Modern W.Balkan & Greeks vs Thraco-Illyrians & Ancient Greeks (2000 B.C)

[Bosniensis]

As it can be seen

I, 30 Modern Greeks have tested against 10 Balkan people (2000 B.C:), 5 Minoan 1850 B.C. AVG, 4 Mycenaean 1400 B.C. AVG

It can clearly be seen that Greeks have way more Minoan and Mycenaean while I have more Ancient Balkan DNA in comparison.

Fit is 2 - 3 on Avg which is considered Precise for Ancient Matches, only modern samples give better fit like 1.5 etc..

Why is this result interesting?

Because it removes Mycenaean and Minoan sample from Balkan people which is usually false positive on many "Ancient" Tests.

Who are those Balkan 2000 B.C. people? We don't know... Thracians and Illyrians Probably.

Sintashta is Steppe 1850 B.C. I think

here are results:

https://i.imgur.com/G0FQU8k.png

[Ayetooey]

Click on the map link at the bottom. Ancient Balkan reference pop is starcevo in Serbia, nothing to do with Greeks.

[Bosniensis]

Click on the map link at the bottom. Ancient Balkan reference pop is starcevo in Serbia, nothing to do with Greeks.

Yes but still they got like 30% of those ancient people DNK among them..

[Ayetooey]

Yes but still they got like 30% of those ancient people DNK among them..

I guess, makes sense. That's a Greek average for the whole nation, so it includes assimilated Arvanites and Vlachs who would have balkan dna from that far North.

[Bosniensis]

I guess, makes sense. That's a Greek average for the whole nation, so it includes assimilated Arvanites and Vlachs who would have balkan dna from that far North.

Greeks have 2.21 Fit which is precise enough, how about 3.40 is that too much? am I missing some populations?

[Ayetooey]

Greeks have 2.21 Fit which is precise enough, how about 3.40 is that too much? am I missing some populations?

2.21 fit is good, 3.40 is a bit high, might want to replace Mycenean with something else for the Balkan run. You'd need to run this with more than 4 populations to get the most precise result.

[Bosniensis]

2.21 fit is good, 3.40 is a bit high, might want to replace Mycenean with something else for the Balkan run. You'd need to run this with more than 4 populations to get the most precise result.

hmmm

Which pop should decrease my Fit maybe some Italian or Germanic? Or something Sintashta like. xD

[nightrider+]

I guess, makes sense. That's a Greek average for the whole nation, so it includes assimilated Arvanites and Vlachs who would have balkan dna from that far North.Dude this makes no sense. People should really stop parroting whatever bs they read on here.

[Ayetooey]

Dude this makes no sense. People should really stop parroting whatever bs they read on here.

lol

[Ayetooey]

hmmm

Which pop should decrease my Fit maybe some Italian or Germanic? Or something Sintashta like. xD

Try this, alongside your data also. https://i.imgur.com/A4SnubE.jpg

[Epirus DNA]

As it can be seen

I, 30 Modern Greeks have tested against 10 Balkan people (2000 B.C:), 5 Minoan 1850 B.C. AVG, 4 Mycenaean 1400 B.C. AVG

It can clearly be seen that Greeks have way more Minoan and Mycenaean while I have more Ancient Balkan DNA in comparison.

Fit is 2 - 3 on Avg which is considered Precise for Ancient Matches, only modern samples give better fit like 1.5 etc..

Why is this result interesting?

Because it removes Mycenaean and Minoan sample from Balkan people which is usually false positive on many "Ancient" Tests.

Who are those Balkan 2000 B.C. people? We don't know... Thracians and Illyrians Probably.

Sintashta is Steppe 1850 B.C. I think

here are results:

https://i.imgur.com/G0FQU8k.png

Explain the Proto-Greek Hypothesis?
Science believes Proto-Greek came from Yamnaya. See photo below from Eupedia

Do you think Proto-Greek came from Anatolia or the Danube? How does this relate to Proto-Illyrian and the Hg J ??

https://i.imgur.com/4NnQAOK.jpg