Pois k36 calculator

[Ayetooey]

You can run this calculator here using Lucasz coordinates if you've taken his k36 test. Wondering if anyone has used it and what their results were.

http://185.144.156.77:3000/eurogenesK36pca.html

[Lucas]

It was thread here but I can't find now.

[Ayetooey]

It was thread here but I can't find now.

I found it but it's been closed for some reason so I posted a new one.

[Bunalim]

You can run this calculator here using Lucasz coordinates if you've taken his k36 test. Wondering if anyone has used it and what their results were.

http://185.144.156.77:3000/eurogenesK36pca.html

how do we get the coordinates?

[Ayetooey]

how do we get the coordinates?

You need to of done Lucasz k36 analysis, after that email him he will send you the coordinates.

[Coastal Elite]

DE_Bayern 2.0025
Swiss_German 2.0101
DE_Rheinland-Pfalz 2.0326
DE_Baden-Wurttemberg 2.1012
FR_North-East 2.2427

1.7922
DE_Bayern 75
GR Central 19.17
Ireland 5.83

[Ayetooey]

1.05
Irish 50.83
Romanian 49.17

1.1197
German 36.67
Irish 30
Romanian 33.33

0.9241
French 45
Irish 20.83
Romanian 34.17

0.9025
French 45.83
Romanian 30.83
German 9.17
Irish 14.17

Damn....it was accurate for you...nice

[Coastal Elite]

Damn....it was accurate for you...nice

Thanks, all these calculators want to make me French.

[Ayetooey]

Thanks, all these calculators want to make me French.

Indeed, though if you're sure of your background, +2 is the best way to go, your +2 is bang on for you...and at a low distance.

[Dick]

I get 100% Bosniaks or 50/50 Croat_BiH+Western_Serbs without using Bosniaks @1.56 if I did it right.

[Ayetooey]

I get 100% Bosniaks or 50/50 Croat_BiH+Western_Serbs without using Bosniaks @1.56 if I did it right.

Very nice.

[Ayetooey]

I'm getting 60% Serb 40% English on this calc, to get 50% Serb I need to go down to Switzerland, to get 50% English I need to go down to some dark places.

[Coastal Elite]

I'm getting 60% Serb 40% English on this calc, to get 50% Serb I need to go down to Switzerland, to get 50% English I need to go down to some dark places.

I get some ok fits with England - Serbia

Fit 2.0535
England South-East 60.83
Serbian 39.17

Fit 1.9853
England North-East 50
Serbian 50

Fit 2.1111
England North-West 55
Serbian 45


The Illyrian brotherhood

ILLYRIAN,42.2
CELTIC-NORTHWEST,35.6
PONTIC,8.6
BALTIC,5.6
PANNONIAN-PONTIC,4.6
ALANIC,2
THRACIAN-PONTIC,1.4

[firemonkey]

1000/500 default pen


1.0646

Northern Ireland 50.6
Iceland 35.4
NL Groningen 8.4
Welsh 5.6


1.0643


Northern Ireland 56
Iceland 33.4
NL Groningen 10.6

[Kaspias]

75 Pomak + 10 Pontic Greeks + 15 Tatar_Siberia = 1.7919

[Ayetooey]

75 Pomak + 10 Pontic Greeks + 15 Tatar_Siberia = 1.7919

Damn, very nice.

[Thracian]

Why did they remove users in this program?

[Kaspias]

Why did they remove users in this program?

How close you to BLG-Turks? When i try Pomak and BLG_Turks together i get only 100 Pomak. Somethings are wrong perhaps?

[Ayetooey]

How close you to BLG-Turks? When i try Pomak and BLG_Turks together i get only 100 Pomak. Somethings are wrong perhaps?

There's something wrong for me when I use it, I'm getting 65% Montenegrin when I compare with UK pops, even Macedonia gives me 60%.

[Kaspias]

There's something wrong for me when I use it, I'm getting 65% Montenegrin when I compare with UK pops, even Macedonia gives me 60%.

You're half British and half Serb. Imagine you put both to run then you take only 100 Serbia lol. I couldn't get any BLG-Turks.

-- In my experience, K36 shifting people a bit east. So i wouldn't be surprised to your case.

[Ayetooey]

You're half British and half Serb. Imagine you put both to run then you take only 100 Serbia lol. I couldn't get any BLG-Turks.

-- In my experience, K36 shifting people a bit east. So i wouldn't be surprised to your case.

That makes sense, closest 50/50 out of south Slavic countries for me on this is Bulgaria lol.

[Luke35]

I'll see how good it works for me, I didn't really know how to utilize this calc before but I think I get it now. I just asked Lukasz to resend me my coordinates. They were in the thread that has since disappeared. Like a dope, I never copied them down.

[Thracian]

How close you to BLG-Turks? When i try Pomak and BLG_Turks together i get only 100 Pomak. Somethings are wrong perhaps?

2.60.

I usually get so high distance but when I select some unknown ethinicities in my family such as Swiss Italian, Irish, German etc.. I get less than 2.

I get 95% Blg Turks and 5% Pomak.

[Kaspias]

That makes sense, closest 50/50 out of south Slavic countries for me on this is Bulgaria lol.

Bulgaria? Welcome to the crew lol


2.60.

I usually get so high distance but when I select some unknown ethinicities in my family such as Swiss Italian, Irish, German etc.. I get less than 2.

I get 95% Blg Turks and 5% Pomak.


Pomak --> 2.3
BLG_Turks --> 2.8

Distance to me. Same case, my closest distance is 1.79 which i posted above. Pomak+Turkmen gives 2.1. But when i pick irrelevant samples like Finnish + Cyprus i get 1.2 lol.

[Lucas]

BTW I don't know why all users which were added to Runner (about 100 people) are gone. You can ask Poi on Anthrogenica about that... https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?15782-NEW-Poi-s-K36-nMonte-Runner-(PCA-based)-using-my-spreadsheet-with-more-than-600-pops

[Luke35]

Okay, I plugged these place combos below because those seemed to be pretty good midpoint fits for my mom and my dad. Does anybody have any suggestions of any pop combos I should try? Thanks

Fit: 1.2656
FR_Brittany 39.17%
Slovenia 60.83%

Fit: 1.512
Croatia 52.5%
FR_North West 47.5%

[Gründig]

These are not the closest distances I can get but probably the most accurate. I may have dutch ancestry or they may be a proxy for an English population.

1.2776

DE Bayern,60
NL Noord-Holland,40


1.2669

DE Baden-Wurttemberg,51.67
NL Noord-Holland,48.33


These results confuse me a bit. I'm not sure why I get a population so north in Sweden. Out of all similar populations, these work the best.

1.2221

DE Bayern,81.67
SV Norrland,18.33


1.2156

DE Bayern,86.67
Swede Finland,13.33

[Luke35]

Got 50/50 here, but Swiss German is too eastern for my mother:

Fit: 1.5255
Hungary: 50%
Swiss German 50%


And on this one I tried Ayetooey's combo:

Fit: 1.6132
SE England: 46.67%
Serbian: 53.33%

[Luke35]

Here's Romania and Ireland:

Fit: 1.6164
Ireland: 39.17%
Romania_North-East: 60.83%

[Luke35]

And here's one, Kaspias style:

Fit: 4.0127
Pomak: 100
Pontic_Greeks: 0
Tatar_Siberia: 0

[Kaspias]

And here's one, Kaspias style:

Fit: 4.0127
Pomak: 100
Pontic_Greeks: 0
Tatar_Siberia: 0

Hahaha

I'm surprised you get zero tatar :D

[Ayetooey]

Thanks, all these calculators want to make me French.

Do you mind running just Romania for yourself, and then just Irish for yourself, and telling me what fit you get for each individually?

[Ayetooey]

England North-East:46.67
Pomak: 53.33
Fit: 3.1675

With Mr G's mix.

Hungary : 76.67
England South-East: 23.33
Fit: 2.8658

[Luke35]

England North-East:46.67
Pomak: 53.33
Fit: 3.1675

With Mr G's mix.

Hungary : 76.67
England South-East: 23.33
Fit: 2.8658

Yeah, just like on the plots, you are a bit SE shifted compared to me, but we are relatively close.

Hungary: 65
England South-East: 35
Fit: 1.7932

[Luke35]

I need to go to Romania to get SE England to work:

Romania North-West 50
England South-East 50
Fit: 1.7442

[Ayetooey]

I need to go to Romania to get SE England to work:

Romania North-West 50
England South-East 50
Fit: 1.7442

Yeah it seems to be hard for me to match with England on this calc at all, I only match 50/50 with south balkan countries, Serbia is 65%.

[nittionia]

I only have my dad's coordinates so far, this is the closest distance I got while trying to get 50/50:

Romania Central: 48.33
Gotland: 51.67
Fit: 2.8512

[Ayetooey]

Serbian: 49.17
Swiss German: 50.83
Fit. 2.8096

[Luke35]

I only have my dad's coordinates so far, this is the closest distance I got while trying to get 50/50:

Romania Central: 48.33
Gotland: 51.67
Fit: 2.8512

I am assuming the gold standard is a fit of about 1 or less. Your dad may need three or four pops to get that fit down.

[Grace O'Malley]

I've been playing around with this and I've added countries that I think might be applicable for my ancestry but the lowest fit I can get is this. I've added Scotland which gave me 0 and Brittany below which also gives me 0.

Fit 1.0974

FR Brittany 0
Ireland 83.33
Iceland 16.67
Scotland 0

I wish it would just select the countries automatically. Has anyone got any suggestions I could try?

Thanks

Fit 1.1546
FR Brittany 0
Ireland 100

Fit 1.1153
Ireland 93.33
Scotland 6.67

Fit 1.1119
Ireland 89.17
Scotland 0
Norway West 10.83

Fit 1.1177
Ireland 86.67
Norway West 13.33


Fit 1.117
England North West 0
FR Basque 0
Ireland 86.67
Norway West 13.33

Does Ireland and Scotland cancel each other out possibly?

Closest model I can get is.

Fit 1.0974

Iceland 16.67
Ireland 83.33

[Luke35]

You're half British and half Serb. Imagine you put both to run then you take only 100 Serbia lol. I couldn't get any BLG-Turks.

-- In my experience, K36 shifting people a bit east. So i wouldn't be surprised to your case.

When I split my mom between coastal France and north central German, I can get things pretty close, if there is a shift east it is only slight. I wanna see what happens if Ayetooey puts a German country in the mix.

My +3 is pretty good here:

Fit: 1.3823
DE Rheinland-Pfalz 24.17
FR Brittany 20.83
Hungary 55

[Ayetooey]

DE Rheinland-Pfalz: 45.83
Serbian: 54.17
Fit: 2.804

[Coastal Elite]

Do you mind running just Romania for yourself, and then just Irish for yourself, and telling me what fit you get for each individually?

Here is a sampling. I seem to come closer to England than either Ireland or Romania.

England_South-East 2.7774
England_North-West 3.1632
England_North-East 3.4089
Northern_Ireland 3.6176
Romania_North-East 3.6756
South_Romania 3.6854
Ireland 3.919



Top Individual Fits
1) DE_Bayern 2.0025
2) Swiss_German 2.0101
3) DE_Rheinland-Pfalz 2.0326
4) DE_Baden-Wurttemberg 2.1012
5) FR_North-East 2.2427

[Ayetooey]

Here is a sampling. I seem to come closer to England than either Ireland or Romania.

England_South-East 2.7774
England_North-West 3.1632
England_North-East 3.4089
Northern_Ireland 3.6176
Romania_North-East 3.6756
South_Romania 3.6854
Ireland 3.919



Top Individual Fits
1) DE_Bayern 2.0025
2) Swiss_German 2.0101
3) DE_Rheinland-Pfalz 2.0326
4) DE_Baden-Wurttemberg 2.1012
5) FR_North-East 2.2427

Makes sense I guess since England is very slightly closer to your genetic midpoint which is Germany/Austria.

[Luke35]

DE Rheinland-Pfalz: 45.83
Serbian: 54.17
Fit: 2.804

Hmmm, can't seem to find that right combination for you. Tough case.

[Kaspias]

DE Rheinland-Pfalz: 45.83
Serbian: 54.17
Fit: 2.804

DE Rheinland-Pfalz: 52.5
Turkmen: 47.5
Fit: 2.8556

:D

[Ayetooey]

Hmmm, can't seem to find that right combination for you. Tough case.

This calc seems to plot us both to the south, since your +2 is quite close to Serbia/England when Serbians plot quite a bit to the south of Hungary. On global 25 serbia/england is 50/50 for me. I wonder what this calc was like with the old reference pops.

[Luke35]

This calc seems to plot us both to the south, since your +2 is quite close to Serbia/England when Serbians plot quite a bit to the south of Hungary. On global 25 serbia/england is 50/50 for me. I wonder what this calc was like with the old reference pops.

Yes, I see, that could very well be. My dad probably would plot just a bit south of Hungary. He is the far right dot on this plot, assuming I am the mid point he would more or less land in Croatia, but not Serbia.
https://i.imgur.com/yWrdkVT.png

[Luke35]

Also, when I plotted my wife and I, my children were almost exactly between us. So I know there is some accuracy to this.

Since I can accurately plot my me and my mom, my dad's position on there is about right I believe. No way is the Hungary dot far enough east or south for him.

[J. Ketch]

Did this ages ago.

Best fit

Fit 1.2693
DE Mecklenburg-Vorpommern 10
DE Niedersachsen 15.83
FR Brittany 38.33
NL Drenthe 35.83

Best fit with approximate ancestry

Fit 1.7029
England North-West 0
England South-East 50.83
Ireland 4.17
Northern Ireland 45
Welsh 0

[firemonkey]

My best 2 population




pen=0 1.0621

Northern Ireland 54.4
Iceland 45.6


Same for pen=0

[celticdragongod]

Fit=1.6527
Ireland=100

Fit=1.6468
Ireland=93.33
Norway West=6.67

Fit=1.6316
Ireland=85.83
NL Utrecht=14.17

Fit=1.6315
Ireland=73.33
Northern Ireland=26.67

Fit=1.6277
Ireland=67.50
Welsh=32.50

Fit=1.6226
Ireland=88.33
NL Noord-Holland=11.67

Fit=1.6181
Ireland=84.17
NL Zuid Holland=15.83

Fit=1.5811
Ireland=76.67
NL Noord-Brabant=23.33

Fit=1.5515
Ireland=51.67
Cumbria=48.33

Fit=1.4882
Ireland=67.50
Afrikaner=32.50

Fit=1.4751
Ireland=60.00
FR Brittany=40.00

[Lucas]

It was some server error probably. I informed Poi and custom users are added again to K36 Runner.

[Grace O'Malley]

My best 2 population




pen=0 1.0621

Northern Ireland 54.4
Iceland 45.6


Same for pen=0

This is what I get for that combination. It not as close as using Ireland though.

Fit: 1.4392

Iceland 21.67
Northern Ireland 78.88

This is my mother's though.

Fit: 1.1524

Iceland 40
Northern Ireland 60

Fit 1.1173

Iceland 44.17
Ireland 55.83

Fit 1.1043

Norway West 44.17
Ireland 55.83

This model is a bit closer for both myself and mother.

Mine

Fit: 1.1039

Iceland 10
Ireland 85.83
West Norway 4.17

My mother

Fit: 1.103

Iceland 17.5
Ireland 55
Norway West 27.5

[Grace O'Malley]

It was some server error probably. I informed Poi and custom users are added again to K36 Runner.

Thanks for that. It makes it a lot easier now without having to search for coordinates.

[Lucas]

Thanks for that. It makes it a lot easier now without having to search for coordinates.

If somebody isn't included on custom user list in K36 Runner, post your coordinates. I will send to Poi when it will be at least few.

[firemonkey]

This is what I get for that combination. It not as close as using Ireland though.

Fit: 1.4392

Iceland 21.67
Northern Ireland 78.88

This is my mother's though.

Fit: 1.1524

Iceland 40
Northern Ireland 60

Fit 1.1173

Iceland 44.17
Ireland 55.83

Fit 1.1043

Norway West 44.17
Ireland 55.83

This model is a bit closer for both myself and mother.

Mine

Fit: 1.1039

Iceland 10
Ireland 85.83
West Norway 4.17

My mother

Fit: 1.103

Iceland 17.5
Ireland 55
Norway West 27.5


Pen 0

1.1965

Iceland 58.4
Ireland 41.6


1.3378

Norway West 50.2
Ireland 49.8

[celticdragongod]

If somebody isn't included on custom user list in K36 Runner, post your coordinates. I will send to Poi when it will be at least few.

cdg,-1.6251,-1.3376,-2.1282,-1.0529,-2.3865,-0.24446,-1.0861,2.8106,0.2513,-0.14814,0.99336,-1.4384,1.7689,-1.0703,0.45125,0.64623,-0.8328,-2.1008,-0.030067,-0.13867,0.035395,0.42671,0.35023,-0.27311,-0.15965,0.038399,0.83398,-0.11004,-0.69878,0.28092,-0.17612,-0.2114,0.21086,-0.10307,-0.80467,-0.0062113

[Cumansky]

Fit: 1.7745

71.67 Latvia General
22.5 Macedonia FYROM
4.17 Jew Sephardi Portugal Belmonte
1.67 ALG Kabylie

Fit: 1.6524

61.5 Latvia General
38.5 Romania Northeast

Fit: 1.4348

40.33 Latvia General
30.83 Cossack Zaporozhe
27 Carpathian Rusyn
1.83 Puertorico

Fit: 1.3822

51.83 Ukraine Sumy
31.67 Latvia General
10.33 Serbian
6.17 Jew Sephardi Portugal Belmonte

[Cumansky]

Here is my cousin kit, South Polish

Fit: 1.4963

75 Ukraine Sumy
9.17 Crimean Tatar Coast
8.33 RU Don Cossacks
7.5 Avars

[J. Ketch]

Celtic vs Germanic

Fit - 1.4346
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern - 24.17
Niedersachsen - 5
SW England - 40.83
Ireland - 0.83
NL Drenthe - 29.17
N. Ireland - 0
Welsh - 0

Fit - 1.7348
Denmark - 31.67
Ireland - 4.17
N. Ireland - 64.17
SV Gotland - 0
SV Skane - 0

Fit - 1.8911
Ireland - 64.17
SV Gotaland - 15.83
SV Skane - 20

Fit - 1.77
Denmark - 45
SW England - 55

Fit - 1.6151
Niedersachsen - 63.33
Denmark - 0
Ireland - 36.67
Welsh - 0

Fit - 1.537
Niedersachsen - 60.83
England SW - 39.17
N. Ireland - 0