Classify Pashtun politician from KPK Pakistan

[lameduck]

http://na.gov.pk/uploads/images/35.jpg
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[Joso]

Iranid+armenoid

[lameduck]

Iranid+armenoid

Where can he pass? Outside of Pashtun region of Pakistan/Afghanistan

[Kamal900]

A prime example of an Armenoid and Iranid. Looks Azeri.

[lameduck]

A prime example of an Armenoid and Iranid. Looks Azeri.

Yeah azeri/caspian type crossed my mind as well ,when I saw him.

[Joso]

A prime example of an Armenoid and Iranid. Looks Azeri.

This

[tipirneni]

Gilani tribe from Iran during Sultanate ? Don't reference nowadays Gilanis with more local admixure

[Zroota]

Anatolid + Asiatic Alpine

Looks like an Assyrian from the Nineveh Plains, and especially Kurdish. He reminds of this Assyrian photographer:
https://yt3.ggpht.com/a-/AN66SAzhrt78shyB_C_0maRAu7LqQ6IffZMVDoFeZQ=s900-mo-c-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no

Although he can easily pass as an Iranian, but he is clearly not Iranid as phenotypes go:
http://s008.radikal.ru/i305/1011/79/475285a3c145.jpg

[NPKTO]

Irano Afghan + Armenoid. Zero Indid.

[anonpunjabi]

I don't see any Iranid, he only looks pseudo Iranid because of his nose, he looks brachycephalic whereas Iranid/IranoAfghan types are meso-dolichocephalic.

I'd classify him as East Alpinid (AA)+Armenid.

Here is why, his face shape looks like a mix of Armenid and AA, the upper third of his face is standard Armenid, the eyes and nasal root are Armenid traits. The eyebrows especially by how they meet in a tuft in the middle demonstrating strong hair growth is unmistakably Armenid. Starting with the nasal tip so the downwards is all AA, his lips are thin like in AA, chin/jaw also looks standard AA.

[anonpunjabi]

Where can he pass? Outside of Pashtun region of Pakistan/Afghanistan

Lots of places, he can't pass outside of KPK in Pakistan, there is some overlap but Punjabi's look noticeably Indid whereas he doesn't even have one bit rather looks very West Asian. He passes easily in Iran, Iraq, Kurdistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Lebanon and Syria.

[anonpunjabi]

Irano Afghan + Armenoid. Zero Indid.

I agree with Armenoid and zero Indid, but where is the IranoAfghan? If he had IranoAfghan he would've looked at least pseudo NorthIndid but he show's no affinity to it at all.

[NPKTO]

I agree with Armenoid and zero Indid, but where is the IranoAfghan? If he had IranoAfghan he would've looked at least pseudo NorthIndid but he show's no affinity to it at all.
Something about his skull shape gives off that Irano Afghan vibes. Irano Afghan is an Iranid subtype.

[anonpunjabi]

Something about his skull shape gives off that Irano Afghan vibes. Irano Afghan is an Iranid subtype.

Fair enough, NorthIndid and IranoAfghan used to be the same type, then they were distinguished from each other. They are on a cline though, variants of each other, lots of similarity so when I see I think of the other but I can usually distinguish which. IranoAfghan is a type in between Iranian Mediterranid and Nordic, anthropologists couldn't agree which type it was more akin too. IranoAfghan isn't a type anymore, it is called simply Iranid, ProtoNordid shifted ones are classified as IranianNordoid/IranoNordoid, although there are variants like NorthIndid and IranoAfghan that generally lack the ProtoNordid strains.

[NPKTO]

Fair enough, NorthIndid and IranoAfghan used to be the same type, then they were distinguished from each other. They are on a cline though, variants of each other, lots of similarity so when I see I think of the other but I can usually distinguish which. IranoAfghan is a type in between Iranian Mediterranid and Nordic, anthropologists couldn't agree which type it was more akin too. IranoAfghan isn't a type anymore, it is called simply Iranid, ProtoNordid shifted ones are classified as IranianNordoid/IranoNordoid, although there are variants like NorthIndid and IranoAfghan that generally lack the ProtoNordid strains.
For example in Bollywood, Ranveer Singh would be more like your typical run of the mill Nord Indid, while Ranbir Kapoor and Shammi Kapoor would be Nord Indids leaning more towards that Irano Afghan phenotype.

[Viridian1]

In Poland he would be considered as a Gypsy.

[anonpunjabi]

In Poland he would be considered as a Gypsy.

Yeah, but isn't the Assyroid type which is a mixture of Orientalid and Armenid found in Poland, Jews I presume. http://humanphenotypes.net/Assyroid.html Read the description I don't know how common it is maybe you can clarify.

[anonpunjabi]

For example in Bollywood, Ranveer Singh would be more like your typical run of the mill Nord Indid, while Ranbir Kapoor and Shammi Kapoor would be Nord Indids leaning more towards that Irano Afghan phenotype.

Nope they lean more IndoNordic, makes sense geographically because they are from Peshawar originally. Ranveer Singh is part Punjabi the other part Sindhi, I've seen a picture of his Punjabi ancestor he looks IranoAfghan.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Anatolid + Asiatic Alpine

Looks like an Assyrian from the Nineveh Plains, and especially Kurdish. He reminds of this Assyrian photographer:
https://yt3.ggpht.com/a-/AN66SAzhrt78shyB_C_0maRAu7LqQ6IffZMVDoFeZQ=s900-mo-c-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no

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That guy looks much more like hadouken so yea Anatolid for the Assyrian guy , doesent look like guy in OP . However the Pashtun guy could easily be Turk/Armenian/Azeri he’s armenoid + asiatic Alpine indeed

[Mingle]

Nope they lean more IndoNordic, makes sense geographically because they are from Peshawar originally. Ranveer Singh is part Punjabi the other part Sindhi, I've seen a picture of his Punjabi ancestor he looks IranoAfghan.They're not from Peshawar originally. They're Punjabi Khatris with their family being recent (20th century) migrants from Faisalabad (West Punjab) to Peshawar. Khatris are genetically the most northwest-shifted Indo-Aryan people (after western Dards) so it makes sense they'd lean that way.

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[anonpunjabi]

They're not from Peshawar originally. They're Punjabi Khatris with their family being recent (20th century) migrants from Faisalabad (West Punjab) to Peshawar. Khatris are genetically the most northwest-shifted Indo-Aryan people (after western Dards) so it makes sense they'd lean that way.

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Yeah thanks for clarifying, I thought geography was the reason for their phenotype, IndoNordic is a common type in Pashtuns, it is probably due to similar origin. Jatt's are more IranoAfghan-NorthIndid in phenotype than IndoNordic. I know many Jatts who are IranoAfghan and NorthIndid, one who is fully IndoNordic and a couple with influence.

[Viridian1]

Yeah, but isn't the Assyroid type which is a mixture of Orientalid and Armenid found in Poland, Jews I presume. http://humanphenotypes.net/Assyroid.html Read the description I don't know how common it is maybe you can clarify.
Thats not the kind of gypsies I am used to see in Poland. They look near eastern while Gypsies here look more armeno indid.
https://d-pt.ppstatic.pl/k/r/1/e9/8e/549a992c39d56_p.jpg?1442337825

[turbosat]

They're not from Peshawar originally. They're Punjabi Khatris with their family being recent (20th century) migrants from Faisalabad (West Punjab) to Peshawar. Khatris are genetically the most northwest-shifted Indo-Aryan people (after western Dards) so it makes sense they'd lean that way.

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Kapoor actors ancestral place of origin is also not really Faisalabad since that was a new city created by British after 1880. They would have moved to Faisalabad town from somewhere else like most of the population in the town as it started growing.

"According to the University of Faisalabad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Faisalabad), the city of Faisalabad traces its origins to the 18th century when the land was inhabited by a number of forest-dwelling tribes. It is believed these early settlements belonged to the ancient districts of Jhang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhang) and Sandalbar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandalbar)....In 1880, Poham Young CIE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Indian_Empire), a British colonial officer, proposed construction of a new strategic town within the area.[24] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisalabad#cite_note-DCF-24) His proposal was supported by Sir James Broadwood Lyall and the city of Lyall [pur] was developed."

[lameduck]

Kapoor actors ancestral place of origin is also not really Faisalabad since that was a new city created by British after 1880. They would have moved to Faisalabad town from somewhere else like most of the population in the town as it started growing.

"According to the University of Faisalabad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Faisalabad), the city of Faisalabad traces its origins to the 18th century when the land was inhabited by a number of forest-dwelling tribes. It is believed these early settlements belonged to the ancient districts of Jhang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhang) and Sandalbar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandalbar)....In 1880, Poham Young CIE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Indian_Empire), a British colonial officer, proposed construction of a new strategic town within the area.[24] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisalabad#cite_note-DCF-24) His proposal was supported by Sir James Broadwood Lyall and the city of Lyall [pur] was developed."

Kapoor family is from sumandri , a village near faisalabad.

[turbosat]

Kapoor family is from sumandri , a village near faisalabad.

yes I read that after my post. Its not clear how old Sumandri is though? It might originally have been a small village that has now grown into a town?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samundri - Samundri was on a major trade route during the reign of Sher Shah Suri (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sher_Shah_Suri). The present site of Samundri city was founded in 1887 as Chak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chak_(village)) No. 533 G.B. Later it was renamed as Seh Mundri because of three Hindu mandirs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_temple) in the area.

My guess is their ancestors were probably shopkeepers or some kind of traders etc. They might have come to Samundri from somewhere else too to operate a shop or do some trade, or perhaps they were there all along in the old village running a little village shop?

[Gangrel]

Anatolid + Asiatic Alpine

Looks like an Assyrian from the Nineveh Plains, and especially Kurdish. He reminds of this Assyrian photographer:
https://yt3.ggpht.com/a-/AN66SAzhrt78shyB_C_0maRAu7LqQ6IffZMVDoFeZQ=s900-mo-c-c0xffffffff-rj-k-no

Although he can easily pass as an Iranian, but he is clearly not Iranid as phenotypes go:
http://s008.radikal.ru/i305/1011/79/475285a3c145.jpg

He doesn't look Kurdish. Looks Iranian. This guy will struggle to pass in Anatolia