Nicalandia Ancestry

[nicalandia]

Well I finally did it... lower Amerindian than expected but I am glad that I took it.

What do you think?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=83890&d=1547412551

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=83889&d=1547412466

[Zuh]

please do a gedmatch im so interested to see your results too i think you look full native despite being only 55% native.

[Erronkari]

Very interesting results, friend!

[nicalandia]

please do a gedmatch im so interested to see your results too i think you look full native despite being only 55% native.

Dont know how to do a Gedmatch, but if you look its 55% North Native and 8% Andean... so 63% I would think anything past 60% is Indo-Mestizo..


https://i.cubeupload.com/ZDhdgW.jpg


Quick Question, why do they separate North and South Native Americans?

[Token]

Yeah, less than i expected. You also got 9% SSA, which is not very surprising considering your nationality.

[nicalandia]

Yeah, less than i expected. You also got 9% SSA, which is not very surprising considering your nationality.

more like 6%,

My British/Scottish/Irish/Basque ancestry cancels out any SSA African noise... ;)

but on a serious note:

63% Native American.
27% Caucasoid(had some 1% Jew and 1% Middle east)
9% SSA

[Token]

more like 6%,

My British/Scottish/Irish/Basque ancestry cancels out any SSA African noise... ;)

but on a serious note:

63% Native American.
27% Caucasoid(had some 1% Jew and 1% Middle east)
9% SSA

Download your raw data and upload it to gedmatch.com (www.gedmatch.com), i want to see your results.

How to download your raw data. (https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Downloading-Raw-DNA-Data-1460089696533)

[nicalandia]

Download your raw data and upload it to gedmatch.com (www.gedmatch.com), i want to see your results.

How to download your raw data. (https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Downloading-Raw-DNA-Data-1460089696533)

Will do when I have time, I just ran out of time today

[Leto]

more like 6%,

My British/Scottish/Irish/Basque ancestry cancels out any SSA African noise... ;)

but on a serious note:

63% Native American.
27% Caucasoid(had some 1% Jew and 1% Middle east)
9% SSA
Interesting. You're indeed predominantly native. I remember your brother's half white kids, what do they look like now? Much darker?

[Leto]

Download your raw data and upload it to gedmatch.com (www.gedmatch.com), i want to see your results.

How to download your raw data. (https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Downloading-Raw-DNA-Data-1460089696533)
Yes, especially Dodecad K9 and MDLP World.

[Zuh]

Will do when I have time, I just ran out of time today

Please do it is not to complicated it will show you an 99% accuracy you could be exact 60% native or 55% or 70%

[Iloko]

Cool! even some African in there too

[nicalandia]

I Just updated the data, but don´t know what to post here?

[Leto]

I Just updated the data, but don´t know what to post here?
Eurogenes K15, MDLP World (not K23b) and Dodecad World9. Don't click Oracle, just copy and paste the admixture proportions.

[nicalandia]

Eurogenes K15, MDLP World (not K23b) and Dodecad World9. Don't click Oracle, just copy and paste the admixture proportions.

Dodecad World9

Population
Amerindian 55.90 Pct
East_Asian -
African 9.57 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 19.43 Pct
Australasian -
Siberian 2.03 Pct
Caucasus_Gedrosia 2.66 Pct
Southern 10.42 Pct
South_Asian -


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

Population
North_Sea 6.19 Pct
Atlantic 11.03 Pct
Baltic 3.59 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 6.62 Pct
West_Asian 1.67 Pct
East_Med 2.38 Pct
Red_Sea 1.58 Pct
South_Asian 0.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.27 Pct
Amerindian 54.60 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.51 Pct
Sub-Saharan 9.46 Pct


MDLP World Admixture Proportions

Population
Caucaus_Parsia 4.13 Pct
Middle_East 5.88 Pct
Indian -
South_and_West_European 14.66 Pct
Melanesian -
Sub_Saharian 8.02 Pct
North_and_East_European 8.51 Pct
Arctic_Amerind 21.56 Pct
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 1.45 Pct
Mesoamerican 35.79 Pct
North_Asian -


I´ve got higher Native American Results in Ancestry.com, What else should I post?

[GreentheViper]

Cool results man

[nicalandia]

MDLP K16 Modern Admixture Proportions

Population
Amerindian 54.68 Pct
Ancestor 1.03 Pct
Steppe 4.15 Pct
Indian -
Arctic 0.49 Pct
Australian -
Caucasian 8.61 Pct
EastAfrican 0.59 Pct
NorthEastEuropean 5.67 Pct
NearEast 1.22 Pct
Neolithic 12.10 Pct
NorthAfrican 1.42 Pct
Oceanic -
Siberian 2.21 Pct
SouthEastAsian -
Subsaharian 7.80 Pct

MDLP K23b Admixture Proportions

Population
Amerindian 56.58 Pct
Ancestral_Altaic 1.85 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian 9.51 Pct
Archaic_Human 0.06 Pct
East_African 0.33 Pct
East_Siberian 1.42 Pct
European_Early_Farmers 10.88 Pct
Khoisan 0.41 Pct
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African 2.49 Pct
Near_East 2.35 Pct
North_African 1.26 Pct
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian 6.88 Pct
Tungus-Altaic 0.63 Pct
European_Hunters_Gatherers 5.34 Pct


MDLP World-22 Admixture Proportions

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 3.89 Pct
North-European-Mesolithic 2.50 Pct
Indo-Tibetan 0.37 Pct
Mesoamerican 29.05 Pct
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind 11.18 Pct
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 11.07 Pct
Samoedic -
Indo-Iranian -
East-Siberean 0.11 Pct
North-East-European 8.24 Pct
South-African 0.93 Pct
North-Amerind 18.89 Pct
Sub-Saharian 8.50 Pct
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 5.26 Pct
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian


MDLP K11 Modern Admixture Proportions

Population
African 10.37 Pct
Amerindian 57.79 Pct
ASI -
Basal 3.65 Pct
Iran-Mesolithic -
Neolithic 12.49 Pct
Oceanic -
EHG 7.58 Pct
SEA -
Siberian 2.73 Pct
WHG 5.40 Pct


HarappaWorld Admixture Proportions

Population
S-Indian -
Baloch 2.35 Pct
Caucasian 4.11 Pct
NE-Euro 9.50 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 1.58 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 55.84 Pct
Beringian 0.84 Pct
Mediterranean 13.97 Pct
SW-Asian 2.08 Pct
San 0.88 Pct
E-African 0.59 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African 8.27 Pct


puntDNAL K15 Admixture Proportions

Population
S_Indian -
Mediterranean 12.95 Pct
Siberian 2.25 Pct
Wht_Nile_River 1.50 Pct
Amerindian 48.31 Pct
S_African 1.10 Pct
E_Asian 1.68 Pct
Caucasian 4.05 Pct
NE_European 14.19 Pct
Omo_River 0.11 Pct
W_African 7.77 Pct
Horn_Of_Africa -
Oceanian 0.16 Pct
Beringian 3.96 Pct
SW_Asian 1.97 Pct

[Leto]

Dodecad World9

Population
Amerindian 55.90 Pct
East_Asian -
African 9.57 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 19.43 Pct
Australasian -
Siberian 2.03 Pct
Caucasus_Gedrosia 2.66 Pct
Southern 10.42 Pct
South_Asian -


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

Population
North_Sea 6.19 Pct
Atlantic 11.03 Pct
Baltic 3.59 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 6.62 Pct
West_Asian 1.67 Pct
East_Med 2.38 Pct
Red_Sea 1.58 Pct
South_Asian 0.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.27 Pct
Amerindian 54.60 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.51 Pct
Sub-Saharan 9.46 Pct


MDLP World Admixture Proportions

Population
Caucaus_Parsia 4.13 Pct
Middle_East 5.88 Pct
Indian -
South_and_West_European 14.66 Pct
Melanesian -
Sub_Saharian 8.02 Pct
North_and_East_European 8.51 Pct
Arctic_Amerind 21.56 Pct
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 1.45 Pct
Mesoamerican 35.79 Pct
North_Asian -


I´ve got higher Native American Results in Ancestry.com, What else should I post?
Thanks. That'd be enough. They basically say the same thing - you are 57-58% Native American (the Siberian must be also Native in your case) and around 10% African. The rest is Caucasian (1/3). Honestly you have a bit more white blood than I thought! And it must be almost entirely Spanish.

[nicalandia]

MDLP World Oracle results:



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mesoamerican 35.79
2 Arctic_Amerind 21.56
3 South_and_West_European 14.66
4 North_and_East_European 8.51
5 Sub_Saharian 8.02
6 Middle_East 5.88
7 Caucaus_Parsia 4.13
8 Paleo_African 1.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cochimi 10.19
2 Serrano 10.26
3 Kumiai 14.15
4 Colombian 15.96
5 Cucupa 18.9
6 Mexican 20.59
7 Apache 23.82
8 Miwok 24.49
9 Haida 25.15
10 Maya 27.8
11 Tsimsian 29.28
12 Luiseno 30.28
13 Tlingit 31.74
14 Navajo 31.89
15 Athabask 37.88
16 Mixtec 38.2
17 Pima 38.29
18 Huichol 39.11
19 Costanoan 40.4
20 Karitiana 45.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.1% Maya + 32.9% Lumbee @ 4.15
2 75.5% Cucupa + 24.5% Lumbee @ 5.31
3 60.5% Luiseno + 39.5% Puerto-Rican @ 5.48
4 65.2% Luiseno + 34.8% Lumbee @ 5.57
5 59.6% Mixtec + 40.4% Lumbee @ 5.58
6 84.1% Serrano + 15.9% Karitiana @ 5.71
7 59.6% Pima + 40.4% Lumbee @ 5.8
8 59.1% Huichol + 40.9% Lumbee @ 5.82
9 64.1% Serrano + 35.9% Colombian @ 6.1
10 76.8% Serrano + 23.2% Maya @ 6.17
11 54.1% Huichol + 45.9% Puerto-Rican @ 6.33
12 82.4% Serrano + 17.6% Mixtec @ 6.33
13 54.7% Mixtec + 45.3% Puerto-Rican @ 6.34
14 62.7% Maya + 37.3% Puerto-Rican @ 6.37
15 82.8% Serrano + 17.2% Huichol @ 6.38
16 90.9% Serrano + 9.1% Surui @ 6.43
17 82.5% Serrano + 17.5% Pima @ 6.43
18 78.9% Serrano + 21.1% Luiseno @ 6.51
19 54.6% Pima + 45.4% Puerto-Rican @ 6.52
20 88% Kumiai + 12% Lemba @ 6.61

[nicalandia]

MDLP World-22 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mesoamerican 29.05
2 North-Amerind 18.89
3 South-America_Amerind 11.18
4 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 11.07
5 Sub-Saharian 8.5
6 North-East-European 8.24
7 Near_East 5.26
8 West-Asian 3.89
9 North-European-Mesolithic 2.5
10 South-African 0.93
11 Indo-Tibetan 0.37
12 East-Siberean 0.11
13 Pygmy 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serrano (derived) 12.35
2 Cochimi (derived) 12.56
3 Kumiai (derived) 17.8
4 Mexican (derived) 18.69
5 Colombian (derived) 19.05
6 Miwok (derived) 20.8
7 Cucupa (derived) 24.27
8 Maya (derived) 24.73
9 Apache (derived) 28.24
10 Luiseno (derived) 30.16
11 Tsimsian (derived) 33.46
12 Haida (derived) 33.77
13 Karitiana (derived) 34.81
14 Costanoan (derived) 35
15 Mixtec (derived) 35.49
16 Huichol (derived) 36.38
17 Puerto-Rican (derived) 39.25
18 Ste7 (derived) 40.28
19 Navajo (derived) 40.82
20 Colville (derived) 44.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.5% Maya (derived) + 33.5% Lumbee (derived) @ 6.11
2 92% Serrano (derived) + 8% South-America_Amerind (ancestral) @ 7.62
3 91.8% Serrano (derived) + 8.2% Surui (derived) @ 7.62
4 62.2% Maya (derived) + 37.8% Puerto-Rican (derived) @ 8.23
5 62% Luiseno (derived) + 38% Lumbee (derived) @ 8.49
6 57% Luiseno (derived) + 43% Puerto-Rican (derived) @ 9.18
7 91.8% Cochimi (derived) + 8.2% Lemba (derived) @ 9.41
8 92.1% Cochimi (derived) + 7.9% Bantu (derived) @ 9.45
9 57.9% Mixtec (derived) + 42.1% Lumbee (derived) @ 9.46
10 92.8% Cochimi (derived) + 7.2% Mandenka (derived) @ 9.58
11 92.8% Cochimi (derived) + 7.2% Sub-Saharian (ancestral) @ 9.58
12 92.8% Cochimi (derived) + 7.2% Yoruba (derived) @ 9.58
13 90.5% Cochimi (derived) + 9.5% Biaka_Pygmies (derived) @ 9.65
14 55.3% Miwok (derived) + 44.7% Maya (derived) @ 9.83
15 89.5% Cochimi (derived) + 10.5% Ethiopian (derived) @ 9.87
16 57.3% Huichol (derived) + 42.7% Lumbee (derived) @ 9.96
17 89.7% Cochimi (derived) + 10.3% Jew_Ethiopia (derived) @ 9.99
18 52.7% Mixtec (derived) + 47.3% Puerto-Rican (derived) @ 10.01
19 89.9% Cochimi (derived) + 10.1% Jew-Ethiopia (derived) @ 10.05
20 93.7% Cochimi (derived) + 6.3% South-America_Amerind (ancestral) @ 10.15

[Leto]

You really don't seem to be more than 60% native according to GED. That's still a lot in my opinion. The African is not visible in you. I remember your brother in the US, his half white kids were quite light back then. What do they look like in 2019?

[Leto]

By the way, you can get your Y haplogroup predicted

Post your y-DNA prediction from MorleyDNA.com: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal?d=2018-07-06T16:02:47.303Z and describe the distribution/origins of each haplogroup if you can

This is me:

- G2b1a (most likely). (Semitic/Jewish related)
- N1a (N-P189) (mostly found in old Europeans. Not much info available).
- J2a1i (appears to be semitic/Jewish).
- I1 (North European).
- I2a (North European).
I wonder if it's European or Native. Or maybe even Sephardic Jewish?

[nicalandia]

By the way, you can get your Y haplogroup predicted

I wonder if it's European or Native. Or maybe even Sephardic Jewish?

I will do that when I get the Chance.

gedmatch calculator without the Amerindian component, the populations with closest genetic distance to Native Americans are Central Asians like Kazakh, Uzbek, Uyghur, Kyrgyz, etc who are genetically Eurasian aka West Eurasian-Eastern Asian intermediates than actually Mongoloids.


EUtest Oracle results:
EUtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SIBERIAN 27.94
2 EAST_EURO 13.13
3 EAST_ASIAN 11.98
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 8.8
5 ATLANTIC 8.46
6 WEST_AFRICAN 7.9
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 6.99
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 6.25
9 WEST_ASIAN 4.88
10 EAST_AFRICAN 2.53
11 WEST_MED 0.61
12 MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 KZ 21.25
2 Komi 30.93
3 Udmurt 31.34
4 Erzya 38.19
5 East_Finnish 38.23
6 East_Russian 38.44
7 North_Russian 40.02
8 South_Finnish 40.11
9 Selkup 40.98
10 North_Swedish 42.14
11 HU 42.27
12 Serbian 42.67
13 RO 43.06
14 West_Russian 43.07
15 AT 43.11
16 Ukrainian-Russian 43.59
17 UA 44.57
18 West_&_Central_German 44.58
19 PL 44.67
20 NO 44.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.3% KZ + 29.7% South_Finnish @ 14.18
2 71.6% KZ + 28.4% North_Swedish @ 14.25
3 69.3% KZ + 30.7% East_Finnish @ 14.27
4 63.6% KZ + 36.4% Komi @ 14.32
5 85.8% KZ + 14.2% Luhya @ 14.45
6 64.2% KZ + 35.8% Udmurt @ 14.5
7 73.3% KZ + 26.7% NO @ 14.54
8 73.5% KZ + 26.5% DK @ 14.55
9 73.3% KZ + 26.7% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 14.55
10 87.2% KZ + 12.8% Yoruba @ 14.74
11 73.6% KZ + 26.4% NL @ 14.78
12 74% KZ + 26% Orcadian @ 14.79
13 73.4% KZ + 26.6% West_&_Central_German @ 14.81
14 74.1% KZ + 25.9% IE @ 14.83
15 74.1% KZ + 25.9% English @ 14.84
16 74.1% KZ + 25.9% Cornish @ 14.84
17 70% KZ + 30% East_Russian @ 14.84
18 74.4% KZ + 25.6% Scottish @ 14.86
19 71.1% KZ + 28.9% North_Russian @ 14.94
20 72.9% KZ + 27.1% AT @ 15.05