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Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 02:49 PM
http://oi66.tinypic.com/wufll0.jpg

http://oi64.tinypic.com/2cwpkef.jpg

Pribislav
12-28-2018, 03:04 PM
Where is the influence of you "Vlach" ancestors? :)

Dacul
12-28-2018, 03:04 PM
What calculator should this be?

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:05 PM
Where is the nfluence of you "Vlach" ancestors? :)

i changed profile from vlach to serb. you were right

Kaspias
12-28-2018, 03:06 PM
G E D M A T C H

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:06 PM
What calculator should this be?

it's not an calculator, this is company i tested with

Dick
12-28-2018, 03:08 PM
Congratulations. Can you download your raw data? If so use this tool

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

Dacul
12-28-2018, 03:08 PM
Troo Slavic invader!
But that black raven hair,is surely of Germanic origins, early Slavs never ever had black raven hair.
If you take the physical description of original Norway Vikings that settled in Iceland, some are described as black hair.
A minority of them, like 10% - 15% or so, but anyway, original Germanic people had also raven black hair.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:11 PM
Congratulations. Can you download your raw data? If so use this tool

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

I am R1b! thank god , i tought i will be L like another guy with my surname
http://oi67.tinypic.com/jkzvdj.jpg

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 03:12 PM
I am R1b! thank god , i tough i will be L like another guy with my surname
http://oi67.tinypic.com/jkzvdj.jpg

R1B? What the fuck?

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:14 PM
R1B? What the fuck?

what does it mean tho ? pretty happy with it bruv, L is too exotic

Dick
12-28-2018, 03:16 PM
I am R1b! thank god , i tought i will be L like another guy with my surname
http://oi67.tinypic.com/jkzvdj.jpg

I’m guessing you’re r1b u152, Moraca clan

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 03:17 PM
what does it mean tho ? pretty happy with it bruv, L is too exotic

R1b is Albanian in Balkans I'm pretty sure. Your ancestor was likely slavicised.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:18 PM
I’m guessing you’re r1b u152, Moraca clan

am i celtic ?

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:20 PM
R1b is Albanian in Balkans I'm pretty sure. Your ancestor was likely slavicised.

wait i'm confused now xD

Dacul
12-28-2018, 03:20 PM
I am R1b! thank god , i tought i will be L like another guy with my surname
http://oi67.tinypic.com/jkzvdj.jpg

Even worse Slavic Bro, that is British Kelts Y DNA!
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/France-1357
:)
Look at someone that is from same larger branch with your paternal DNA from Yorkshire, England.
Someone else from Britain, matching your paternal DNA:
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34513-R1b-question

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 03:21 PM
wait i'm confused now xD

So am I, I didn't expect you to be R1b lol.

Pribislav
12-28-2018, 03:21 PM
R1b is Albanian in Balkans I'm pretty sure. Your ancestor was likely slavicised.

U152 is not Albanan R1b.

Albanian R1b is branch BY611, former Sandžak mufti Zukorlić belong to this branch.

Dick
12-28-2018, 03:22 PM
am i celtic ?

Maybe priblsav know more about it. I think viriato got the same ydna prediction

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:22 PM
don't know does it mean anything, but i was red haired as child

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 03:23 PM
U152 is not Albanan R1b.

Albanian R1b is branch BY611, former Sandžak mufti Zukorlić belong to this branch.

What is his clades origin according to this test?

Morley isn't perfect by the way, I get different subclades with Morley depending on data I use, 23andme gives me dinaric south, ancestrydna dinaric north for example, part of the reason I have ordered y-67. He should probably take a Y dna test to find out his accurate clade.

Leto
12-28-2018, 03:24 PM
Great. You may be Central European or close to it. Try GEDmatch, MDLP World was very accurate for other Croats.

Gründig
12-28-2018, 03:24 PM
what does it mean tho ? pretty happy with it bruv, L is too exotic

It means little and makes up a very small amount of you.

dosas
12-28-2018, 03:25 PM
Welcome to the R1b1a2 Balkan, mate! I suggest to do a ftdna Y-DNA test to pinpoint the clade.

Dick
12-28-2018, 03:27 PM
don't know does it mean anything, but i was red haired as child

Moraca clan were fierce warriors. No wonder your ancestor killed a Turk and stole his horse

Dacul
12-28-2018, 03:27 PM
British Kelts passed through Balkans, like 2000 years ago.
Some settled here.
Your Y DNA is of Keltic origins.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:28 PM
So am I, I didn't expect you to be R1b lol.

didn't except it either to be honest, but it's a pleasant suprise

Pribislav
12-28-2018, 03:29 PM
What is his clades origin according to this test?

Morley isn't perfect by the way, I get different subclades with Morley depending on data I use, 23andme gives me dinaric south, ancestrydna dinaric north for example, part of the reason I have ordered y-67. He should probably take a Y dna test to find out his accurate clade.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y10789/

Montenegrin clan Piperi are predominantly R1b-BY611, because part of them have Albanan origin.

Vlatko Vukovic
12-28-2018, 03:30 PM
Troo Slavic invader!
But that black raven hair,is surely of Germanic origins, early Slavs never ever had black raven hair.
If you take the physical description of original Norway Vikings that settled in Iceland, some are described as black hair.
A minority of them, like 10% - 15% or so, but anyway, original Germanic people had also raven black hair.

Slavic invader R1b? R1b wasn't presented neither among proto-Slavs, but also not among later Slavs who invaded Balkan.

Pribislav
12-28-2018, 03:32 PM
British Kelts passed through Balkans, like 2000 years ago.
Some settled here.
Your Y DNA is of Keltic origins.

If he is U152 than his paternal ancestor arrived to the Balkans with Celts or Romans.

Romans were pred. R1b-U152. This haplogroup is strongest in Italy, has peak in northern Italy.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:33 PM
ran my data trough gedmatch
eurogenes k13

http://oi66.tinypic.com/sxnj2s.jpg
http://oi65.tinypic.com/2qa1g0g.jpg

Leto
12-28-2018, 03:33 PM
R1b is first and foremost the Yamnaya haplogroup, so it's definitely badass.

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 03:34 PM
Damn you're White Nato, you get less med than me even..

Take an FTDNA Y dna test next! :cool:

Pribislav
12-28-2018, 03:36 PM
ran my data trough gedmatch
eurogenes k13

http://oi66.tinypic.com/sxnj2s.jpg
http://oi65.tinypic.com/2qa1g0g.jpg

Do you have K15 and K12b?

Dacul
12-28-2018, 03:37 PM
Slavic invader R1b? R1b wasn't presented neither among proto-Slavs, but also not among later Slavs who invaded Balkan.

What about Gallicia from SW Ukraine?
Or why South Slavs are calling the raven vran which is an obvious cognate to bran ,which should be how Welsh Celtic language is telling to the raven?
There is even a web site called "Balkan Celts".
Who do you think was crafting metal weapons to the Slavs, not some Kelts that remained in the area ?
Would be really interesting to see the Croats that are having family Kovacevic (blacksmith) what Y DNA they bear, most of them.

North Atlantic, 30% ?
Clear Eastern European :) .

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:38 PM
Damn you're White Nato, you get less med than me even..

Take an FTDNA Y dna test next! :cool:

yeah, i will for sure. would be nice to find out my exact subclade. funny enough i expected shit ton of balkan or jew because i am quite dark haired/skinned

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 03:39 PM
What about Gallicia from SW Ukraine?
Or why South Slavs are calling the raven vran which is an obvious cognate to bran ,which should be how Welsh Celtic language is telling to the raven?
There is even a web site called "Balkan Celts".
Who do you think was crafting metal weapons to the Slavs, not some Kelts that remained in the area ?
Would be really interesting to see the Croats that are having family Kovacevic (blacksmith) what Y DNA they bear, most of them.

North Atlantic, 30% ?
Clear Eastern European :) .

This is very interesting. I did not know this.

Leto
12-28-2018, 03:40 PM
What about Gallicia from SW Ukraine?
Or why South Slavs are calling the raven vran which is an obvious cognate to bran ,which should be how Welsh Celtic language is telling to the raven?
There is even a web site called "Balkan Celts".
Vran is voron in East Slavic. Just saying.

Leto
12-28-2018, 03:41 PM
yeah, i will for sure. would be nice to find out my exact subclade. funny enough i expected shit ton of balkan or jew because i am quite dark haired/skinned
Yet you're 100% white racially :cool: :thumb001:

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 03:41 PM
yeah, i will for sure. would be nice to find out my exact subclade. funny enough i expected shit ton of balkan or jew because i am quite dark haired/skinned

R1b is often Albanian, but it looks like your clade is celtic in origin. You'd need to take an FTDNA Y dna test to find out your exact clade, Morley may be wrong as it gives me two different clades based on different autosomal data. https://www.familytreedna.com/products/y-dna 4 different tests, if you're interested it may be worth you purchasing one, I have just purchased Y-67.

Your results seem north plotting, you get a few percent less combined med than me and I'm only half Serb, half NW Euro, I wonder where you plot map wise.

Dacul
12-28-2018, 03:43 PM
This is very interesting. I did not know this.

https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/


(https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/)

He is part early Celtic, part early Slav, because he have no North Sea admixture as all French and British of our days got.
Very interesting.

Later Slavs got Scando admixture and other types of Germanic admixture.

Croatia seems a very isolated area, from genetic point of view, genetics was kept there identical from the Slavic migration from around 600 AD, till in our days.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:45 PM
Do you have K15 and K12b?

eurogenes K15
http://oi68.tinypic.com/6oifrm.jpg
http://oi67.tinypic.com/33w1gle.jpg

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:47 PM
Yet you're 100% white racially :cool: :thumb001:

yeah nice to know lol. at least we all are blue eyed in my family

Leto
12-28-2018, 03:48 PM
yeah nice to know lol. at least we all are blue eyed in my family
Post Dodecad K12b and MDLP World (accurate for Croats).

Pribislav
12-28-2018, 03:49 PM
What about Gallicia from SW Ukraine?
Or why South Slavs are calling the raven vran which is an obvious cognate to bran ,which should be how Welsh Celtic language is telling to the raven?
There is even a web site called "Balkan Celts".
Who do you think was crafting metal weapons to the Slavs, not some Kelts that remained in the area ?
Would be really interesting to see the Croats that are having family Kovacevic (blacksmith) what Y DNA they bear, most of them.

Kovačević is also common name among Serbs.


There is 8 Serbs with surname Kovačevć on Serban DNA project:

Kovačević (Stari Vlah, southwestern Seriba) - I1>I-A11380
Kovačević (Slavonia) - I2>I-Y3120
Kovačević (Zeta, Montenegro) - I2>I-Y3120
Kovačević (Mačva, western Serbia) - R1a>R-YP3987
Kovačević (Stari Vlah southwestern Serba) - I2-I-Y56203
Kovačević (Stara Hercegovna, western Montenegro) - I2>I-PH908
Kovačević (Mačva, western Serbia) - I2>I-PH908
Kovačević (Slavonia) - E>E-Z1057

Bosniensis
12-28-2018, 03:51 PM
Nice results, well Austro-Hungarian connection is there :)

You are not Serb though.

Vlatko Vukovic
12-28-2018, 03:54 PM
What about Gallicia from SW Ukraine?
Or why South Slavs are calling the raven vran which is an obvious cognate to bran ,which should be how Welsh Celtic language is telling to the raven?
There is even a web site called "Balkan Celts".
Who do you think was crafting metal weapons to the Slavs, not some Kelts that remained in the area ?
Would be really interesting to see the Croats that are having family Kovacevic (blacksmith) what Y DNA they bear, most of them.

North Atlantic, 30% ?
Clear Eastern European :) .

I didn't say that Celts didn't lived and assimilated among southern Slavs, i actually said that they didn't invaded Balkan through "Slavic migrations". That's the point.

According to "Serbian DNA Project", there are Kovačević's I2a-DS, R1a-Z280, and E-Z1057. None of them R1b.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:55 PM
Post Dodecad K12b and MDLP World (accurate for Croats).

dodecad k12b
http://oi68.tinypic.com/2vucz1g.jpg
http://oi66.tinypic.com/33bfib9.jpg

Dick
12-28-2018, 03:58 PM
Kovačević is also common name among Serbs.


There is 8 Serbs with surname Kovačevć on Serban DNA project:

Kovačević (Stari Vlah, southwestern Seriba) - I1>I-A11380
Kovačević (Slavonia) - I2>I-Y3120
Kovačević (Zeta, Montenegro) - I2>I-Y3120
Kovačević (Mačva, western Serbia) - R1a>R-YP3987
Kovačević (Stari Vlah southwestern Serba) - I2-I-Y56203
Kovačević (Stara Hercegovna, western Montenegro) - I2>I-PH908
Kovačević (Mačva, western Serbia) - I2>I-PH908
Kovačević (Slavonia) - E>E-Z1057

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-A11380/

That’s a rare one

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 03:59 PM
my results should be typical for natives of Zagreb who are like endangered species today. we are living in the city for at least 5 generations, some lines longer than that.

Universe
12-28-2018, 04:00 PM
How much of your ancestry is slovene,czech and serb?
Where in croatia are your croat ancestors from?

Freeroostah
12-28-2018, 04:00 PM
Sexy results

Slavic-Sarmatian blood

Vlatko Vukovic
12-28-2018, 04:04 PM
Slavic-Sarmatian blood

Sarmatians among Slavs are pretty limited. Z93 not very common for Slavic speakers.

Bosniensis
12-28-2018, 04:05 PM
my results should be typical for natives of Zagreb who are like endangered species today. we are living in the city for at least 5 generations, some lines longer than that.

Now you know why people call Croats "Magyars" xD

Well all True Croats have exceptionally strong Hungarian and Slavic ancestry

Pribislav
12-28-2018, 04:06 PM
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-A11380/

That’s a rare one

East Goths?

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 04:11 PM
mdlp world
http://oi68.tinypic.com/2j3qm4p.jpg
http://oi68.tinypic.com/20pvqk8.jpg

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 04:14 PM
How much of your ancestry is slovene,czech and serb?
Where in croatia are your croat ancestors from?

father is fully slovenian except serb ancestor from 18th century, mother is croat. her maternal side lived in zagreb as far back i know, paternal side moved to croatia from northeastern bosnia few generations ago.
czech ancestry trough my mother is pretty distant, from 19th century.

father's family lives in croatia for long time though. there were always slovenes in zagreb, he isn't recent immigrant.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 04:20 PM
Now you know why people call Croats "Magyars" xD

Well all True Croats have exceptionally strong Hungarian and Slavic ancestry

i am pretty much central european which makes sense for my ancestry. but i'm sure there is more croat blood in hungarians than the opposite

Universe
12-28-2018, 04:22 PM
Well all True Croats have exceptionally strong Hungarian and Slavic ancestry

Wrong.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 05:41 PM
i tried morley using ISOGG tree and seems my subclade is R1b M405
http://oi67.tinypic.com/263h3qt.jpg

The principal Proto-Germanic branch of the Indo-European family tree is R1b-S21 (a.k.a. U106 or M405). This haplogroup is found at high concentrations in the Netherlands and north-west Germany.

how does that make sense ? was my paternal line cucked by some german dude in slovenia ? xD maybe that's why i don't score any balkan and i should

Mingle
12-28-2018, 06:08 PM
i tried morley using ISOGG tree and seems my subclade is R1b M405
http://oi67.tinypic.com/263h3qt.jpg

The principal Proto-Germanic branch of the Indo-European family tree is R1b-S21 (a.k.a. U106 or M405). This haplogroup is found at high concentrations in the Netherlands and north-west Germany.

how does that make sense ? was my paternal line cucked by some german dude in slovenia ? xD maybe that's why i don't score any balkan and i shouldIt might be from your Czech side (they also have some R1b).

R1b isn't unheard of in Croatia anyways.

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Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:10 PM
alright, somebody sugested me to upload DNA to wegene and i did. it gives me
http://oi64.tinypic.com/i6w5fs.jpg

R1b1a1a2a1a1 (R-U106)
This subclade is defined by the presence of the SNP U106, also known as S21 and M405.[7][49] It appears to represent over 25% of R1b in Europe.[7] In terms of percentage of total population, its epicenter is Friesland, where it makes up 44% of the population.[50] In terms of total population numbers, its epicenter is Central Europe, where it comprises 60% of R1 combined.[50]

so i am germanic branch for sure. but could somebody clarify that how did it end in balkans, tromeđa region ? if my line isn't cucked which could be possibility i'm afraid

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 06:10 PM
It might be from your Czech side (they also have some R1b).

R1b isn't unheard of in Croatia anyways.

Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk

His Y dna comes from his Serb paternal ancestor, it's a celtic branch tho, not the Albanian one found usually in Balkans. I looked it up and many speculate it's from the Normans infact.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:11 PM
His Y dna comes from his Serb paternal ancestor, it's a celtic branch tho, not the Albanian one found usually in Balkans. I looked it up and many speculate it's from the Normans infact.

seems it's germanic mate rather than celtic. but yeah it's from orthodox dude

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 06:16 PM
seems it's germanic mate rather than celtic. but yeah it's from orthodox dude

From what I'm reading, it is indeed mainly germanic, found in ancient germanic tribes, but it was also present within the Normans, it depends on the clade tho, you'd need to test further for more specific information and to track migrations. The Normans and Germanics both had a genetic impact within the Balkans.

Dacul
12-28-2018, 06:16 PM
No North Sea admixture, neither Scando admixture, so it seems your R1B is rather coming from the early Celts.

dosas
12-28-2018, 06:18 PM
If I run my wife's raw data in the extractor tool (I know she's a female so the result might be skewed) she also gets R1b1a2a1a. Keep in mind that her dad is 100% Irish. Make of that what you will.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:19 PM
No North Sea admixture, neither Scando admixture, so it seems your R1B is rather coming from the early Celts.

i get lot of north sea on eurogenes k15 actually

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:20 PM
If I run my wife's raw data in the extractor tool (I know she's a female so the result might be skewed) she also gets R1b1a2a1a. Keep in mind that her dad is 100% Irish. Make of that what you will.

wtf man ? females have no ydna

Bosniensis
12-28-2018, 06:22 PM
wtf man ? females have no ydna

That tool predicts Y-DNA by reading your Autosomal DNA

It predicts R1b on her sample probably because her father (that gave her DNA) is Irish so that does make sense.

It predicts! It's not detecting any in fact.

Dick
12-28-2018, 06:23 PM
alright, somebody sugested me to upload DNA to wegene and i did. it gives me
http://oi64.tinypic.com/i6w5fs.jpg

R1b1a1a2a1a1 (R-U106)
This subclade is defined by the presence of the SNP U106, also known as S21 and M405.[7][49] It appears to represent over 25% of R1b in Europe.[7] In terms of percentage of total population, its epicenter is Friesland, where it makes up 44% of the population.[50] In terms of total population numbers, its epicenter is Central Europe, where it comprises 60% of R1 combined.[50]

so i am germanic branch for sure. but could somebody clarify that how did it end in balkans, tromeđa region ? if my line isn't cucked which could be possibility i'm afraid

Interesting. Either that or it’s from Normans. Drobnjaci clan are I1-P109 though. Maybe Pribislav or the devils advocate would know better than I do.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:24 PM
That tool predicts Y-DNA by reading your Autosomal DNA

It predicts R1b on her sample probably because her father (that gave her DNA) is Irish so that does make sense.

It predicts! It's not detecting any in fact.

ah ok. but if two different tools predicted me same subclade i am pretty sure it's solid

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:25 PM
Interesting. Either that or it’s from Normans. Drobnjaci clan are I1-P109 though. Maybe Pribislav or the devils advocate would know better than I do.

yeah thanks for tip. you are germanic paternally too, where is your ancestry from ?

dosas
12-28-2018, 06:26 PM
These tools usually get the division right, but you need proper testing for subclade. So you may be R1b but not necessarily R1b1a2a1a.

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 06:26 PM
Interesting. Either that or it’s from Normans. Drobnjaci clan are I1-P109 though. Maybe Pribislav or the devils advocate would know better than I do.

I read a few sources which state his clade is from the Normans. Wouldn't surprise me. I can't see Balkan matches here, must be a rare egg.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-U106/

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 06:27 PM
These tools usually get the division right, but you need proper testing for subclade. So you may be R1b but not necessarily R1b1a2a1a.

Yup, I uploaded my ancestry and 23andme data to both wegene and morley, I got different subclades with both data on both websites, considering this is ancestrydata and not 23andme data, it may be incorrect.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:28 PM
These tools usually get the division right, but you need proper testing for subclade. So you may be R1b but not necessarily R1b1a2a1a.

i'll test it further, but pretty sure i am, otherwise wegene wouldn't show same as morley

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:29 PM
Yup, I uploaded my ancestry and 23andme data to both wegene and morley, I got different subclades with both data on both websites, considering this is ancestrydata and not 23andme data, it may be incorrect.

which worked better for you ?

Dick
12-28-2018, 06:30 PM
yeah thanks for tip. you are germanic paternally too, where is your ancestry from ?

Mine seems to be from Saxon miners

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 06:30 PM
i'll test it further, but pretty sure i am, otherwise wegene wouldn't show same as morley

I've uploaded my data to both these websites, Wegene and Morley both tell me I am dinaric North i2 with ancestrydata, but with 23andme data wegene and morley both tell me I am dinaric south i2, I haven't received my FTDNA test yet, but one of those results is obviously wrong, and I am predicting the ancestrydata is the one that's incorrect. You can't fully trust ancestry data when it comes to clades, only with the basic HG, you're defo r1b, but everything else is up in the air until you test further.

Mr.G
12-28-2018, 06:31 PM
yeah, i will for sure. would be nice to find out my exact subclade. funny enough i expected shit ton of balkan or jew because i am quite dark haired/skinned

This is the fascinating contradiction sometimes seen between results and phenotype. Having dark hair and complexion are not necessarily tied to your Med genes.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:32 PM
I've uploaded my data to both these websites, Wegene and Morley both tell me I am dinaric North i2 with ancestrydata, but with 23andme data wegene and morley both tell me I am dinaric south i2, I haven't received my FTDNA test yet, but one of those results is obviously wrong, and I am predicting the ancestrydata is the one that's incorrect. You can't fully trust ancestry data when it comes to clades, only with the basic HG, you're defo r1b, but everything else is up in the air until you test further.

yeah but difference between i2a dinaric north or south is like minute, it's practically the same subclade. r1b branches are pretty apart, i doubt i am celtic or balkan if it shows germanic one. will check it anyway xD

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:34 PM
This is the fascinating contradiction sometimes seen between results and phenotype. Having dark hair and complexion are not necessarily tied to your Med genes.

I can pass for jew bruv, young bob dylan could be my brother. damn never expected these kind of results due to my look by actually they make sense, i am mostly central european by blood.

Mr.G
12-28-2018, 06:40 PM
I can pass for jew bruv, young bob dylan could be my brother. damn never expected these kind of results due to my look by actually they make sense, i am mostly central european by blood.

You DO look like Bob Dylan, I agree :)

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:44 PM
K36 eurogenes similarity map
http://oi66.tinypic.com/28bzp5f.jpg

Voskos
12-28-2018, 06:46 PM
Your face looks a lot like a vlach friend of mine from south albania .He identifies as greek and is greek speakng.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-28-2018, 06:47 PM
Your face looks a lot like a vlach friend of mine from south albania .He identifies as greek and is greek speakng.

i am nothing like a vlach genetically though

Ayetooey
12-28-2018, 06:50 PM
i am nothing like a vlach genetically though

Indeed, you are closer to Britain and Sweden than Albania and Greece on that map.

frankhammer
12-28-2018, 06:54 PM
Welcome to the R1b horde.


I am R1b! thank god , i tought i will be L like another guy with my surname
R1b.jpg

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
12-29-2018, 09:16 AM
http://oi67.tinypic.com/2469qht.jpg

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?197107-Post-Eurogenes-k15-individualized-PCA-mapping-coordinates/page30

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
01-03-2019, 06:33 PM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2hftco1.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?187622-Post-your-DNA-Land-ancestry-composion-results&p=5705329&viewfull=1#post5705329

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-19-2019, 05:37 PM
On K36 geographic tool I get placed in South Moravia, close to Brno.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letonice

https://i.imgur.com/5ugPJ0w.png
https://i.imgur.com/FBUmf01.png

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-19-2019, 05:41 PM
Meanwhile, I got assigned to specific R1b subclade after taking Y37 test.

R1b (U106>Z2265>BY30097>Z381>Z301>L48>Z9>Z331>>Z330>Z326)

Closest matches from Slovakia, Poland and Ireland.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z326/

Teutone
02-19-2019, 05:55 PM
for 8 euro or something Lukas can give you interesting data with your k36

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-19-2019, 05:57 PM
for 8 euro or something Lukas can give you interesting data with your k36

Thanks bruv, I think I'll go for it.

Pribislav
02-19-2019, 06:06 PM
Meanwhile, I got assigned to specific R1b subclade after taking Y37 test.

R1b (U106>Z2265>BY30097>Z381>Z301>L48>Z9>Z331>>Z330>Z326)

Closest matches from Slovakia, Poland and Ireland.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z326/

Your y dna is more Germanic than Teutone's one.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-19-2019, 06:07 PM
Your y dna is more Germanic than Teutone's one.

What's his Ydna ?

Teutone
02-19-2019, 06:08 PM
Your y dna is more Germanic than Teutone's one.

I1 not germanic?

But I dont know much about YDNA

Pribislav
02-19-2019, 06:08 PM
What's his Ydna ?

I1

Pribislav
02-19-2019, 06:09 PM
I1 not germanic?

But I dont know much about YDNA

I1 is paleo-European and native Norse, germanized by R1b-U106 in distant past.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-19-2019, 06:11 PM
I1 is paleo-European and native Norse, germanized by R1b-U106.

You're trolling him right dude ? Both are considered Germanic afaik.
But yeah, I is Paleo-European, R is Indo-European.

Teutone
02-19-2019, 06:11 PM
I1 is paleo-European and native Norse, germanized by R1b-U106 in distant past.

Norse = Germanics?

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-19-2019, 06:12 PM
I1 not germanic?

But I dont know much about YDNA

It is lol. He just want to say original I-men were non IE speakers. That's where non-IE influence in Germanic dictionary comes from. Dick wrote about it, he's also I1.
Mostly Scandinavian haplogroup I would say.

Teutone
02-19-2019, 06:13 PM
It is lol. He just want to say original I-men were non IE speakers. That's where non-IE influence in Germanic dictionary comes from. Dick wrote about it, he's also I1.
Mostly Scandinavian haplogroup I would say.

YDNA a not so important gimmick anyway

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-19-2019, 06:14 PM
Here's a list of haplogroups considered Germanic, and their frequency across Europe

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/2a455fce-cd74-4375-9833-ba3072ef7b67/d8fztsi-2a9c8929-34f3-4751-946b-fd64d2a7d5b3.png/v1/fill/w_1150,h_695,q_70,strp/germanic_y_dna_combined_haplogroups_by_arminius187 1_d8fztsi-pre.jpg

Pribislav
02-19-2019, 06:14 PM
You're trolling him right dude ? Both are considered Germanic afaik.
But yeah, I is Paleo-European, R is Indo-European.

My point is that Germanic languages came from IE R1b-U106. Of course Germanic people in Roman time already were mix of R1b-U106, I1 and R1a-Z284.

Gründig
02-19-2019, 06:14 PM
Norse = Germanics?

Norse = gays brey

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-19-2019, 06:35 PM
My point is that Germanic languages came from IE R1b-U106. Of course Germanic people in Roman time already were mix of R1b-U106, I1 and R1a-Z284.

Yes, we wuz teh originals.

Morena
02-19-2019, 07:04 PM
Congrats on your score.

Not a Cop
02-19-2019, 07:10 PM
YDNA a not so important gimmick anyway

Is being male not important for you?

Teutone
02-19-2019, 07:18 PM
Is being male not important for you?

gender is a social construct

Leto
02-19-2019, 07:19 PM
gender is a social construct
Yes, and there is only one race - the human race!

Leto
02-19-2019, 07:22 PM
Your y dna is more Germanic than Teutone's one.
I1 is blonder xD

Lemgrant
02-19-2019, 07:27 PM
Yes, and there is only one race - the human race!

http://blog.byoh.in/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/family_wedding_idiva.gif

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-05-2019, 05:14 PM
http://oi66.tinypic.com/wufll0.jpg

http://oi64.tinypic.com/2cwpkef.jpg

pretty different compared to MyHeritage score

https://i.imgur.com/pu3qpwH.png

Did FTDNA transfer also, curious what I'll get.

Mingle
03-05-2019, 05:17 PM
pretty different compared to MyHeritage score

https://i.imgur.com/pu3qpwH.png

Don't they charge $30 for that?

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-05-2019, 05:18 PM
Don't they charge $30 for that?

Yes, they do.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-06-2019, 01:38 PM
FTDNA my Origins

https://i.imgur.com/TizPMuw.png
https://i.imgur.com/YqX5MX2.png

That's it, all these commercial companies are unreliable. I'll stick to gedmatch/nMonte and get full genome tested in the future and nothing more than that. :)
Maybe also mtDNA.