Mr. Wog Ancestry Results!

[Erronkari]

Well, my results are here, with some interesting issues.

I scored Portugal, which sounds accurate, judging my first surname is portuguese, even though the amount is too low... but others haven't detected nothing portuguese, so we are improving.

Which is rare is I don't find any migration route to the new world or inner Europe... but well... it's a very nice calculator anyway!

And if we consider as whole, most % are quite coincident between Ancestry, 23andme and FTDNA. ;)

https://i.imgur.com/7RpIe64.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Interesting results. Where would the 4% Amerindian come from?

[Erronkari]

Interesting results. Where would the 4% Amerindian come from?

Thank you friend! It's my only colonial side of the family (my mother's grandma). The rest of the family comes from immigrants totally!

[Myanthropologies]

Very beautiful results :). Thanks for sharing! You should do gedmatch soon!

[GreentheViper]

Cool results man!

[Daco Celtic]

Very cool. Even some English influence.

[Erronkari]

Very beautiful results :). Thanks for sharing! You should do gedmatch soon!

Thank you bro. I did it by my FTDNA, even though, I did it too by this Raw too see if it shows some differences, however they are not ready yet, so we'll wait. ;)

[Erronkari]

Thank you mates! ;)
Yes, it sounds interesting that britt side!

[Morena]

Nice. Those are good results. ^_^

[Erronkari]

Interesting results. Where would the 4% Amerindian come from?

Tooting, I haven't see in Ancestry any refined location of our native side.
According 23andme it would come from Argentina and México... so... two different locations by 3 - 4%... (?)
Really curious!

Here's my 23andme:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?260714-Mr-Wog-23andme-results (in the last part of the thread you can see this)

[Erronkari]

Thank you Osric!

[HelloGuys]

Cool, a white argentinian

de que parte de su familia viene el norafricano?

[Erronkari]

Cool, a white argentinian

de que parte de su familia viene el norafricano?

Hola amigo! Gusto saludarte. ;)
Pienso yo que es algo que se coló del lado ibérico no vasco, ya que la parte vasca suele ser más endémica, pero genéticamente siempre puede haber sorpresas jeje.

[Rædwald]

You scored same Native American North, Central, South 3% same as me. Although mine went up from 2% to 3% with the Update, have you done any other tests?

[Erronkari]

You scored same Native American North, Central, South 3% same as me. Although mine went up from 2% to 3% with the Update, have you done any other tests?

For the similar native american % between you and me I allways thought you are a nordic version of me or I am a wog version of you... hehe... just kidding (and really I score 1% more than you really). ;)

Well... 23andme gave me 2.8% native american and FTDNA the same 4% of this.
In Gedmatch Eurogeneses I scored 3,89 in 13K, 3.83 in 15K and 3.61 in 36K.
And in MDLP similar results.
Did you score similar results by other tests??

[Erronkari]

You scored same Native American North, Central, South 3% same as me. Although mine went up from 2% to 3% with the Update, have you done any other tests?

Oh, I forgot, I scored 3.4% in DNA LAND and 3.55 in 24 Genetics.
Finally 2.1% in My Heritage.

[Rædwald]

For the similar native american % between you and me I allways thought you are a nordic version of me or I am a wog version of you... hehe... just kidding (and really I score 1% more than you really). ;)

Well... 23andme gave me 2.8% native american and FTDNA the same 4% of this.
In Gedmatch Eurogeneses I scored 3,89 in 13K, 3.83 in 15K and 3.61 in 36K.
And in MDLP similar results.
Did you score similar results by other tests??

Eurogenes K13
Amerindian 2.96

Eurogenes K15
Amerindian 2.44

Eurogenes K36
Amerindian 1.78

I scored 1.6% in DNALAND, and I have a 23andMe test in progress so I'll be interested to see my results from that.

[Erronkari]

Eurogenes K13
Amerindian 2.96

Eurogenes K15
Amerindian 2.44

Eurogenes K36
Amerindian 1.78

I scored 1.6% in DNALAND, and I have a 23andMe test in progress so I'll be interested to see my results from that.

Excellent! 23andme is quite accurate regarding native ancestry... I hope your results will come soon! :thumb001:
This are my results there if you like to see them.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?260714-Mr-Wog-23andme-results

[Zuh]

Very beautiful results :). Thanks for sharing! You should do gedmatch soon!

Why beautiful because he's White? So according to the logic once I post my rainbow results well be ugly because I'm mixed race?

[Zuh]

Post Gedmatch Mr wog

[Myanthropologies]

Why beautiful because he's White? So according to the logic once I post my rainbow results well be ugly because I'm mixed race?

No, everyone's results are beautiful :).

[Zuh]

No, everyone's results are beautiful :).

Your post makes me think humanity still exist<3

[Erronkari]

Haha indeed, the most interesting test in my opinion was Yemeni's one, and he is uber mixed. ;)
Exactly, all tests are very interesting and many times surprising.
I still waiting for gedmatch, I hope they'll be ready soon. :thumb001:

[Marco94]

Cool results, compatriot!

You’re an insular Iberian surrounded by Italians in your area lol

[El_Abominacion]

Most Basque I have ever seen

[Erronkari]

Cool results, compatriot!

You’re an insular Iberian surrounded by Italians in your area lol

Thank you! :D
Haha yes! :p
Many basques arrive in my little town, but you are right, piedmont italians and valaisian swiss were more numerous. ;)

[Erronkari]

Most Basque I have ever seen

Unhappily I haven't seen another test of any basque people or basque descendants by Ancestry.
I hope they will appear soon to compare. ;)

[Erronkari]

Voici le Gedmatch! ;)

K36
Population
Amerindian3.92 Pct
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque22.71 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro1.24 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan2.39 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro-
East_Med0.22 Pct
Eastern_Euro-
Fennoscandian1.19 Pct
French3.89 Pct
Iberian25.44 Pct
Indo-Chinese0.19 Pct
Italian12.48 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern2.76 Pct
North_African0.42 Pct
North_Atlantic11.35 Pct
North_Caucasian0.29 Pct
North_Sea2.16 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian0.20 Pct
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian1.12 Pct
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med8.03 Pct


K15

Population
Percent1Atlantic36.83
2West_Med25.77
3North_Sea18.77
4East_Med7.06
5Amerindian4.11
6West_Asian2.24
7Eastern_Euro1.94
8Southeast_Asian0.75
9South_Asian0.7
10Sub-Saharan0.63
11Oceanian0.48
12Red_Sea0.39
13Baltic0.33


Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Spanish_Aragon7.59
2Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha8.6
3Spanish_Cantabria8.75
4Spanish_Valencia9.46
5Southwest_French9.75
6Spanish_Andalucia10.05
7French_Basque10.62
8Spanish_Murcia10.79
9Spanish_Extremadura11.57
10Spanish_Cataluna11.58
11Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon11.62
12Portuguese12.78
13Spanish_Galicia14.43
14North_Italian16.88
15French18.17
16South_Dutch21.91
17Tuscan22.31
18Southwest_English23.56
19Southeast_English24.74
20West_German25.31


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance196.9%Spanish_Aragon+3.1%Karitiana @6.482
96.5%Spanish_Aragon+3.5%Mayan@6.523
96.7%Spanish_Aragon+3.3%Anzick1@6.534
96.6%Spanish_Aragon+3.4%Pima@6.555
96.4%Spanish_Aragon+3.6%North_Amerindian@6.776
50.7%French_Basque+49.3%Spanish_Murcia@6.987
53.6%French_Basque+46.4%Spanish_Extremadura@7.068
74.1%Spanish_Aragon+25.9%French_Basque@7.069
62.1%Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+37.9%French_Basque @7.1410
57.5%French_Basque+42.5%Portuguese@7.1711
97.4%Spanish_Aragon+2.6%East_Greenlander@7.2912
61.5%Spanish_Cantabria+38.5%French_Basque@7.2913
52.8%Spanish_Andalucia+47.2%French_Basque@7.3614
97.5%Spanish_Aragon+2.5%West_Greenlander@7.3815
56.5%Spanish_Valencia+43.5%French_Basque@7.4516
66.7%French_Basque+33.3%North_Italian@7.4517
62.1%French_Basque+37.9%Spanish_Galicia@7.518
99%Spanish_Aragon+1%Chukchi@7.5419
97.3%Spanish_Aragon+2.7%Sardinian@7.5520
99.2%Spanish_Aragon+0.8%MA-1@7.57

[Catarinense1998]

This result makes a lot of sense, since you look quite iberian. You dont have score any italian, what I find curious, because the italian heritage in Argentina is very overrated. As always, congrats!!

[Marco94]

This result makes a lot of sense, since you look quite iberian. You dont have score any italian, what I find curious, because the italian heritage in Argentina is very overrated. As always, congrats!!

His paternal grandma is Tuscan, so it's really strange that he doesn't score any Italian.

Well, not all Argentinians are Italian descendants, and even those who are Italian descendants can score little Italian, especially those who are of Northern Italian descent.

That said, the studies posted by Argentano show that Argentina scores a lot of Italian, especially those on the 80-100% Euro range.

[Erronkari]

This result makes a lot of sense, since you look quite iberian. You dont have score any italian, what I find curious, because the italian heritage in Argentina is very overrated. As always, congrats!!

Thank you friend!

I have some italian but it's really low at the point this calc didn't recognize it hehe.
My grandma was from Pisa but, she came by majority spanish ancestry.
Well... Argentano say exactly which you said now.
Italian contribution is important but not as many people repeat that it's absolutely the majority and the spanish is only a little, that's false for sure... ;)

[Catarinense1998]

His paternal grandma is Tuscan, so it's really strange that he doesn't score any Italian.

Well, not all Argentinians are Italian descendants, and even those who are Italian descendants can score little Italian, especially those who are of Northern Italian descent.

That said, the studies posted by Argentano show that Argentina scores a lot of Italian, especially those on the 80-100% Euro range.

Yes. But, people usually forget the spanish imput and overrate the italian imput. Argentina took to many galicians and basques that people can not ignore it.

[Lucas]

https://i.imgur.com/7RpIe64.jpg

British is real?

[Erronkari]

British is real?

Unhappily I doubt it, because I don't have any record of that by my family and it would really interesting... but I really ignore if we have some britt ancestry... :(

[Sp_loa]

I waited to see your results!
I think 23andme was a bit more accurate for you because it showed your Italian heritage.
Very cool anyway! Congrats. I just received the 23andme kit that I ordered for my grandma waiting to send it back and get the results haha.

[Erronkari]

I waited to see your results!
I think 23andme was a bit more accurate for you because it showed your Italian heritage.
Very cool anyway! Congrats. I just received the 23andme kit that I ordered for my grandma waiting to send it back and get the results haha.

Excellent friend! I hope you will recive them soon! :D

[Marco94]

Yes. But, people usually forget the spanish imput and overrate the italian imput. Argentina took to many galicians and basques that people can not ignore it.

That’s right! The distinctiveness of Argentina for having a large non-Spanish input compared to Latin America makes people neglect or forget about the large Galician and Basque component.

[Erronkari]

That’s right! The distinctiveness of Argentina for having a large non-Spanish input compared to Latin America makes people neglect or forget about the large Galician and Basque component.

Good point... because I don't consider that I look atypical or uncommon here (in BA and other medium/big cities).
Never in my life anybody asked me if I wasn't from here or told me I used to look foreigner... :confused:

[Marco94]

Good point... because I don't consider that I look atypical or uncommon here (in BA and other medium/big cities).
Never in my life anybody asked me if I wasn't from here or told me I used to look foreigner... :confused:

In the end, both major groups are Southern European (Italian and Iberian), so of course it’s hard to tell if someone is exclusively of Iberian or Italian descent, as both ethnicities overlap a lot. You’ll certainly be typical in the country.

It would be a different story if both major groups were, say, Swedish and Iberian.

[Erronkari]

In the end, both major groups are Southern European (Italian and Iberian), so of course it’s hard to tell if someone is exclusively of Iberian or Italian descent, as both ethnicities overlap a lot. You’ll certainly be typical in the country.

It would be a different story if both major groups were, say, Swedish and Iberian.

That's true, too! The difference between med types is not huge, of course, and that's another point many people ignore. Totally agree! ;)

[Erronkari]

In the end, both major groups are Southern European (Italian and Iberian), so of course it’s hard to tell if someone is exclusively of Iberian or Italian descent, as both ethnicities overlap a lot. You’ll certainly be typical in the country.

It would be a different story if both major groups were, say, Swedish and Iberian.

Oh, and I forgot that many times it's almost impossible to guess if any person is spanish or italian ancestry (or combinated which is uber common).
Indeed many times happened that I felt surprised to know that a person had an ancestry which I didn't imagine...

[RMuller]

Voici le Gedmatch! ;)

K36
Population
Amerindian3.92 Pct
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque22.71 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro1.24 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan2.39 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro-
East_Med0.22 Pct
Eastern_Euro-
Fennoscandian1.19 Pct
French3.89 Pct
Iberian25.44 Pct
Indo-Chinese0.19 Pct
Italian12.48 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern2.76 Pct
North_African0.42 Pct
North_Atlantic11.35 Pct
North_Caucasian0.29 Pct
North_Sea2.16 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian0.20 Pct
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian1.12 Pct
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med8.03 Pct


K15

Population
Percent1Atlantic36.83
2West_Med25.77
3North_Sea18.77
4East_Med7.06
5Amerindian4.11
6West_Asian2.24
7Eastern_Euro1.94
8Southeast_Asian0.75
9South_Asian0.7
10Sub-Saharan0.63
11Oceanian0.48
12Red_Sea0.39
13Baltic0.33


Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Spanish_Aragon7.59
2Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha8.6
3Spanish_Cantabria8.75
4Spanish_Valencia9.46
5Southwest_French9.75
6Spanish_Andalucia10.05
7French_Basque10.62
8Spanish_Murcia10.79
9Spanish_Extremadura11.57
10Spanish_Cataluna11.58
11Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon11.62
12Portuguese12.78
13Spanish_Galicia14.43
14North_Italian16.88
15French18.17
16South_Dutch21.91
17Tuscan22.31
18Southwest_English23.56
19Southeast_English24.74
20West_German25.31


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance196.9%Spanish_Aragon+3.1%Karitiana @6.482
96.5%Spanish_Aragon+3.5%Mayan@6.523
96.7%Spanish_Aragon+3.3%Anzick1@6.534
96.6%Spanish_Aragon+3.4%Pima@6.555
96.4%Spanish_Aragon+3.6%North_Amerindian@6.776
50.7%French_Basque+49.3%Spanish_Murcia@6.987
53.6%French_Basque+46.4%Spanish_Extremadura@7.068
74.1%Spanish_Aragon+25.9%French_Basque@7.069
62.1%Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+37.9%French_Basque @7.1410
57.5%French_Basque+42.5%Portuguese@7.1711
97.4%Spanish_Aragon+2.6%East_Greenlander@7.2912
61.5%Spanish_Cantabria+38.5%French_Basque@7.2913
52.8%Spanish_Andalucia+47.2%French_Basque@7.3614
97.5%Spanish_Aragon+2.5%West_Greenlander@7.3815
56.5%Spanish_Valencia+43.5%French_Basque@7.4516
66.7%French_Basque+33.3%North_Italian@7.4517
62.1%French_Basque+37.9%Spanish_Galicia@7.518
99%Spanish_Aragon+1%Chukchi@7.5419
97.3%Spanish_Aragon+2.7%Sardinian@7.5520
99.2%Spanish_Aragon+0.8%MA-1@7.57

Do mixed Argentinians in the mix mode also get Amerindian from Mexico or Southwest USA Amerindian ?

[Erronkari]

Do mixed Argentinians in the mix mode also get Amerindian from Mexico or Southwest USA Amerindian ?

It's a good question... probably they do too... may be there is a lack of south-american samples in Gedmatch... idk...

[RMuller]

It's a good question...

Ask Argentano or you can investigate.

[Erronkari]

Ask Argentano or you can investigate.

I don't know anyone "mixed" in the properly term with DNA exam as I remember, but I know many in the 80/20 spectrum (the bulk of our population is +80 and -98 so that average is totally representative).
I'll try to find those kits and I'll give you the information. ;)

[tekken999]

Were both your parents or grandparents recent migrants to Argentina from Basque country?

[Erronkari]

Were both your parents or grandparents recent migrants to Argentina from Basque country?

Yes, they did! :D
Great greatgrandparents of both sides.
Even, ones by my dad's side arrived in Uruguay (my dad was uruguayan).

[tekken999]

Yes, they did! :D
Great greatgrandparents of both sides.
Even, ones by my dad's side arrived in Uruguay (my dad was uruguayan).
Thats pretty cool! I'm surprised you didn't have any italian since argentina had a large italian migration to the country before. Does you family still keep in contact and communicates with relatives back in spain?

[Leto]

Yes, they did! :D
Great greatgrandparents of both sides.
Even, ones by my dad's side arrived in Uruguay (my dad was uruguayan).
Great-great-grandparents is not recent to me. You can look Swedish and be 1/16 Nigerian by descent.

[Erronkari]

Thats pretty cool! I'm surprised you didn't have any italian since argentina had a large italian migration to the country before. Does you family still keep in contact and communicates with relatives back in spain?

Well... I have some italian ancestors.
But which is really crazy is that they had spanish ancestry too hehe.
23andme gives me some italian, but it's just a tiny residual (1.3%).
Some relatives of mine say that those spaniards who came to Italy were converted sephardic jews.
Which is crazy is that none of calculators show any "jew".
Another chance is that may be regular Iberians converted to the judaism many centuries ago and re-converted many generations after.
It sounds crazy and hilarious... but who knows which is the truth... :p
About "basques", I am in touch with some of them in Basque area, spanish and french ones.
Even though, they are disctant cousins, but our relation is very good!
I'll show you the link of my 23andme, if you like to see it, also there you can see my ancestry timeline. :D

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?260714-Mr-Wog-23andme-results

[Erronkari]

Great-great-grandparents is not recent to me. You can look Swedish and be 1/16 Nigerian by descent.

Hummm... I think I mistaken the terms.
My maternal granpa' s parents were basques.
Same case of my granny's dad.
And a half of my dad's family becomes of basque ancestry.
As recent I mean the bulk of my family doesn't come of colonial ancestry. ;)

[Tenma de Pegasus]

How they differenciate Spain from Portugal in those tests?

[Argentano]

Mr Wog i just checked your gedmatch kit. You have a lot of argentine cousins. You just see mexicans too because gedmatch is full of mexican americans

Your result is not atypical for argentines

PLUS you already know 23andme guessed your native as Argentine

[Erronkari]

How they differenciate Spain from Portugal in those tests?

Indeed I think they don't differenciate very well hehe.
I saw that many times they have several problems to differenciate portuguese and galicians.
And our mate Viriato said that mistake was very common, even in Gedmatch.

[Erronkari]

Edited.

[Erronkari]

Mr Wog i just checked your gedmatch kit. You have a lot of argentine cousins. You just see mexicans too because gedmatch is full of mexican americans

Your result is not atypical for argentines

PLUS you already know 23andme guessed your native as Argentine

Wow! Really???
That's wonderful! :thumb001:

[Erronkari]

Mr Wog i just checked your gedmatch kit. You have a lot of argentine cousins. You just see mexicans too because gedmatch is full of mexican americans

Your result is not atypical for argentines

PLUS you already know 23andme guessed your native as Argentine

It guessed Argentina in the first place, yes...
But after México, Perú and Cuba.
For 2.5/4% of native it sounds unreliable that list of countries. :p

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Indeed I think they don't differenciate very well hehe.
I saw that many times they have several problems to differenciate portuguese and galicians.
And our mate Viriato said that mistake was very common, even in Gedmatch.

Yep, Im impressed. How they know what is portuguese dna and spanish dna if its basically the same sources with very similar proportions. Maybe they just look if the client is from Hispanic America or Lusitanic America.

[tekken999]

Well... I have some italian ancestors.
But which is really crazy is that they had spanish ancestry too hehe.
23andme gives me some italian, but it's just a tiny residual (1.3%).
Some relatives of mine say that those spaniards who came to Italy were converted sephardic jews.
Which is crazy is that none of calculators show any "jew".
Another chance is that may be regular Iberians converted to the judaism many centuries ago and re-converted many generations after.
It sounds crazy and hilarious... but who knows which is the truth... :p
About "basques", I am in touch with some of them in Basque area, spanish and french ones.
Even though, they are disctant cousins, but our relation is very good!
I'll show you the link of my 23andme, if you like to see it, also there you can see my ancestry timeline. :D

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?260714-Mr-Wog-23andme-results

Hmm, I wonder if shepardic jews would be tested and put under the ashkenazi jew ancestry group in 23andme. I don't know much about the jewish genetics but I think they might be genetically different from ashkenazi jews and are classified in another group for 23andme but I'm definitely not sure about that.
It's lucky however that you still are in contact with relatives from europe as many of the spanish that came to latin america typically lost contact with their family back in spain so that's pretty cool to see! It makes sense in your case since your ancestry is more recent and the timeline def matches with your family's background too.

In my case, my timeline gives me a strange prediction because it says my most recent spanish relative was born between 1870 and 1930(grandparent, great-grandparent or second great-grandparent) however no one in my family has an such relative that was born in spain and came to puerto rico so recent. It also says that we have nigerian relative more recent than my native american ancestry which is funny because it puts my nigerian ancestry to 1.1% and my native american ancestry at around 13% on 23andme so the timeline on 23andme is kind of strange.
https://i.imgur.com/zAtnkp4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Unnscgp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fKxzIxw.png

https://i.imgur.com/BgmMLzn.jpg

[tekken999]

Yep, Im impressed. How they know what is portuguese dna and spanish dna if its basically the same sources with very similar proportions. Maybe they just look if the client is from Hispanic America or Lusitanic America.

Apparently 23andme can tell with the reference samples they have and that's true even for the native american populations within the Caribbeans which are genetically different. 23andme predicted correctly that my taino ancestry(caribbean native americans) came from puerto rico as opposed to cuba or dominican republic and there's no way they would know that I'm puerto rican based on my name or location. in the case of ancestrydna, it sucks because it gives me more portuguese than spanish for my european background even though my family is puerto rican and we have no such portuguese relatives in our family background.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Apparently 23andme can tell with the reference samples they have and that's true even for the native american populations within the Caribbeans which are genetically different. 23andme predicted correctly that my taino ancestry(caribbean native americans) came from puerto rico as opposed to cuba or dominican republic and there's no way they would know that I'm puerto rican based on my name or location. in the case of ancestrydna, it sucks because it gives me more portuguese than spanish for my european background even though my family is puerto rican and we have no such portuguese relatives in our family background.

That crazy, maybe they thought you are brazilian.

[Erronkari]

Hmm, I wonder if shepardic jews would be tested and put under the ashkenazi jew ancestry group in 23andme. I don't know much about the jewish genetics but I think they might be genetically different from ashkenazi jews and are classified in another group for 23andme but I'm definitely not sure about that.
It's lucky however that you still are in contact with relatives from europe as many of the spanish that came to latin america typically lost contact with their family back in spain so that's pretty cool to see! It makes sense in your case since your ancestry is more recent and the timeline def matches with your family's background too.

In my case, my timeline gives me a strange prediction because it says my most recent spanish relative was born between 1870 and 1930(grandparent, great-grandparent or second great-grandparent) however no one in my family has an such relative that was born in spain and came to puerto rico so recent. It also says that we have nigerian relative more recent than my native american ancestry which is funny because it puts my nigerian ancestry to 1.1% and my native american ancestry at around 13% on 23andme so the timeline on 23andme is kind of strange.
https://i.imgur.com/zAtnkp4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Unnscgp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fKxzIxw.png

https://i.imgur.com/BgmMLzn.jpg

Hummm... It's very interesting. Probably in your case, some of your great-grandparents came from a family that used to marry only among Iberians.
It's not something easy to mind but it's perfectly possible in my opinion.
Although It's true that the timeline is something hypothetical, because it's a prediction...
About the nigerian, yes... sounds rare that you have a more recent ancestor of that origin than a Taino one...
And another weird aspect is that you have more ancient senegambians ancestors than nigerians and ghanaians, liberians and sierra-leonans... sounds rare...
But I think that they will improve that timeline in the future. ;)
Finally I imagine that North-African would comes from canarians.... could be?
It's interesting that I have some canarian DNA relatives and I am in contact with some of them.

[tekken999]

That crazy, maybe they thought you are brazilian.
Actually it predicted me correctly to be puerto rican haha.

https://i.imgur.com/r6CSq3A.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UJVzb1e.jpg



I saw another cousin of mine on facebook post how she got more portuguese than spanish on ancestrydna like me and now she thinks we have recent portuguese ancestry in our family lol :rolleyes:

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Actually it predicted me correctly to be puerto rican haha.

https://i.imgur.com/r6CSq3A.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UJVzb1e.jpg



I saw another cousin of mine on facebook post how she got more portuguese than spanish on ancestrydna like me and now she thinks we have recent portuguese ancestry in our family lol :rolleyes:

Its probably galician instead

[alnortedelsur]

Very cool results. Congratulations bro :)

[Erronkari]

Apparently 23andme can tell with the reference samples they have and that's true even for the native american populations within the Caribbeans which are genetically different. 23andme predicted correctly that my taino ancestry(caribbean native americans) came from puerto rico as opposed to cuba or dominican republic and there's no way they would know that I'm puerto rican based on my name or location. in the case of ancestrydna, it sucks because it gives me more portuguese than spanish for my european background even though my family is puerto rican and we have no such portuguese relatives in our family background.

Indeed 23andme it's quite accurate about native populations, they guessed "Argentina" since the first time.
And I didn't put my address, because they don't send here, and nor mention my ethnicity.
And they predicted fine... really interesting.
But after for any reason they added México, Perú and Cuba...

[Erronkari]

Actually it predicted me correctly to be puerto rican haha.

https://i.imgur.com/r6CSq3A.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UJVzb1e.jpg



I saw another cousin of mine on facebook post how she got more portuguese than spanish on ancestrydna like me and now she thinks we have recent portuguese ancestry in our family lol :rolleyes:

Ancestry didn't predicted nothing to me... boo... :(

[tekken999]

Its probably galician instead
possibly, my mother's surname is a common galician surname "otero" from what i googled online and gedmatch oracle groups me and her gedmatch kits with galicians as the most approximately close group so that is one possible explanation.

[Erronkari]

possibly, my mother's surname is a common galician surname "otero" from what i googled online and gedmatch oracle groups me and her gedmatch kits with galicians as the most approximately close group so that is one possible explanation.

That surname is quite common here. :eek:
Most of spanish immigrants who settled here in the most important immigration period were galicians.
Probably asturians in second place and basques in third.

[alnortedelsur]

Ancestry didn't predicted nothing to me... boo... :(

It didn't predicted immigration routes on mine either :(, though it did it on my sister's results.

[Erronkari]

It didn't predicted immigration routes on mine either :(, though it did it on my sister's results.

Really rare my friend...
May be we should change any option or add another service???
I don't understand that difference among the users... :confused:

[alnortedelsur]

Really rare my friend...
May be we should change any option or add another service???
I don't understand that difference among the users... :confused:

In my case I'm fine with my sister' predictions, since she is my full sister, and those predictions for her are valid for me as well.

[tekken999]

Hummm... It's very interesting. Probably in your case, some of your great-grandparents came from a family that used to marry only among Iberians.
It's not something easy to mind but it's perfectly possible in my opinion.
Although It's true that the timeline is something hypothetical, because it's a prediction...
About the nigerian, yes... sounds rare that you have a more recent ancestor of that origin than a Taino one...
And another weird aspect is that you have more ancient senegambians ancestors than nigerians and ghanaians, liberians and sierra-leonans... sounds rare...
But I think that they will improve that timeline in the future. ;)
Finally I imagine that North-African would comes from canarians.... could be?
It's interesting that I have some canarian DNA relatives and I am in contact with some of them.

Well, I heard from my dad that his side of the family had a relative that was galician or asturian, somewhere north of spain but it's something that we don't know much about because our family never kept record of our history so there could be that possible answer. Galicians were pretty common migrants to the island also, especially in the central area of the island where my family lives.
The senegambians ancestry comes from the slave trade since many slaves to the new world came from western africa. I think senegal was a common area where slaves were bought and transported to the carribeans.
The north african dna is most likely from the guanche dna in the canary islands who are considered berbers, which I believe many is a fairly common dna in certain parts of the canary islands such as La gomera according to wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanches#cite_note-21
Also guanche dna has also been confirmed to be connected to the islands in the caribbeans and the islands of the canaries such as tenerife. http://www.soitu.es/soitu/2008/10/09/info/1223573146_635959.html

Was Canarian migration common in Argentina? I'm surprised to hear you have some relatives from there

[Erronkari]

In my case I'm fine with my sister' predictions, since she is my full sister, and those predictions for her are valid for me as well.

Unhappily I don't have any brothers/sisters... so.... I think that I am at a dead end..

[Erronkari]

Well, I heard from my dad that his side of the family had a relative that was galician or asturian, somewhere north of spain but it's something that we don't know much about because our family never kept record of our history so there could be that possible answer. Galicians were pretty common migrants to the island also, especially in the central area of the island where my family lives.
The senegambians ancestry comes from the slave trade since many slaves to the new world came from western africa. I think senegal was a common area where slaves were bought and transported to the carribeans.
The north african dna is most likely from the guanche dna in the canary islands who are considered berbers, which I believe many is a fairly common dna in certain parts of the canary islands such as La gomera according to wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanches#cite_note-21
Also guanche dna has also been confirmed to be connected to the islands in the caribbeans and the islands of the canaries such as tenerife. http://www.soitu.es/soitu/2008/10/09/info/1223573146_635959.html

Was Canarian migration common in Argentina? I'm surprised to hear you have some relatives from there

Canarian ancestry is more common in Uruguay.... and my dad was from there.
Although It's a mistery, because the most of my canarians DNA relatives have recent ancestry in mainland Spain.
As I know by my dad side we have basque ancestry, portuguese and the italian (of spanish origin I told you)... and I'm not sure about others.
But we can find many surprises.
By my maternal side both of grandpa's parents were basques, but it's crazy that my second surname is asturian, not basque (my first is portuguese).
So, people feel surprised when see my DNA results and I mention that my surnames are not of basque ancestry. :p

[alnortedelsur]

Unhappily I don't have any brothers/sisters... so.... I think that I am at a dead end..

Don't worry, the important thing is that you have the main part of your results, and you already know your migration route origins. That feature of Ancestry is just a secondary thing.

[Erronkari]

Well, I heard from my dad that his side of the family had a relative that was galician or asturian, somewhere north of spain but it's something that we don't know much about because our family never kept record of our history so there could be that possible answer. Galicians were pretty common migrants to the island also, especially in the central area of the island where my family lives.
The senegambians ancestry comes from the slave trade since many slaves to the new world came from western africa. I think senegal was a common area where slaves were bought and transported to the carribeans.
The north african dna is most likely from the guanche dna in the canary islands who are considered berbers, which I believe many is a fairly common dna in certain parts of the canary islands such as La gomera according to wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanches#cite_note-21
Also guanche dna has also been confirmed to be connected to the islands in the caribbeans and the islands of the canaries such as tenerife. http://www.soitu.es/soitu/2008/10/09/info/1223573146_635959.html

Was Canarian migration common in Argentina? I'm surprised to hear you have some relatives from there

Oh yes, I have some friends of Aguas Buenas and they told me galician and asturian migration was very important there!

[Erronkari]

Don't worry, the important thing is that you have the main part of your results, and you already know your migration route origins. That feature of Ancestry is just a secondary thing.

Yes, I know, but these exams sometimes show us some new aspects which they were a mistery until know them. ;)

[tekken999]

Oh yes, I have some friends of Aguas Buenas and they told me galician and asturian migration was very important there!

Oh wow, i'm actually familiar with that area, agua buenas is east from the town where my family is from, called naranjito. Very beautiful mountains and landscape in that area!

[Erronkari]

Oh wow, i'm actually familiar with that area, agua buenas is east from the town where my family is from, called naranjito. Very beautiful mountains and landscape in that area!

Very interesting!
And they also told me the weather is more temperate than coasts...

[tekken999]

Very interesting!
And they also told me the weather is more temperate than coasts...
Definitely true! If you go to san juan or ponce, the big coastal cities like those places will be much hotter, I also prefer to stay in the mountain areas when I go visit for that reason. I also think people generally are nicer in the mountain areas than the people in the cities but that's also true for every country you go to.

https://i.imgur.com/tn0dicG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9EbDIJk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/a9nq8qo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ieUWhvD.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgnCR9pb1aM&t=245s

They also filmed scenes in Naranjito for fast 5 in brazil because the downtown area looked like the favelas of Rio de Janeiro lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmm8P0V1W4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYsByRBb7c0

[Erronkari]

Definitely true! If you go to san juan or ponce, the big coastal cities like those places will be much hotter, I also prefer to stay in the mountain areas when I go visit for that reason. I also think people generally are nicer in the mountain areas than the people in the cities but that's also true for every country you go to.

https://i.imgur.com/tn0dicG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9EbDIJk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/a9nq8qo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ieUWhvD.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgnCR9pb1aM&t=245s

They also filmed scenes in Naranjito for fast 5 in brazil because the downtown area looked like the favelas of Rio de Janeiro lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmm8P0V1W4g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYsByRBb7c0

It really seems beautiful!!
I love montainous areas in tropical environments, because normally have an excellent weather.
And usually inhabitants of those areas are very nice people, very humble and friendly.
That happens too in many montainous areas of Central America.
I've lived 13/14 years in Costa Rica (my wife is from there, and my two older sons born there) and I perceived that people of rural areas and especially when they are located in montainous or hillinous environments are really nice, at least the bulk of them.
But of course most people of rural areas or little towns are nicer than ones who live in cities, around the world it's thus, usually. ;)

[Streuner]

Great results :)

[Erronkari]

Great results :)

Thank you! :thumb001: