Uralics are not white

[Borealis]

1 Udmurt German:Average 15.8975 Open Map 100
2 Udmurt Russian_Smolensk:Average 14.5453 Open Map 100

1 Mari German:Average 23.6487 Open Map 100
2 Mari Russian_Smolensk:Average 22.2372 Open Map 100

1 Mansi German:Average 32.7966 Open Map 100
2 Mansi Russian_Smolensk:Average 31.8446 Open Map 100

[Bellbeaking]

Those are very large distances wow. But if not white how do we define them?

[Dna8]

Some pics would be good furnishing for this thread..

[Borealis]

Those are very large distances wow. But if not white how do we define them?

They are something like Siberians.

[Finnish Swede]

1 Udmurt German:Average 15.8975 Open Map 100
2 Udmurt Russian_Smolensk:Average 14.5453 Open Map 100

1 Mari German:Average 23.6487 Open Map 100
2 Mari Russian_Smolensk:Average 22.2372 Open Map 100

1 Mansi German:Average 32.7966 Open Map 100
2 Mansi Russian_Smolensk:Average 31.8446 Open Map 100




How it looks like if you compare them to Nenets/Samoyeds and/or some Russian minorities which lives eastern side of Ural mountains?

[Borealis]

How it looks like if you compare them to Nenets/Samoyeds and/or some Russian minorities which lives eastern side of Ural mountains?

1 German Nenets:Average 44.6554 Open Map 100
2 German Nganassan:Average 60.6622 Open Map 100
3 German Selkup:Average 43.2982 Open Map 100

[Leto]

So what? They are a fringe/transitional group. Especially the Mansi and Khants are like half Siberian, half West Eurasian or something like that.

[Finnish Swede]

1 German Nenets:Average 44.6554 Open Map 100
2 German Nganassan:Average 60.6622 Open Map 100
3 German Selkup:Average 43.2982 Open Map 100


I did't mean Germans ... I meant those two Uralic ethnics you have in your 1 post.

[Borealis]

I did't mean Germans ... I meant those two Uralic ethnics you have in your 1 post.

you want me to compare the western uralics with eastern ones?

[Finnish Swede]

you want me to compare the western uralics with eastern ones?

Yup...to see how close those are. And to see is it 'right'' to keep/call those as a one and same group.

[Leto]

you want me to compare the western uralics with eastern ones?
The Mari are geographically not Uralic though. They are 'Volgaic' to be exact. Udmurts are a bit more Eastern, closer to the Urals.

[Borealis]

The Mari are geographically not Uralic though. They are 'Volgaic' to be exact. Udmurts are a bit more Eastern, closer to the Urals.

This post is technically about Finno-Ugric people living along the border between Russia and Asia. I wasnt sure how to name it

[Borealis]

Yup...to see how close those are. And to see is it 'right'' to keep/call those as a one and same group.

1 Mari Nenets:Average 26.0079 Open Map 100
2 Mari Nganassan:Average 42.5725 Open Map 100
3 Mari Selkup:Average 25.0419 Open Map 100

1 Mansi Nenets:Average 10.3561 Open Map 100
2 Mansi Nganassan:Average 28.1351 Open Map 100
3 Mansi Selkup:Average 8.6924 Open Map 100

1 Udmurt Nenets:Average 26.3898 Open Map 100
2 Udmurt Nganassan:Average 43.3413 Open Map 100
3 Udmurt Selkup:Average 24.9753 Open Map 100

[Leto]

This post is technically about Finno-Ugric people living along the border between Russia and Asia. I wasnt sure how to name it
Okay. Volga Tatars and Chuvash have a lot of that ancestry as well, mostly Turkified Volga inhabitants. As for whiteness, well only Mordovians cluster with ethnic Russians, the rest have too much Siberian/East Eurasian to plot near any other European group. Maybe Komi would also be somewhat close to some Northern Russians.
The Mansi and Khants are not even in Europe geographically, they are to the east of the Urals.

[Finnish Swede]

1 Mari Nenets:Average 26.0079 Open Map 100
2 Mari Nganassan:Average 42.5725 Open Map 100
3 Mari Selkup:Average 25.0419 Open Map 100

1 Mansi Nenets:Average 10.3561 Open Map 100
2 Mansi Nganassan:Average 28.1351 Open Map 100
3 Mansi Selkup:Average 8.6924 Open Map 100

1 Udmurt Nenets:Average 26.3898 Open Map 100
2 Udmurt Nganassan:Average 43.3413 Open Map 100
3 Udmurt Selkup:Average 24.9753 Open Map 100

So they are someway in the middle? Which is quite logical.