Lora Kitipova mega thread

[The Blade]

Thread combines elements of several kinds:
1) Classify her.
2) Place her. Where else in Europe, apart from Bulgaria obviously, does this volleyballer fit?
3) What would she be guessed as in the United States in terms of ancestry/ethnic mix?
4) Rate her.
5) Rank her best to worst fit out of these:
Spain
Portugal
Italy
Hungary
Romania
Serbia
Croatia
Greece
France
Slovenia
Austria
Turkey
Ireland
Norway
Iran
Lithuania

http://www.nbp.bg/nbp/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/lora-kitipova-01-19-15-267x280.jpg
http://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/gallery/HukuMAPKOB/LoraKitipova_03_facebook_com.jpg
http://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/gallery/HukuMAPKOB/LoraKitipova_DobrianaRabadzhieva_01.jpg
https://cevadmin.cev.eu/FTPFiles/Media/Objects/2366/Form04_3727_Original.jpg
http://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/gallery/news/Lora_Kitipova_2015_lap.bg.JPG
http://volley24.com/uploads/tx_mcvolley/KITIPOVA_Lora_1991_5_19.jpg
https://i49.vbox7.com/o/e16/e167f7fbce0.jpg
http://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/gallery/news/Lora_Kitipova_2016_lap.bg.jpg
https://www.novinite.bg/media/images/2016-09/photo_verybig_123336.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1RDEIPpv1Q4/UaSHh_bhGnI/AAAAAAAAQf4/928Ag-5Scg0/s1600/lora1+ok.jpg
http://bgsprint.com/pictures/pic_big/crop/n-14715.jpg
https://m5.netinfo.bg/media/images/32746/32746873/638-397-volejbol-shampionskaliga-vkmarica.jpg
http://sportvox.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/lora.jpg
http://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/crop/n-19171.jpg
http://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/crop/n-36155.jpg
http://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/crop/n-25299.jpg
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[Davy Jones's Locker]

She looks a bit like the Atlanto Mediterranean or Pontid morphs.

[The Blade]

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[Kivan]

1 - Mainly Atlanto-Med.
2 - Southern Europe in general. Could pass in Turkey and probably in Cyprus.
3 - Hard to say. Maybe some Latin American with Iberian ancestry or Italian-American.
4 - 8/10.

01 - Spain/Portugal/Italy
02 - Romania/Greece/Turkey(Aegean, Central-West, Black Sea and Thracian regions, i doubt she passes in Kurdish/Arab areas, for example)
03 - France
04 - Serbia/Croatia
05 - Hungary
06 - Slovenia/Austria
07 - Ireland
08 - Norway
09 - Lithuania
10 - Iran

[The Blade]

1 - Mainly Atlanto-Med.
2 - Southern Europe in general. Could pass in Turkey and probably in Cyprus.
3 - Hard to say. Maybe some Latin American with Iberian ancestry or Italian-American.
4 - 8/10.

01 - Spain/Portugal/Italy
02 - Romania/Greece/Turkey(Aegean, Central-West, Black Sea and Thracian regions, i doubt she passes in Kurdish/Arab areas, for example)
03 - France
04 - Serbia/Croatia
05 - Hungary
06 - Slovenia/Austria
07 - Ireland
08 - Norway
09 - Lithuania
10 - Iran
Thanks!

Pretty good observations in all aspects!

[Viridian1]

That will take as long as a test at school xD

Her type is hard to tell, kind of pontid/med but corded chin and turanid tendencies on her eyes.
She would pass in everywhere in southern Balkans to Romania.
She has kind of american look because of her mixed phenotype. I guess she could be consider as mediterranean/atlantid mix. I have no idea how the Americans consider her ancestry. Might be Italian.
5/10 - cute eyes and nose shape, ugly chin and looong face.
She fits from most to least: Romania, Greece, Turkey Croatia, Serbia, Hungary, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Iran, Slovenia, Austria, Lithuania, Ireland, Norway.

[meiliren]

She looks very Turkish to me.

Remind me this Turkish basketball player.

https://abload.de/img/10437401_929092163770q0fyb.jpg

Best fit in Bulgaria and Turkey.

[meiliren]

She is not Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Like as there are Hallstatt Nordic, Keltic Nordic, Corded Nodic, are different types Mediterranean race.

Atlanto-Mediterranean, Gracile-Mediterranean, Blue-eyed Atlanto-Mediterraneans, Mediterraneans from North Africa etc.

She is Mediterranean but obviously is not Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Compare with textbook Atlanto-Mediterraneans.

This type is very common in Iberia, Italia and British Isles.

http://actingmanagement.es/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Catalina-Amorós-2-copia.jpg
https://payload65.cargocollective.com/1/7/235696/3608518/patricia125.jpg

[The Blade]

She is not Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Like as there are Hallstatt Nordic, Keltic Nordic, Corded Nodic, are different types Mediterranean race.

Atlanto-Mediterranean, Gracile-Mediterranean, Blue-eyed Atlanto-Mediterraneans, Mediterraneans from North Africa etc.

She is Mediterranean but obviously is not Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Compare with textbook Atlanto-Mediterraneans.

This type is very common in Iberia, Italia and British Isles.

http://actingmanagement.es/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Catalina-Amorós-2-copia.jpg
https://payload65.cargocollective.com/1/7/235696/3608518/patricia125.jpg
Lol at Atlanto-Med being common throughout Britain. It's mainly found in Wales and is rare even there.
Also, if you believe blue-eyed Atlanto-Meds are different from ones with other eye colours, you are very off.
Coon only posted them to show Atlanto-Meds have variation in eye colour.
Saying a blue-eyed Atlanto-Med is a different type from a brown-eyed one is like saying a grey-eyed Hallstatt is a different type from a blue-eyed one.
You really need to start thinking more about the actual meaning authors invested in their descriptions instead of just quoting without understanding.

[The Blade]

She is not Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Like as there are Hallstatt Nordic, Keltic Nordic, Corded Nodic, are different types Mediterranean race.

Atlanto-Mediterranean, Gracile-Mediterranean, Blue-eyed Atlanto-Mediterraneans, Mediterraneans from North Africa etc.

She is Mediterranean but obviously is not Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Compare with textbook Atlanto-Mediterraneans.

This type is very common in Iberia, Italia and British Isles.

http://actingmanagement.es/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Catalina-Amorós-2-copia.jpg
https://payload65.cargocollective.com/1/7/235696/3608518/patricia125.jpg
Neither of these two females is Atlanto-Mediterranean.
First one is Tronder and second - Paleo Atlantid.

[meiliren]

Neither of these two females is Atlanto-Mediterranean.
First one is Tronder and second - Paleo Atlantid.

They both are Spanish and they was classified as Atlanto-Mediterranean.

This type is the main type among Spanish women.

[The Blade]

They both are Spanish and they was classified as Atlanto-Mediterranean.

This type is the main type among Spanish women.
Boy, when will you understand I don't care about your bias or what somebody classified someone as (in most cases)?
I have my opinion and I also have actual knowledge (probably less than 30% of people here have such).
They have been ''classified'' as Atlanto-Med by:
- biased people who believe it's the only type in Iberia
- others who believe in average looks too much while denying diversity
- ignorant people like you

[meiliren]

Another textbook Atlanto-Mediterraneans + some Alpine.


Compare them to the girl in OP.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/download/file.php?id=707803&sid=d67e0f9933452c0e7297490d1e7fab0e
https://barnafotopress.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/sin-tc3adtulo-3-copia-elena-3.jpg?w=1000

[meiliren]

From Coon.

Textbook Atlanto-Meds from Iberia.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe231.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe233.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe242.jpg

Textbook Med from Bulgaria.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe262.jpg

[The Blade]

Another textbook Atlanto-Mediterraneans + some Alpine.


Compare them to the girl in OP.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/download/file.php?id=707803&sid=d67e0f9933452c0e7297490d1e7fab0e
https://barnafotopress.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/sin-tc3adtulo-3-copia-elena-3.jpg?w=1000
That woman is far more Alpine than Mediterranean:
http://borialmanagement.com/BorialCore/media/pictures/Elena_De_Frutos/ElenaDeFrutos2.jpg
Besides, Kitipova doesn't need to be a copy of her to fit the Atlanto-Med bill.

[meiliren]

That woman is far more Alpine than Mediterranean:
http://borialmanagement.com/BorialCore/media/pictures/Elena_De_Frutos/ElenaDeFrutos2.jpg
Besides, Kitipova doesn't need to be a copy of her to fit the Atlanto-Med bill.

Yes this woman looks more like Atlanto-med.

But seems this type is very rare among Bulgraians.

[The Blade]

From Coon.

Textbook Atlanto-Meds from Iberia.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe231.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe233.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe242.jpg

Textbook Med from Bulgaria.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe262.jpg
1. You need to reduce the usage of the term ''textbook".
2. Kitipova is in terms of features more similar to the guys above than to the Pontic type.
3. However, here is what Coon said about the main types in Bulgaria:
"(a) a medium to tall-statured Atlanto-Mediterranean; (b) a partially blond Neo-Danubian, of typical snub-nosed form; (c) a Nordic; (d) a Dinaric, with the usual Alpine corollary; (e) a brachycephalic central Asiatic Turkish or Tatar form"

[The Blade]

Yes this woman looks more like Atlanto-med.

But seems this type is very rare among Bulgraians.
No, you don't understand a word I write. I said she's not a good example of Atlanto-Med at all - round and broad forehead and short nose, as well as her facial structure, are all Alpine traits.
Even if she was Atlanto looking, that wouldn't make it a must for Kitipova to look like a duplicate of her to possess the features and metric qualities of Atlanto-Mediterraneans.

[meiliren]

No, you don't understand a word I write. I said she's not a good example of Atlanto-Med at all - round and broad forehead and short nose, as well as her facial structure, are all Alpine traits.
Even if she was Atlanto looking, that wouldn't make it a must for Kitipova to look like a duplicate of her to possess the features and metric qualities of Atlanto-Mediterraneans.

No, I understand everything.

Seems that type in OP (with Turkic influence) is more common among Bulgarians


and more Western type like that woman is very rare and therefore you say that the girls in OP is true Atlanto-Mediterranean and that girl is not Atlanto-Mediterranean.

[The Blade]

No, I understand everything.

Seems that type in OP (with Turkic influence) is more common among Bulgarians


and more Western type like that woman is very rare and therefore you say that the girls in OP is true Atlanto-Mediterranean and that girl is not Atlanto-Mediterranean.
You really know nothing about this stuff.

[meiliren]

You really know nothing about this stuff.

Ok. :)

Classify this Slavic woman please.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?272647-Classify-this-Slavic-woman/page2&p=5696652#post5696652

[The Blade]

Ok. Here's my view:
1) Nowadays I wouldn't call her Pontid. Occiput is of Atlanto type and forehead isn't the high and broad Pontic one but the narrower and not as high typical for Atlanto-Meds (Turkish woman meiliren posted I recently saw in a thread and she is also Atlanto-Mediterranean). Kitipova's facial structure (especially lower part of face) also shows Trønder/Nordocromagnid admixture.
2) Apart from Bulgaria, I believe she fits in most areas of Southern and Western Europe. Extremely rare among East Slavs. Unpassable among Balts, Estonians and Finns.
3) In the US I imagine she could be guessed as Spanish/Portuguese/French American. Possibly as Italian-Irish mix, too.
4) I would give her an 8/10.
5) Ranking of states I listed in terms of how well passable her type mix is in them, in my opinion:
France/Croatia/Portugal
Spain/Slovenia/Romania
Hungary/Serbia
Austria/Greece
Italy
Turkey/Ireland
Norway
Iran

Lithuania was a provocative option. I don't think she fits there at all.

[The Blade]

Here's the thread of the Turkish basketballer with better pics:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?272507-Classify-Tu%26%23287%3B%E7e-Can%26%23305%3Btez
Atlanto-Med. Lol at Turanid.

[nightrider+]

3/10 and I would bet she's lesbian.

[The Blade]

I would bet she's lesbian.
This is her boyfriend Simeon Iliev, so no, she isn't:
https://m.netinfo.bg/media/images/32809/32809408/991-ratio-simeon-iliev.jpg
http://bgbasket.com/pictures/pic_big/gallery/sezon%202015_2016/Simeon_Iliev.jpg
http://bball.bg/media/uploads/zinnia/47355-63a1bea4aea93361190d1b08e97332ca.jpg.620x350_q85_c rop.jpg
https://bball.bg/media/uploads/zinnia/0fc4b72092b2c9f42467db30115a1fc6.jpg.620x350_q85_c rop.jpg
On the left:
http://bball.bg/media/uploads/zinnia/51553-ff07d4d7d6aa58595bcff1a596c1596a.jpg.620x350_q85_c rop.jpg

[Pribislav]

Pontid with some Turanid.

[Rotterdam]

She fits much better in Iran and Turkey than Ireland or Norway. I've never seen nor an Norwegian or Irish person like her, having been to both countries. On the other hand quite a few Iranians look European and could fit in Europe, I've seen a fair share.

Rating: 5.5/10, nothing special about her, a bit of a poorly developed jaw, small forehead and horrible teeth.

[TheMaestro]

4.5-5/10

[The Blade]

https://img2.sportal.bg/uploads/news/2020_33/images/00857793.jpg?1613027346
https://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/crop/n-146145.jpg
http://volleymaritza.bg/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Lora.jpg
https://www.sportal.bg/uploads/news/2019_01/images/00821057.jpg?1608968551
https://bgvolleyball.com/pictures/pic_big/crop/n-256172.jpg
https://volleymaritza.bg/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/LoraKitipova_01.jpg
http://img.sportal.bg/uploads/news/2020_01/org/00821415.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NYE53-8GsOU/maxresdefault.jpg

[Immanenz]

Ponto_Turanid, and a good example of it passes also basically only in Romania/Turkey/Bulgaria, perhabs Ukraine