classify russian goddess Anne Vyalitsyna

[bamboozle]

thanks in advance

http://i68.tinypic.com/awdhy1.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/2v7xdn9.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/14n0evq.jpghttp://i67.tinypic.com/2ljql3a.jpg

[Dacul]

I do not agree she is a goddess, she seems mostly East Nordid and rather looks Germanic, than Slavic, but that is just my opinion.
EDIT:
On a second look, maybe she has some North Pontid also and looks between Germanic and Russia, rather Germanic, than Russian.

[meiliren]

I do not agree she is a goddess, she seems mostly East Nordid and rather looks Germanic, than Slavic, but that is just my opinion.

Because she is pure Nordic.

Pure Nordic is very rare among East Slavs.

[Hitch]

She seems mostly East Nordid and rather looks Germanic, than Slavic, but that is just my opinion.


Oh, so that's why my dad and friends told me I look like a German. Here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?270604-Do-I-look-typical-Serbian), I am classified as East Nordic too and a bit Dinarid, but I live in Serbia, lol.


By the way, I agree with Nordic.

[Knight Slayer]

Nordic.

[meiliren]

Oh, so that's why my dad and friends told me I look like a German. Here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?270604-Do-I-look-typical-Serbian), I am classified as East Nordic too and a bit Dinarid, but I live in Serbia, lol.

You doesn't look pure Nordic.

You rather Baltic-Nordic blend with Dinaric input.

[meiliren]

Nordic.

Hallstatt?

[Knight Slayer]

Hallstatt?

I think she looks more Corded based upon her jaw angle and her forehead height.

[Hitch]

You don't look pure Nordic.

You rather Baltic-Nordic blend with Dinaric input.

I know, it's very rare to be pure East Nordic in Western Serbia.

[Viridian1]

East nordid
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-eastnordic.htm

[Knight Slayer]

I know, it's very rare to be pure East Nordic in Western Serbia.

Hi. Just took a look at your pics. Your face has a remarkable femininity and softness too it characterized by a thinness as well. I think you're Halstatt Nordic + Minor Osteuropoid admixture (Neo-Danubian). It's a Deniker type. More info here:

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-neo.htm

Dinaric I don't see. You lack the sharpness and refinement of Dinaric nose and the Dinaric face breadth, as well as the brachycephaly.

[meiliren]

Oh, so that's why my dad and friends told me I look like a German. Here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?270604-Do-I-look-typical-Serbian), I am classified as East Nordic too and a bit Dinarid, but I live in Serbia, lol.


By the way, I agree with Nordic.

"East Nordic" is not pure Nordic.

"East Nordic" is rather Baltic-Nordic mix.

Coon about Germany.


To summarize the data on the physical anthropology of Germany it seems necessary to stress the relative absence of conventional Nordics comparable to those found in eastern Norway, in Sweden, and in England. Such Nordics may be seen almost everywhere in Germany as individuals, but nowhere as a large element in the population.

When someone here says(some TA members from Bulgaria and Romania) that 20-30% of population of their countries is pure Nordic it is very funny. Even in Germany pure Nordic are very rare.

[The Blade]

Vyalitsyna is a Tronder of Corded predominance.
A similar case is Swedish model Caroline Winberg:
http://cdn1.kingmagazine.se/YTo2OntzOjI6ImlkIjtpOjkzNTk0MTtzOjE6InciO2k6MzIwMD tzOjE6ImgiO2k6MzIwMDtzOjE6ImMiO2k6MDtzOjE6InMiO2k6 MDtzOjE6ImsiO3M6NDA6IjMzYzYzYzgzZGU4NTQzNjBiZTllZW U2YzdkMmM4ZTYwNzQzZDUyNTYiO30=
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Caroline+Winberg+Relativity+Media+World+Premiere+l IHBYE39iYFl.jpg
Vyalitsyna:
https://tribzap2it.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/anne-vyalitsyna-getty.jpg?w=500&h=550
https://articlebio.com/uploads/bio/2016/01/17/anne-vyalitsyna.jpg
Both are basically Corded-Faelid mix.

[Hitch]

Hi. Just took a look at your pics. Your face has a remarkable femininity and softness too it characterized by a thinness as well. I think you're Halstatt Nordic + Minor Osteuropoid admixture (Neo-Danubian). It's a Deniker type. More info here:

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-neo.htm

Dinaric I don't see. You lack the sharpness and refinement of Dinaric nose and the Dinaric face breadth, as well as the brachycephaly.

Thank you for the answer. I agree with you, I just got to say about that Neo-Danubian phenotype. Recently, I started a thread (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?272506-Classify-my-aunt) to classify my aunt (father's side) and one guy said Atlanto-Med + Neo-Danubian. So, maybe that explains that. I inherited my blue eyes from mother, face shape from my dad's and mom's ancestry (not their face and head shapes, they are both brachycephalic, dad is Alpine and mom is Dinaric), but I still look like them.

[Knight Slayer]

Thank you for the answer. I agree with you, I just got to say about that Neo-Danubian phenotype. Recently, I started a thread (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?272506-Classify-my-aunt) to classify my aunt (father's side) and one guy said Atlanto-Med + Neo-Danubian. So, maybe that explains that. I inherited my blue eyes from mother, face shape from my dad's and mom's ancestry (not their face and head shapes, they are both brachycephalic, dad is Alpine and mom is Dinaric), but I still look like them.

Looking at her pictures that guy is spot on in what he said. I would have said the same thing.

[The Blade]

"East Nordic" is not pure Nordic.

"East Nordic" is rather Baltic-Nordic mix.

Coon about Germany.



When someone here says(some TA members from Bulgaria and Romania) that 20-30% of population of their countries is pure Nordic it is very funny. Even in Germany pure Nordic are very rare.
You spammed the entire forum with your bullshit. My statement was about pure Nordids and Nordocromagnids combined.
Ixulescu was talking about Nordids, Norids and Baltids combined.
And what's that fetish of a half East Slav/half Gypo towards East Balkanites?
Nordid types are not rare in Germany at all. And if you include Nordids mixed with Alpines, Dinarids and CMs, you get a very large part of Germans. East Nordid as a term has been used as both synonym of Corded (which is the better term, since the type isn't at all found only in eastern regions of the continent but also in the west, and it shows its origins) and as Corded-CM-Baltid mix (equivalental with Coon's Aisto-Nordid/Baltic Tronder).
Get lost with your bullshit. There will come a point you'll get banned.

[Knight Slayer]

You spammed the entire forum with your bullshit. My statement was about pure Nordids and Nordocromagnids combined.
Ixulescu was talking about Nordids, Norids and Baltids combined.
And what's that fetish of a half East Slav/half Gypo towards East Balkanites?
Nordid types are not rare in Germany at all. And if you include Nordids mixed with Alpines, Dinarids and CMs, you get a very large part of Germans. East Nordid as a term has been used as both synonym of Corded (which is the better term, since the type isn't at all found only in eastern regions of the continent but also in the west, and it shows its origins) and as Corded-CM-Baltid mix (equivalental with Coon's Aisto-Nordid/Baltic Tronder).
Get lost with your bullshit. There will come a point you'll get banned.

I'm of the belief that Nordic is the foundation of Germany. With crosses of Nordic + Some other European phenotype being more common in certain areas than others. I do agree with you that East Nordid is a farcical term because the traits associated are not only found in Eastern Europe.

Thanks.

[meiliren]

You spammed the entire forum with your bullshit. My statement was about pure Nordids and Nordocromagnids combined.
Ixulescu was talking about Nordids, Norids and Baltids combined.
And what's that fetish of a half East Slav/half Gypo towards East Balkanites?
Nordid types are not rare in Germany at all. And if you include Nordids mixed with Alpines, Dinarids and CMs, you get a very large part of Germans. East Nordid as a term has been used as both synonym of Corded (which is the better term, since the type isn't at all found only in eastern regions of the continent but also in the west, and it shows its origins) and as Corded-CM-Baltid mix (equivalental with Coon's Aisto-Nordid/Baltic Tronder).
Get lost with your bullshit. There will come a point you'll get banned.

In Bulgaria there are not Nordics at all.

Delay with it.

You are Alpine-Dinaric-Med mix.

Read Coon.

[The Blade]

I'm of the belief that Nordic is the foundation of Germany. With crosses of Nordic + Some other European phenotype being more common in certain areas than others. I do agree with you that East Nordid is a farcical term because the traits associated are not only found in Eastern Europe.

Thanks.
Much appreciated.

[Knight Slayer]

Much appreciated.

No problem, you're welcome. You have my support in this dispute as our interpretation of the literature seems to coincide with one another.

[meiliren]

One TA member from Germany already told you the same thing.

Bulgarian "Faelids" and "Nordics" that you posted here are basically Baltics (Osteuropaoids).

[Knight Slayer]

One TA member from Germany already told you the same thing.

Bulgarian "Faelids" and "Nordics" that you posted here are basically Baltics (Osteuropaoids).

Coon writes:


The Bulgarians are a composite people, with the following racial elements easily discernible: (a) a medium to tall-statured Atlanto-Mediterranean; (b) a partially blond Neo-Danubian, of typical snub-nosed form; (c) a Nordic; (d) a Dinaric, with the usual Alpine corollary; (e) a brachycephalic central Asiatic Turkish or Tatar form. The basic element is the Atlanto-Mediterranean, which probably goes back to the Neolithic; the Neo-Danubian is probably of both Slavic and Ugrian introduction, although some of it may be older; the Nordic may be of several origins, including Thracian; the Dinaric is simply the result of Bulgarian admixture with local elements in Macedonia; the Turkic is found mostly in eastern Bulgaria, and then among townsmen and shepherds rather than among agriculturalists. Of these varied elements, the first two are the most important, and the first more than the second. The presence of a strongly entrenched Atlanto-Mediterranean population of Neolithic date in all of the lowland Balkans south and east of the Iron Gate is becoming increasingly evident. In Bulgaria it is geographically most concentrated along the southern ethnic periphery, and among Bulgarian colonies abroad, as in the Crimea.

Bulgaria is home to many different phenotypes, Nordic among them.

[The Blade]

In Bulgaria there are not Nordics at all.

Delay with it.

You are Alpine-Dinaric-Med mix.

Read Coon.
I have read him and other authors, you liar.
""The Bulgarians are a composite people, with the following racial elements easily discernible: (a) a medium to tall-statured Atlanto-Mediterranean; (b) a partially blond Neo-Danubian, of typical snub-nosed form; (c) a Nordic; (d) a Dinaric, with the usual Alpine corollary; (e) a brachycephalic central Asiatic Turkish or Tatar form"
You are not aware of things again. That was written by Coon himself. If we consider that other authors stated Dinaric is a separate type (not an Alpine-Med mix) which indeed makes a lot of sense, then it's even more true. And, as much as I respect Coon, he wasn't the alpha and omega of anything (meaning other authors also had something to say). I have as sources of Bulgarian types Coon, Lundman, Petar Boev, Stefan Vatev and many others. In terms of white people in general I have read more info than you probably ever will.
Go read Biasutti, Czekanowski, Von Eickstedt, Günther, Paudler, Lundborg, Grant, Deniker, Ripley (whose work Coon rewrote with some additions of his own). You don't know a thing.

[meiliren]

Coon writes:



Bulgaria is home to many different phenotypes, Nordic among them.

Not pure Nordics.

Mixed with Alpines, Dinarics and Meds.

[meiliren]

I have read him and other authors, you liar.
""The Bulgarians are a composite people, with the following racial elements easily discernible: (a) a medium to tall-statured Atlanto-Mediterranean; (b) a partially blond Neo-Danubian, of typical snub-nosed form; (c) a Nordic; (d) a Dinaric, with the usual Alpine corollary; (e) a brachycephalic central Asiatic Turkish or Tatar form"
You are not aware of things again. That was written by Coon himself. If we consider that other authors stated Dinaric is a separate type (not an Alpine-Med mix) which indeed makes a lot of sense, then it's even more true. And, as much as I respect, he wasn't the alpha and omega of anything (meaning other authors also had something to say). I have as sources of Bulgarian types Coon, Lundman, Petar Boev, Stefan Vatev and many others. In terms of white people in general I have read more info than you probably ever will.
Go read Biasutti, Czekanowski, Von Eickstedt, Günther, Paudler, Lundborg, Grant, Deniker, Ripley (whose work Coon rewrote with some additions of his own). You don't know a thing.

Average Bulgarian is Alpine-Dinaric-Med mix.

Not Nordic.

[Knight Slayer]

Not pure Nordics.

Mixed with Alpines, Dinarics and Meds.

You said for us to read Coon. We have, and we presented his own words where he posits Nordic is a part of Bulgaria and even speculates at the Thracian origin of the type.

Note how Coon says "easily discernible" meaning that Nordic should be apparent upon inspection of the Bulgarian people, if they are as mixed as you say with Alpine, Dinaric, and Mediterranean, it wouldn't be so easily discernible, would it?

And also, Coon isn't the only writer who contributed to the literature. There are many more.

[meiliren]

You said for us to read Coon. We have, and we presented his own words where he posits Nordic is a part of Bulgaria and even speculates at the Thracian origin of the type.

Note how Coon says "easily discernible" meaning that Nordic should be apparent upon inspection of the Bulgarian people, if they are as mixed as you say with Alpine, Dinaric, and Mediterranean, it wouldn't be so easily discernible, would it?

And also, Coon isn't the only writer who contributed to the literature. There are many more.

You can see Bulgarian crowd in Internet and Youtube.

Average Bulgarian is Alpine-Dinaric-Med mix.

[The Blade]

One TA member from Germany already told you the same thing.

Bulgarian "Faelids" and "Nordics" that you posted here are basically Baltics (Osteuropaoids).
Silver Lining was commenting something he didn't have much info about and he didn't argue my later claim (probably because he realized I've got a point posting this):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Racial_and_anthropological_types_in_Bulgaria.jpg
In red: Atlanto-Mediterranean
In blue: Northern types and Northern admixed ones (Nordids, Northern Cromagnids, Norids, Sub-Nordids, Nordo-Mediterranids, etc.)
In green: Pure Dinarids
In violet: Pontic Mediterranean
In yellow: Mongoloid influenced types (East Baltids, Turanids, etc.). They were said to be presented among Bulgarians of the Shopluk region, as well as among Bulgarian Turks from the Eastern Rhodope mountains and Dobrudja.
Source: Р. Boev. Die Rassentypen der Balkanhalbinsel und der Ostägäischen Inselwelt und deren Bedeutung für die Herkunft ihrer Bevölkerung. S., 1972
A more detailed explanation about Boev and other anthropologists of ours's works I gave here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ogy-of-Balkans
Also, just as an example of your bias, here are some Nordic Bulgarians you call Baltid:
Milena Nikolova
https://ezine.bg/files/lib/600x350/milenita1.jpg
http://senzacia.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Milenita-Milena-Nikolova-11.jpg
Silvia Stoycheva
http://i3.dir-i.net/CMS/2009/11/27/3a_31lnlr.jpg
Atanas Atanasov
https://www.cinefish.bg/data/actors_images/31/p_31140.jpg
You are willing to portray me as a nordicist but you will always fail because most people know I am a pretty grounded person, having posted on this forum for more than two and a half years.
I just dislike biased attitude with no argumentation.

[Ice]

She's average.

[The Blade]

You can see Bulgarian crowd in Internet and Youtube.

Average Bulgarian is Alpine-Dinaric-Med mix.
Again with the world of averages and underestimating diversity.
And Alpine is weaker than Nordic among Bulgarians even according to Carleton Coon.

[meiliren]

Again cherry-picked pictures.

Relax, everyone knows how real Bulgarians look.

[meiliren]

Not cherry-picked picture.

Bulgarian national football team.

I don't see Nordics at all.

Alpines, Dinarics and Meds.

http://lap.bg/public/upload/photos/40875/thumb600/84956-1cee62f8405b7a991ee5ad7389d0daca.jpg

[nittionia]

looks german to me

[pelikarski]

Again cherry-picked pictures.

Relax, everyone knows how real Bulgarians look.
:D :D
Like these real Bulgarians niko/you or whatever you mongrel shit sock is?

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01017/steel-worker_1017266i.jpg
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/workers-protest-in-sofia-bulgaria-on-27-october-2017-over-8000-in-picture-id867001456?k=6&m=867001456&s=612x612&w=0&h=JB4IhJ63LikPBUO6nu1byQT9RotftXiDYtbt4CI4PQw=
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/545d219be4b079130f42a75c/t/5512c24ee4b08edd00e98cc8/1427292788314/bulgarian_border_jh17.jpg

[StonyArabia]

Meh

[The Blade]

Not cherry-picked picture.

Bulgarian national football team.

I don't see Nordics at all.

Alpines, Dinarics and Meds.

http://lap.bg/public/upload/photos/40875/thumb600/84956-1cee62f8405b7a991ee5ad7389d0daca.jpg
Several Atlanto-Meds (whose existence in Bulgaria you also denied even when proved with anthropology info), a West Baltid/Balto-CM (Ivan Ivanov) and some Dinarids/Norids.

[meiliren]

Yes I can see only one guy is Baltic.

Can pass in Baltic states.

Others are Alpines, Dinarics and Meds.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-football-database/images/f/fd/Bulgaria-12-Kappa-home-kit-white-green-red-line-up.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170316231408

[pelikarski]

Yes I can see only one guy is Baltic.

Can pass in Baltic states.

Others are Alpines, Dinarics and Meds.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-football-database/images/f/fd/Bulgaria-12-Kappa-home-kit-white-green-red-line-up.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170316231408
Manolev has been classified as Atlanto-Med, he could pass as a Spaniard easily

[pelikarski]

Yes I can see only one guy is Baltic.

Can pass in Baltic states.

Others are Alpines, Dinarics and Meds.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-football-database/images/f/fd/Bulgaria-12-Kappa-home-kit-white-green-red-line-up.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170316231408

A recent photo in a normal lightening
https://img2.sportal.bg/uploads/galery/2018_09/bylgariq_norvegiq/images/IMG_2912.jpg

[meiliren]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Ivan_Ivanov_-_2011.jpg/220px-Ivan_Ivanov_-_2011.jpg

[meiliren]

West Baltid/Balto-CM (Ivan Ivanov)

Fake types.

He is Coon's (East) Baltic range.

http://topnews.in/sports/files/Ivan_Ivanov-Photo.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0f/94/ff/0f94ff49d098f70bc618deb0842a45c9.jpg

[The Blade]

My last post on this thread. Not willing to spam others' threads and I'm sick of confirmed banned trolls returning here.
Apricity mods should get rid of meiliren.
His idea of Bulgarians or, better said, his trolling agenda - local Gypsy people:
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~lempe20j/classweb/bulgaria_clip_image002.gif
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/2260628/84642374.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A56R1P/painet-ja0744-man-male-bulgaria-romas-karlova-photo-2004-europe-gypsy-A56R1P.jpg
Actual Bulgarians:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238821-Bulgarians-from-throughout-the-country-where-do-they-fit
More:
https://www.slavorum.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/528529_477664625588596_1260445165_n.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/7a/a6/fd7aa698b716c910c5f601c582b819a1.jpg
https://wjc-org-website.s3.amazonaws.com/production/news/image/67461/president_home_BulgarianPresShahar.jpg
http://www.planini.eu/planini/images/header_4.jpg
https://azvision.az/photos/2018/04/georgi-pervanovvv-1523719718.jpg
https://www.balcanicaucaso.org/var/obc/storage/images/aree/bulgaria/anziani-in-bulgaria-la-generazione-perduta-167744/1054838-10-eng-GB/Elderly-Bulgarians-the-lost-generation.jpg
http://boykoborissov.bg/sites/default/files/styles/extra_large__640x640_/public/_j2a3838_0.jpg?itok=szerbvf7
https://www.novinite.com/media/images/2013-09/photo_verybig_153914.jpg
https://www.iefimerida.gr/sites/default/files/640_dcc91c46e1c319127727a5bc97241f2a.jpg
https://www.slavorum.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/10614240_1518180715066286_7165299540004975913_n.jp g
https://novini.bg/statics/uploads/galleries_pictures/2016-51/big/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B0-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B0-%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B2%D1%87%D 0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8-%D1%81-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%BD%D 0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D 0%B8%D0%B5-40622.jpg
http://www.bnews.bg/uploads/images/6/473-138446_wide.jpg
https://haskovo.marica.bg/images/102/640_102327.jpeg
https://haskovo.marica.bg/images/219/640_219486.jpeg
http://poligraff.net/uploads/articles/big/IMG_4730.jpg
https://cache2.24chasa.bg/Images/Cache/986/Image_5952986_126.jpg
https://www.burgas.bg/uploads/df31d6590aee100c2f569609afa04970.jpg
Your trolling has evolved but not much. I have no hesitations you'll soon be banned.

[Efauyo Arias]

Aisto Nordid, Trønder, Dinarid and Alpinid.