How closely related genetically are Berbers to people of the Arabian Peninsula and Levant?

[Sikeliot]

I would imagine a significant portion of their ancestry descends from a common proto-Afroasiatic source in the southern Levant/northern Arabia.

[Tauromachos]

Not close

[rein]

Yes.

[Phenix]

The closest possible.

[Marmara]

Depends on the Berber i guess, they are very mixed.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Berbers are not very mixed in the sense of being a heterogeneous population. They have their own cluster and differences between Moroccans, Algerians and Tunisian Berbers are minimal so they are pretty homogeneous. They are genetically closer to Libyans and Egyptians (who plot in-between Berber nations and the Levant), followed by Levantines.

[Tauromachos]

I guess Berbers are not closer to Peninsular Arabians than Mainland Greeks are to Greek Islanders,for sure

And probably not closer than Mainland Greeks are to Cypriots.

Why should they?

Jesus give me a break

[Sikeliot]

Berbers are not very mixed in the sense of being a heterogeneous population. They have their own cluster and differences between Moroccans, Algerians and Tunisian Berbers are minimal so they are pretty homogeneous. They are genetically closer to Libyans and Egyptians (who plot in-between Berber nations and the Levant), followed by Levantines.

Depends on the country. Tunisians are closer to Levantines than Moroccans would be. This is a Tunisian:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.49
2 West_Med 22.05
3 Red_Sea 14.27
4 Atlantic 13.32
5 Sub-Saharan 7.93
6 Northeast_African 7.93
7 West_Asian 3.6
8 North_Sea 2.32
9 Baltic 0.94
10 Southeast_Asian 0.36
11 Eastern_Euro 0.31
12 Amerindian 0.25
13 Siberian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tunisian 5.26
2 Algerian 7.12
3 Mozabite_Berber 8.08
4 Moroccan 9.16
5 Algerian_Jewish 15.08
6 Tunisian_Jewish 17.06
7 Italian_Jewish 17.14
8 Sephardic_Jewish 17.16
9 Libyan_Jewish 17.41
10 West_Sicilian 17.98
11 East_Sicilian 18.67
12 Ashkenazi 18.98
13 Egyptian 18.99
14 South_Italian 19.49
15 Central_Greek 21.03
16 Italian_Abruzzo 21.35
17 Tuscan 21.49
18 Bedouin 22.26
19 Greek 22.83
20 Greek_Thessaly 23.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.4% Mozabite_Berber + 31.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.7
2 65.6% Mozabite_Berber + 34.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.95
3 68.6% Mozabite_Berber + 31.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.12
4 68.9% Mozabite_Berber + 31.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.71
5 71.9% Mozabite_Berber + 28.1% South_Italian @ 2.93
6 83% Tunisian + 17% Tuscan @ 2.94
7 80.5% Tunisian + 19.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.04
8 83.5% Tunisian + 16.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.2
9 85.7% Tunisian + 14.3% North_Italian @ 3.2
10 82.2% Tunisian + 17.8% South_Italian @ 3.23
11 81.8% Tunisian + 18.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.3
12 76.1% Mozabite_Berber + 23.9% Cyprian @ 3.31
13 88.3% Tunisian + 11.7% Sardinian @ 3.34
14 83.6% Tunisian + 16.4% Central_Greek @ 3.35
15 80.7% Tunisian + 19.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.39
16 70.7% Mozabite_Berber + 29.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.44
17 71.5% Mozabite_Berber + 28.5% East_Sicilian @ 3.47
18 78.9% Tunisian + 21.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.5
19 81.1% Tunisian + 18.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.5
20 87.9% Tunisian + 12.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.54

[Tauromachos]

Depends on the country. Tunisians are closer to Levantines than Moroccans would be. This is a Tunisian:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.49
2 West_Med 22.05
3 Red_Sea 14.27
4 Atlantic 13.32
5 Sub-Saharan 7.93
6 Northeast_African 7.93
7 West_Asian 3.6
8 North_Sea 2.32
9 Baltic 0.94
10 Southeast_Asian 0.36
11 Eastern_Euro 0.31
12 Amerindian 0.25
13 Siberian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tunisian 5.26
2 Algerian 7.12
3 Mozabite_Berber 8.08
4 Moroccan 9.16
5 Algerian_Jewish 15.08
6 Tunisian_Jewish 17.06
7 Italian_Jewish 17.14
8 Sephardic_Jewish 17.16
9 Libyan_Jewish 17.41
10 West_Sicilian 17.98
11 East_Sicilian 18.67
12 Ashkenazi 18.98
13 Egyptian 18.99
14 South_Italian 19.49
15 Central_Greek 21.03
16 Italian_Abruzzo 21.35
17 Tuscan 21.49
18 Bedouin 22.26
19 Greek 22.83
20 Greek_Thessaly 23.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.4% Mozabite_Berber + 31.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.7
2 65.6% Mozabite_Berber + 34.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.95
3 68.6% Mozabite_Berber + 31.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.12
4 68.9% Mozabite_Berber + 31.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.71
5 71.9% Mozabite_Berber + 28.1% South_Italian @ 2.93
6 83% Tunisian + 17% Tuscan @ 2.94
7 80.5% Tunisian + 19.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.04
8 83.5% Tunisian + 16.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.2
9 85.7% Tunisian + 14.3% North_Italian @ 3.2
10 82.2% Tunisian + 17.8% South_Italian @ 3.23
11 81.8% Tunisian + 18.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.3
12 76.1% Mozabite_Berber + 23.9% Cyprian @ 3.31
13 88.3% Tunisian + 11.7% Sardinian @ 3.34
14 83.6% Tunisian + 16.4% Central_Greek @ 3.35
15 80.7% Tunisian + 19.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.39
16 70.7% Mozabite_Berber + 29.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.44
17 71.5% Mozabite_Berber + 28.5% East_Sicilian @ 3.47
18 78.9% Tunisian + 21.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.5
19 81.1% Tunisian + 18.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.5
20 87.9% Tunisian + 12.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.54

Thats because besides Levant the largest Phoenician settlement was in Tunisia

Tunisians are not Berbers

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Depends on the country. Tunisians are closer to Levantines than Moroccans would be. This is a Tunisian

As you said, that is just one Tunisian. You need several samples to measure averages.

Since you used Eurogenes K15 run here is the K15 PCA:


https://i.postimg.cc/xT92PsM3/K15V4.jpg


Like I said, they have their own cluster and they are pretty homogeneous for a population that covers such a huge landmass. The Levant is a smaller region and more heterogeneous. Tunisians seem to be slightly more Levant shifted by a minimal margin.

[Iẓeḍwan n Nanna-Tuda]

Ancient Berbers (Neolithic) already had an important Arabian-like component :

https://i.imgur.com/Paveq8m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7aBC5R4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zpAT4DS.jpg