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manu15151513
12-29-2018, 07:06 PM
Does the average IQ of the inhabitants of the Italian regions correlate with the number of alleles inherited from ancestral populations that have long been subjected to molecular evolution in warm environments?


Over the years, differences in the average IQ of the various peoples have been widely observed, and often its elevation does not coincide with what one would expect from the per capita GDP.



Studies conducted on identical and fraternal twins are a method for discerning the line of demarcation between genes environments, and is a method frequently used by behavioral genestists.

Growing studies show that the peculiar gene structure of individuals, on average, shapes the stramaggioranza of traits far more than the cultural environment.


In this superficial research I started from two disputable assumptions: the differences in the average IQ of the various peoples are essentially genetic and the higher the number of alleles inherited by peoples who have been subject to evolution in warm environments and the average IQ to be low.

However, I think that I did not assume that the elevations of certain ancestral components, the warm ones, with the average IQ and I do not deny that the average income, on a global scale, can have an influence, even if small.

If the correlation is extremely strong, however, it seems reasonable to me to believe in substantial causality.




A criticism of the heritability of IQ is that it is modulated by socioeconomic status (SES) – that IQ is less heritable in poor families. A large and extensive study co-authored by Robert Plomin reviewed the literature on the gene-SES interaction and conducted their own analysis of this phenomenon (with a sample of 8,716 twin pairs) and found no such effect. The heritability was constant across SES, but the shared environment vs. unique environment varied, this was done on children, not in adults, whose IQ reflects far more than children the genetic potential.

Here you will find the results of the invaluable tests of the students dating back to this specific year for high school.


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Over the years this pattern continues to follow, more or less remains unchanged.


The alleles that contribute to a good academic performance seem to be in large part the same responsible for a high IQ, so these two characteristics should overlap quite well.


The ancestral east med component of the various genetic computers of eurogenes is closely related to early Neolithic farmers, reaching more or less its peak in Cypriots and Lebanese.


According to the studies conducted by Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, the average IQ of the Cypriots amounts to 91, that of the Lebanese to 82.
According to the IMF estimate for 2017, the per capita GDP of Cyprus in US DOLLAR is 24.976, while that of the Lebanon is 11.408.

Ancestral components that I believe are related to a low average IQ in the eurogenes k13: East Med, Red Sea, Sub-Saharan, Amerindian, Oceanian, Northeast_African


Cyprian = 41.08 + 8.12 + 0.50 + 0.00 + 0.47 + 0.30 + 0.54 = 51.01


Lebanese average obtained by obtaining the average oracle eurogenes k13 = 59.74


Can 8.74% more single-nucleotide polymorphisms distinguishing hot ancestral groups be responsible for a lower average IQ of 9 points? Perhaps partially.


According to research conducted by the aforementioned people, the Egyptians have an average IQ of 81 points, the Saudi Arabs instead of 84 points.

The percentage, in percentage, of the ancestral components hypothetically responsible for a low iq in the Egyptian population is 76.89, while in Saudi Arabs, 83.3, a difference of 6.41.

The per capita Egyptian GDP is 2,501, that of Saudi Arabia is 21,120.

An abysmal difference, but with a miniscule difference in the average IQ, to the detriment of the Egyptians.

If what I say is true, the Egyptians should not have a slightly higher average IQ? Perhaps if they were in the context of Saudi arabia they would have a slightly higher iq, in line with the lesser presence of alleles distinguished ancestral groups that have evolved in warm environments.




Consider that more accurate measurements, carried out on adult samples, could lead to higher estimates of the Egyptians, and this would be in agreement with my hypothesis, and not with the per capita GDP



In the Czech Republic they have a per capita GDP almost identical to the Saudi one, yet an average difference of 14 points!

Some studies have reported a slightly higher IQ for the Egyptians, in line with my conjecture, despite the per capita GDP!


The University of Genoa, together with those of Pisa, L'Aquila and Bari, made this statistic, but it is 2009:

On a second level sample the presence of individuals from the south of Italy in the other regions

Piedmont 31% (Calabria 15% Basilicata 5%)
Lombardy 43% (Campania 19% Basilicata 8%)
Veneto 29% (Campania 13% Basilicata 4%)
FVG 21% (Puglia 11% Basilicata 4%)
E.Romagna 34% (Campania 18% Basilicata 6%)
Liguria 21% (Calabria 9% Puglia 2%)
Tuscany 18% (Sicily 9% Basilicata 4%)
Marche 35% (Puglia 10% Sicily 4%)
Umbria 25% (Sicily 11% Calabria 6%)
Abruzzo 41% (Puglia 18% Basilicata 2%)
Lazio 38% (Campania 22% Basilicata 3%)


https://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/iq-and-inbreeding-in-italy-inbreeding-coefficients-and-iq-scores.jpg

https://ilsizzi.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/tabella-medie.jpg

Average of the components causing a low average iq in the Italian regions of the south: 33.87 MOLISE 34.93 ABRUZZO 35.65 PUGLIA 36.01 BASILICATA 37.38 CAMPANIA 37.68 SICILY 41.01 CALABRIA.

The first two regions are those with the inhabitants with the lowest presence of the alleles typical of those components, and curiously they are also those of the south that excel in the tests invaded, and that perhaps have the highest average IQ!

The basilicata has on average more than Puglia, but the Lucanians tend to go better than the Apulian, how do you explain? Perhaps the averages are not really representative of the Lucanian population, considering the very few individuals who will be tested, and in reality have fewer alleles of these components of the average Puglia.

Or the results of the tests are not well representative of the average IQ in the case of the Basilicans, or in the basilica many people have been amalgamated with an average IQ higher than the Apulian despite the highest component.

It must be considered that the different genetic calculators give different results, so the Lucanian samples considered may have less of the Pugliese on average.

I believe all three are partially truthful.



I excluded Sardinia because I would have to use another computer and it would have complicated the work too much.



Average ancestral components in northern Italy:


20.16 TRENTINO 20.94 PIEDMONT VENETO 21 FRIULI VENEZIA GIULIA 22.89 LOMBARDY 23.06 25.47 liguria EMILIA ROMAGNA 27.295


Among those I have considered those that have the least amount of alleles are the autochthonous ones of the province of Trento, and they are also those that most excel in the tests invaded.

The Piedmont follows Trent, yet it has much worse results in the invaded tests, does not align with my hypothesis apparently. I hypothesize that the average IQ in piedmont is low due to the high quantity of southerners coming from Sicily and Calabria. In Friuli Venezia Giulia and Veneto there is a relatively low number of southerners, and they are in third and fourth place among the northern territories considered for the minor presence of alleles of those components. I hypothesize that if there were more autochthonous people in Piedmont, the results would be in line with those of northeastern Italy.

Those from Emilia Romagna and Liguria are the northern ones with the greatest number of alleles typical of the ancestral peoples represented by those components. In Liguria the amount of southern is quite low compared to other reasons, so the results should represent the Ligurians well, and in fact they are among the worst in northern Italy!




I forgot to consider val d'aosta, but you can do it quietly.

In val d'aosta it is full of southerners, so the results may not be representative.



In essence, the results seem to be quite consistent with the idea that the more those components are taller and the higher the average IQ rises, accurate measurements of the average IQ of true autochthonous could follow quite the amount of alleles typical of those ancestral groups.


My hypothesis seems to align with the data especially in the southern regions, where immigrants are few.


Consider that not all components could lower the average iq equally, and that components and factors not considered can affect the final result. Nevertheless, all this seems to me quite consistent with my conjecture.

Sikeliot
12-29-2018, 07:22 PM
Europeans would be living in caves if not for cultures from the Middle East influencing Greek and Roman cultures. 3 of the major world religions come from the Levant or Arabian Peninsula. Seems to me like having increased Near Eastern input is a source of pride.

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 07:26 PM
Europeans would be living in caves if not for cultures from the Middle East influencing Greek and Roman cultures. 3 of the major world religions come from the Levant or Arabian Peninsula. Seems to me like having increased Near Eastern input is a source of pride.

In the Near East many great civilizations were born, but were they developed by subjects genetically close to those who today populate those lands? Maybe not. Even if it were not, having an IQ low genotype in the right conditions does not prevent the development of civilization...

Cleitus
12-29-2018, 07:34 PM
In the Near East many great civilizations were born, but were they developed by subjects genetically close to those who today populate those lands? Maybe not. Even if it were not, having an IQ low genotype in the right conditions does not prevent the development of civilization...

Ashkenazi Jews have higher east med component than South Italians, and their average IQ is higher than the average IQ of any western European country.

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 07:37 PM
Ashkenazi Jews have higher east med component than South Italians, and their average IQ is higher than the average IQ of any western European country.

They could have simply been subjected to strong selective pressures. The peoples who at those selective pressures have not been subjected instead on the average could have it low. I think it's good to understand that the alleles responsible for the low iq could be frequently presented along with those specific ancestral components, but they are not those that define those ancestral components. Also in this forum is full of idiots who put human beings at the center of everything?

JohnSmith
12-29-2018, 07:39 PM
IQ I doubt is a good way of determining everything.

Cleitus
12-29-2018, 07:45 PM
They could have simply been subjected to strong selective pressures. The peoples who at those selective pressures have not been subjected instead on the average could have it low. I think it's good to understand that the alleles responsible for the low iq could be frequently presented along with those specific ancestral components, but they are not those that define those ancestral components. Also in this forum is full of idiots who put human beings at the center of everything?

They obviously were, but nonetheless your theory doesn't make any sense. The first city to have ever been constructed was build by Natufians. There are many more points which render your theory untenable.

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 07:49 PM
They obviously were, but nonetheless your theory doesn't make any sense. The first city to have ever been constructed was build by Natufians. There are many more points which render your theory untenable.

Based on what would you have reached this conclusion? You have to do some research and you will notice a myriad of correlations. What would they be? Say that. Then? To have a relatively low average genotypic IQ would prevent the development of organized civilizations?

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 07:51 PM
They obviously were, but nonetheless your theory doesn't make any sense. The first city to have ever been constructed was build by Natufians. There are many more points which render your theory untenable.

If it was obvious that they were because you exposed that statement?

Robocop
12-29-2018, 07:56 PM
So "I guess" Leonado Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Galileo, Dante, Petrarca etc etc... were all Hallstatt Nordids?

Jesus Christ...

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 07:58 PM
So "I guess" Leonado Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Galileo, Dante, Petrarca etc etc... were all Hallstatt Nordids?

Jesus Christ...

I have never tried to reach certain conclusions. Do you know the meaning of average? Do you have shit in your brain?

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 08:01 PM
It can't be true

Ancient Egyptians scored higher Red Sea than modern South Italians i think

Robocop
12-29-2018, 08:06 PM
I have never tried to reach certain conclusions. Do you know the meaning of average? Do you have shit in your brain?

Your brain is obviously shit when you implied with "average" in corelation with "lowered" (as average) "because" of Med and read sea input. Sorry, you just sounded there as a Nordicist for "a minute", a little bit...

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MintyFondGreatdane-small.gif

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 08:08 PM
I'm reading answers denoting incredible stupidity. Regardless of the single nucleotide polymorphisms that you have that define your autosomal mixture, you have unfortunately inherited too many catenti alleles.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 08:11 PM
I'm reading answers denoting incredible stupidity. Regardless of the single nucleotide polymorphisms that you have that define your autosomal mixture, you have unfortunately inherited too many catenti alleles.

How do you know every person who answers in this thread is South Italian?

Cleitus
12-29-2018, 08:14 PM
Based on what would you have reached this conclusion? You have to do some research and you will notice a myriad of correlations. What would they be? Say that. Then? To have a relatively low average genotypic IQ would prevent the development of organized civilizations?

Your conclusions are based on a test made in the 19 century by a German Psycholog. Intelligence is not a single unchangeable entity given to the individual. Also you might agree with me on the stance that there are different spectra of intelligence and that they in a sense might have developed differently within certain individuals and genetic groups but none the less are not unchangeable, because this wouldnt be in accordance with evolution and the fact of neuroplasticity. We are not victims of our environment.

Ajeje Brazorf
12-29-2018, 08:20 PM
https://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/iq-and-inbreeding-in-italy-inbreeding-coefficients-and-iq-scores.jpg

Very trustable sources indeed: Puglia "Arulia", Emilia "Romana". Only a fool could take Lynn's pseudoscience seriously, his claims are based on scholastic success of 15 years old boys, not even IQ tests.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 08:21 PM
Europeans would be living in caves if not for cultures from the Middle East influencing Greek and Roman cultures.

Perhabs world today would be a better place if majority of humans would have stayed in caves



3 of the major world religions come from the Levant or Arabian Peninsula.

Of the 3 major world religions only one came from the Arabian Peninsular.
Christianity came from Levant and Judaism from Mesopotamia



Seems to me like having increased Near Eastern input is a source of pride.

Having increased Near Eastern doesn't make you something special or superior compared to people with less imo
But its not a shame or a disease neither

Stefanos.tasidis
12-29-2018, 08:21 PM
The civilization came from Asia Minor, so if anything it increased the average IQ of Italy, receiving anyone from Anatolia.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 08:23 PM
The civilization came from Asia Minor,

The oldest monuments of a Agri culture based civilization have been discovered
in Goereme(Cappadocia) i think ,indeed





so if anything it increased the average IQ of Italy, receiving anyone from Anatolia.

Not anyone!

Anatolians of that time can not be compared to modern days people from Turkey

Most contributions to Science and Philsophy in Southern Italy came from the parts in South Italy where the
Greeks were dominant.

Phoenicians engaged mainly in trade and business,they were clever.
But i don't know of any work on maths,physics or philosophy in Ancient Sicily coming from
the Phoenician dominated places there.

Leto
12-29-2018, 08:53 PM
Europeans would be living in caves if not for cultures from the Middle East influencing Greek and Roman cultures. 3 of the major world religions come from the Levant or Arabian Peninsula. Seems to me like having increased Near Eastern input is a source of pride.
Yeah but over 90% of all inventions and scientific discoveries were made by Europeans just as virtually all of modern science. Not to mention that there's a reason there is very few places in the Middle East most of us would like to live in, especially you with your lifestyle.

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 08:58 PM
Your brain is obviously shit when you implied with "average" in corelation with "lowered" (as average) "because" of Med and read sea input. Sorry, you just sounded there as a Nordicist for "a minute", a little bit...

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MintyFondGreatdane-small.gif

I think that the statement you made a moment ago indicates your littleness. Can not you autonomously understand the concept of frequency disequuality? I will suffer more and more from people like you.

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 09:00 PM
Very trustable sources indeed: Puglia "Arulia", Emilia "Romana". Only a fool could take Lynn's pseudoscience seriously, his claims are based on scholastic success of 15 years old boys, not even IQ tests.

Unfortunately I found little on the internet about the average IQ of the people of the various places, and that little is basically produced by him.

Leto
12-29-2018, 09:02 PM
Isn't Southern Italy less developed than Northern? Are there significant IQ differences between Lombardia and Calabria? The average IQ in Italy is quite high, low IQ people like blacks would never create a Lamborghini or Ferrari, that's for sure. Maybe in a century or two but I sure won't see it.

Robocop
12-29-2018, 09:02 PM
I think that the statement you made a moment ago indicates your littleness. Can not you autonomously understand the concept of frequency disequuality? I will suffer more and more from people like you.

I am "suffering" from ppl like you since I joined this forum.

Do not make this an complex issue when it's really simple, truly it is simple, you just asked was italian average IQ lowered by increased EAST Med etc admix? Cannot be more stupid than that question, I think you just answered yourself.

Generalizing IQ and certain group of people like that is called stupidity, or... there is another word for that stupidity, better known as; nordicism.

I can just smell it on you, so STFU and go straight to the point.

Leto
12-29-2018, 09:05 PM
I am "suffering" from ppl like you since I joined this forum.

Do not make this complex an complex issue when it's really simple, truly it is simple, you just asked was italian average IQ lowered by increased EAST Med etc admix? Cannot be more stupid than that question, I think you just answered yourself.

Generalizing IQ and certain group of people like that is called stupidity, or... there is another for of word stupidity, better known as; nordicism.

I can just smell it on you, so STFU and go straight to the point.
Wait, as a European nationalist, wouldn't you agree that there are genetic differences and that some groups are certainly not as smart on average as others? I mean look at Africa or some parts of Asia. It's hell on Earth.

Sikeliot
12-29-2018, 09:06 PM
Much of the East Med in Calabria/Sicily is likely Phoenician.

Without the Phoenicians, Greeks wouldn't have been anything, and neither would the Romans.

Ajeje Brazorf
12-29-2018, 09:06 PM
Unfortunately I found little on the internet about the average IQ of the people of the various places, and that little is basically produced by him.

Which is not reliable. But dude, instead of posting this shit and wasting our time, since you are 15 don't you think it's better to hang out with friends or having fun?

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 09:12 PM
I am "suffering" from ppl like you since I joined this forum.

Do not make this an complex issue when it's really simple, truly it is simple, you just asked was italian average IQ lowered by increased EAST Med etc admix? Cannot be more stupid than that question, I think you just answered yourself.

Generalizing IQ and certain group of people like that is called stupidity, or... there is another word for that stupidity, better known as; nordicism.

I can just smell it on you, so STFU and go straight to the point.

I made a statement: the average IQ of Italians decreases with the increase of some ancestral components. The countrymen tend to share many alleles, so it is obvious that varies the frequency with which they present certain phenotypes in the various populations. I used the term average, and even if I had not used it it would have been implied for anyone with a culture superior to that of a caveman. The individuals you mentioned do not have many alleles that distinguish ancestral components related to early Neolithic farmers on many genetic computers. In some territories the average IQ is greater than the areas from which those individuals come, and therefore? They are outliers of areas in which the average IQ is relatively high.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 09:14 PM
Much of the East Med in Calabria/Sicily is likely Phoenician.

Without the Phoenicians, Greeks wouldn't have been anything, and neither would the Romans.

Without Phoencians nothing would be different realy

The cultures in the Middle East were Greeks traveled and which influenced their science and philosophy or which mattered to Greeks were Mesopotamians,Persians
and Egyptians

More so Egyptians than Mesopotamians

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 09:15 PM
Which is not reliable. But dude, instead of posting this shit and wasting our time, since you are 15 don't you think it's better to hang out with friends or having fun?

What shit are you talking about? My job is a shit being superficial and ephemeral. What could be better than discerning portions of intelligible realities that are closely related to a structure that significantly shapes my essence? I do not like in the slightest to cancel my specificities to attend certain people. I suffer terribly to interact with the adult users of the various social networks for the smallness that I feel, with my peers is much worse.

Robocop
12-29-2018, 09:16 PM
Wait, as a European nationalist, wouldn't you agree that there are genetic differences and that some groups are certainly not as smart on average as others? I mean look at Africa or some parts of Asia. It's hell on Earth.

I am PATRIOT not nationalist, that is a huge difference, at least to me, I never ever said anywhere that I am White Nationalist, I was always saying for myself that I am white patriot.

Some groups as groups are not smart as others, I agree, but I am also transparent person to say this: we can apply theory of relativity here so I would say to you this; I can find you on every 100 white people 1 black guy who is smarter than those 100 white people, just like I can find you 1 white guy who is smarter than 100 blacks.

Think about it, you know it's true. I think we should look at individuals here when we talk about high or low IQ and not go with some bullshit where we will place certain people in one basket and call them stupid, what is that saying about us exactly.

Because if we do that, there is name for that (ghosts from past): SUPERIOR AND INFERIOR, and I don't need that bullshit in my life and Europe do not need that bullshit EVER AGAIN, it costed us almost our entire race, that exact bullshit.

I DONT CARE if my race is superior or inferior to other, what I care about is that my race survive, respecting others and vice versa.

There is nothing else, no alternative to that.

You cannot look at black dude eyes and say to him that he is inferior in front of you, maybe you can, I think only non-human is able to do that, no offence. Nothing personal.

Leto
12-29-2018, 09:27 PM
I am PATRIOT not nationalist, that is a huge difference, at least to me, I never ever said anywhere that I am White Nationalist, I was always saying for myself that I am white patriot.

Some groups as groups are not smart as others, I agree, but I am also transparent person to say this: we can apply theory of relativity here so I would say to you this; I can find you on every 100 white people 1 black guy who is smarter than those 100 white people, just like I can find you 1 white guy who is marter than 100 blacks.

Think about it, you know it's true. I think we should look at individuals here when talk about high or low IQ and not go with some bullshit where we will place certain people in one basket and call them stupid, what is that saying about us exactly.

Because if we do that, there is name for that (ghosts from past): SUPERIOR AND INFERIOR, and I don't need that bullshit in my life and Europe do not need that bullshit EVER AGAIN, it costed us almost our entire race, that exact bullshit.

I dont CARE if my race is superior or inferior to other, what I care about is that my race survive, respecting others and vice versa.

There is nothing else, no alternative to that.

You cannot look at black dude eyes and say to him that he is inferior in front of you, maybe you can, I think only non-human is able to do that, no offence. Nothing personal.
Whoa, you're being too emotional. I was talking about averages. Who cares if some Nigerians are smarter than some Germans, the averages for these two populations are still different. Some people say race doesn't matter as long as people who are to coming to their country are smart. Going by this logic you can flood your countries with Han Chinese plus some Koreans, Japs, maybe Vietnamese and some high caste Indians aren't that bad either. Who cares they are different peoples with different cultures? They have a high IQ! I don't agree with this logic. But that doesn't mean we should be blind to obvious differences. You don't believe the refugees in Germany are gonna be as productive as the Germans, do you? No one denies they're human beings or that some of them are smarter than some Germans. Yet on average they're clearly not the same. I think different races and cultures are best suited for their environment. A Somali might be superior to a Swede in Somalia but not in Sweden.

Robocop
12-29-2018, 09:33 PM
Whoa, you're being too emotional. I was talking about averages. Who cares if some Nigerians are smarter than some Germans, the averages for these two populations are still different. Some people say race doesn't matter as long as people who are to coming to their country are smart. Going by this logic you can flood your countries with Han Chinese plus some Koreans, Japs, maybe Vietnamese and some high caste Indians aren't that bad either. Who cares they are different peoples with different cultures? They have a high IQ! I don't agree with this logic. But that doesn't mean we should be blind to obvious differences. You don't believe the refugees in Germany are gonna be as productive as the Germans, do you? No one denies they're human beings or that some of them are smarter than some Germans. Yet on average they're clearly not the same. I think different races and cultures are best suited for their environment. A Somali might be superior to a Swede in Somali but not in Sweden.

You went on totally another subject, I am against any immigration of somalis, arabs or martians to Europe, that's not even the point what I was talking about, I was talking in general that you cannot label anyone as inferior, if you would do exactly that if you would point the finger and say; there, they are less smart.

If you think Europe benefits from that, I respect your opinion but I dont it is.

I think true intelligence is that IF YOU ARE TRULY MORE INTELLIGENT than someone else, that you leave that group alone, and not trying to submit them in any way, why would one intelligent group of people try to submit to themselves less intelligent one? I dont see any logic in that, except humans stupidity at highest point.

If there are truly aliens out there flying above us, I repeat; IF, why do you think they didn't enslaved us already? Because why would they bother with apes? They just let us crawl around in our stupidity until we evolve more in some tens of thousands of years.

Cheers.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 09:39 PM
I made a statement: the average IQ of Italians decreases with the increase of some ancestral components.

The average IQ of anyone decreases with the increase of poverty and decrease of living standard and education.

If someone has to struggle to get his daily bread or come from a corner of the world where there is permanent war(like some parts of Middle East and Africa)
where he doesn't know if he will live the next day you can't expect him to have much attention and a clear mind to excel in IQ tests.

IQ tests are designed to measure the intelligence of people living in a particular social and cultural setting.
Mainly industrialized modern societies like those you find in North West Central Europe and East Asia

Thats also why mainly people from these parts of the world are good at it,collectivly speaking

Leto
12-29-2018, 09:43 PM
You went on totally another subject, I am against any immigration of somalis, arabs or martians to Europe, that's not even the point what I was talking about, I was talking in general that you cannot label anyone as inferior, if you would do exactly that if you would point the finger and say; there, they are less smart.

If you think Europe benefits from that, I respect your opinion but I dont it is.

I think true intelligence is that IF YOU ARE TRULY MORE INTELLIGENT than someone else, that you leave that group alone, and not trying to submit them in any way, why would one intelligent group of people try to submit to themselves less intelligent one? I dont see any logic in that, except humans stupidity at highest point.

If there are truly aliens out there flying above us, I repeat; IF, why do you think they didn't enslaved us already? Because why would they bother with apes? They just let us crawl around in our stupidity until we evolve more in some tens of thousands of years.

Cheers.
Look, if there are real differences between human population caused by tens of thousands of years of isolation and adaptation, then why can't we acknowledge them and work for a better world instead of repeating the equality mantra ('we're all the same, race doesn't exist')? My point is that if blacks are better off living in Africa in a tribal society, there is no point trying to fit them in Western society. What if they are just too different for that type of society? As a group obviously, not on an individual level.
The left has gone completely off the rails, they now deny the existence of biological sex, not just race.

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 09:46 PM
The average IQ of anyone decreases with the increase of poverty and decrease of living standard and education.

If someone has to struggle to get his daily bread or come from a corner of the world where there is permanent war(like some parts of Middle East and Africa)
where he doesn't know if he will live the next day you can't expect him to have much attention and a clear mind to excel in IQ tests.

IQ tests are designed to measure the intelligence of people living in a particular social and cultural setting.
Mainly industrialized modern societies like those you find in North West Central Europe and East Asia

Thats also why mainly people from these parts of the world are good at it,collectivly speaking

Usual superficial affirmations. I do not try to explain, it's useless.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 09:49 PM
Usual superficial affirmations. I do not try to explain, it's useless.

Its not an evidence of intelligent or mature people to post about IQ all the time
and link them to genetic haplogroups or ancestry

Ajeje Brazorf
12-29-2018, 10:03 PM
What shit are you talking about? My job is a shit being superficial and ephemeral. What could be better than discerning portions of intelligible realities that are closely related to a structure that significantly shapes my essence? I do not like in the slightest to cancel my specificities to attend certain people. I suffer terribly to interact with the adult users of the various social networks for the smallness that I feel, with my peers is much worse.

All right, but the last thing we need is a fellow countryman who trolls his own country by publishing a highly flawed study on a site like this which is already crawling with trolls. Is this clear?

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 10:07 PM
All right, but the last thing we need is a fellow countryman who trolls his own country by publishing a highly flawed study on a site like this which is already crawling with trolls. Is this clear?

It is not a study, do not consider it as such. almost certainly the differences are significantly due to genetics, it would be enough to inquire seriously to consider it plausible. Being surrounded by idiots will be my condemnation, but perhaps yours too.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 10:11 PM
It is not a study, do not consider it as such. almost certainly the differences are significantly due to genetics, it would be enough to inquire seriously to consider it plausible. Being surrounded by idiots will be my condemnation, but perhaps yours too.

Its because you are such brilliant and radiant enlightened spirit

You attract idiots like moths are attracted by the light

Ajeje Brazorf
12-29-2018, 10:19 PM
It is not a study, do not consider it as such. Almost certainly the conclusion is real, it would be enough to inquire seriously to consider it plausible. Being surrounded by idiots will be my condemnation, but perhaps yours too.

At most certain conclusions would stem from your personal complexes and problems. I'm sorry but you are the first idiot here if you really think that "the average Italian IQ is lowered with the increase of east med, red sea and west asian". This will be the last post of mine on this thread because it's really wasted time on here, and try to change your way of drawing attention, possibly not trolling on internet. Bye.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 10:21 PM
At most certain conclusions would stem from your personal complexes and problems. I'm sorry but you are the first idiot here if you really think that "the average Italian IQ is lowered with the increase of east med, red sea and west asian". This will be the last post of mine on this thread because it's really wasted time on here, and try to change your way of drawing attention, possibly not trolling on internet. Bye.

There has been a Greek member making a similar thread claiming that the social and cultural decline of Greece came from
Armenoid influence and that this influence was brought by Anatolian Greeks

catgeorge
12-29-2018, 10:21 PM
Greeks never conquered Western Europe because well nothing was there other than people with painted blue faces jumping up and down screaming ooga booga.

Clash of Civilizations was in the East as other areas was too far behind.

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 10:22 PM
Its because you are such brilliant and radiant enlightened spirit

You attract idiots like moths are attracted by the light

Who knows what idiotic and misleading ideas your brain will bring to your consciousness...

TeutonicBoyars
12-29-2018, 10:22 PM
Following this logic Finland has the highest IQ/test scores in Europe because of their minor Asian influence, because North/East Asian countries have the highest IQ averages in the world.

3 percent Finnish big-brained Aryan-Mongolic lord reporting in. Stay jealous of my high IQ, whitebois.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 10:24 PM
Greeks never conquered Western Europe because well nothing was there other than people with painted blue faces jumping up and down screaming ooga booga.

Clash of Civilizations was in the East as other areas was too far behind.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Blue_Man4_%28SP%29_2009_Brazil.JPG

manu15151513
12-29-2018, 10:24 PM
At most certain conclusions would stem from your personal complexes and problems. I'm sorry but you are the first idiot here if you really think that "the average Italian IQ is lowered with the increase of east med, red sea and west asian". This will be the last post of mine on this thread because it's really wasted time on here, and try to change your way of drawing attention, possibly not trolling on internet. Bye.

You are a stupid too ... Who knows what misleading ideas you have made... You are just disgusting people

Leto
12-29-2018, 10:26 PM
Following this logic Finland has the highest IQ/test scores in Europe because of their minor Asian influence, because North/East Asian countries have the highest IQ averages in the world.

3 percent Finnish big-brained Aryan-Mongolic lord reporting in. Stay jealous of my high IQ, whitebois.
Finns are over 90% North European and the lightest people in Europe.

Tauromachos
12-29-2018, 10:27 PM
Who knows what idiotic and misleading ideas your brain will bring to your consciousness...



Someone like you who does at least 10 different threads posting selfies and asking if he looks Mena influenced and then doing
a thread like this is not an evidence of a clever or solid personality

Sikeliot
12-29-2018, 10:46 PM
Closing this. It is a mess.