC:Iberomaurusian_TAF010: 48.54359",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA252: 55.62026",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA250: 56.47978",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Lokomotiv_N_DA359: 56.75068",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA253: 57.03775",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Lokomotiv_N_DA340: 57.04479",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA362: 57.86187",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Lokomotiv_N_DA341: 57.90042",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Lokomotiv_N_DA357: 57.95136",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA248: 57.96521",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA247: 58.45376",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA251: 58.53137",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA246: 58.65338",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA245: 58.71088",
"Siberia_5500-5000_BC:Shamanka_N_DA249: 59.23790",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00777: 59.55216",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_S_Han-1: 60.28611",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00783: 60.44536",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00780: 60.46935",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00782: 60.57512",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00779: 60.99715",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00778: 61.03569",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_B_Han-3: 61.16107",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00775: 61.36413",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00776: 61.65828",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00781: 61.80977",
"America_11000-10600_BC:Clovis_Anzick: 62.54037",
"East_Asia_modern_proxy:Han_HGDP00774: 62.82820",
"Australia_modern_proxy:Australian_IHW9193: 63.01519",
"Australia_modern_proxy:Australian_IHW9195: 63.05781",
"Australia_modern_proxy:Australian_IHW9118: 63.80249",
"Australia_modern_proxy:Australian_B_Australian-4: 63.99767",
"Australia_modern_proxy:Australian_B_Australian-3: 64.27367",
"East_Africa_2500_BC:Ethiopia_4500BP_mota.SG: 67.25170",
"Southeast_Africa_8000-3000_BC:Malawi_Hora_Holocene_I2966: 72.91317",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18489: 77.04879",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18498: 77.05364",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18486: 77.06110",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18487: 77.11551",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_HGDP00944: 77.18012",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18507: 77.21051",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18488: 77.44707",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18499: 77.47430",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18501: 77.50118",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18504: 77.93841",
"West_Africa_modern_proxy:Yoruba_NA18505: 78.01851"