Why do Australians seem to look different from Americans?

[Richmondbread]

I notice that Australians on average and Americans look different, but I can't put my finger on it, or why that is. Conversely, Americans and Canadians are almost indistinguishable. You would think there wouldn't be much difference. Australia, a penal colony, was settled roughly the same time as the States were. The Australians to me look a lot more Anglo/British. As if they were native to there. Or perhaps more Euro. Whereas Americans look apart from the Brits, even Americans with high Anglo ancestry, such as myself. Americans have a distinct look apart from Brits and Australians. Does anyone have any theories?

[CrazyDaisy]

Maybe the penal population looks different. I’ve been wondering about the same thing. I’ve noticed there’s more autists in Australia.

[Rouxinol]

Australians are mostly of unmixed British stock whereas Americans in general have intermixed more with other Northern Europeans and there are also very common combinations like Irish or British Islander in general + Italian. Hence why they look different.

[Knight Slayer]

Well if you look at a lot of Americans, they seem to be more Nordo-Mediterranean inspired, for instance Keltic-Nordic (Nordo-Mediterranean + Dinaric) and Sub-Atlanto-Mediterranean, also called Northwestern (Nordo-Mediterranean + Alpine) seem to be more common in North America than in Australia.

I've never been to Australia, but the people there seem to be significantly more Anglo-Saxon types, or Tronder types. There is a lot of Upper-Paleolithic looking people in Australia in my opinion especially Nordeby and Tronder types.

Edward Norton and Tom Cruise are good examples of Keltic-Nordic, while Alec Baldwin and John Travolta are good examples of the Northwestern type in my opinion. All 4 of the aforementioned men look to be mesocephalic, although Edward Norton is approaching dolichocephaly.

However I think that there is a healthy mix of both types in both Continents.

[meiliren]

Trønder is main type among White Australian women.

[Richmondbread]

Australians are mostly of unmixed British stock whereas Americans in general have intermixed more with other Northern Europeans and there are also very common combinations like Irish or British Islander in general + Italian. Hence why they look different.

Or simply, Americans have a lot more Germanic in the mix. I think there are very few Germans who settled in Australia.

[Richmondbread]

Maybe the penal population looks different. I’ve been wondering about the same thing. I’ve noticed there’s more autists in Australia.

I think more CM and Borreby amongst Australians.

Steve Erwin comes to mind as a prototypical middle class Aussie. I could not imagine passing as American typically. Even though he could.

https://media.mnn.com/assets/images/2017/06/steve-irwin-crocodile-01.jpg

This is a picture of his wife, and I knew right away she was American, and not Aussie, even before she opened her mouth

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/terri-steve-irwin.jpg?crop=0px%2C485px%2C2000px%2C1051px&resize=1200%2C630

[CordedWhelp]

Someone's probably touched upon this, but you have per capita more Germanic and other ancestries found among White Americans. Not to say this is utterly lacking in Australia, but it's certainly less. Australia has (again, per capita) more people of pure British Islands/Irish descent.

[Dacul]

Lol Richmondbread, are you trolling?
Because Australians are mostly British and Irish people, while Americans are mostly English,Irish,Scottish,German and Scando people.
Also, Americans have some Italian and Polish ancestry.
So Australia is more Keltic while the US is more Germanic.

[Westbrook]

I knew this is what you were hinting at. You have to let go of this obsession.
Or simply, Americans have a lot more Germanic in the mix. I think there are very few Germans who settled in Australia.

[Richmondbread]

I knew this is what you were hinting at. You have to let go of this obsession.

No, it's not an obsession. It's my theory. I know a lot more Germans are in the states, therefor it kind of colors our look. While, Australians are almost pure Anglo, perhaps some are Aboriginal mixed? I know they even had some Greeks in Australia. But don't you think that is the most plausible theory? The lack of Germans down under?

[Richmondbread]

Lol Richmondbread, are you trolling?
Because Australians are mostly British and Irish people, while Americans are mostly English,Irish,Scottish,German and Scando people.
Also, Americans have some Italian and Polish ancestry.
So Australia is more Keltic while the US is more Germanic.

I don't have any Italian or Polish ancestry. Most people in my neck of the woods don't either. We have Anglo ancestry with some Germanic, yet we still do not look like the Australians do.

[Richmondbread]

Someone's probably touched upon this, but you have per capita more Germanic and other ancestries found among White Americans. Not to say this is utterly lacking in Australia, but it's certainly less. Australia has (again, per capita) more people of pure British Islands/Irish descent.

:thumb001:

[Westbrook]

It colors our look?
No, it's not an obsession. It's my theory. I know a lot more Germans are in the states, therefor it kind of colors our look. While, Australians are almost pure Anglo, perhaps some are Aboriginal mixed? I know they even had some Greeks in Australia. But don't you think that is the most plausible theory? The lack of Germans down under?

[Lucas Rodrigues]

Because most Australians are Anglo descendants, whereas most Americans either are of German descent or mixed with people of German descent.
I think there are even more Latinos or people of Italian descent in the USA than Anglo descendants.

[Tooting Carmen]

(1) White Australians are rather less diverse in their origins than White Americans. (2) The US has been an independent country for much longer than Australia, so even (relatively) pure Anglos have had more time to develop their own phenotypes. (3) Even today, Australia has by some distance the most British nationals outside the UK - around 1 million in fact.

[Smeagol]

Because most Australians are Anglo descendants, whereas most Americans either are of German descent or mixed with people of German descent.
I think there are even more Latinos or people of Italian descent in the USA than Anglo descendants.

No, it's just that most people of Anglo descent just call themselves American. British is the most common ancestry among Americans and is overwhelmingly predominant in the South.

[Vojnik]

This is true. It's because Anglo Australians are more pure ethnically.

Hugh Jackman for example looks uber Aussie. Not American white.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNDExMzIzNjk3Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTE4NDU5OA@@._ V1_UX214_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

[Borealis]

Aside from lower British admixture, Americans do not take care of themselves. They are obese.

[Zroota]

This is true. It's because Anglo Australians are more pure ethnically.

Hugh Jackman for example looks uber Aussie. Not American white.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNDExMzIzNjk3Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTE4NDU5OA@@._ V1_UX214_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg
Hugh Jackman has a Greek grandparent though and you can kinda see it in his appearance. As such, I wouldn't say he's a representative of that "white Anglo-Australian". In my opinion, Sam Worthington has the look that I'd associate with so many Anglo-Celtic Australian men:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Sam_Worthington_4%2C_2013.jpg

And the women, her:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4563956-1x1-940x940.jpg

[Vojnik]

Hugh Jackman has a Greek grandparent though and you can kinda see it in his appearance. As such, I wouldn't say he's a representative of that "white Anglo-Australian". In my opinion, Sam Worthington has the look that I'd associate with so many Anglo-Celtic Australian men:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Sam_Worthington_4%2C_2013.jpg

And the women, her:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4563956-1x1-940x940.jpg

Yes good point. And them two do not look American white in my opinion.

[Zroota]

Yes good point. And them two do not look American white in my opinion.
They would definitely not pass as those 'standard' Euro-mixed white Americans we see in California, Illinois and New York, although I can see them passing in the southern states of America (Texas, Virginia, Oklahoma, Mississippi and the surrounds) pretty well. Lol

[Vojnik]

Steve Irwin could never be American white. Apart from phenotype, there's just got this whole vibe that differentiates Aussies from Yanks.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/80755/80755_v9_ba.jpg

[Zroota]

Steve Irwin could never be American white. Apart from phenotype, there's just got this whole vibe that differentiates Aussies from Yanks.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/80755/80755_v9_ba.jpg
Is he a natural blonde? And I thought his were hazel brown. Looks like they're rather blue, at least here in that pic.

Again, I could see those of the likes of him (including Schappel Corby and Sam Worthington) passing in the southern American states. In other words, give Irwin and Corby a Texan accent and I don't think they'll look out of place. But give them a New York or Californian accent, they'd definitely look odd. :p

In some way, Steve Irwin reminds me of Jack Black:
http://muz-lyrics.ru/photos/artists/4/14695/jack-black-4.jpg

[Borealis]

Steve Irwin could never be American white. Apart from phenotype, there's just got this whole vibe that differentiates Aussies from Yanks.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/80755/80755_v9_ba.jpg

Could he pass in England as a local though

[Vojnik]

Could he pass in England as a local though

Yes i think so.

[Vojnik]

Sean Hannity looks American white. Does not look Aussie.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/276962/276962_v9_bb.jpg

[Zroota]

Could he pass in England as a local though
Yes, but without that heavy tan. Lol

[Borealis]

This is Andrew Lincoln(Brit). Does he pass as American white? I think he does. After seeing him on the walking dead i was shocked he wasnt American.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Andrew_Lincoln_2012.jpg

[Vojnik]

^Yes!

[Knight Slayer]

Recently did a thread on this man below, Australian actor Richard Roxburgh.

http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w300/hN1bWQ0Qe0DrA33Ch6TLKuIWs0.jpg

This look is relatively rare in North America although occasionally it will be seen in more English/Scottish ancestry areas.

[Vojnik]

Even Macedonian Americans look different to Macedonian Australians. It must be the different hemispheres that does something.

[Knight Slayer]

Here's Keltic-Nordic American actor Tom Cruise. Nordo-Mediterranean + Dinaric.

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2000_Mission__Impossible_II/000MIT_Tom_Cruise_018.jpg

[Vojnik]

Macedonian American Billionaire, Mike Ilitch:

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/2017/02/10/ap-mike-ilitch.jpg?itok=g2UO9nhH

Macedonian Australian Football legend, Peter Daicos:

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/peter-daicos-of-the-collingwood-magpies-poses-for-a-feature-shoot-15-picture-id52754917?k=6&m=52754917&s=612x612&w=0&h=09cQu89Ff4oCbqzjfLufTbtqSRblR-jsJRwZuYw4rNY=


Just different vibes.

[Zroota]

Sean Hannity looks American white. Does not look Aussie.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/276962/276962_v9_bb.jpg
In Australia, they'll see Hannity as some sort of a European wog. Definitely not "Aussie-looking". Lol.

And that tan looks so fake. Probably a bronzer.

[Borealis]

Sean Hannity looks American white. Does not look Aussie.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/276962/276962_v9_bb.jpg

I don't know why but a lot of white Americans have this natural tan. I went to a very white school and some of the people were nearly as dark as myself and Im Indian. They werent mixed.

[Knight Slayer]

Here's the Northwestern type American Tom Brady. Nordo-Mediterranean + Alpine

https://starschanges.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Tom-Brady_9.jpg

[Vojnik]

I don't know why but a lot of white Americans have this natural tan. I went to a very white school and some of the people were nearly as dark as myself and Im Indian. They werent mixed.

Recessive native American genes?

[Vojnik]

Here's the Northwestern type American Tom Brady. Nordo-Mediterranean + Alpine



For some reason i can see him as Aussie.

[Knight Slayer]

Here Tom Brady's alpine admixture is seen in his occipital lobe.

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/styles/marquee_large_2x/public/videos/2157889318001_4421880019001_Tom-Brady-1280.jpg?itok=yH08p9Yy

[Borealis]

Here Tom Brady's alpine admixture is seen in his occipital lobe.

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/styles/marquee_large_2x/public/videos/2157889318001_4421880019001_Tom-Brady-1280.jpg?itok=yH08p9Yy

No offense but that sounded autistic as hell.

[Borealis]

Does the chainsmokers singer pass as Aussie/Brit?

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/andrew-taggart-of-the-chainsmokers-and-singer-halsey-attend-the-2016-picture-id533640896?s=612x612

[Knight Slayer]

No offense but that sounded autistic as hell.

None taken! :)

[Knight Slayer]

Take a look at Tom Brady's nose here, definitely had a nose job, definitely Alpine.

https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_460w/Boston/2011-2020/2015/05/12/BostonGlobe.com/Sports/Images/SerraHighSchoolTomBrady_DB015-2239.jpg

[Vojnik]

Does the chainsmokers singer pass as Aussie/Brit?

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/andrew-taggart-of-the-chainsmokers-and-singer-halsey-attend-the-2016-picture-id533640896?s=612x612


More Brit imo.

[Borealis]

None taken! :)

Lol, we all have those moments haha

[Knight Slayer]

Lol, we all have those moments haha

Yes we do my friend.

[Creoda]

Related thread
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?272310-For-Americans-do-the-cast-of-Hacksaw-Ridge-look-convincingly-American

[Peterski]

I don't have any Italian or Polish ancestry.

You have some Lithuanian though, which is similar to North-Eastern Polish.

[KMack]

Lol Richmondbread, are you trolling?
Because Australians are mostly British and Irish people, while Americans are mostly English,Irish,Scottish,German and Scando people.
Also, Americans have some Italian and Polish ancestry.
So Australia is more Keltic while the US is more Germanic.

He knows, he is looking for an excuse to talk about Germans.

[Kaloon]

Maybe the penal population looks different. I’ve been wondering about the same thing. I’ve noticed there’s more autists in Australia.

Ahh that explains why so many Australians look like serial killers.

[Peterski]

I think many German-Americans are fake Germans just like many Cherokee-Americans are fake Cherokees. It is all based on self-reporting after all and people have fantasy or identify with 1/16 of their heritage more than with the remaining 15/16 (which is probably "boring" Colonial British), etc.

If German ancestry is what makes Americans look different then Southerners should look like Australians:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?225202-Rebel-look-vs-Yankee-look

German ancestry by state:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/German_ancestry_in_the_USA_and_Canada.png/1280px-German_ancestry_in_the_USA_and_Canada.png

The South is Non-German:

https://www.worldbookonline.com/student/images/content_spotlight/civil_war/dividednation.gif

[Richmondbread]

Is he a natural blonde? And I thought his were hazel brown. Looks like they're rather blue, at least here in that pic.

Again, I could see those of the likes of him (including Schappel Corby and Sam Worthington) passing in the southern American states. In other words, give Irwin and Corby a Texan accent and I don't think they'll look out of place. But give them a New York or Californian accent, they'd definitely look odd. :p

In some way, Steve Irwin reminds me of Jack Black:
http://muz-lyrics.ru/photos/artists/4/14695/jack-black-4.jpg

No, he doesn't look like an American Southerner.

[Peterski]

Ahh that explains why so many Australians look like serial killers.

They were sent there for stealing bread etc., not for murders. Also I doubt that the majority of modern White Australians are descended from those early convicts.

[Richmondbread]

This is Andrew Lincoln(Brit). Does he pass as American white? I think he does. After seeing him on the walking dead i was shocked he wasnt American.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Andrew_Lincoln_2012.jpg

He could pass, but he still doesn't look all American. Americans and that "All American" look, really does seem to increase with Germanic hybrid.

[Richmondbread]

They were sent there for stealing bread etc., not for murders. Also I doubt that the majority of modern White Australians are descended from those early convicts.

They had some English convicts that went to the American colonies as well. They weren't specified as much. Then there were indentured servants. Surprisingly, most indentured servants came from well to do English families, but they were disenfranchised from the will , or ran on bad luck. I had one ancestor who was an indentured servant who came from an English noble family. He was kicked out of the family estate.

[Peterski]

Lots of Jews and Slavs in the USA claim German ancestry simply because their ancestors immigrated from the German Empire or the Austrian Empire before 1914 (both of which were multi-ethnic empires - for example what is now Western Ukraine, and inhabited by Slavic Ukrainians, was part of German-ruled Austrian Empire before 1914 - so I wouldn't be surprised if some Ukrainian-descended American claims being German on the census because his great-grandfather immigrated from Austrian Empire, and Austrians are ethnic Germans too).

Jews usually have German[ic]-sounding surnames, but plot genetically with Sicilians.

[Richmondbread]

Hugh Jackman has a Greek grandparent though and you can kinda see it in his appearance. As such, I wouldn't say he's a representative of that "white Anglo-Australian". In my opinion, Sam Worthington has the look that I'd associate with so many Anglo-Celtic Australian men:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Sam_Worthington_4%2C_2013.jpg

And the women, her:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4563956-1x1-940x940.jpg

The 2nd guy you posted could very well pass in the American South. In fact, I see quite a few types that look like him around my area.

This is an American Country singer from South Carolina. He still looks more All American than Australian.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH1Z9DEDqpk

[Peterski]

What about New Zealand?

[Richmondbread]

What about New Zealand?

They look different too, but more like Australians.

[frankhammer]

They look different too, but more like Australians.

:picard1:

[Creoda]

What about New Zealand?
New Zealand is more Scottish than Australia, Australia is more Irish than New Zealand.

[Crn Volk]

It's because of the Jew, African & Native American admixture in White Americans...

[ChildrenFromTheSun]

Sean Hannity looks American white. Does not look Aussie.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/276962/276962_v9_bb.jpg

He look like some sort of wax or plastic sculpture/replica... and does give off the vibe of having the physical appearance akin to a typical US politician, so I'll give you that too...

[Profileid]

Steve Irwin could never be American white.

That's a fucking stupid thing to say.

[frankhammer]

New Zealand is more Scottish than Australia, Australia is more Irish than New Zealand.

Have you statistics to back that statement up?

[Vojnik]

That's a fucking stupid thing to say.

Why? He just doesn't look American.

[frankhammer]

Why? He just doesn't look American.


He is an odd looking man in any "Anglo" nation

[Profileid]

Why? He just doesn't look American.

bullshit

[Peterski]

Have you statistics to back that statement up?

There are statistics about New Zealand? They even forget to place it on maps:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/05/all-the-maps-that-are-missing-new-zealand.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu3prkHtrrs

[Smeagol]

It's because of the Jew, African & Native American admixture in White Americans...

Doesn't exist in more than 5% of Americans according to 23andme and black is never present above trace levels even in the nearly 5% of American whites who have it.

[Creoda]

Have you statistics to back that statement up?
Presbyterianism in New Zealand - 10.7% (2006)
Presbyterianism in Australia - 3% (2006)

Catholicism in New Zealand - 13.5% (2006)
Catholicism in Australia - 25.8% (2006)

It's obvious anyway, in accent, placenames and frequency of surnames. I know Southern NZ is very Scottish, more than anywhere in Australia. Whereas Australia has always had a prominent Irish element.

[frankhammer]

Presbyterianism in New Zealand - 10.7% (2006)
Presbyterianism in Australia - 3% (2006)

Catholicism in New Zealand - 13.5% (2006)
Catholicism in Australia - 25.8% (2006)

It's obvious anyway, in accent, placenames and frequency of surnames. I know Southern NZ is very Scottish, more than anywhere in Australia. Whereas Australia has always had a prominent Irish element.

Okay, so the TA standard applied. Sweet FA of anything.

[Latinus]

Australia is more homogenous British Isles, the US has more German and other non-British elements.
There is the sterotype of blonde Australians, but I don't know if Australians are really blonder than Americans.

[Tauromachos]

bullshit

Profileid the swarthy little dwarf woman

[Creoda]

Okay, so the TA standard applied. Sweet FA of anything.
Prove me wrong smartarse. The number of people answering Scottish is higher than Irish in the New Zealand census, and the reverse in the Australian census.

[Vojnik]

The Irish have made a big presence in Australia. Entire towns have been inhabited by them and even founded by them in the past.

The town of Kilmore for example:


Kilmore was a stronghold of early Celtic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celt) settlers from Ireland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland), Scotland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) and Cornwall (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornwall), and remains a strong Celtic area to this day. In the mid-1850s Kilmore was the electorate of the Irish-born Premier of Victoria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_of_Victoria) (1857–59), John O'Shanassy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O%27Shanassy) (1818–83). O'Shanassy, an Irish Catholic, was the bane of the Protestant establishment in Melbourne and this also affected those who lived in Kilmore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilmore,_Victoria

John O'Shanassy:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Johnoshanassy.jpg

[frankhammer]

Prove me wrong smartarse. The number of people answering Scottish is higher than Irish in the New Zealand census, and the reverse in the Australian census.

No one unless a recent immigrant answers Irish, Scottish or English.

Immigration into NZ from around 1840 on is complex. It wasn't a popular destination due to lack of infrastructure, easily tamed land and violent natives. Most of NZs migrants were English with the rest fairly equally split between Scots and Irish but at different times.

[Westbrook]

I wonder when it will pass. My own grandparents actually immigrated from Germany and I'm not even close to being as interested in this topic as he is.
He knows, he is looking for an excuse to talk about Germans.

[Profileid]

I'm always looking for an excuse to talk about Meade

[Westbrook]

Now that's my fetish
Profileid the swarthy little dwarf woman

[oszkar07]

In terms of white people in both countries , I agree that American whites comparitively can be more admixed , eg Germanic and British, or Irish and Italian or some % part Latino or some % part Native American, also there are lot more people of Ashkenazi heritage in the States.
USA has a much bigger population and slightly older history compared to Australia so of course there can be more instances of these admixtures among white Americans. Its not as though we dont have admixed whites here in Australia , I myself am an example being half Hungarian and half British and of course there will be a lot of other admixed whites like me in Australia too but because America has much bigger population they will have more representation of Admixed whites.
I also believe that diet , climate and lifestyle are likely to be contributing factors.

[Dna8]

Americans have far more admixture, whereas Australians are of a more undiluted British stock.

[KMack]

I'm always looking for an excuse to talk about Meade

Reported. You will be banned hopefully.

[Borealis]

Reported. You will be banned hopefully.

Is that the user?

[KMack]

Is that the user?

He/she posted a photo of a member. Against the rules of TA

[Borealis]

He/she posted a photo of a member. Against the rules of TA

Oh

[Dna8]

I'd say both Australia and New Zealand are predominantly of English descent, and New Zealand's South Island does indeed have a significant (culturally without a doubt; proportionally, I'm not sure) Scottish heritage.

I couldn't say if Australia has a meaningfully more significant population of Irish descent or a contemporary society more meaningfully influenced by its Irish-Australians (the pop. difference between the two countries makes things more difficult).

[Creoda]

I'd say both Australia and New Zealand are predominantly of English descent, and New Zealand's South Island does indeed have a significant (culturally without a doubt; proportionally, I'm not sure) Scottish heritage.

I couldn't say if Australia has a meaningfully more significant population of Irish descent or a contemporary society more meaningfully influenced by its Irish-Australians (the pop. difference between the two countries makes things more difficult).
I didn't mean to imply there was a great difference between Australians & New Zealanders, if anything the opposite, obviously Scottish is one of the main components of Australian ancestry and the same for the Irish in New Zealand.

[Dna8]

I didn't mean to imply there was a great difference between Australians & New Zealanders, if anything the opposite, obviously Scottish is one of the main components of Australian ancestry and the same for the Irish in New Zealand.

+1

[Profileid]

He/she posted a photo of a member. Against the rules of TA


Oh

Meade has posted numerous photos of himself on this site, including videos with his full name where he refers to himself as a "public figure".

https://youtu.be/UplKquDz0MM

There's also a wikipedia article he wrote about himself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meade_Skelton_(singer)

So have fun getting me banned.

[Universe]

Steve Irwin could never be American white. Apart from phenotype, there's just got this whole vibe that differentiates Aussies from Yanks.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/80755/80755_v9_ba.jpg

This is just anthro-tardism. He could be American and no one would bat an eye.

White Americans are more diverse in appearance. So a White American not passing for White Aussie is much more likely than vice versa, but it shouldn't be to common as White Americans are mostly NW euro looking.

[StonyArabia]

Americans are more mixed. More pan-European well Australians are pred British

[Universe]

Sean Hannity looks American white. Does not look Aussie.

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/persons/276962/276962_v9_bb.jpg

Nonsense. All of his grandparents were Irish. Irish people can't pass in Australia now? White Australians have a lot of Irish ancestry.


This is Andrew Lincoln(Brit). Does he pass as American white? I think he does. After seeing him on the walking dead i was shocked he wasnt American.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Andrew_Lincoln_2012.jpg

Every White Australian passes as White American.

[Universe]

Even Macedonian Americans look different to Macedonian Australians. It must be the different hemispheres that does something.

No they do not.

[Universe]

Recently did a thread on this man below, Australian actor Richard Roxburgh.

http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w300/hN1bWQ0Qe0D..jpg

This look is relatively rare in North America alt

No it's not


Here's the Northwestern type American Tom Brady. Nordo-Mediterranean + Alpine

https://starschanges.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Tom-Brady_9.jpg

He's a quarter polish, so he's not a good example of a NW Euro mutt.

[Universe]

I think many German-Americans are fake Germans just like many Cherokee-Americans are fake Cherokees. It is all based on self-reporting after all and people have fantasy or identify with 1/16 of their heritage more than with the remaining 15/16 (which is probably "boring" Colonial British), etc.

If German ancestry is what makes Americans look different then Southerners should look like Australians:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?225202-Rebel-look-vs-Yankee-look

German ancestry by state:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/German_ancestry_in_the_USA_and_Canada.png/1280px-German_ancestry_in_the_USA_and_Canada.png

The South is Non-German:

https://www.worldbookonline.com/student/images/content_spotlight/civil_war/dividednation.gif

Number one ancestry among white Americans is British(especially english). This is easy to confirm when you look at statistics on demography, immigration records, etc.
German is a close second though. The US received more German immigrants than Brits but the British founder effect on early white Americans was very strong. 7 million Germans migrated to the USA. When most Germans arrived in the US in the 19th and 20th century, US already had tens of millions of White people who descended from pre 19th century British settlers.

In 1830, USA had a white population of 10 million, most of them of British extraction, after that period 7 million Germans settled there gradually. So how can German be the #1 ancestry in White Americans? Not to mention USA received further 4.9 million Brits in the post 1820 period.

German immigration peaked between 1880 and 1890, in that decade 1.5 million Germans arrived in the US. That sounds like a lot, but doesn't say much without putting it into perspective. In 1880 USA had a white population of 43 million with brit majority, so it wasn't THAT significant

It's because of the Jew, African & Native American admixture in White Americans...

DNA test results don't support this theory. Vast majority of white americans don't have any native or black admixutre, even the ones who do it's like 1-2%

Why? He just doesn't look American.

Yes he does

[Tauromachos]

Its because there is more Levantine influence in Australia

There live many diaspora Lebanese

[Richmondbread]

He/she posted a photo of a member. Against the rules of TA

I don't mind if she does this. These pictures are on the internet already.

[Richmondbread]

Nicole Kidman was born in Hawaii to Australian parents. She definitely looks like an Aussie lady. They do have a lot of beautiful women down there.

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/gettyimages-52240863.jpg

[Dacul]

Is logical that because Australia has a lot of sunshine and lowlands, compared to most of US (ok, not South of US, like California,Florida and Texas) even same genetics people are growing and looking different in US and different in Australia.
Already wrote this somewhere else, seems that higher elevation brings darker eyes while lower elevation brings more light eyes if you take people of same genetics and put them to live in / near the mountains or in / near the lowlands.
I think the diet of average European from the US is different from the diet of average Europeans from Australia, I know most European and African ancestry from the US are drinking lots of cow milk, when they are young.
No idea if the diet in Australia is same, think is hard to herd cows in Australia, because there are no good pastures, for cows.

[The Great Uniter]

Immigrations from Germany, duh. Most Americans are of Irish descent and German descent.

[Bogdan]

Australians are on average less mixed compared to Americans.

[Dacul]

Here some nice statistics about White Americans hair and eyes color:
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2008/12/nlsy-blogging-eye-and-hair-color-of.php
http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p413/jmalloynyc/HAIRBWH.png

http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p413/jmalloynyc/EYEBWH.png

[Mjolnir]

Australians are mostly of unmixed British stock whereas Americans in general have intermixed more with other Northern Europeans and there are also very common combinations like Irish or British Islander in general + Italian. Hence why they look different.

Bingo.

I saw pretty women in Melbourne. Very friendly, very outgoing people.

The Aussies are one of my favorite people’s - similar enough to us Americans yet distinctly unique.

Diet will also affect a person’s genotype to some degree.

Look at a third generation Chinese person - he/she will appear to have morphed in the direction of the new nation he/she lives in. Yeah, another topic but germane.




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[Mjolnir]

Trønder is main type among White Australian women.

I’m at work in a meeting I don’t need to be in but I cannot surf on my phone too much ([emoji38]) but what is “Tronder”. I’ve never heard the term used.

Thanks.


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[meiliren]

I’m at work in a meeting I don’t need to be in but I cannot surf on my phone too much ([emoji38]) but what is “Tronder”. I’ve never heard the term used.

Thanks.


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https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate32.htm
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?51755-Tronder-Examples

[Rgvgjhvv]

What about Alex O'Loughlin?

He plays an uber-American very well in Hawaii Five-0, but he is Australian

https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/upi/92931330742466/2012/1/09cc7b60464518608b0412d97757904a/Alex-OLoughlin-undergoing-treatment-for-pain-med-use.jpg

[Dacul]

I think Alex O'Loughlin looks at least a little Aussie.

[Vojnik]

Its because there is more Levantine influence in Australia

There live many diaspora Lebanese

Rediculous. Aussies have not mixed with Lebos. Lebos only came in the late 70's and 80's after the white Australia policy was abolished.

[Richmondbread]

Maybe Australians actually ape more modern British customs, including culture , manners, style of dress, and lingo. Whereas Americans long departed from those ways over Almost 250 years ago .

[Tooting Carmen]

Maybe Australians actually ape more modern British customs, including culture , manners, style of dress, and lingo. Whereas Americans long departed from those ways over Almost 250 years ago .

That's certainly part of it. Like I said, there are around 1 million British citizens living in Australia - 20-25% of all foreigners in the country. Both in relative and absolute numbers, the US has nothing like that.

[Richmondbread]

That's certainly part of it. Like I said, there are around 1 million British citizens living in Australia - 20-25% of all foreigners in the country. Both in relative and absolute numbers, the US has nothing like that.

So is the consensus that Americans , even with large Anglo heritage do not look British because of Germanic admixture?

[oszkar07]

Its because there is more Levantine influence in Australia

There live many diaspora Lebanese

It is true that you can in general see more people of Lebanese background in Sydney and Melbourne than you probably would in Los Angeles for example.
But as someone mentioned the Lebanese have not mixed that much with white Australians, the tendancy in most cases is that the Lebanese marry amongst their own especially the Muslim ones.
Australian cities like Sydney and Melbourne are very cosmopolitan like London,New York, and Los Angeles , for example walking down the main streets of the Sydney cbd you are likely to see more Asians and Indians than whites .
strictly in regards to the whites of USA and Australia to some point I agree with the OP , I feel there can be a subtle difference in looks between Australian whites and Americans. I do feel some people are exaggerating it in this thread , for eg I think Steve Irwin could pass easily in USA if he had an American accent. I do think diet and climate and environment somehow could have affected some differences in looks . When I travel to the USA , usually to California as my wifes parents live there. The main difference I notice about the US compared to Australia is the prominant Latino/Mexican and African American communities,these are not populations that are very concentrated or noticable in Australia, but we have practically every other nationality that the USA has. Also America has a lot more Ashkenazi phenotypes compared to Australia.

[Westbrook]

He looks like an ambiguous generic white guy
What about Alex O'Loughlin?

He plays an uber-American very well in Hawaii Five-0, but he is Australian

[Tooting Carmen]

So is the consensus that Americans , even with large Anglo heritage do not look British because of Germanic admixture?

Not just Germanic, but Italian, Greek, Jewish, Polish, Russian... I would say it is the Euro-muttness of Americans that makes them more distinct.

[Westbrook]

Third time I've heard about this Jewish mixture we all apparently have. Jews are like 2% of the population but apparently we were all Jewish at some point?
Not just Germanic, but Italian, Greek, Jewish, Polish, Russian... I would say it is the Euro-muttness of Americans that makes them more distinct.

[Tooting Carmen]

Third time I've heard about this Jewish mixture we all apparently have. Jews are like 2% of the population but apparently we were all Jewish at some point?

Maybe so, but they are prominent in all senses of the word in California, Florida and the Northeast in particular.

[Richmondbread]

Not just Germanic, but Italian, Greek, Jewish, Polish, Russian... I would say it is the Euro-muttness of Americans that makes them more distinct.

True. But not all Americans have all of that admixture yet still look different than Australians. For example, my own heritage, I don't have any Italian, Greek, Polish, Russian, or any real Jewish in me. Yet I still look All American and not Australian.

[Westbrook]

I love a good discount as much as the next person but I'm still not buying this
Maybe so, but they are prominent in all senses of the word in California, Florida and the Northeast in particular.

[Profileid]

True. But not all Americans have all of that admixture yet still look different than Australians. For example, my own heritage, I don't have any Italian, Greek, Polish, Russian, or any real Jewish in me. Yet I still look All American and not Australian.

you have real jewish

[Richmondbread]

you have real jewish

I'm a Southern Baptist, dear, and my grandparents were Lutherans, as were theirs, and not one Star of David to be found on any of their graves. So no, I am not a Jew.

[Profileid]

I'm a Southern Baptist, dear, and my grandparents were Lutherans, as were theirs, and not one Star of David to be found on any of their graves. So no, I am not a Jew.

how do you think your grandparents would feel knowing they created an obese welfare queen?

[RandomGuy20]

Or simply, Americans have a lot more Germanic in the mix. I think there are very few Germans who settled in Australia.

Just gave it a quick google, apparently Germans comprise the 'fifth most identified European ancestry in Australia behind English, Irish, Scottish and Italian' - 898,700 people in the 2011 census. Most German-Australians are apparently found in South Australia.

It is probably worth mentioning that my cousin's father is full (convict-era) English and both look stereotypically Aussie - neither him nor his father could pass as American in my opinion.

[Crn Volk]

Just gave it a quick google, apparently Germans comprise the 'fifth most identified European ancestry in Australia behind English, Irish, Scottish and Italian' - 898,700 people in the 2011 census. Most German-Australians are apparently found in South Australia.

It is probably worth mentioning that my cousin's father is full (convict-era) English and both look stereotypically Aussie - neither him nor his father could pass as American in my opinion.

Yeah in the Barossa Valley. They settled there and established the area as major winery region. Been there, very nice.

[Profileid]

australia seeems like a nice place. im thinking of going there to study.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Celtic_Australians 75% of Australians are ANGLO CELTIC

[catgeorge]

Climatization and diet.

[catgeorge]

australia seeems like a nice place. im thinking of going there to study.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Celtic_Australians 75% of Australians are ANGLO CELTIC

You should - I have not regretted it one iota.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I notice that Australians on average and Americans look different, but I can't put my finger on it, or why that is. Conversely, Americans and Canadians are almost indistinguishable. You would think there wouldn't be much difference. Australia, a penal colony, was settled roughly the same time as the States were. The Australians to me look a lot more Anglo/British. As if they were native to there. Or perhaps more Euro. Whereas Americans look apart from the Brits, even Americans with high Anglo ancestry, such as myself. Americans have a distinct look apart from Brits and Australians. Does anyone have any theories?

We have far more krauts than they do. The German influence is far stronger in the US than in Australia or Canada.

[Profileid]

You should - I have not regretted it one iota.

Good weather, amazing beaches, everyone speaks English.
Can't get better than that!

[Richmondbread]

how do you think your grandparents would feel knowing they created an obese welfare queen?

You call it obese, I call it Germanic build.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Good weather, amazing beaches, everyone speaks English.
Can't get better than that!

It's hot as fuck and everyone speaks silly English. Can you honestly take anyone with an Australian accent seriously? If you take an Englishman and hit him over the head with a baseball bat he would sound Australian.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

You call it obese, I call it Germanic build.

No, you're fat dude. You should stop singing and do some kick boxing or run every morning to 1980s inspirational music.

[Crn Volk]

It's hot as fuck and everyone speaks silly English. Can you honestly take anyone with an Australian accent seriously? If you take an Englishman and hit him over the head with a baseball bat he would sound Australian.

Typical ignorant American response. Australia is a continent and climate differs greatly from region to region. The Aussie accent sounds much better than American.

[Profileid]

You call it obese, I call it Germanic build.

First of all. German is not the same thing as Germanic.
Secondly, you're just a fatass with no self control. Something actual Christians frown upon

[Profileid]

It's hot as fuck and everyone speaks silly English. Can you honestly take anyone with an Australian accent seriously? If you take an Englishman and hit him over the head with a baseball bat he would sound Australian.

Yeah I'd rather live in NY or NJ where the weather is subzero half the year, everything is expensive and I can enjoy paying 1,000 a month to rent an apartment in a terrible area filled with dilapidated buildings and convenience stores.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Typical ignorant American response. Australia is a continent and climate differs greatly from region to region. The Aussie accent sounds much better than American.

No, it sounds retarded. You can automatically shave off 10 IQ points when someone has an Australian accent.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Yeah I'd rather live in NY or NJ where the weather is subzero half the year, everything is expensive and I can enjoy paying 1,000 a month to rent an apartment in a terrible area filled with dilapidated buildings and convenience stores.

It's been a warm winter. The benefits of global warming.

It's expensive cuz everyone wants to live in the NYC metro area. It would be dirt cheap if no one cared to live here.

[Crn Volk]

No, it sounds retarded. You can automatically shave off 10 IQ points when someone has an Australian accent.

USA FUCK YEAH!

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OddballHastyJabiru-size_restricted.gif

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

USA FUCK YEAH!

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OddballHastyJabiru-size_restricted.gif

Damn right. That woman has more power than all Australians combined. Her one vote can help determine the future of the globe. A vote in Australia means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Can you guys do anything about China expanding in the Pacific? That's all on the US' plate. Even Japan - who I don't believe is suppose to have a navy but does - is more relevant on the issue.

[Crn Volk]

Damn right. That woman has more power than all Australians combined. Her one vote can help determine the future of the globe. A vote in Australia means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Can you guys do anything about China expanding in the Pacific? That's all on the US' plate. Even Japan - who I don't believe is suppose to have a navy but does - is more relevant on the issue.

Scary

[arkas]

australia seeems like a nice place. im thinking of going there to study.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Celtic_Australians 75% of Australians are ANGLO CELTIC

Don't get your hopes up, there's plenty of non-Whites and non-Anglo Celtic people living down under.

http://imgur.com/ApntNlm.jpg
Top 36 ancestral groups of Australians ^

[Peterski]

Don't get your hopes up, there's plenty of non-Whites and non-Anglo Celtic people living down under.

http://imgur.com/ApntNlm.jpg
Top 36 ancestral groups of Australians ^

Only 144,179 Aborigines? Wikipedia says 759,705 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_Australians

[Knight Slayer]

There's so many Dark haired Nordics bustling about in this continent you couldn't even imagine. There's a lot more Germanic types here though which means more Alpine and more Dinaric. There are some Dolichocephalic Nordics here, but they are rarer than Nordo-Mediterranean mixes with the dark hair and the light eyes.

There's a ton of SE and NE pairings here as well as a ton of EE pairings in the form of Polish descended people that create this mixing effect.

But I think that the concept of the classic Nordic British Islander, the Anglo-Saxon warrior type, the look of a guy who you would have seen back in 1066 like Australian actor Richard Roxburgh, is 10x more common in Australia without a doubt in my honest opinion.

I'd bet money that if you went back in time to the Battle of Hastings, at least 2/3 of the Anglo-Saxons, possibly even more, would look like him.

He is getting up there in age, he is one of the best peaks we have into what those people look like, looking at him is like peering into the annals of English history. It's fascinating, really.

[arkas]

Only 144,179 Aborigines? Wikipedia says 759,705 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_Australians

That is so odd, not sure which is the real number, it might be that is the number for people of partial Aboriginal descent, we have people who are mostly European claiming to be Aboriginal Australians. I don't know...

[Peterski]

That is so odd

Here is Wikipedia's source: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3238.0.55.001

Maybe a lot of those 7,298,238 who declared "Australian" ancestry are also Aborigines.

[arkas]

Here is Wikipedia's source: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3238.0.55.001

Maybe a lot of those 7,298,238 who declared "Australian" ancestry are also Aborigines.


https://youtu.be/F269NJ0__L4
That is possible, some of them are probably these people^

[Crn Volk]

https://youtu.be/F269NJ0__L4
That is possible, some of them are probably these people^

Those who declare as Aboriginal are entitled to many benefits eg., quotas for education, jobs, health benefits etc. So there is a real incentive for these 1 percenters to declare their partial aboriginal ancestry. This has led to a surge in Aboriginal numbers in recent years. Full-blooded Aboriginals are tiny in number, if they exist at all.

[arkas]

Those who declare as Aboriginal are entitled to many benefits eg., quotas for education, jobs, health benefits etc. So there is a real incentive for these 1 percenters to declare there partial aboriginal ancestry. This has led to a surge in Aboriginal numbers in recent years. Full-blooded Aboriginals are tiny in number, if they exist at all.

All the one in the city are definately mixed from what I have seem, I am pretty sure there are pure ones in the Northern Territory though. Anyways, I don't think the benefits are the only reason they identify as Aboriginal but it is one reason, some of the White looking ones grew up in small towns or in communities on the out-skirts of cities, growing up around other Aboriginals or mixed race Aboriginals, it pushes them to identify with them.

[Richmondbread]

There is an upper crust Australian accent, particularly in Melboune, which sounds very educated and nice.

[Creoda]

There is an upper crust Australian accent, particularly in Melboune, which sounds very educated and nice.
You mean like these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw_usVHnDBc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loo9LESlmO4

[Profileid]

It would be dirt cheap if no one cared to live here.

You can say that about anywhere

[Anglojew]

True. Heath Ledger was pretty archetypal.

I've read it may be due to diet and accent as well as the regions in the UK & Europe immigration came from. I think the US was a lot of West Country and Scots while Australia was mainly north England.

[Universe]

Immigrations from Germany, duh. Most Americans are of Irish descent and German descent.

Wrong. British is #1 ancestry in White Americans

[Richmondbread]

Wrong. British is #1 ancestry in White Americans

German is actually the most claimed ancestry, under American.

[Richmondbread]

It does seem that Americans have wider set eyes , in general. The Australians tend to have closed set eyes. Perhaps that comes from some of their criminal ancestors.

[frankhammer]

It does seem that Americans have wider set eyes , in general. The Australians tend to have closed set eyes. Perhaps that comes from some of their criminal ancestors.
:lol00002:

[Westbrook]

Here's my question. How many of these white looking people would be trying so hard to identify with this alleged small part of their distant ancestry if there were no financial benefit involved? We have a lot of people in America who like to claim they're part "Native American" because they think it makes them sound more interesting or exotic, or because it absolves the feelings of white guilt that's been forced upon them their whole lives. They're not even trying to collect benefits most of the time, and in 9 out of 10 cases it's completely made up anyway.

https://youtu.be/F269NJ0__L4
That is possible, some of them are probably these people^

[Creoda]

German is actually the most claimed ancestry, under American.
American = British.

[TheAtlantean]

My great-great uncle Gordon Marquis immigrated from Liverpool, England to Liverpool, New South Wales and shortly after enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force and died of wounds received during the battle of Lone Pine in the Galipoli Campaign.

Here is his picture:

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He was 5'8'' and 10.1 stone in weight. That was fairly tall for an Australian of his day. The median height for ANZACs appears to be only about 5‘6“.

The average American solider was somewhat taller than the average ANZAC. My great-great uncle would have been roughly average height among American soldiers.

[oszkar07]

It's hot as fuck and everyone speaks silly English. Can you honestly take anyone with an Australian accent seriously? If you take an Englishman and hit him over the head with a baseball bat he would sound Australian.

Lol, this is kinda true, personally I think the New Zealand accent is worse.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

You can say that about anywhere

Then I'll respond instead with there is a high demand for living quarters in the NYC Metro area. There is CONSTANT (<<notice the emphasis on constant) construction of apartment buildings along the NJ side of the Hudson river. This is the place to be. Especially since NYC has become the gem of the US with its low crime rate, cultural activities, cleanliness, and its importance as the financial center of the country. You come across people from all over the country here.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Lol, this is kinda true, personally I think the New Zealand accent is worse.

I can't tell the difference but I do like what I see of New Zealand. Alcoholism also seems to be less of a problem in NZ than Australia. I don't like drunks.

[Creoda]

Lol, this is kinda true, personally I think the New Zealand accent is worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrWcQfcviqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XImxsBMtWY

[lonewolfcypriot]

Australians tend to be mostly British stock whilst American Whites are pan European and Jewish.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Everyone should sound like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1VymO1JP8

"Hey youse guys... watcha doin'?"

"Gonna play us some stick ball."

[oszkar07]

I can't tell the difference but I do like what I see of New Zealand. Alcoholism also seems to be less of a problem in NZ than Australia. I don't like drunks.

Many New Zealander 's choose to live in Australia. NZ is a physically beautiful country but otherwise not much to offer in cultural
richness.
NZ has a big Polynesian population Maori's and Samoans, in certain regions it has reputation for violence due to gangs.
Not really sure there is much difference with alcohol consumption , its just Australia has bigger population.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk5A0HdTwCo

[The Great Uniter]

Wrong. British is #1 ancestry in White Americans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Americans

Irish Americans are roughly estimated to be 45 million (in 2013 were birth rates were lower). Americans with any "Scots-Irish: ancestry are numbered around 27-30 million.

English Americans are approximately 23 million. Technically Scottish Americans aren't taken as "British" in my book but they are roughly 20–25 million.

Now... German Americans are literally estimated to be 44 million...

And the number of Welsh Americans is needless to state, truly insignificant in comparison. Rougly 1~million. Dutch Americans are WAY up the ladder, they are 4~million and Italian Americans are 17 million from the 2013 census!

No, you're right that you are definitely wrong and good for announcing it that.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I wonder how close the character Bill the Butcher's accent is to 19th century NYC. I know Scorcese is a stickler for authenticity and I hear much of modern day NYC accents in it (even the whiny Staten Island accent).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrkw1UgX3q0

[The Great Uniter]

Technically you're a retard.

I see that ban coming for ya. No, actually, my lil' brat, the only one retard is the one who responded me and doesn't know how to read.

[Richmondbread]

Here's my question. How many of these white looking people would be trying so hard to identify with this alleged small part of their distant ancestry if there were no financial benefit involved? We have a lot of people in America who like to claim they're part "Native American" because they think it makes them sound more interesting or exotic, or because it absolves the feelings of white guilt that's been forced upon them their whole lives. They're not even trying to collect benefits most of the time, and in 9 out of 10 cases it's completely made up anyway.

That's not it at all. Anyone who comes from early American settlers has a very high chance of having at least some Native American ancestry. And almost always a female ancestor. Reason being is that there were few people around to marry So you either married your cousin or some Indian girl.

[Ayetooey]

They're upside down the poor bastards.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

That's not it at all. Anyone who comes from early American settlers has a very high chance of having at least some Native American ancestry. And almost always a female ancestor. Reason being is that there were few people around to marry So you either married your cousin or some Indian girl.

You so badly want to be an injun. You're more likely to have a very distant SSA ancestor than an Amerindian ancestor if you have ancestors from Virginia, Louisiana, or South Carolina. People try to pass off SSA ancestry as Amerindian like the Melungeons did considering Amerindian ancestry was more socially acceptable than SSA ancestry.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

They're upside down the poor bastards.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81FGVh1dj0A

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

As a peace offering to Crn Volk here is a clip of a Macedonian-Australian beating Chad Mendes last Saturday.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VuDwJFVHaQ

[nittionia]

Aussies have more flamboyant haircuts

[Richmondbread]

You so badly want to be an injun. You're more likely to have a very distant SSA ancestor than an Amerindian ancestor if you have ancestors from Virginia, Louisiana, or South Carolina. People try to pass off SSA ancestry as Amerindian like the Melungeons did considering Amerindian ancestry was more socially acceptable than SSA ancestry.

Horsepucky! I have documented NA in my family tree:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcgugeq0-fg

[Ayetooey]

Horsepucky! I have documented NA in my family tree:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcgugeq0-fg

Her "son" that is your ancestor doesn't exist in any historical records. All searches go back to that dodgy "cousin" of yours.

[Richmondbread]

Her "son" that is your ancestor doesn't exist in any historical records. All searches go back to that dodgy "cousin" of yours.

It's not a son. It's a daughter named Kaokee.

[Ayetooey]

It's not a son. It's a daughter named Kaokee.

Kaokee never existed, there's no historical records, and every website which talks about this Kaokee has your "cousins" name on it. One website uses ancestrydna as "evidence" and when I checked ancestrydna, it just has a vague tree with 0 historical documents or proof.

[Richmondbread]

Kaokee never existed, there's no historical records, and every website which talks about this Kaokee has your "cousins" name on it.

She did exist in tribal records and she married Colonel Thomas Pettus. Otherwise there is no one we can descend from on that line.

[frankhammer]

Lol, this is kinda true, personally I think the New Zealand accent is worse.

There is an accent in both nations that have these characteristics. It makes you cringe whenever these people speak. Nu zilind :picard1:

[Ayetooey]

EVERY single page, straight back to Meades cousin Bill. No documentation exists.

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/278745/help-okee-powhatan-pettus-pocahontas-project-collab-profile

[Ayetooey]

She did exist in tribal records and she married Colonel Thomas Pettus. Otherwise there is no one we can descend from on that line.

No she didn't, every page goes back to your cousin, every single page, I have seen no documented evidence she ever existed.

[Ayetooey]

"
Best answer
The Pocahontas story can be very inflammatory. The story of her supposed Indian child even more so, so buyer beware. There is no documentary evidence to support an Indian child. There are two competing histories as follows:

1. Dan Custalow of the Mattaponi Tribe wrote that according to 'sacred oral history' Pocahontas had a son with her first husband Kocoum. He was called Little Kocoum. He was taken in by his Aunts and raised to adulthood.

2. Bill Deyo of the Patawomeck Tribe writes that Pocahontas has a daughter named Ka Okee. She married a Pettus and had descendants.

Now, which one is right? Where does sacred oral history fit into a genealogy profile. If you believe that it carries the same weight as contemporary evidence that you must also acknowledge that Pocahontas was raped by multiple white men and only after she gave birth to a son did she marry John Rolfe. According to Mattiponi sacred history Thomas Rolfe was not the son of John Rolfe. "

[Richmondbread]

No she didn't, every page goes back to your cousin, every single page, I have seen no documented evidence she ever existed.

He is a member of the tribe, and it's also agreed with tribal council members. You are just being obstinate.

[frankhammer]

He is a member of the tribe, and it's also agreed with tribal council members. You are just being obstinate.

Jesus, enough is enough. You are posting in the wrong thread you wide-eyed mongol.

[Westbrook]

I believe you believe this.
That's not it at all. Anyone who comes from early American settlers has a very high chance of having at least some Native American ancestry. And almost always a female ancestor. Reason being is that there were few people around to marry So you either married your cousin or some Indian girl.

[Dna8]

I can't tell the difference but I do like what I see of New Zealand. Alcoholism also seems to be less of a problem in NZ than Australia. I don't like drunks.

The difference between the two might be hard for outsiders to identify easily, but it is there. I've lived in NZ for a very long time and I can hear the Kiwi accent from a mile away..

For those of us living in New Zealand it is also pretty easy to differentiate between North and South Islanders from how they speak. South Islanders, for instance, tend to roll their r's..

[Dna8]

@ Colonel Frank Grimes

I noticed you mention that you don't like drunks.. Unfortunately, NZ has a big binge drinking culture..

[frankhammer]

@ Colonel Frank Grimes

I noticed you mention that you don't like drunks.. Unfortunately, NZ has a big binge drinking culture..

Indeed it does. Every single fight I've been in has been initiated by pissed idiots.

I have noticed amongst my sons generation and this may also be location (Auckland), education and reasonable parenting, a marked difference from other generations. Almost all rarely drink and never to excess.

[Universe]

German is actually the most claimed ancestry, under American.

Because German ancestry is overreported and can't be the number #1 ancestry. USA simply didn't receive enough German immigration to cancel out the Brtitish (especially English ) founder effect. Read this post: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273015-Why-do-Australians-seem-to-look-different-from-Americans&p=5705345&viewfull=1#post5705345

[Universe]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Americans

Irish Americans are roughly estimated to be 45 million (in 2013 were birth rates were lower). Americans with any "Scots-Irish: ancestry are numbered around 27-30 million.

English Americans are approximately 23 million. Technically Scottish Americans aren't taken as "British" in my book but they are roughly 20–25 million.

Now... German Americans are literally estimated to be 44 million...

And the number of Welsh Americans is needless to state, truly insignificant in comparison. Rougly 1~million. Dutch Americans are WAY up the ladder, they are 4~million and Italian Americans are 17 million from the 2013 census!

No, you're right that you are definitely wrong and good for announcing it that.
No, I was right.
Welsh, Scotch-Irish, Scots and English are all British.

White Americans are mostly British(especially english). German is second. Your statistics are self reported which is extremely stupid. People report whatever they want. People in America are mostly mix of different ethnicities not of single ancestry, so single ancestry report is just dumb
Mulattos usually identify as black, does that mean they are 100% black by ancestry?

. German ancestry is more recent in USA than british, that's why it's more reported. Most of the British ancestry in USA come from pre19th century settlers. USA received 7 million German immigrants when it already had TENS OF MILLIONS of White Americans who descended from pre 19th century British settlers.

How can German ancestry be the number one when the bulk of Germans settled in the USA when it had literally tens of millions of people of British extraction? It doesn't add up, it just doesn't make sense. The British founder effect on early White Americans was just too strong. USA would have needed to receive at least 20 million Germans(instead of 7) to match the British ancestry. German immigration to USA peaked between 1880 and 1890 when USA already had a white population of 50 million, mostly British descendants.

Btw, USA also received further 4.9 million British immigrants in the post 1820 period in addition to the huge amount of White Americans who descended from early British settlers. There's just no way British ancestry is not the number one ancestry in White americans, there's just no way. It's obvious when you look at demographic statistics, immigration records ,etc.

I can back up everything I said with sources.

[Dna8]

Indeed it does. Every single fight I've been in has been initiated by pissed idiots.

I have noticed amongst my sons generation and this may also be location (Auckland), education and reasonable parenting, a marked difference from other generations. Almost all rarely drink and never to excess.

Yeah things are getting better, fortunately.

I've only visited Wellington once, and never been to Christchurch, but I assume that those cities would be experiencing similar positive changes (I'm a JAFA).

I'd say it's mainly rural NZ that still could make a marked improvement.

[Dunai]

I was always impressed by the general good looks of White Australians, both men and women, but especially women compared to their British ancestors. Does anyone think that the climate could have also had a role in making Aussies somewhat different looking than their not so distant British ancestors?

[Dna8]

I was always impressed by the general good looks of White Australians, both men and women, but especially women compared to their British ancestors. Does anyone think that the climate could have also had a role in making Aussies somewhat different looking than their not so distant British ancestors?

surely it's been too short a period for climate to have such an effect?

[Davy Jones's Locker]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Americans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Americans

Irish Americans are roughly estimated to be 45 million (in 2013 were birth rates were lower). Americans with any "Scots-Irish: ancestry are numbered around 27-30 million.


English Americans are approximately 23 million. Technically Scottish Americans aren't taken as "British" in my book but they are roughly 20–25 million.

Now... German Americans are literally estimated to be 44 million...

And the number of Welsh Americans is needless to state, truly insignificant in comparison. Rougly 1~million. Dutch Americans are WAY up the ladder, they are 4~million and Italian Americans are 17 million from the 2013 census!

No, you're right that you are definitely wrong and good for announcing it that.

You're aware that particular group has most of their ancestry from Lowland Scotland and bordering English counties like Northumberland, right.:confused:


True. Heath Ledger was pretty archetypal.

I've read it may be due to diet and accent as well as the regions in the UK & Europe immigration came from. I think the US was a lot of West Country and Scots while Australia was mainly north England.

Immigration to Australia from England was mostly from the south.

[Profileid]

Then I'll respond instead with there is a high demand for living quarters in the NYC Metro area. There is CONSTANT (<<notice the emphasis on constant) construction of apartment buildings along the NJ side of the Hudson river. This is the place to be. Especially since NYC has become the gem of the US with its low crime rate, cultural activities, cleanliness, and its importance as the financial center of the country. You come across people from all over the country here.

Gem of the US hahaha

[RenaRyuguu]

Australia is a Commonwealth country so most of the original population was from the UK. Generally British people (gingers, blondes and the typical looks for Anglos) whereas USA was always more mixed. I see so many Australians looking very Anglo and not mixed as much as the US that is why they differ in looks. Although nowadays Australia is mixed but still there exists the typical Anglo look one is familiar with.

[Ayetooey]

Australia is a Commonwealth country so most of the original population was from the UK. Generally British people (gingers, blondes and the typical looks for Anglos) whereas USA was always more mixed. I see so many Australians looking very Anglo and not mixed as much as the US that is why they differ in looks. Although nowadays Australia is mixed but still there exists the typical Anglo look one is familiar with.

Vast majority of Anglos are brown haired, blondes and gingers are nowhere near as common as you're acting, gingers are 5% or less, Blondes are around 25% including "dark blonde" which is basically brown.

[Dick]

Vast majority of Anglos are brown haired, blondes and gingers are nowhere near as common as you're acting, gingers are 5% or less, Blondes are around 25% including "dark blonde" which is basically brown.
That’s how it is in Canada too

[Tong]

more tanned, better health, better diet, less bad genetics

[RenaRyuguu]

Vast majority of Anglos are brown haired, blondes and gingers are nowhere near as common as you're acting. You watch too much tv.

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/36900000/H2O-Just-Add-Water-h2o-just-add-water-36907054-500-318.jpg

this is an Australian tv show I used to watch as a teen. Yes indeed blondes and especially gingers are not as common however I did say typical Anglo looks too. I am just listing some examples as well. I did not mean it to sound typical. I find saying pale brunettes is self explanatory. They exist in every nation. It is not that uncommon though that at least 20% of the Anglo population in Australia has a lighter shade of hair going more towards the blonde than brunette at least compared to some other European nations.

[Tong]

Because most Australians are Anglo descendants, whereas most Americans either are of German descent or mixed with people of German descent.
I think there are even more Latinos or people of Italian descent in the USA than Anglo descendants.

pure anglo descendants? probably

[Tong]

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/36900000/H2O-Just-Add-Water-h2o-just-add-water-36907054-500-318.jpg

this is an Australian tv show I used to watch as a teen. Yes indeed blondes and especially gingers are not as common however I did say typical Anglo looks too. I am just listing some examples as well. I did not mean it to sound typical. I find saying pale brunettes is self explanatory. They exist in every nation. It is not that uncommon though that at least 20% of the Anglo population in Australia has a lighter shade of hair going more towards the blonde than brunette at least compared to some other European nations.

lol almost every ethnic english person has a shade of brown hair naturally. hair dye is just used too much. ginger hair is relatively common for a country though

[Ayetooey]

this is an Australian tv show I used to watch as a teen. Yes indeed blondes and especially gingers are not as common however I did say typical Anglo looks too. I am just listing some examples as well. I did not mean it to sound typical. I find saying pale brunettes is self explanatory. They exist in every nation. It is not that uncommon though that at least 20% of the population has a lighter shade of hair going more towards the blonde than brunette at least compared to some other European nations

You shouldn't base your views off tv shows sweetheart.

[Ayetooey]

lol almost every ethnic english person has a shade of brown hair naturally. hair dye is just used too much. ginger hair is relatively common for a country though

Ginger hair is around 5% nationally, will go up or down depending on where you are, I'm from the south-east and I know one ginger in my life, true blonde hair is uncommon, though there's more "dark blondes", vast majority are brown or even black haired. Some people live in another reality.

[RenaRyuguu]

You shouldn't base your views off tv shows sweetheart.

I did not. I also watch many Australian youtubers and have heard like stories about Anglo looks there and they did stay true to typical Anglo looks in England etc. I was not trying to say that blondes and gingers are the most typical. I should have phrased myself better.

[Tong]

Ginger hair is around 5% nationally, will go up or down depending on where you are, I'm from the south-east and I know one ginger in my life, true blonde hair is uncommon, though there's more "dark blondes", vast majority are brown or even black haired. Some people live in another reality.

yeah, word. ginger hair is more common than almost any other euro country sides scotland, ireland and the udmurt people though. i would say closer to 10%, my mother is a full grown ginger and there's others on my mothers side (i have black hair though). like when you think about it, it's hard for me to say i know many actually natural blond english people that havent dyed it

[Tong]

I did not. I also watch many Australian youtubers and have heard like stories about Anglo looks there and they did stay true to typical Anglo looks in England etc. I was not trying to say that blondes and gingers are the most typical. I should have phrased myself better.

ngl you shouldnt stereotype england as the ''blond aryan nation'' just saying from an actual english perspective. a lot of australians are ethnic english though, it has the largest pure english diaspora i think

[RenaRyuguu]

ngl you shouldnt stereotype england as the ''blond aryan nation'' just saying from an actual english perspective. a lot of australians are ethnic english though, it has the largest pure english diaspora i think

Yes it does that's what I was trying to say all along

[Dacul]

No, I was right.
Welsh, Scotch-Irish, Scots and English are all British.

White Americans are mostly British(especially english). German is second. Your statistics are self reported which is extremely stupid. People report whatever they want. People in America are mostly mix of different ethnicities not of single ancestry, so single ancestry report is just dumb
Mulattos usually identify as black, does that mean they are 100% black by ancestry?

. German ancestry is more recent in USA than british, that's why it's more reported. Most of the British ancestry in USA come from pre19th century settlers. USA received 7 million German immigrants when it already had TENS OF MILLIONS of White Americans who descended from pre 19th century British settlers.

How can German ancestry be the number one when the bulk of Germans settled in the USA when it had literally tens of millions of people of British extraction? It doesn't add up, it just doesn't make sense. The British founder effect on early White Americans was just too strong. USA would have needed to receive at least 20 million Germans(instead of 7) to match the British ancestry. German immigration to USA peaked between 1880 and 1890 when USA already had a white population of 50 million, mostly British descendants.

Btw, USA also received further 4.9 million British immigrants in the post 1820 period in addition to the huge amount of White Americans who descended from early British settlers. There's just no way British ancestry is not the number one ancestry in White americans, there's just no way. It's obvious when you look at demographic statistics, immigration records ,etc.

I can back up everything I said with sources.

US have ,besides German, Scandos.
About 4.5 millions Americans are telling they are Norwegian Americans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Americans
Another 4.3 millions Americans are telling they are Swedish Americans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Americans
1.5 millions of Americans are telling they are Danish Americans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Americans
That is already a little over 10 millions Americans.
There are also Dutch Americans, which are like 4.5 millions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Americans
So adding Germans those are making like 60 millions Americans, from the 220 millions Americans, that are reporting to be of European ancestry.
That is like more than 25% of Americans, being of Germanic ancestry.
Besides Germanic Americans and British and Irish Americans, there are lots of Italian Americans, Poles Americans, French Americans .
So it seems that the genetic makeup of the US European Americans is quite different compared to the genetic makeup of European Aussies.

[Universe]

So it seems that the genetic makeup of the US European Americans is quite different compared to the genetic makeup of European Aussies.

It is, I'm just saying they're still mostly British.

[Dacul]

I do not know, to me average White American is looking usually long faced and not with dark eyes.
Either blue or hazel eyes.
And at most White Americans the Germanic ancestry is quite visible.

[Westbrook]

It's all the Jewish and Native American blood in us
I do not know, to me average White American is looking usually long faced and not with dark eyes.
Either blue or hazel eyes.
And at most White Americans the Germanic ancestry is quite visible.

[Richmondbread]

I believe you believe this.

Most present day Americans are not from the original settlers but from the large influx of Germans, Poles, Italians, and Irish that came in the late 19th Century. Those with longer lineage in the states- particularly before 1790, have a more Anglo ancestry and a much much greater chance of having a Native American ancestor. Before 1700, almost certainly.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Indeed it does. Every single fight I've been in has been initiated by pissed idiots.

I have noticed amongst my sons generation and this may also be location (Auckland), education and reasonable parenting, a marked difference from other generations. Almost all rarely drink and never to excess.

Alcohol takes away inhibitions and reveals the true self. A so called angry drunk is just a violent person whose kept in check by his inhibitions. If alcohol magically disappeared the world would be a better place by far: less violence. This is in contrast to marijuana - for years classified as a dangerous drug - that doesn't cause people to be violent. I've had a number of people threaten me or come at me with the intent to do me physical harm that were drunk but never had anyone stoned on pot bother me. If anything they've been super friendly.

There is a trend here in the US also of less alcohol abuse among the new generation (not Millienials but rather the ones that come after them that have entered their teen years recently).

[Profileid]

Most present day Americans are not from the original settlers but from the large influx of Germans, Poles, Italians, and Irish that came in the late 19th Century. Those with longer lineage in the states- particularly before 1790, have a more Anglo ancestry and a much much greater chance of having a Native American ancestor. Before 1700, almost certainly.

blacks get more native dna than you

[Profileid]

Alcohol takes away inhibitions and reveals the true self. A so called angry drunk is just a violent person whose kept in check by his inhibitions. If alcohol magically disappeared the world would be a better place by far: less violence. This is in contrast to marijuana - for years classified as a dangerous drug - that doesn't cause people to be violent. I've had a number of people threaten me or come at me with the intent to do me physical harm that were drunk but never had anyone stoned on pot bother me. If anything they've been super friendly.

There is a trend here in the US also of less alcohol abuse among the new generation (not Millienials but rather the ones that come after them that have entered their teen years recently).

Alcohol makes me weird and emotional,but slightly aggressive. You're right with marijuana. Alcohol is far more dangerous.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg
Notice how more harm from alcohol comes from OTHERS

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Most present day Americans are not from the original settlers but from the large influx of Germans, Poles, Italians, and Irish that came in the late 19th Century. Those with longer lineage in the states- particularly before 1790, have a more Anglo ancestry and a much much greater chance of having a Native American ancestor. Before 1700, almost certainly.

I don't know. People intermarry. I often wonder what happen to all the Dutch settlers in northern NJ. I have come across two people who have Dutch ancestry but one is predominately German and the other pedominately Scottish. Southern Whites are predominately of colonial American ancestry. Same for Whites in Vermont and Maine if you exclude French-Canadian immigration to those states in the 20th century.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Alcohol makes me weird and emotional,but slightly aggressive. You're right with marijuana. Alcohol is far more dangerous.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg
Notice how more harm from alcohol comes from OTHERS

That seems like a weird chart. I assume for tobacco and Cannabis 'harm to others' means second hand smoke?

Also, I find it suspect that the speed-like drugs are less harmful to others than many other drugs listed. I took adderall (basically speed) for awhile and it made me very aggressive. I know of others who have said the same.

[Sweetener]

There are many types of white Australian. These two Aussie actresses are fully British:

Maia Mitchell
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSbiTaU0IS-M4Pu2c2zJhdJ9FXNKEI_8qNiX7BK4Hgmugk4pIO_

Caitlin Stasey

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRYaVzo7JbgF0nihWftWKI8pa-wtml-HC22Pf2JKo-HnzWTR3Pw


Now compare them to white American Miranda Lambert
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQSWk0ox9AKG1oNoU9gs0sfoBd_4gU PA3Lh8RK9ofxf4ZEIUA5Q

Miranda looks more NW Euro without any doubt.

[Richmondbread]

There are many types of white Australian. These two Aussie actresses are fully British:

Maia Mitchell
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSbiTaU0IS-M4Pu2c2zJhdJ9FXNKEI_8qNiX7BK4Hgmugk4pIO_

Caitlin Stasey

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRYaVzo7JbgF0nihWftWKI8pa-wtml-HC22Pf2JKo-HnzWTR3Pw


Now compare them to white American Miranda Lambert
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQSWk0ox9AKG1oNoU9gs0sfoBd_4gU PA3Lh8RK9ofxf4ZEIUA5Q

Miranda looks more NW Euro without any doubt.

Yes, the first two look like Aussie women and the last one looks American. But still, I can't say why they look different , I just know they do. Maybe it's the bone structure.

[Richmondbread]

Here's Nicole Kidman. She is American born, but fully Aussie because of her parents and she grew up in Sydney. She definitely looks Australian. Her ancestry is mostly Irish.

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5cbdfb2a80902d6636dc52c1/16:9/w_1280,c_limit/nicole-kidman-may-2019-lede.jpg

When she was younger:

https://s1.r29static.com//bin/entry/20a/x,80/1985710/image.jpg

[Jägerstaffel]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Sam_Worthington_4%2C_2013.jpg
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4563956-1x1-940x940.jpg


They would definitely not pass as those 'standard' Euro-mixed white Americans we see in California, Illinois and New York, although I can see them passing in the southern states of America (Texas, Virginia, Oklahoma, Mississippi and the surrounds) pretty well. Lol

As a Virginian they look totally normal to me.

[Sweetener]

Yes, the first two look like Aussie women and the last one looks American. But still, I can't say why they look different , I just know they do. Maybe it's the bone structure.

Miranda looks more typical British than them

[Richmondbread]

Miranda looks more typical British than them

She looks Texan to me. Not as fully Brit. Seems maybe there is some kind of NA mix possibly distant , or even German. I see a lot of her types also in parts of Western Virginia and the Shenandoah Valley.

[Richmondbread]

As a Virginian they look totally normal to me.

What part of Virginia are you in? The occupied part (north of Fredericksburg) has a lot more foreign looking types.

[Sweetener]

Maia could be American as well cause she looks like Kendall Jenner. Anyway.

[Sweetener]

She looks Texan to me. Not as fully Brit. Seems maybe there is some kind of NA mix possibly distant , or even German. I see a lot of her types also in parts of Western Virginia and the Shenandoah Valley.

What the fuck are you talking about? Texan could be of any ethnicity and she has no NA ancestry. Miranda Lambert looks fully British. She reminds me of Baby Spice.

[Jägerstaffel]

What part of Virginia are you in? The occupied part (north of Fredericksburg) has a lot more foreign looking types.

South and west from Fredericksburg.

[Richmondbread]

What the fuck are you talking about? Texan could be of any ethnicity and she has no NA ancestry. Miranda Lambert looks fully British. She reminds me of Baby Spice.

Her facial structure looks more Kraut to me. Texas had a lot of Germans.

[Richmondbread]

South and west from Fredericksburg.


I'm probably less than 50 miles from you. I live in RVA.

[Sweetener]

Here's Nicole Kidman. She is American born, but fully Aussie because of her parents and she grew up in Sydney. She definitely looks Australian. Her ancestry is mostly Irish.

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5cbdfb2a80902d6636dc52c1/16:9/w_1280,c_limit/nicole-kidman-may-2019-lede.jpg

When she was younger:

https://s1.r29static.com//bin/entry/20a/x,80/1985710/image.jpg

She does not look Aussie she looks Irish. American people with full Irish ancestry can also look like her. Amy is American of British and Irish ancestry
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmXVIvrgh4mABaO7cx2lG84J4XCVXCd H4HbJN4lrd3pbHU5Gbs

[Sweetener]

Her facial structure looks more Kraut to me. Texas had a lot of Germans.

Nope. She is similiar to Baby Spice
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/06/14/4CF95F8500000578-0-image-a-4_1528290849331.jpg

[Jägerstaffel]

I'm probably less than 50 miles from you. I live in RVA.

I wouldn't want to live in Richmond.

[Richmondbread]

Nope. She is similiar to Baby Spice
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/06/14/4CF95F8500000578-0-image-a-4_1528290849331.jpg

Baby Spice looks English, but seems to belong the tribes of Brits that are derived from The Norman invasion influence. She could pass in Germany.

[Sweetener]

Birth Name: Miranda Leigh Lambert

Place of Birth: Longview, Gregg, Texas, U.S.

Date of Birth: November 10, 1983

Ethnicity: English, smaller amounts (to varying degrees) of Irish, Scottish, Welsh, German, French, Dutch
https://ethnicelebs.com/miranda-lambert

[Richmondbread]

I wouldn't want to live in Richmond.

It's not as bad as one might think. The ghetto areas are pretty small. Sure it's a liberal progressive hub, but it also has quite a few don't tread on me conservatives, and lots of great restaurants.
It still can't decide if it's East Coast city or Southern, so it's both , and it works.

[Jägerstaffel]

It's not as bad as one might think. The ghetto areas are pretty small. Sure it's a liberal progressive hub, but it also has quite a few don't tread on me conservatives, and lots of great restaurants.
It still can't decide if it's East Coast or Southern, and it's both , and it works.

Personal preference. I've been there enough times to know that it isn't for me.

[Ruggery]

Baby Spice looks English, but seems to belong the tribes of Brits that are derived from The Norman invasion influence. She could pass in Germany.

The Normans are a minority and about half of them looked like Frenchmen from the north.
Maybe you refer to the Anglo-Saxons or the Jutes.

[Richmondbread]

Personal preference. I've been there enough times to know that it isn't for me.

You prefer the country, I assume? My family has been in the Richmond area for generations, but I plan to leave and get out to the country soon. I'm looking into Powhatan County.

[Zuh]

Because they eat less cheese burgers.

[Jägerstaffel]

You prefer the country, I assume?

Yep. Richmond is like 50% black too. Not what I would choose to live around.

[Richmondbread]

Because they eat less cheese burgers.

Lots of obese Australians:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Too47UynSJ0

[Sweetener]

Baby Spice looks English, but seems to belong the tribes of Brits that are derived from The Norman invasion influence. She could pass in Germany.

Baby is just English and Miranda got almost no German ancestry. It says Miranda is mostly English
https://ethnicelebs.com/miranda-lambert

You are the only white American that fancy NA ancestry. Country singers are proud to be white.

[Sweetener]

This Anglo Aussie actress can even pass for Southern European. It's funny when you guys say Aussies are blondes.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcT-y3FpChxAtdbcZHZUQWUF41NlOsjd6pjSH6ydIrEVv9f5hUSY

And also Aussie actress Caitlin Stasey, her family came from England


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSgRWLErc1X5Kd4O68hB5nl7t4w6A-HiS6y5WSJB6HhXtMcuB85

[Vojnik]

This Anglo Aussie actress can even pass for Southern European. It's funny when you guys say Aussies are blondes.





Yes not all. Alot are brunettes and look southern.

Garry Lyon:
https://i2.wp.com/tvtonight.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016-02-13_1429.jpg

Mick Molloy:
https://www.standup.com.au/sites/default/files/imagecache/event_thumb/MickMolloy2012.jpg

[Vojnik]

Lots of obese Australians:



Queenslanders are the most laid back Australians I think. They are very slow moving. Never in a rush. Compare that with Victorians and New South Welshman who are rush rush rush.

[Sweetener]

Yes not all. Alot are brunettes and look southern.

Garry Lyon:
https://i2.wp.com/tvtonight.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016-02-13_1429.jpg

Mick Molloy:
https://www.standup.com.au/sites/default/files/imagecache/event_thumb/MickMolloy2012.jpg

https://i.gifer.com/MSMR.gif