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Petros Agapetos
12-28-2018, 02:39 PM
You think you know about Islam, but did you know:

1. Islam teaches that Muslims must wage war to impose Islamic law on non-Muslim states
2. Today's jihad terrorists have the same motives and goals as the Muslims who fought the Crusaders.
3. The Crusades were defensive conflicts; after over 400 years of Muslim aggression against Christendom
4. Muslim persecution of Christian has continued for 13 centuries - and still goes on.

Petros Agapetos
12-28-2018, 02:44 PM
Bet your teacher never told you:

1. Muhammad did not teach "peace and tolerance" - he led armies and ordered the assassination of his enemies.
2. The Qur'an commands Muslims to make war on Jews and Christians
3. The much -ballyhooed "Golden Age" of Islamic culture was largely inspired by non-Muslims
4. What is known today as the "Islamic world" was created by a series of brutal conquests of non-Muslim lands.
5. The Crusades were not acts of unprovoked aggression by
Europe against the Islamic world, but a delayed response to centuries of Muslim aggression

Phenix
12-28-2018, 04:18 PM
The name of the religion itself is explicitly clear: submission.

Teutone
12-28-2018, 05:54 PM
Sharmutah

You are a communist kuffar, look at the deaths connect to your sick ideology.

Phenix
12-28-2018, 06:29 PM
Sharmutah

You are a communist kuffar, look at the deaths connect to your sick ideology.

Mashallah you have integrated so fast.

Crimson Winds
12-28-2018, 06:31 PM
Defensive War = Christan Germanic knights who appropriated Roman culture fights half-pagan Central Asian Turks for historical Jewish-Palestinian land.

Petros Agapetos
12-28-2018, 08:02 PM
Islam was spread by the sword. What is known today as the "Islamic World" was created by a series of brutal conquests of non-Muslim lands. These were wars of religious imperialism, not self-defense. The early spread of Islam and that of Christianity sharply contrast in that Islam spread by force and Christianity didn't.

Petros Agapetos
12-28-2018, 08:05 PM
The Lure of Islamic Paradise

The Qur'an describes Paradise in terms that make it clear that it is a place merely to indulge one's phyiscal appetites.
September 11 hijacker Muhammad Atta packed a "paradise wedding suit" into his luggage on that faceful day.
Paradise is guaranteed only to those who "slay and are slain" for Allah.

Petros Agapetos
12-29-2018, 12:45 AM
The crusades were not acts of unprovoked aggression by Europe against the Islamic world, but a delayed response to Muslim aggression which grew fiercer than ever in the eleventh century. These were wars for the recapture of Christian lands and the defense of Christians, not religious imperialism.

The crusades were not called in order to convert Muslims or anyone else to Christianity by force. The Crusades were not early manifestations of European colonialism in the Middle East.

The Crusader massacre of Jews and Muslims in Jerusalem in 1099 was a terrible atrocity, but it was nothing unusual according to the rules of warfare of the time. The Crusades were not called in order to target Jews as well as Muslims.

After the crusades, the Muslims resumed their attempts to conquer Europe by jihad. Christians were as responsible as Muslims for the Islamic conquest of Eastern Europe: They made short-sighted and ultimately disastrous alliances with jihad forces. Western leaders who think non-Muslims can "win hearts and minds" among Islamic jihadists are similarly naive and shortsighted.

Petros Agapetos
12-29-2018, 01:45 AM
We will not be able to resist jihad without recovering pride in Western civilization.
The problem the world faces today is not generalized "religious fundamentalism" - it is Islamic Jihad!
Most modern-day presentations of the crusades are politically motivated ahisotircal nonsense.
You cannot defeat an enemy you don't understand. Call things by their right names.

Petros Agapetos
12-29-2018, 01:48 AM
Islam has not reformed or changed its traditional doctrines of jihad warfare.
Modern-day jihad groups are working to restore the caliphate as a means to further their war with the West.
These groups despise democracy as a Western import at odds with the caliphate and sharia (a fascist dictatorship)

Petros Agapetos
12-29-2018, 01:51 AM
Europe could be Islamic by the end of the twenty-first century.
In order to defeat the international jihadist threat ,the US must reconfigure its alliances on the basis of where countries stand on Islamic jihad.
Converts from Islam to Christianity must live in fear even in the United States, due to the death penalty for apostasy in Islam.

Luca
12-29-2018, 05:22 AM
Thread is made by an armenian. What a suprise.
Just what do you seek to accomplish?
this is complete bullshit. You just troll the muslims here and they troll you back. where is the point?

Petros Agapetos
12-29-2018, 05:33 AM
Thread is made by an armenian. What a suprise.
Just what do you seek to accomplish?
this is complete bullshit. You just troll the muslims here and they troll you back. where is the point?

This thread is to educate Apricity users about Islam. I wanted to share some information about Islam.
I read the books of Robert Spencer; the most prominent counter-jihad leader; and director of JihadWatch.org. I am pretty well versed.

Petros Agapetos
12-29-2018, 05:37 AM
"May Allah rip out his spine from his back and slit his brains in two and then put them both back and then do it over and over again. Amen" - Praise for the author of RevivingIslam.com

Petros Agapetos
12-29-2018, 06:12 AM
Muslims will never assimilate because their religion does not accept that.

Islam enforces apartheid and is motivated by hatred of the kafir ‘for the sake of Allah’.

Islam’s canonical hatred of the kafir is no basis for a tolerant harmonious society.

Islam’s hatred is a recipe for constant disharmony.

Petros Agapetos
12-29-2018, 06:09 PM
The Crusade we must fight today

! Against the Islamization of Europe

Will tourissts in Paris in the year 2105 take a moment to visit the mosque of Notre Dame and the "Eiffel Minaret" . Through mass immigration and official dhimmitude from European leaders. Muslims are accomplishing today what they failed to do at the time of the Crusaders: conquer Europe. How quickly is Europe being Islamized? So quickly even historian Bernard Lewis, who has continued throughout his honour-filled career to be disingenuous about Islamic radicalism and terrorism.

Next, ! We must reconfigure our NATO alliances to fight the global jihad

Kaspias
12-29-2018, 06:54 PM
Thread is made by an armenian. What a suprise.
Just what do you seek to accomplish?
this is complete bullshit. You just troll the muslims here and they troll you back. where is the point?

ssshttt dont bother him he is busy with spreading his propagandas.


Secular Liberal, Progressive Leftist, orthodox spreading dark age catholic church propagandas what a paradox :)

Thorns
12-29-2018, 07:17 PM
Muslims can assimilate in western countries, many do. But the caveat here is that they MUST be kept to a certain number - less than 2% of the total population.

Individual Muslims may be nice people and all of that kumbaya crap, but Islam itself is very similar to cancer in many ways in the way it behaves.

The worst thing you can do is allow it to metastasize, unless of course you enjoy that sort of thing.

Petros Agapetos
12-30-2018, 12:44 PM
Muhammad thought his followers that there was nothing better or holier than jihad warfare.

Muhammad told his men to offer non-Muslims only three choices: conversion, subjugation, or death.

These teachings are not marginal doctrines or historical relics - they are still taught in mainstream Islam.

Petros Agapetos
12-30-2018, 12:52 PM
Guess what?

In Islam, women are inferior to men and must be ruled by them.
"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other (Qur'an 4:34)

The Qur'an declares that a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man: Get two witnesses, out of your own men and if there are not wo men , then a man and two women, such as ye choose for wtinesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her (2:282)

The Quran allows men to marry up to four women, and have sex with the capitves of the right had (slave girls).
Marry women of your choice, two, three of four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with them, then marry only one, or a captive that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable , to prevent you from doing injustice. Quran (4:3)

The Quran tells husbands to beat disobedient women (4:34)

The Quran rulles that a sons inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: (4:11)

Petros Agapetos
12-30-2018, 09:14 PM
Islam prescribes the death penalty for apostasy. You can convert to Islam, but not out of Islam.
Islam prescribes the death penalty for blasphemy, as well as for criticizing Islam, Muhammad, Allah, or Quran.

Petros Agapetos
12-30-2018, 09:19 PM
Guess what...

The UN has condemned Islamophobia while turning a blind eye to atrocities committed by jihadists.
The charge of Islamophobia is used to intimidate and silence critics of violent jihad in Islam.
Some groups are even trying to brand those who tell the truth about Islam and jihad as purveyors of hate speech.

Joso
12-30-2018, 09:25 PM
Lot of mulism are nice people

Petros Agapetos
12-30-2018, 09:26 PM
Lot of mulism are nice people

There is a distinction between Muslims as people and Islam as a religion.
All Islam is radical, but not all Muslims are radical Muslims.

Petros Agapetos
12-31-2018, 02:31 AM
Quran (9:5) = And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful

Quran (9:29) = Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled

Petros Agapetos
12-31-2018, 02:37 AM
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Khamzat
12-31-2018, 02:38 AM
You off your meds again?

Petros Agapetos
01-01-2019, 06:49 PM
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya (poll tax) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Petros Agapetos
01-02-2019, 08:03 PM
Islam is the only modern religion that kills people for leaving it.
There must be a disclaimer on every Qur'an saying "This religion can kill you if you convert to it and leave it".

Petros Agapetos
01-02-2019, 08:08 PM
"To win the war on terror we must understand our enemy. The courageous and indefatigable Robert Spencer destroys myths and tells truths about jihadists that no one else will tell. " - Michelle Malkin, author of Defense of Internment

"In this book Robert Spencer tells the truth that few in the US or Europe wish to face... Here is a devastating ripostle to that revisionism - and a clarion call for the defencse of the West before it is too late."
Ibn Warraq (author of Why I am Not a Muslims and editor of Leaving Islam)

Robert Spencer , an expert on historical jihad, responds with a "politically incorrect" but academically sound and challenging work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpWH6Z5EZ2k

Petros Agapetos
01-08-2019, 01:18 PM
The year 1 on the Islamic calendar commemorates Muhammad's becoming a military leader of the Muslims.

I am against sharia:
1. Restricting the freedom of conscience (such as by killing people for leaving Islam)
2. Restricting the freedom of speech (such as criminalizing blasphemy, persecuting atheists and free thinkers)
3. Restricting the equality of rights of women (such as forcing women to wear bee-keeper suits, female genital mutilation, testimony counts as half of a man's)
4. Restricting the equality of rights of homosexuals (such as by killing them for having gay sex)
5. Restricting the equality of rights of non-Muslims (such as Dhimma, a subjugated second class citizen's status for Jews and Christians)
etc.

These are what I am against, and no I would not compromise any of the above listed reasons for why I am against Islam, and its religious law, the sharia.

Petros Agapetos
01-10-2019, 03:23 AM
According to Islamic laws (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Non-Muslims), non-Muslims in Islamic lands should be subdued and be treated as dhimmis (second class citizens). They should be coerced and intimidated to convert to Islam, through special humiliating taxes like Jizyah imposed on them. Following Prophet Muhammad's example, this has been taking place throughout Islam's history. While Muslims demand for concessions in non-Muslim countries, non-Muslims are systematically persecuted, terrorized and ethnically cleansed from Islamic lands.

In 2008 alone, there were 2,204 separate documented incidents of Islamically motivated violence which led to death. In total there were 10,779 deaths and another 18,213 critically injured. That is more people killed each and every year in the name of Islam, than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. More than 29 people are killed in religiously motivated attacks every single day at the hands of Muslims. If you spend just one short hour reading through some of the news articles compiled on this page, there would have been another one to two deaths attributed to Islam and countless other incidents involving beatings, rapes, abductions, forced conversions, desecration of non-Muslim buildings, etc.

Petros Agapetos
01-10-2019, 03:24 AM
Islam (http://https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Ex-Muslims) is the only major world religion that does not allow its followers the freedom to change faith. According to Shari'ah laws (extracted from the Qur'an and Sunnah), apostates of Islam must be sentenced to death. This has led to former Muslims often being persecuted, abused and killed. This treatment of apostates is not simply down to the issue of state-enforced religion as some may suggest. As you will find out on this page, the violence or threats of violence against apostates in the Muslim world usually derives not from government authorities but from family members and individuals from the Islamic communities themselves, who operate very often with impunity from the government. This point is further emphasised by the persecution and murder of former Muslims which has now become evident in many non-Muslim societies across the globe.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Ex-Muslims

Petros Agapetos
01-10-2019, 03:28 AM
Homosexuality is considered to be one of the worst sins in Islam and one of the greatest crimes punishable under Islamic law.[1] (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Homosexuals) The Prophet Muhammad not only condemned homosexuality[2] but even the "appearance" of homosexuality (effeminate men and masculine women).[3] With the rise of the Islamic population amongst historically non-Muslim societies, also comes the rise in persecution. For example, while Muslims comprise just 2% of the total British population, they commit 25% of all anti-Homosexual crimes.[4] However, this ongoing and increasing persecution of homosexuals by Muslims around the world, rarely makes the mainstream news. Thanks to the Internet, those of us who search can find many news items that would otherwise be lost.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Homosexuals

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 06:27 AM
Qur'an 2:22

"[He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him]."

This verse of the Qur'an says the Earth is flat. (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Flat_Earth_and_the_Quran)

Qur'an 20:53
"He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others."

This verse says the Earth is made like a carpet (flat).

Qur'an 83:86

"Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: “O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.”"

Zul-qarnain is Alexander the Great. The verse above says Alexander the Great discovered where the Sun sets, it sets in a spring of murky water.

Kivan
01-11-2019, 06:43 AM
Number of people who give a fuck:

http://thumbs.gfycat.com/PitifulUnfinishedGar-small.gif

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 08:14 AM
The rulings for the four four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence and the Ja'fari school in Shia Islam can be summarised as follows:

Hanafi - recommends three days of imprisonment before execution to allow repentance, although the delay before killing the Muslim apostate is not mandatory. Apostates who are men must be killed, states the Hanafi Sunni fiqh, while women must be held in solitary confinement and beaten every three days till they recant and return to Islam.

Maliki - allows three days for recantation, after which the apostate must be killed. The same applies to both men and women apostates according to the traditional view of Sunni Maliki fiqh.

Shafi'i - waiting period of three days is required to allow the Muslim apostate to repent and return to Islam. After the wait, execution is the traditional recommended punishment for both men and women apostates.

Hanbali - three day waiting period should be granted. Apostate is invited three times to repent. Execution is the traditionally recommended punishment for both genders of Muslim apostates.

And in Shia Islam:

Ja'fari - waiting period not necessary, but may be granted according to this Shia fiqh, but only if the apostate was born a disbeliever (Murtad al-Milli). A male apostate must be executed, states the Ja'fari fiqh, while a female apostate must be held in solitary confinement and beaten on the hours of salah with her food tightly rationed till she repents and returns to Islam.

Source: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 08:23 AM
Modern Muslims

A Pew poll released on April 30, 2013 asked Muslims in 39 countries between 2008 and 2012 questions about religion, politics and society based on 38,000 face-to-face interviews. In one question, asked in 37 of these countries with a combined Muslim population of just over 1 billion people, the survey asked participants whether they favored or opposed the death penalty for leaving Islam. Using the complete dataset for this question on page 219 of the full report, and weighing the responses by Muslim population indicates that overall, 40% of Muslims in these countries favour the death penalty for apostasy from Islam.

The percentage was below 10% in Central Asia, Turkey and Balkan countries included in the survey. It was above 50% in Afghanistan (79%), Egypt (88%), Jordan (83%), Malaysia (58%), Pakistan (75%), Palestinian Territories (62%), and Djbouti (62%). It is possible that support for the penalty has fallen in the years since the survey was conducted due to worldwide distaste for the actions of ISIS and attempts to distance Islam from the actions of that group, and in Egypt following the negative experience of Muslim Brotherhood government.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 08:53 AM
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:260

As you can see this is a "Sahih" [sound] narration so it is normative for Islamic law.

"... as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 09:01 AM
Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle (Muhammad) said,
"The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

Sahih Bukhari 9:83:17

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 09:04 AM
It is clear quite clear that under Islamic Law an apostate must be put to death. (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy)

There is no dispute on this ruling among classical Muslim or modern scholars... Sura II.217 is interpreted by no less an authority than al-Shafi'i(died 820 C.E.), the founder of one of the four orthodox schools of law of Sunni Islam to mean that the death penalty should be prescribed for apostates. Sura II.217 reads: "... But whoever of you recants and dies an unbeliever , his works shall come to nothing in this world and the next, and they are the companions of the fire for ever." Al-Thalabi and al -Khazan concur. Al-Razi in his commentary on II:217 says the apostate should be killed .

Similarly, IV. 89: "They would have you disbelieve as they themselves have disbelieved, so that you may be all like alike. Do not befriend them until they have fled their homes for the cause of God. If they desert you seize them and put them to death wherever you find them. Look for neither friends nor helpers among them..."

Baydawi (died c. 1315-16), in his celebrated commentary on the Koran, interprets this passage to mean: "Whosover turns back from his belief ( irtada ), openly or secretly, take him and kill him wheresoever ye find him, like any other infidel. Separate yourself from him altogether .Do not accept intercession in his regard". Ibn Kathir in his commentary on this passage quoting Al Suddi (died 745) says that since the unbelievers had manifested their unbelief they should be killed.

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 09:08 AM
1. Should hate mongering imams be immediately rounded up and deported?

2. Should we monitor mosques, and shut down mosques that teach treason, sedition, and jihad etc.?

3. Should we implement chain-deportations?: When a Muslim commits a terrorist act, the whole family is thrown out of the country. [This should serve as a great deterrant.]

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 09:32 AM
It is clear quite clear that under Islamic Law an apostate must be put to death. According to Ibn Abbas the Prophet said, "Kill him who changes his religion," or "behead him."

According to a hadith, the Prophet ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron , and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterised, till they die."

Here we find many traditions demanding the death penalty for apostasy:

Source: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Apostasy_and_Human_Rights

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 09:41 AM
Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of the United Nations [UDHR,1948] states:

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance".

The clause guaranteeing the freedom to change one's religion was added at the request of the delegate from Lebanon, Charles Malik, who was a Christian. Lebanon had accepted many people fleeing persecution for their beliefs, in particular for having changed their religion. Lebanon especially objected to the Islamic law concerning apostasy.

Islam restricts the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience.

Islam prescribes the death penalty for apostasy and blasphemy.
Charges of apostasy, unbelief , blasphemy and heresy, whether upheld or not, clearly go against several articles in UDHR of 1948,
and the legally binding International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights [ICCPR] of 1966 to which 147 states are signatories.

Muslim countries follow the Islamic version of the UDHR, called "The Cairo Declaration of Humann Rights in Islam (http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam)" which restricts the freedom of conscience.

Petros Agapetos
01-11-2019, 10:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guXBTgAxhIw

Brigitte Gabriel sums up 1400 years of Islamic history and makes it as exciting as can be.

One can see a lot of similarities between Judaism and Islam because Muhammad borrowed from Jewish texts in order to try to make his religion more pallatable to the Jews. Muhammad wanted the Jews to accept him as their prophet, even though Muhammad was not Jewish. The prophet of the Jews has to be a Jew. Naturally, the Jews refused to accept him as their prophet, and neither did the Christians. That is why Islam hates Christianity and Judaism.

Muhammad's spiritual movement became a political movement cloaked in religion when Muhammad became the military political leader of the Muslim community, in the year 1 of the Islamic calendar. Islam is inherently political.

"911" is not a number Osama Bin Laden picked out of a hat. It is the date of the battle of Vienna, where the Europeans (Austrian and Polish) armies stopped the advance of the conquering Ottoman Empire.

ISIS resurrected the caliphate which was toppled in 1924 by the Kemalist secular Turkish government. Or at least that's who they claim to be, the new caliphate.

Petros Agapetos
01-12-2019, 12:03 AM
Islam has doctrines, a legal system (sharia), and developed theology mandating warfare against non-believers.
Unbelievers who do not have the true faith (they don't mean Buddhism) must live in a constant state of subordination (Qur'an 9:29)
Muslims are required to fight non-believers: not just exhorted to, but required. Islam mandates the conquest of infidel lands.

Petros Agapetos
01-12-2019, 02:37 AM
What do you think of this thread?

Petros Agapetos
01-12-2019, 04:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAuS3K5Qdq4&t=1374s

Dick
01-12-2019, 04:17 AM
What do you think of this thread?

:thumb001:

Petros Agapetos
01-12-2019, 08:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv4Bk7qnX-8&t=19s

Petros Agapetos
01-12-2019, 09:23 AM
http://i65.tinypic.com/dxfndj.jpg

Notice how the countries in which homosexuaity is illegal coincide with Muslim countries.
Notice that in countries where sharia law is fully implemented, homosexuals are executed.
Islam prescribes the death penalty for homosexuals (for homosexual sex more precisely).

Petros Agapetos
01-12-2019, 11:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIdQ_x1BJGY

Robert Spencer has chronicled the 1400 year history of jihad in his book "History of Jihad - from Muhammad to ISIS".

Islamic Terrorism is as Old as Islam itself.

Petros Agapetos
01-12-2019, 04:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cGAYkwxnJs

Petros Agapetos
01-13-2019, 05:26 AM
"Robert Spencer incarnates intellectual courage when, all over the world, governments, intellectuals, churches universities and media crawl under a hegemonic Universal Caliphate's New Order. His achievement in the battle for the survival of free speech and dignitiy of man will remain as a fundamental monument to the love of , and the self-sacrifice for, liberty. In our epoch of intellectual jihadism, this honest book is essential to understand the challenges of the 21st century."
-------Bat Ye'or, author of Eurabia: The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam; and "Islam and Dhimmitude"


"Tony Blair calls the Koran "prgressive [and] humanitarian" but Robert Spencer has actually read the scipture and begs to differ. In an informed, sardonic antidote to the usual soft-peddling of the Koran, he concludes that its actual contents should alarm infidels and prompt them to defend their "freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and legal equality of all people."
-------Daniel Pipes, director, Middle East Forum

"For 1400 years Muslim leadership spread misinformation and covered up what is in the Koran, even criminalizing exposing the truth or asking questions. The truth is too scary for many, both Muslim and non-Muslims. I thank Robert Spencer for bringing the truth of what is in the Koran to non-Muslims."
-------Nonie Darwish, ex-Muslim and author of "Now They Call Me infidel"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuZD-uvU5c

Petros Agapetos
01-14-2019, 03:25 AM
1. Should hate mongering imams be immediately rounded up and deported?
2. Should we monitor mosques, and shut down mosques that teach treason, sedition, and jihad etc.?
3. Should we implement chain-deportations?: When a Muslim commits a terrorist act, the whole family is thrown out of the country. [This should serve as a great deterrant.]

Petros Agapetos
01-14-2019, 05:56 PM
1. Worship Allah alone.
2. Be kind to their paren
3. Provide for their relatives, the needy, and travelers, and not be wasteful.
4. Not kill their children for fear of poverty
5. Not commit adultery
6. Not take life which Allah has made sacred except for just cause. Also, whoso is slain wrongfully We have given power unto his heir, but let him not commut excess in slaying - that is one should mae resititution for wrongful death.
7. Not seize the wealth of orphans
8. GIve full measure when ye measure, and weigh with a balance that is straight - that is conduct business honestly.
9. Pursue not that of which thou has no knowledge
10. Not walk on the earth with insolence.

Petros Agapetos
01-15-2019, 05:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YczFXpabPSo

Petros Agapetos
01-15-2019, 08:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg78iy3UIAM&t=2074s

The Ignorance of Westerners about Islam

Petros Agapetos
01-15-2019, 09:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK9yOi0V1So

25% of US Muslims under the age of 30 say that suicide bombing for the sake of Islam is justified.
"I don't know how much more you can take of this Muslim thing..."
"You've been beaten into submission by the liberal politicians who don't realize they are commiting suicide for you and your children."
"Let me tell you something. Not all religions are peaceful. Not all religions are equal. Some religions teach them to kill"
"Did they buy out Bush at all? Islam is on the war path around the world wherever you look. They don't get along with their neighbours. They never have and never will."
"We liberate Iraq and they stone girls to death for dating a different brand of Islam"

Petros Agapetos
01-15-2019, 09:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGMR9dnv2VM

Petros Agapetos
01-17-2019, 01:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfKLV6rmLxE

Petros Agapetos
01-17-2019, 04:22 AM
The rulings for the four four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence and the Ja'fari school in Shia Islam can be summarised as follows:

Hanafi - recommends three days of imprisonment before execution to allow repentance, although the delay before killing the Muslim apostate is not mandatory. Apostates who are men must be killed, states the Hanafi Sunni fiqh, while women must be held in solitary confinement and beaten every three days till they recant and return to Islam.

Maliki - allows three days for recantation, after which the apostate must be killed. The same applies to both men and women apostates according to the traditional view of Sunni Maliki fiqh.

Shafi'i - waiting period of three days is required to allow the Muslim apostate to repent and return to Islam. After the wait, execution is the traditional recommended punishment for both men and women apostates.

Hanbali - three day waiting period should be granted. Apostate is invited three times to repent. Execution is the traditionally recommended punishment for both genders of Muslim apostates.

And in Shia Islam:

Ja'fari - waiting period not necessary, but may be granted according to this Shia fiqh, but only if the apostate was born a disbeliever (Murtad al-Milli). A male apostate must be executed, states the Ja'fari fiqh, while a female apostate must be held in solitary confinement and beaten on the hours of salah with her food tightly rationed till she repents and returns to Islam.

Source: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Apostasy

Petros Agapetos
01-18-2019, 03:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6MiiR9XKAY

Petros Agapetos
01-24-2019, 06:40 AM
There is no sect nor school of jurisprudence in Islam which does not teach the necessity for Muslims to wage war and subjugate non-believers under the rule of Islamic law; until the non-believers convert to Islam (Chapter 9:29). The jihad continues today: Europe could be Islamic by end of the 21st century.

Petros Agapetos
01-24-2019, 06:46 AM
"No one is good but God alone." - Mark 10:18

"The Jews say: 'Allah's hand is chained.' May their own hands be chained! May they be cursed for what they say! By no means. His hands are both outstretched: He bestows as He will." Qur'an 5:64

The idea that Allah's had is "not chained" is a reflection of this absuolute freedom and sovereignty. If God is good, as Jesus says, His goodness may be discernable in the consistency of creation; but in Islam, even to call Allah good would be to bind him.

Petros Agapetos
01-24-2019, 06:52 AM
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs in return is the garden of Paradise: they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth..." Qur'an 9:111

Petros Agapetos
01-25-2019, 04:11 AM
Can the Koran be reinterpreted?

Most Western analysts assume - generally without error having opened a Koran - that the primary interetation of its martial and hateful verses is beningn. Thus verses enjoining warfare against unbelievers are described as applying only to ancient historical situations that are never to recur, or to precise conditions for warfare that are unlikely to be met today. Many of these benign interpretations are deceptive and untenable. For example , Muslim theologican and scholars in the West commonly assert that the Koran sanctions only defensive warfare, and to equate this with Catholic just war theory.

Petros Agapetos
01-25-2019, 04:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6H1adN4V_Y

aafiak
01-25-2019, 07:18 AM
With all your references and hate speech towards Islam, all I can see that you are bit scared and insecure about your own beliefs.
Islam has always been the religion of peace, as it was made only for Human themselves.
If Islam is about hate and killing of non-followers, you won't exist when Muslims ruled the World.

Petros Agapetos
01-25-2019, 10:15 AM
With all your references and hate speech towards Islam, all I can see that you are bit scared and insecure about your own beliefs.
Islam has always been the religion of peace, as it was made only for Human themselves.
If Islam is about hate and killing of non-followers, you won't exist when Muslims ruled the World.

Islam has never been a religion of peace. Wherever Muslims have gone their have never gotten along with their negihbours. They never have and never will. If we give them Israel, they'll come back for Spain. The Qur'an says "drive them out from where they drove you out" which means that any territory that Islam has ruled has to be recaptured by the adherents of Islam. Islam has doctrines of warfare and violence against non-believers. In chapter 47: verse 4 in the Qur'an, Allah tells Muslims to behead non-Muslims. It says to strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. The Qur'an also tells Muslims to conquer, subjugate or killl Christians and Jews. It is a millitaristic fascist faith. It is a political ideology cloaked in religion.

Petros Agapetos
01-26-2019, 01:50 AM
What is Islamophobia, anyway?

- attacking the entire religion of Islam as a problem for the world
- condemning all of Islam and its history as extremist
-denying the active existence, in the contemporary world of a moderate Muslims majority
- insisting that Muslims accede to the demands of non-Muslims (based on ignorance and arrogance) for various theological changes in their religion
- treating all conflicts involving Muslims (including for exampole that in Bosnia-Hercegovina a decage ago), as the fault of Muslims themselves.
-inciting war against Islam as a whole

Petros Agapetos
01-27-2019, 04:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLoFzKhE-o

aafiak
01-28-2019, 05:38 AM
Islam has never been a religion of peace. Wherever Muslims have gone their have never gotten along with their negihbours. They never have and never will. If we give them Israel, they'll come back for Spain. The Qur'an says "drive them out from where they drove you out" which means that any territory that Islam has ruled has to be recaptured by the adherents of Islam. Islam has doctrines of warfare and violence against non-believers. In chapter 47: verse 4 in the Qur'an, Allah tells Muslims to behead non-Muslims. It says to strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. The Qur'an also tells Muslims to conquer, subjugate or killl Christians and Jews. It is a millitaristic fascist faith. It is a political ideology cloaked in religion.

"GIVE THEM BACK" would be the appropiate sentence. How Jews occupy this land and how they are killing the men, women and children is a clear example for the world that what kind of faiths you got.
Talking about the peace while having a blood of innocent people on your hands is funny.

For the verses you are referring from Quran and trying to misguide others won't make you a hero. For every verse of the Quran, there is a situation behind it which explains what is the actual meaning of the verse. I would've never to think twice before claiming that whoever read and can understand Quran, will surely going to embrace Islam without any doubt.


47:4 (https://quran.com/47)

The verse you were claiming, it also contains situation of battle in it, not killing of innocent people cowardly like what you people are doing in Palestine.

Petros Agapetos
01-30-2019, 12:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19j1gVt6fT4

Petros Agapetos
02-02-2019, 08:05 AM
The Quran is clear in its hostility toward disbelievers:

(8:12) “(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels… “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

The Quran also contains many other belligerent verses, as well as anti-Semitic messages, calls for the killing of gays and apostates, teachings about the inferiority of women, and more.

One example: it should be common knowledge by now that Hamas aims to obliterate Israel (“from the river to the sea”), an aim that is driven by this Quran verse:

(2:191) And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

That the Arab Muslims were not actually “expelled” is not relevant as far as Hamas is concerned; they insist they were expelled, and so this verse applies.

A few other anti-Semitic passages:

(5:33) Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land.

Read in the context of 5:32, 5:33 is a warning to the Jews.

(5:63) Why do the rabbis and religious scholars not forbid them from saying what is sinful and devouring what is unlawful? How wretched is what they have been practicing.
(5:64) And the Jews say, “The hand of Allah is chained.” Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say.

coolfrenchguy
02-02-2019, 09:03 AM
before throwing me stones, it's proved that muhammad had never exist,no single clue of his existance,it's scientifically proved, islam it'a complete lie made of reported lies,by illetrate people at the time
yes because in 622 in the middle of a fucking desert ,schools aren't popping up like mushrooms,and what made me laugh, the pagan adoration of piece of meteorite,seriously they adore a piece of rock, i don't see the mystical here,everything that islam has, like xianity, has been STOLEN and corrupted from Ancient Pagan Religions that are many thousands of years older

Antimatter
02-03-2019, 08:40 AM
You think you know about Islam, but did you know:

1. Islam teaches that Muslims must wage war to impose Islamic law on non-Muslim states
2. Today's jihad terrorists have the same motives and goals as the Muslims who fought the Crusaders.
3. The Crusades were defensive conflicts; after over 400 years of Muslim aggression against Christendom
4. Muslim persecution of Christian has continued for 13 centuries - and still goes on.

That's pure, uhh, BS.

1. No proof of this, most of the wars raged against Meccans by Muhammad were due to the Meccans expelling them from Mecca and forced no one to give the Muslims anything such as food supplies for consecutive 3 years. Islam was going to hurt the Meccan trade and religious pilgrimage "industry" so they fought it with all they could.

2. No. Today's "Jihad" terrorists fight to achieve specific goals made by Western nations i.e USA and UK to never achieve peace in the Greater Middle East, thus giving Israel a chance to abide/survive.

3. "Against Christendom" I can say by all means that the wars of conquest in Europe were territorial, the Muslims conquered Iberia and France just like did with the non-Christian Indians and Chinese. Obviously they had no right, just like the Crusades were politically ambitioned campaigns not merely religious. The East was quite rich back then, and this was some form of proto-colonialism of the Europeans in the Middle East. The Holy land was Jerusalem and surrounding cities, not Antioch, Tripoli and Acre etc....

4. This has no basis at all. Can you give me authentic proofs or sources for such horrible persecutions that happened? Because most of them tend to be fake.

Petros Agapetos
02-03-2019, 11:24 AM
That's pure, uhh, BS.

1. No proof of this, most of the wars raged against Meccans by Muhammad were due to the Meccans expelling them from Mecca and forced no one to give the Muslims anything such as food supplies for consecutive 3 years. Islam was going to hurt the Meccan trade and religious pilgrimage "industry" so they fought it with all they could.

2. No. Today's "Jihad" terrorists fight to achieve specific goals made by Western nations i.e USA and UK to never achieve peace in the Greater Middle East, thus giving Israel a chance to abide/survive.

3. "Against Christendom" I can say by all means that the wars of conquest in Europe were territorial, the Muslims conquered Iberia and France just like did with the non-Christian Indians and Chinese. Obviously they had no right, just like the Crusades were politically ambitioned campaigns not merely religious. The East was quite rich back then, and this was some form of proto-colonialism of the Europeans in the Middle East. The Holy land was Jerusalem and surrounding cities, not Antioch, Tripoli and Acre etc....

4. This has no basis at all. Can you give me authentic proofs or sources for such horrible persecutions that happened? Because most of them tend to be fake.

1. Muhammad fought 58 battles in his lifetime; 57 of them were offensive.
2. Islamic jihad has got nothing to do with establishing peace. It is about bloody warfare.
3. The crusades were a 450 years belated small scale defensive reaction to jihad conquests of what was once over half of the Christian world.
4. Islamic persecution of Christians is Quranically based, and it is in the hadiths and biography of Muhammad. Muhammad ordered on his deathbed that Christians and Jews be expelled from Arabia. Chapter 9: V29 of the Quran gives Muslims an order to fight against Jews and Christians until they are subjugated under Islamic law and pay a tax as willing submission and feel themselves subdued. And I can give you more quotations from the Quran to that effect.

Petros Agapetos
02-03-2019, 11:49 AM
http://i64.tinypic.com/m3cl4.jpg

Petros Agapetos
02-03-2019, 11:53 AM
"There is no Muslim version of 'love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you' or 'if anyone strikes you on the right cheek turn to him the other also'."

"I have written on numerous occasions that there is no distinction in the American Muslim community between peaceful Muslims and jihadists. While Americans prefer to imagine that the vast majority of American Muslims are civic-minded patriots who accept wholeheartedly the parameters of American pluralism, this proposition has actually never been proven."

"I have never said that the terrorists' interpretation of Islam is the accurate or correct one. But I have pointed out that the terrorists portray themselves quite successfully among Muslims as the exponents of true and pure Islam, and moderates have mounted no successful response as yet."

"There is no reliable way for American authorities to distinguish jihadists and potential jihadists from peaceful Muslims."

"Freedom of speech encompasses precisely the freedom to annoy, to ridicule, and to offend."

Petros Agapetos
02-03-2019, 11:56 AM
http://i68.tinypic.com/x28fb5.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/x0r2ad.jpg

Gold-Shekel
02-03-2019, 01:22 PM
The real point of Islam is to make you butthurt it seems.

Antimatter
02-04-2019, 09:23 AM
1. Muhammad fought 58 battles in his lifetime; 57 of them were offensive.
2. Islamic jihad has got nothing to do with establishing peace. It is about bloody warfare.
3. The crusades were a 450 years belated small scale defensive reaction to jihad conquests of what was once over half of the Christian world.
4. Islamic persecution of Christians is Quranically based, and it is in the hadiths and biography of Muhammad. Muhammad ordered on his deathbed that Christians and Jews be expelled from Arabia. Chapter 9: V29 of the Quran gives Muslims an order to fight against Jews and Christians until they are subjugated under Islamic law and pay a tax as willing submission and feel themselves subdued. And I can give you more quotations from the Quran to that effect.

1. "57 were offensive" and I have explained the reasons they fought ^

2. Jihad is classified into inner ("greater") jihad, which involves a struggle against one's own base impulses, and external ("lesser") jihad, which is further subdivided into jihad of the pen/tongue (debate or persuasion) and jihad of the sword.

I was referring to modern-day "Jihadists" who all have a common political ambition: Kicking Europeans out of their countries. If you check the activity of the most known Islamists such as Mujahideen, Hezbollah and Hamas for example. Mujahideen were an American invention to counter the expanding Soviet influence. The mujahideen fought against Soviet and DRA troops during the Soviet–Afghan War (1979–1989). Hezbollah's aims are at "liberating" the Lebanese territory of Israeli occupation and aggression. As for the Hamas movement, they also want to liberate "Palestine" of the Israeli hands.

None of these people cited religious reasons for fighting or bombing.

3. Crusades were due to Byzantines calling for help of Muslim Turks conquering Anatolian lands. Then it evolved to taking "The Holy land" of the Muslims who despite being in rule of that land, never persecuted or attacked Christian pilgrims. And I'd like a source for that.

4. I can quote you in the same time Qur'anic verses that spoke of peace with the People of the Scripture i.e Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Sabaens etc..

Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided.

Whether they are the ones who believe (in the Arabian Prophet), or whether they are Jews, Christians or Sabians – all who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and do righteous deeds – their reward is surely secure with their Lord; they need have no fear, nor shall they grieve.

They are not [all] the same; among the People of the Scripture is a community standing [in obedience], reciting the verses of Allah during periods of the night and prostrating [in prayer].

Antimatter
02-04-2019, 09:27 AM
"There is no Muslim version of 'love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you' or 'if anyone strikes you on the right cheek turn to him the other also'."

Who spend [in the cause of Allah ] during ease and hardship and who restrain anger and who pardon the people - and Allah loves the doers of good

However, a person does has a right to defend himself in Islam.

Nazarene
02-04-2019, 09:28 AM
Islam promotes hatred and genocide

Petros Agapetos
02-04-2019, 05:31 PM
Islam promotes hatred and genocide

Islam is genocidal against Jews. There is a hadith in Bukhari that says, "the end times will not come until Muslims kill the Jews. The Jews will hide behind rocks, and even the rocks will call on Muslims to kill the Jews." Muhammad on his deathbed said there is to be no two religions in Arabia (all religion should be for Allah). This is why there are no churches or synagogues in Arabia (now Saudi Arabia).

Petros Agapetos
02-05-2019, 02:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFQ4qAIKJy0

aafiak
02-06-2019, 09:09 AM
The Quran is clear in its hostility toward disbelievers:

(8:12) “(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels… “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

The Quran also contains many other belligerent verses, as well as anti-Semitic messages, calls for the killing of gays and apostates, teachings about the inferiority of women, and more.

One example: it should be common knowledge by now that Hamas aims to obliterate Israel (“from the river to the sea”), an aim that is driven by this Quran verse:

(2:191) And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

That the Arab Muslims were not actually “expelled” is not relevant as far as Hamas is concerned; they insist they were expelled, and so this verse applies.

A few other anti-Semitic passages:

(5:33) Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land.

Read in the context of 5:32, 5:33 is a warning to the Jews.

(5:63) Why do the rabbis and religious scholars not forbid them from saying what is sinful and devouring what is unlawful? How wretched is what they have been practicing.
(5:64) And the Jews say, “The hand of Allah is chained.” Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say.

I already quoted, Quranic verses is not as simple to understand, as you are trying to portray here.
The verses got the situation with it, so stop spreading hate against Islam with your stupid logics.
What our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) taught us by his practices and sayings, are enough to explain what our religion is made of:


Narrated 'Ubada bin As-Samit:

who took part in the battle of Badr and was a Naqib (a person heading a group of six persons), on the night of Al-'Aqaba pledge: Allah's Apostle said while a group of his companions were around him, "Swear allegiance to me for:

1. Not to join anything in worship along with Allah.

2. Not to steal.

3. Not to commit illegal sexual intercourse.

4. Not to kill your children.

5. Not to accuse an innocent person.

6. Not to be disobedient (when ordered) to do good deed."

The Prophet (ﷺ) added: "Whoever among you fulfills his pledge will be rewarded by Allah. And whoever indulges in any one of them (except the ascription of partners to Allah) and gets the punishment in this world, that punishment will be an expiation for that sin. And if one indulges in any of them, and Allah conceals his sin, it is up to Him to forgive or punish him (in the Hereafter)." 'Ubada bin As-Samit added: "So we swore allegiance for these." (points to Allah's Apostle) ----- Sahih al-Bukhari 18 (https://sunnah.com/bukhari/2)

aafiak
02-06-2019, 09:14 AM
Allah SWT is the Creator of everything and HE is the strongest.
He doesn't need humans to spread Islam by force, so keep your stupid quotes with you.

aafiak
02-06-2019, 09:19 AM
The people who are claiming to be the peace lovers are killing innocent people around the world in the name of peace.
Palestine is one of the main examples, dear Jews stop defaming Islam, your acts are enough to define you.

Roy
02-06-2019, 09:32 AM
https://66.media.tumblr.com/e874823e4706702e07fd61b0b6552c5f/tumblr_nn9o4iPYxY1ql5yr7o1_500.gif

Petros Agapetos
02-07-2019, 11:51 AM
The Crusade We Must Fight Today

! Against the Islamization of Europe

Will tourissts in Paris in the year 2105 take a moment to visit the mosque of Notre Dame and the "Eiffel Minaret" . Through mass immigration and official dhimmitude from European leaders. Muslims are accomplishing today what they failed to do at the time of the Crusaders: conquer Europe. How quickly is Europe being Islamized? So quickly even historian Bernard Lewis, who has continued throughout his honour-filled career to be disingenuous about Islamic radicalism and terrorism.

Next, ! We must reconfigure our NATO alliances to fight the global jihad.

aafiak
02-14-2019, 08:57 AM
Funny!
Any views or fight plan for the Jews killing innocent people in Palestine?

Antimatter
02-22-2019, 01:04 PM
Funny!
Any views or fight plan for the Jews killing innocent people in Palestine?

But the Jews were hurt and had their human rights taken away in Europe. They first were exposed to massive slaughter during the call to crusaders in Europe, they left with the Muslims from Spain because of the Spanish inquisitions against non-Christians in Europe only to get deported later due to Nazi persecution and extermination of the Jews in Europe. So they had to be given their own lands and rights because they were people of misfortune. Thus they were given the lands of the Palestinians, a third side with totally no hand in all of these atrocities and where Jews used to live side-by-side with Muslims and Christians and other religious communities.

Something is not right though.... Wonder what that would be!

Teutone
02-22-2019, 11:26 PM
Funny!
Any views or fight plan for the Jews killing innocent people in Palestine?

Why should I give a shit about Palestine?

aafiak
03-13-2019, 09:05 AM
Why should I give a shit about Palestine?

Then you are not supposed to defame Islam here or teach humanity to others.
You people are the killers of innocents and causing harm to the world, that's what you've been taught I believe then!

aafiak
03-13-2019, 09:11 AM
But the Jews were hurt and had their human rights taken away in Europe. They first were exposed to massive slaughter during the call to crusaders in Europe, they left with the Muslims from Spain because of the Spanish inquisitions against non-Christians in Europe only to get deported later due to Nazi persecution and extermination of the Jews in Europe. So they had to be given their own lands and rights because they were people of misfortune. Thus they were given the lands of the Palestinians, a third side with totally no hand in all of these atrocities and where Jews used to live side-by-side with Muslims and Christians and other religious communities.

Something is not right though.... Wonder what that would be!

That doesn't mean you are going to hurt the people who were innocent and wasn't involved in such kind of activity. The person or people who were involved in this crime gets their punishment. If someone allows you to stay at his place, you weren't going to occupy the place by killing the people who owns the place.

Teutone
03-13-2019, 12:51 PM
Then you are not supposed to defame Islam here or teach humanity to others.
You people are the killers of innocents and causing harm to the world, that's what you've been taught I believe then!

I dont teach humanity to others, I dont give a shit about the conflict means I dont support anyside.

The Lawspeaker
04-26-2019, 01:17 PM
I already quoted, Quranic verses is not as simple to understand, as you are trying to portray here.
The verses got the situation with it, so stop spreading hate against Islam with your stupid logics.
What our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) taught us by his practices and sayings, are enough to explain what our religion is made of:


Narrated 'Ubada bin As-Samit:

who took part in the battle of Badr and was a Naqib (a person heading a group of six persons), on the night of Al-'Aqaba pledge: Allah's Apostle said while a group of his companions were around him, "Swear allegiance to me for:

1. Not to join anything in worship along with Allah.

2. Not to steal.

3. Not to commit illegal sexual intercourse.

4. Not to kill your children.

5. Not to accuse an innocent person.

6. Not to be disobedient (when ordered) to do good deed."

The Prophet (ﷺ) added: "Whoever among you fulfills his pledge will be rewarded by Allah. And whoever indulges in any one of them (except the ascription of partners to Allah) and gets the punishment in this world, that punishment will be an expiation for that sin. And if one indulges in any of them, and Allah conceals his sin, it is up to Him to forgive or punish him (in the Hereafter)." 'Ubada bin As-Samit added: "So we swore allegiance for these." (points to Allah's Apostle) ----- Sahih al-Bukhari 18 (https://sunnah.com/bukhari/2)


That ONLY applies to Muslims. For the others: Kill the unbelievers wherever you may find them.

aafiak
06-27-2019, 08:43 AM
Not applied to Muslims only. Where ever it's required, it is mentioned specifically for Muslims.
Not to accuse an innocent person means a person not a Muslim person here.
So generally Islam is not limited to Muslims only, it's a religion for Humanity.

The Lawspeaker
06-27-2019, 08:52 AM
Not applied to Muslims only. Where ever it's required, it is mentioned specifically for Muslims.
Not to accuse an innocent person means a person not a Muslim person here.
Taqiyah. Nice try. Now fuck off !

aafiak
06-28-2019, 09:22 AM
Now that's what defines your teachings.
Getting abusive won't going to help you mate.
Try to get the art of absorbing and learning, as the world is a learning process.

Have a nice day ahead!

The Lawspeaker
06-28-2019, 11:13 AM
Now that's what defines your teachings.
Getting abusive won't going to help you mate.
Try to get the art of absorbing and learning, as the world is a learning process.

Have a nice day ahead!

Islam aren't teachings... other than in death. We have seen what Islam is all about here: rape, blowing up commuters, robbing old women etc. Screw your death cult. Damn it to hell !

Antimatter
08-02-2019, 02:53 PM
Taqiyah. Nice try. Now fuck off !

One should abstain from speaking when he is ignorant of what a word means. Do you know what does Taqiyyah mean? No.

Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses.