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Mingle
01-13-2019, 02:05 AM
On Jan. 1, the day he was sworn in as Brazil's new president, conservative Jair Bolsonaro signed an executive order removing LGBT concerns from the government's human rights ministry, apparently affirming his traditional Christian, pro-family views and his rejection of "gender-based ideology."

In his inauguration speech, Bolsonaro, who is strongly anti-socialist, said, “We are going to unite the people, rescue the family, respect religions and our Judeo-Christian tradition, combat gender ideology, conserving our values.”

The executive order that removes LGBT concerns from the ministry did not designate any other government office to address those issues.

Brazil's new Minister of Human Rights, Family and Women is Damares Alves, age 54. She is an evangelical minister who has worked as a legal adviser to the National Congress of Brazil for 20 years. Alves is pro-life.

During her Jan. 2 swearing-in, Alves said, "The State is secular, but this minister is extremely Christian, and because of that, she believes in God's design," as reported in Folha de S. Paulo. She also said, "One of the challenges will be to end the abuse of ideological indoctrination. The ideological indoctrination of children and teenagers in Brazil is over."

In Brazil, she added, "girls will be princesses and boys will be princes."

LGBT activist Symmy Larrat, as reported by AP, is not optimistic about the new government. “The human rights ministry discussed our concerns at a body called Secretariat of Promotion and Defense of Human Rights," she said. "That body just disappeared, just like that. We don’t see any signs there will be any other government infrastructure to handle LGBT issues.”

During the presidential campaign, Bolsonaro said, "God above everything. There is no such thing as a secular state. The state is Christian and the minority will have to change, if they can. The minorities will have to adapt to the position of the majority."

After Bolsonaro's inauguration, President Donald Trump tweeted his congratulations and added, "the U.S.A. is with you!"

Bolsonaro, 63, replied by Twitter, "Dear Mr. President @realDonaldTrump, I truly appreciate your words of encouragement. Together, under God's protection, we shall bring posterity and progress to our people!"



https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/brazils-new-president-eliminates-lgbt-office-first-day-office

Anthony PV
01-13-2019, 02:50 AM
Even if Bolsonaro becomes a genocidal dictator like Hitler and Stalin, the OP would still support him because of that decision. xD

luc2112
01-13-2019, 05:15 AM
After Bolsonaro's inauguration, President Donald Trump tweeted his congratulations and added, "the U.S.A. is with you!"

Bolsonaro, 63, replied by Twitter, "Dear Mr. President @realDonaldTrump, I truly appreciate your words of encouragement. Together, under God's protection, we shall bring posterity and progress to our people!"


Military alliance and collaboration as well.

luc2112
01-13-2019, 05:19 AM
Even if Bolsonaro becomes a genocidal dictator like Hitler and Stalin,

He is conservative only, We are in economic crisis (world crisis 2008). No time for small problems LGBTs.

Dna8
01-13-2019, 05:19 AM
not as fearless as Caesar subjugating the Gauls..

Mingle
01-13-2019, 06:03 AM
He is conservative only, We are in economic crisis (world crisis 2008). No time for small problems LGBTs.

What's your opinion on this?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/brazil-s-president-elect-jair-bolsonaro-may-smother-rainforest-scientists-n940326

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2018/10/brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-promises-exploit-amazon-rain-forest/

Is it exaggerated by the media? Think he'll go through with it? This idea of his really doesn't resonate with me well and I hope it's just talk.

luc2112
01-14-2019, 01:20 AM
What's your opinion on this?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/brazil-s-president-elect-jair-bolsonaro-may-smother-rainforest-scientists-n940326

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2018/10/brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-promises-exploit-amazon-rain-forest/

Is it exaggerated by the media? Think he'll go through with it? This idea of his really doesn't resonate with me well and I hope it's just talk.

Extractions of wood are illegal is what happens in a land without an "owner". New Indian reservations will no longer be allowed (15% of the territory for <1% of the population).These lands belong to the country according to the constitution, the UN law that allows these regions to be autonomous will not be valid here, it's a question of sovereignty.
The reserves will be titled for the Amerindians (Amerindians will be considered Brazilians) and will be allowed extraction of minerals. There is no plan to do deforestation for agricultural land, the objectives are the minerals.

KMack
01-14-2019, 01:50 AM
What's your opinion on this?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/brazil-s-president-elect-jair-bolsonaro-may-smother-rainforest-scientists-n940326

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2018/10/brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-promises-exploit-amazon-rain-forest/

Is it exaggerated by the media? Think he'll go through with it? This idea of his really doesn't resonate with me well and I hope it's just talk.

Can you include content from the article?

luc2112
01-14-2019, 04:39 AM
The government is against this and their respective ONGs of foreign capital:

https://www.dw.com/en/planning-the-worlds-largest-protected-area/a-18271572

On the Amerindian wanting to live his mode is relative (Other people seem to want to decide this), because sold his reservation to a foreign company. The sale was considered illegal by FUNAI (Brazilian governmental protection agency for Indian interests and their culture).

https://www.dw.com/en/brazils-indigenous-people-fight-back-against-bolsonaros-attacks-on-amazon/a-46974782

The title of their land must end with illegal exploiters.

Sacrificed Ram
01-14-2019, 07:41 PM
I never read so a lot of shit, they say there are left wing indoctrination, but this people have brain of peanut. Doesn't exist "land without owner" in Brazil, public lands are owned by Union, it means this lands are owned by all people of Brazil. Amerinds reserves aren't owned by amerinds, they are owned by state and RESERVED to amerinds live. No one cares about 60% of brazilian territory are farms, being 40% of brazilian territory owned by <1 of brazilian population.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pGlvhHHe4E

luc2112
01-15-2019, 04:30 AM
I never read so a lot of shit, they say there are left wing indoctrination

Withdraw farmers on lands occupied legally, without a warrant, because they decided to make a reservation arbitrarily and Indigenous people (influenced by ONGs) send a letter to the government that want a Socialist Yanomami Nation, not is left for you?





No one cares about 60% of brazilian territory are farms, being 40% of brazilian territory owned by <1 of brazilian population.


<1% which produces 6x of what the population consumes. Brazil is not Venezuela who distributed land to those who are unable to plant does not have the resources for this.

To northern region the Forest Code says that in private areas 80% is considered a Legal Reserve which must remain untouched, 20% is for agribusiness. Considering national reserves >80% of the Amazon forest will remain untouched. Environmental laws in mining-rich regions will be reviewed.

Sacrificed Ram
01-15-2019, 11:42 AM
Withdraw farmers on lands occupied legally, without a warrant, because they decided to make a reservation arbitrarily and Indigenous people (influenced by ONGs) send a letter to the government that want a Socialist Yanomami Nation, not is left for you?

I will repeat again, amerinds don't own their reserves, these lands are of state, they are just usufructuary of those lands. Brazil still have a constitution (that maybe we don't agree with content, but we are subject to it), in that says the property is relative, any moment the state can require your property. We have two option, change the constitution or flee from Brazil.



<1% which produces 6x of what the population consumes. Brazil is not Venezuela who distributed land to those who are unable to plant does not have the resources for this.

Who produces 75% of food consumed by brazilian population is familiar agriculture, little farms and ranches, people with very little support from state. Big farmers with a lot of subsidies produce for exportation.


To northern region the Forest Code says that in private areas 80% is considered a Legal Reserve which must remain untouched, 20% is for agribusiness. Considering national reserves >80% of the Amazon forest will remain untouched. Environmental laws in mining-rich regions will be reviewed.

Didn't you watch the video? Only 20% of brazilian territory is reserve. Period.

If you are talking about legal reserves into private areas, this subject has nothing to do with amerinds or with public reserves.

No one understand this greed by amazonic lands if everybody knows amazonic soil is useless to agriculture, the advantage of forest is produce rain to irrigate the plantations in Central Brazil. Watch the video, is giant the number of unproductive lands into private properties, what Brazil don't need advance against Amazonia to produce if there are a lot of unproductive lands out of Amazonia, this people just want do collection of land.

luc2112
01-15-2019, 08:57 PM
I will repeat again, amerinds don't own their reserves, these lands are of state, they are just usufructuary of those lands. Brazil still have a constitution (that maybe we don't agree with content, but we are subject to it), in that says the property is relative, any moment the state can require your property. We have two option, change the constitution or flee from Brazil.


They are regions in deadlock (due to ONGs an UN). For the country it is not possible to extract ore and for the Indians it is not possible either. The current government wants to transform into private property (the owners will be the Indians).




Didn't you watch the video? Only 20% of brazilian territory is reserve. Period.

If you are talking about legal reserves into private areas, this subject has nothing to do with amerinds or with public reserves.

No one understand this greed by amazonic lands if everybody knows amazonic soil is useless to agriculture, the advantage of forest is produce rain to irrigate the plantations in Central Brazil. Watch the video, is giant the number of unproductive lands into private properties, what Brazil don't need advance against Amazonia to produce if there are a lot of unproductive lands out of Amazonia, this people just want do collection of land.

It is better that they are private lands, so you have someone to fine and a case of deforestation. Yes no one is interested in wood that has little value (without environmental report) and many lands are not viable to agriculture. I will not pay attention to a farmer(?) video (noticed that he showed a sack of seed to "prove" that he is a farmer?), he ignores the Forest Code.

Sacrificed Ram
01-16-2019, 12:08 PM
They are regions in deadlock (due to ONGs an UN). For the country it is not possible to extract ore and for the Indians it is not possible either. The current government wants to transform into private property (the owners will be the Indians).

Guy, even USA have a giant amount of minerals under their soil, but they prefer not explore it, they prefer buy it from foreigners. They are doing reserve. Why? The law of offer and demand, if you produce more ore without a demand in market, just the price of ore will fall, you will need produce more to receive the same. It is valid to any product.



It is better that they are private lands, so you have someone to fine and a case of deforestation. Yes no one is interested in wood that has little value (without environmental report) and many lands are not viable to agriculture. I will not pay attention to a farmer(?) video (noticed that he showed a sack of seed to "prove" that he is a farmer?), he ignores the Forest Code.

That guy isn't a farmer he is a reseller of agricultural products, forget that video then, but the problem isn't him, but you and who talk about amerinds reserves, you want turn these lands private of amerinds, then after you will claim the constitution to expropriate those lands from them because they are underutilizing them. Private property is disadvantageous in Brazil because the property is relative according brazilian constitution, I want turn amerind reserve private of them, only when the property is absolute, you are free to do what you want with what is yours, including nothing, but other problem of privatize amerinds lands is that they will sell them and go to live in favelas in big cities, increasing the number poor, saturate the already fragile infrastructure of that places and even elevate criminality.

About reserves into private lands, this subject has nothing do do with amerinds or public reserves.

Smaug
01-16-2019, 12:52 PM
What's your opinion on this?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/brazil-s-president-elect-jair-bolsonaro-may-smother-rainforest-scientists-n940326

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2018/10/brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-promises-exploit-amazon-rain-forest/

Is it exaggerated by the media? Think he'll go through with it? This idea of his really doesn't resonate with me well and I hope it's just talk.

If these scientists are saying that the Amazon rainforest are the "lungs of the Earth" then they are not scientists. Most of the free oxygen in our atmosphere comes from the oceans, but that's another story. As for the political aspect of Bolsonaro's decisions, he is not wrong. These reservations represent almost 1/5 of Brazil's entire territory and less than 1% of the population lives there. These are "wild west" zones, where law means nothing and illegal logging and international drug traffic are commonplace.

Sacrificed Ram
01-16-2019, 05:16 PM
If these scientists are saying that the Amazon rainforest are the "lungs of the Earth" then they are not scientists. Most of the free oxygen in our atmosphere comes from the oceans, but that's another story. As for the political aspect of Bolsonaro's decisions, he is not wrong. These reservations represent almost 1/5 of Brazil's entire territory and less than 1% of the population lives there. These are "wild west" zones, where law means nothing and illegal logging and international drug traffic are commonplace.

This region produces water for the rest of Brazil, without it we become a continuum of Sahara. We need not only food, we need water too, even because our electric system is based in hydroelectrics.

Smaug
01-16-2019, 07:12 PM
This region produces water for the rest of Brazil, without it we become a continuum of Sahara. We need not only food, we need water too, even because our electric system is based in hydroelectrics.

What? What does it have to do with anything I’ve said? Plus, this region does not “produce” any water. Most of the rivers in North and Mid-West states are supplied with water from the Andes.

Teutone
01-16-2019, 07:12 PM
LOVE HIM

Sacrificed Ram
01-17-2019, 10:34 AM
What? What does it have to do with anything I’ve said? Plus, this region does not “produce” any water. Most of the rivers in North and Mid-West states are supplied with water from the Andes.

Yes, the water comes from nothing and appears over the rocks of Andes, it has none relation with water vapour from trees respiration. If northern Brazil becomes a high pressure air area, none humidity from Atlantic will reach Andes, like none humidity from Pacific transposes the mountains.

The trees retain carbon, but if you are a global warming negationist, it is irrelevant.

Smaug
01-17-2019, 11:52 AM
Yes, the water comes from nothing and appears over the rocks of Andes, it has none relation with water vapour from trees respiration. If northern Brazil becomes a high pressure air area, none humidity from Atlantic will reach Andes, like none humidity from Pacific transposes the mountains.

The trees retain carbon, but if you are a global warming negationist, it is irrelevant.

Again, what does it have to do with anything I’ve said? You seem to be under the impression that I don’t care for the rainforest and if so you are wrong. Anyway, the humidity responsible for the glaciers in the Andes comes from the Pacific Ocean, not from the Atlantic Ocean.

Phenix
01-17-2019, 12:41 PM
Who's this Pokemon? another neo-liberal neo-con.

luc2112
01-17-2019, 07:50 PM
Again, what does it have to do with anything I’ve said? You seem to be under the impression that I don’t care for the rainforest and if so you are wrong.

It seems that we support some theory of conspiracy with a diabolical plan to end the Amazon rainforest which is considered a natural patrimony of humanity. I am not interested in radical environmentalists who have never heard of sustainable exploitation.

If Brazil knocks down the entire forest, it will suffer economic sanctions

Sacrificed Ram
01-18-2019, 08:13 AM
Anyway, the humidity responsible for the glaciers in the Andes comes from the Pacific Ocean, not from the Atlantic Ocean.

Yes you are right, the humidity of Pacific cross the mountains, because of it Atacama is the driest desert of the world.

Smaug
01-18-2019, 12:18 PM
Yes you are right, the humidity of Pacific cross the mountains, because of it Atacama is the driest desert of the world.

The Atacama desert exists because all the humidity from the Pacific ocean is realised over the Andes, not being able to reach the eastern side. That’s where the glaciers in the Andes come from, and the water in the rivers in northern Brazil comes from the de-icing of said glaciers.

Smaug
01-18-2019, 12:19 PM
It seems that we support some theory of conspiracy with a diabolical plan to end the Amazon rainforest which is considered a natural patrimony of humanity. I am not interested in radical environmentalists who have never heard of sustainable exploitation.

If Brazil knocks down the entire forest, it will suffer economic sanctions

If Brazil knocks down the rainforest, it will suffer in all aspects. But that guy is obviously a troll.

lisarb
01-18-2019, 07:05 PM
If Brazil knocks down the rainforest, it will suffer in all aspects. But that guy is obviously a troll.
Is a socialist

Sacrificed Ram
01-18-2019, 08:28 PM
The Atacama desert exists because all the humidity from the Pacific ocean is realised over the Andes, not being able to reach the eastern side. That’s where the glaciers in the Andes come from, and the water in the rivers in northern Brazil comes from the de-icing of said glaciers.

Man, you are contradictory, then Why doesn't this de-icing water reach Atacama? The water of Nortern Brazil river's comes from humidity of Atlantic sea and mainly vapour of tree respiration condensed against the Andes and above the forest itself, I don't negate Pacific humidity contributes to formation of glaciers, but this contribution is incipient to formation of eastern side rivers.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/722/20979922766_73f4021f34_b.jpg


If Brazil knocks down the rainforest, it will suffer in all aspects. But that guy is obviously a troll.

When the arguments end, begin the ad hominem attacks.


Is a socialist

https://www.opas.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/laranja.jpg

Smaug
01-19-2019, 04:42 AM
Man, you are contradictory, then Why doesn't this de-icing water reach Atacama? The water of Nortern Brazil river's comes from humidity of Atlantic sea and mainly vapour of tree respiration condensed against the Andes and above the forest itself, I don't negate Pacific humidity contributes to formation of glaciers, but this contribution is incipient to formation of eastern side rivers.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/722/20979922766_73f4021f34_b.jpg



When the arguments end, begin the ad hominem attacks.



https://www.opas.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/laranja.jpg

You are contradictory. I am talking about apples but you insist in discussing tomatoes.

Sacrificed Ram
01-19-2019, 08:40 AM
You are contradictory. I am talking about apples but you insist in discussing tomatoes.

I'm talking about the importance of the forest to provide water for the rest of Brazil.