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Winterwolf
05-12-2011, 11:07 AM
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With an arbitrary decision against the existing flag order Bundestag President Norbert Lammert has replaced one of the four prescribed black-red-golden flags on the Berlin Reichstag, who was once dedicated "the German people" with an EU flag.
Explicitly the current operating procedures of the Federal Republic of Germany demand that the federal or federal service flag has to be hoisted upon the political and military premises.
The relevant regulation will soon be adapted by the federal administration, bypassing the Parliament. This procedure is contrary to all protocols, but those will be adapted in the future in order to ensure the eurocratic solo run of Lammert.

Following these news most online editions of major daily newspapers blocked the comments function summarily, to most papers this scandalous case of obvious challenge of the sovereignty of the Berlin Parliament is not even worth a side note. Nevertheless, several publications reported in almost the same tenor, irrespective of their political orientation.

Apart from entirely angry reader comments parts of the press complained about the sheer audacity of the Bundestag President concerning his disregard of existing regulations and rules by winding up a piece of cloth that symbolizes neither a state, let alone a nation, and certainly not a democratically legitimated power construct. Lammert wanted to demonstrate the "solidarity of the Bundestag to Europe".

Criticism of loss of sovereignty even by the "Red Flag" magazine.

It’s worthwhile to look more closely at this formulation, if not to take it with a pinch of salt.
That the Bundestag has deteriorated into a mere staunch vassal of the EU bureaucracy monster is nothing new, after all 84 % of all laws and legislative tasks don’t originate from Berlin, but from Brussels and Strasbourg.

Intentionally Lammert doesn’t speak of the German people, but only of the parliamentarians, the political caste of Germany, which is decoupled from the people by lobbying for their globalist fantasies.

Even the communist "Red Flag" seconds the choir of countless conservative readers, that the EU project was not decided by the people in self-determination. It’s no secret that the majority of Germans and Europeans fundamentally reject the EU project, as it became obvious in several recent plebiscites f.e. in France, the Netherlands and Ireland.

For one, because the opaque bureaucracy is simply incomprehensible and wastes oodles of tax payer’s money for bankrupt countries, while the supposed advantage of the pseudo-federal countries conglomerate is not clear to the citizen. On the other hand there are no credible explanations for absurd EU howlers like regulations about the size and degree of curvature of bananas or intervals of umbrellas in beer gardens, not to mention the apparently more and more common cash-injections, bail-outs and financial-aid programs against the paragraphs of the European treaties for collapsing economies on the periphery.

Disclosure of the issue of power

Now, one may think of the EU what one wants, and should also bear in mind that it was neither created as administrative machinery nor as a pure economic space in the beginning. Nevertheless, one has to get angry about this blatant insolence, because Lammert and his followers have shown who the real rulers are and that quite simply and visible to everyone.
Therefore his formulation which decouples the Bundestag from the people is just nothing more than putting the sour cherry on the cake.

The ruling class committed an incomprehensible act of audacity against their own people, what they probably don’t perceive as such any longer anyway as it was shown openly and bluntly by demonstrating who exercises the real power over Germany and over the once free nations of Europe.
The people as alleged sovereign dispute the political class with sheer contempt. This is symbolized now with winding up the ragged shreds.

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The Lawspeaker
06-02-2011, 11:56 AM
In the Reichstag the German flag should fly next to the flags of the Länder -- and a EU flag as Germany is a member-state but the EU flag should never replace the German flag. But this sounds like a propaganda article to me.

http://www.graydon.co.uk/media/74605/eu-german-flags.jpg

http://www.aedesnet.nl/binaries/beeld/2010/logo-s/vlag_euennl_klein.jpg
Side by side. Like this:

http://staytondailyphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Oregon-USA-1024.jpg

Breedingvariety
06-02-2011, 12:20 PM
This is a death by thousand cuts. Slowly but surely, they are moving towards their New World Order.

Karl der Große
06-02-2011, 12:21 PM
With an arbitrary decision against the existing flag order Bundestag President Norbert Lammert has replaced one of the four prescribed black-red-golden flags on the Berlin Reichstag, who was once dedicated "the German people" with an EU flag.

The black-red-gold flag never represented the German people at all in an applicable blood and soil meaning. This flag has a history of liberal inheritance rather influenced by French enlightenment with a hint of German romanticism a la Goethe.

It was raised for the first time at the Hambach Festival, a demonstration for freedom and national unity held in 1832. Following the 1918 Revolution, the defenders of the first German republic gathered under the black-red-gold ensign.

These colours have had an official status as a national symbol

* from 1848 to 1866 in the German Confederation,
* from 1919 to 1933 in the Weimar Republic,
* from 1949 to 1990 in the German Democratic Republic and
* since 1949 in the Federal Republic of Germany.

The Lawspeaker
06-02-2011, 12:24 PM
This is a death by thousand cuts. Slowly but surely, they are moving towards their New World Order.
LOL. New World Order. So American... We have the same corrupt bankers.. it's an Old World Order. Not a new one.

poiuytrewq0987
06-02-2011, 12:27 PM
Oh no! It's just a flag, get over it.

The Lawspeaker
06-02-2011, 12:29 PM
Oh no! It's just a flag, get over it.
A flag is an important symbol and that's why a flag should never replace the other. It can only be added and even the position in which a flag is placed is very important: one should never place two flags in a vertical position but always side by side. But this is clearly a bullshit article.

poiuytrewq0987
06-02-2011, 12:30 PM
A flag is an important symbol and that's why a flag should never replace the other. It can only be added. But this is clearly a bullshit article.


I know but the article speaks of the incident as if an armageddon was coming.

The Lawspeaker
06-02-2011, 12:33 PM
I know but the article speaks of the incident as if an armageddon was coming.
Yap. I know: that's why it's bullocks. For me it even reinforces the importance of an institution when a Dutch flag is flanked by a EU flag. It means that the institution has official backing.

Breedingvariety
06-02-2011, 12:33 PM
Oh no! It's just a flag, get over it.
People have died for flags. Flags are crucial.

The Lawspeaker
06-02-2011, 12:35 PM
People have died for flags. Flags are crucial.
No.. they actually died for the bankers and industrialists that send them there to die while they could have lived for their country and made it prosper.

Svanhild
06-02-2011, 02:11 PM
Someone should burn that EU flag.

The Lawspeaker
06-02-2011, 02:18 PM
Someone should burn that EU flag.
Someone should do this again before that country makes more mistakes so we sort out the mess their politicians and their banks created:

http://greyfalcon.us/pictures/Deutschland.png

Karl der Große
06-02-2011, 02:50 PM
I'd prefer as national flag the Old Imperial.

http://images.wikia.com/particracy/images/6/60/Flag_of_Dunorfreich.png


Or, Flagge des Deutschen Ordens
– flag of the Teutonic Order
(teutonic knights)

http://images.wikia.com/althistory/images/6/65/TeutonicOrderFlag.gifhttp://euroheritage.net/teutonflag.gif


Also, Flagge des Hochmeisters des Deutschen Ordens
– flag of the grand-master of the Teutonic Order (teutonic knights)

http://euroheritage.net/teutonflag.gif

Breedingvariety
06-02-2011, 02:52 PM
Current flag of Germany is reminder of WW2 defeat.

Svanhild
06-02-2011, 03:59 PM
Someone should do this again before that country makes more mistakes so we sort out the mess their politicians and their banks created:

http://greyfalcon.us/pictures/Deutschland.png
You reach a level to where I don't want to follow you. Too cold in the basement of reasoning.

Winterwolf
06-02-2011, 04:54 PM
In the Reichstag the German flag should fly next to the flags of the Länder -- and a EU flag as Germany is a member-state but the EU flag should never replace the German flag. But this sounds like a propaganda article to me.

Every German ministry and official federal building hoists the EU flag and the German one side by side, only the Reichstag exclusively flies German flags and therefore made it the last refuge of symbolised German sovereignty.

Changing that regulation caused outrage for a reason, because the Reichstag building is special, symbolises the long road towards democracy and the history of the building is also connected with the catastrophe of WW2.
The inscription on the Reichstag reads: DEM DEUTSCHEN VOLKE.

http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/webpages/Reichstag_Dem_Deutschen_Volke_.jpg

The EU doesn't stand for democracy and running up the EU flag just makes it obvious that the political class in Germany is more and more decoupled from the constitutional sovereign, the German people.


The black-red-gold flag [...] has a history of liberal inheritance rather influenced by French enlightenment with a hint of German romanticism a la Goethe.

Please don't lecture me on German history and what this flag symbolises. The colours black-red-golden as they were displayed on the Hambacher Fest symbolised the long wish of the German people to unite and overcome the Kleinstaaterei. It's also an innocent symbol of nationalism, next to modernisation.


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For me it even reinforces the importance of an institution when a Dutch flag is flanked by a EU flag. It means that the institution has official backing.

Interesting that you value the official backing of the Eurocrats higher than the one of the Dutch people, which should be the only sovereign of institutions in your country.



Someone should do this again before that country makes more mistakes so we sort out the mess their politicians and their banks created:

http://greyfalcon.us/pictures/Deutschland.png

Now who’s the radical? Who the fuck gives other peoples the right to decide on German matters?
The problem of Germany has always been that the German question was never a matter of the German people alone. Other nations always thought they’ve got a right to interfere.
Strange that Germans are expected to accept that premise…



I'd prefer as national flag the Old Imperial.

http://images.wikia.com/particracy/images/6/60/Flag_of_Dunorfreich.png

I’m fine with the current one; because it's innocent, but still strong.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Flag_of_Germany_%28unoff%29.svg

From a solely aesthetical point of view I prefer the Reichskriegsflagge.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/War_Ensign_of_Germany_1903-1918.svg

Karl der Große
06-02-2011, 07:31 PM
Please don't lecture me on German history and what this flag symbolises. The colours black-red-golden as they were displayed on the Hambacher Fest symbolised the long wish of the German people to unite and overcome the Kleinstaaterei. It's also an innocent symbol of nationalism, next to modernisation.

Yes, yes, it was not the intention of my comment but I was just adding it out of curiosity since your article didn't it.



I’m fine with the current one; because it's innocent, but still strong.

I like the old imperial flag due it to have been one of my favorites period of German's history. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Kaiserreich
Period when the Germans knew how to be good snobs. I like it from a personal aesthetical point of view.



From a solely aesthetical point of view I prefer the Reichskriegsflagge.

Yeah it has a very aggressive look though. :thumbs up *hugs*