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Impaler
01-03-2019, 08:55 PM
Please do not qoute the pictures.

http://i.imgur.com/wo1cA76.jpg (https://imgur.com/wo1cA76)
http://i.imgur.com/RabZkcv.jpg (https://imgur.com/RabZkcv)
http://i.imgur.com/9FzYNu6.jpg (https://imgur.com/9FzYNu6)
http://i.imgur.com/YT9UgSh.png (https://imgur.com/YT9UgSh)
http://i.imgur.com/xrOIYCT.jpg (https://imgur.com/xrOIYCT)
http://i.imgur.com/nU2YrXv.png (https://imgur.com/nU2YrXv)
http://i.imgur.com/VCynQCi.jpg (https://imgur.com/VCynQCi)

The Blade
01-03-2019, 09:00 PM
Baltic (West Baltid) + Mediterranean.
From Hungary and Slovenia in Central Europe to Greece in the south.

nittionia
01-03-2019, 09:05 PM
Pontid + med I think. I would probably guess you as Hungarian/Romanian first (:

Dna8
01-03-2019, 09:07 PM
You have like a perfectly shaped head lol

Pass all over Southern Europe.. but for me, in some pics you look like an Iberian Stallion, in others like a proper Balkan Boy..

meiliren
01-03-2019, 09:08 PM
Baltic + Pontic Mediterranean.

You look Ukrainian.

Impaler
01-03-2019, 09:11 PM
You have like a perfectly shaped head lol

Pass all over Southern Europe.. but for me, in some pics you look like an Iberian Stallion, in others like a proper Balkan Boy..

I have a large zygomatic arch, over 16 cm. :icon_lol:

Kivan
01-03-2019, 09:11 PM
I think the classification in your profile works here. Pontid + Neo-Danubian admix.

Passes in SE Europe. Could pass as Turkish and as some Caucasus ethnicities too.

Joso
01-03-2019, 09:13 PM
I have a large zygomatic arch, over 16 cm. :icon_lol:

Dinarid+pontid+gorid, i think

Root
01-03-2019, 09:16 PM
Impaleroid with Attiloid influence. Meso to brachy skull shape: Pontid(Med extension)/Gorid(East Alpine+Baltid version).. BEST fit - Central and SE Euro states.. you look young & fresh top model as always

Joso
01-03-2019, 09:18 PM
Baltic (West Baltid) + Mediterranean.
From Hungary and Slovenia in Central Europe to Greece in the south.

Is not the back of his head too flat? Does it indicate dinarid influence? But yes, i agree that he have baltid too

Impaler
01-03-2019, 09:18 PM
Impaleroid with Attiloid influence. Meso to brachy skull shape: Pontid(Med extension)/Gorid(East Alpine+Baltid version).. BEST fit - Central and SE Euro states.. you look young & fresh top model as always

Thank you, bro!

The Blade
01-03-2019, 09:22 PM
Is not the back of his head too flat? Does it indicate dinarid influence? But yes, i agree that he have baltid too
Baltids are themselves quite brachycephalic but dinarization is possible as an additional element, yes.

Dacul
01-03-2019, 09:28 PM
Without seeing the profile picture, I would say tall Pontid.
With profile picture, Dinarid and Baltid are also visible but are less than Pontid.

meiliren
01-03-2019, 09:28 PM
Baltids are themselves quite brachycephalic but dinarization is possible as an additional element, yes.

Average C.I. Baltics are 80.

Very far from real brachy 84-85 like Dinarics.

https://i.imgur.com/zsMFo2N.jpg

The Blade
01-03-2019, 09:36 PM
Average C.I. Baltics are 80.

Very far from real brachy 84-85 like Dinarics.

https://i.imgur.com/zsMFo2N.jpg
That's because Bunak's system you quote includes many different types labelled as "Baltid'' by the name of the region they inhabited, even if some showed clear North Pontid, Nordid and Norid looks.
https://i.imgur.com/Z7sgpb1.jpg
Proper Baltid is a quite brachy type.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
01-03-2019, 09:37 PM
uber romanian

Joso
01-03-2019, 09:38 PM
Baltids are themselves quite brachycephalic but dinarization is possible as an additional element, yes.

I think you are right, his back of the head looks very similar to the baltid one in this image:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77215&d=1529638194

meiliren
01-03-2019, 09:42 PM
That's because Bunak's system you quote includes many different types labelled as "Baltid'' by the name of the region they inhabited, even if some showed clear North Pontid, Nordid and Norid looks.
https://i.imgur.com/Z7sgpb1.jpg
Proper Baltid is a quite brachy type.

Coon's East Baltic has C.I. 81 also very far from real brachy.

The Blade
01-03-2019, 09:44 PM
Coon's East Baltic has C.I. 81 also very far from real brachy.
As a lower border.
And, by the way, I don't know what you are debating, as according to you he is Baltic-Pontic mix. Pontic is a meso to dolicho type, so brachycephaly according to your classification must also be due to Baltid element.

meiliren
01-03-2019, 09:54 PM
As a lower border.
And, by the way, I don't know what you are debating, as according to you he is Baltic-Pontic mix. Pontic is a meso to dolicho type, so brachycephaly according to your classification must also be due to Baltid element.

You said


Baltids are themselves quite brachycephalic

According to Bunak and Coon Baltics are not brachy.

Real brachy are Dinarics with average C.I. 84-85.

Impaler
01-03-2019, 09:55 PM
As a lower border.
And, by the way, I don't know what you are debating, as according to you he is Baltic-Pontic mix. Pontic is a meso to dolicho type, so brachycephaly according to your classification must also be due to Baltid element.

Another profile pic

http://i.imgur.com/mUESlKr.jpg (https://imgur.com/mUESlKr)

meiliren
01-03-2019, 09:55 PM
I think you are right, his back of the head looks very similar to the baltid one in this image:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77215&d=1529638194

And real East Baltic from Coon.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe073.jpg

The Blade
01-03-2019, 10:03 PM
You said



According to Bunak and Coon Baltics are not brachy.

Real brachy are Dinarics with average C.I. 84-85.
1) Half or more of Bunak's Baltids match his North Pontid criteria and would by no means be called East Baltic/Neo-Danubian by Coon.
2) 81 for a male is brachy by some systems and only 0,11 units away from brachycephaly by other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalic_index
https://scielo.conicyt.cl/fbpe/img/ijmorphol/v30n1/art22_t2.jpg
http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/dpjo/v18n3/26t01.jpg
3) If by your invalid logic Baltid is a meso type and, knowing Pontic Med is also not brachy, how could you call hyperbrachycephalic original poster Baltic-Pontic mix? You contradict yourself with your stupidities already.

Mr.G
01-03-2019, 10:04 PM
The great Impaler!

I originally thought Alpine Med + Dinarid influence, but looking at the comments, I'm gonna roll with Baltic Med + Dinarid influence.

Your look is so unique, I don't think central Europe or extreme southern Europe are great fits for you (of course you pass there).

Best fit: Romania

The Blade
01-03-2019, 10:11 PM
Another profile pic

http://i.imgur.com/mUESlKr.jpg (https://imgur.com/mUESlKr)
I stick to my claim I have expressed before. West Baltid + Mediterranean elements.

meiliren
01-03-2019, 10:11 PM
1) Half or more of Bunak's Baltids match his North Pontid criteria and would by no means be called East Baltic/Neo-Danubian by Coon.
2) 81 for a male is brachy by some systems and only 0,11 units away from brachycephaly by other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalic_index
https://scielo.conicyt.cl/fbpe/img/ijmorphol/v30n1/art22_t2.jpg
http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/dpjo/v18n3/26t01.jpg
3) If by your invalid logic Baltid is a meso type and, knowing Pontic Med is also not brachy, how could you call hyperbrachycephalic original poster Baltic-Pontic mix? You contradict yourselves with your stupidities already.

Again.

It's not for living person.

For living person.

75 to 83 76 to 81 mesaticephalic 'medium-headed' mesocephalic; mesocranial


For example

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24886038.

The Blade
01-03-2019, 10:13 PM
Again.

It's not for living person.

For living person.

75 to 83 76 to 81 mesaticephalic 'medium-headed' mesocephalic; mesocranial


For example

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24886038.
Totally tired of your bullshit.

meiliren
01-03-2019, 10:16 PM
Totally tired of your bullshit.

It's real anthropometric measurement.

Not your fake theory.

The Blade
01-03-2019, 10:18 PM
It's real anthropometric measurement.

Not your fake theory.
Completely the opposite, fantasy boy.

meiliren
01-03-2019, 10:20 PM
Another profile pic

http://i.imgur.com/mUESlKr.jpg (https://imgur.com/mUESlKr)

You have Baltic skull.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe073.jpg

Impaler
01-03-2019, 10:21 PM
Come on guys, be chill! :) I can see also some Baltic/Neo-Danubian + Mediterranean elements. My very large zygomatic arch + round face and plump cheeks are Baltic traits.

The Blade
01-03-2019, 10:27 PM
Come on guys, be chill! :) I can see also some Baltic/Neo-Danubian + Mediterranean elements. My very large zygomatic arch + round face and plump cheeks are Baltic traits.
Hey, my friend! You look hyperbrachycephalic. What's your cephalic index? I believe somewhere around 85-86 - what were your exact measurements?

Impaler
01-03-2019, 10:28 PM
Hey, my friend! You look hyperbrachycephalic. What's your cephalic index? I believe somewhere around 85-86 - what were your exact measurements?

Last time when I measured it was like 85,7.

The Blade
01-03-2019, 10:29 PM
Last time when I measured it was like 85,7.
Thank you very much for the information!

Tommie
01-03-2019, 11:03 PM
You have an interesting look :)



uber romanian

I wouldn't say he looks uber Romanian, but he is part of what you can see in Romania, especially in the Southeast. Romanians are one the most heterogenous people in Europe.

Zroota
01-03-2019, 11:31 PM
Perhaps you do have a Baltic skull, but going by frontal facial features (including forehead) you seemed like Dinaro-Med with some Alpine & North Pontid.

Ice
01-04-2019, 02:48 PM
Pontid-Med

Zmey Gorynych
01-04-2019, 02:57 PM
Alpinoid with Pontid/Med. I think that you're both mesoprosopic and brachycephalic but you certainly have features that come from a more gracile element. The shape of your nose, the narrower jaw, shorter chin, shape and placement of your eyes, etc. You approach a stabilized blend of Alpinoid and Med/Pontid. Southern European look I'd say.

Knight Slayer
02-22-2019, 02:22 PM
Pontic + Baltic.

Mr.G
02-22-2019, 03:45 PM
I still like Pontic + Baltic for you too.

But I think an added Dinaric element may be visible in side profile and also might help explain your hyperbrachycephally. But certainly your skull shape looks more Baltic than Dinaric.

JMack
02-22-2019, 03:58 PM
Alpinoid with Pontid/Med. I think that you're both mesoprosopic and brachycephalic but you certainly have features that come from a more gracile element. The shape of your nose, the narrower jaw, shorter chin, shape and placement of your eyes, etc. You approach a stabilized blend of Alpinoid and Med/Pontid. Southern European look I'd say.

Agreed. I don't see Baltic influence as well.

He can pass as average in all of Southern Europe and Balkans.