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Bellbeaking
01-17-2019, 01:09 AM
Is this theory true?

Cristiano viejo
01-17-2019, 01:38 AM
Yes, very true.

Bellbeaking
01-17-2019, 02:31 AM
Yes, very true.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25738

Have you read this paper, david Reich claims we are descended from the Dutch bell beakers who where not related to Iberians genetically, they replaced 90% of the British Gene Pool (who where neolithic farmers (basques))

I wish we where spanish and not Dutch

Dick
01-17-2019, 02:35 AM
Early diffusion of the Bell Beaker culture

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Beaker_culture_diffusion.svg/1024px-Beaker_culture_diffusion.svg.png

Bellbeaking
01-17-2019, 02:43 AM
Early diffusion of the Bell Beaker culture

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Beaker_culture_diffusion.svg/1024px-Beaker_culture_diffusion.svg.png

This is cool do you have a source. Perhaps the dutch beaker migration to england and the brittany migration to the west explain the differences in genetics and appearance between the English and Welsh today?

Does this take into account the recent findings by Reich and Olade?

where did you find this?

HoboJim
01-18-2019, 06:01 AM
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature25738

Have you read this paper, david Reich claims we are descended from the Dutch bell beakers who where not related to Iberians genetically, they replaced 90% of the British Gene Pool (who where neolithic farmers (basques))

I wish we where spanish and not Dutch

It's peculiar that some British/Irish look so southern European, despite being completely northern European genetically. Where does it come from?

Deneb
01-18-2019, 06:13 AM
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Artek
01-18-2019, 10:00 AM
As it was stated - to some extent they are but I don't think it's a predominant part.

Most of their recent common ancestry goes back to the bronze age what's visible in the Y-DNA (and a steppe part of genome). However, Iberians are much more influenced by the Sardinian-like population, whereas the British drifted towards hunter-gatherer part.

Norb
01-18-2019, 10:02 AM
'British'

sailormoon
01-18-2019, 07:33 PM
The spread of the Beaker Complex to Britain from the continent replaced 90% of Britain’s Neolithic gene pool within a few hundred years. But before the Beaker people's arrival, British Neolithic farmers were genetically similar to Neolithic Iberians who carried Y haplogroups such as I2a and G2, which suggests that British Neolithic farmers had Iberian ancestry (Olalde et al. 2018).



British Neolithic farmers were genetically similar to contemporary populations in continental Europe and in particular to Neolithic Iberians, suggesting that a portion of the farmer ancestry in Britain came from the Mediterranean rather than the Danubian route of farming expansion. As previously described2, there is genetic affinity to Iberian Early Neolithic farmers in Iberian Middle Neolithic/Copper Age populations, but not in central and northern European Neolithic populations. Our results suggest that a portion of the ancestry of the Neolithic farmers of Britain was derived from migrants who spread along the Atlantic coast. Megalithic tombs document substantial interaction along the Atlantic façade of Europe, and our results are consistent with such interactions reflecting movements of people. More data from southern Britain (where our sampling is sparse) and nearby regions in continental Europe will be needed to fully understand the complex interactions between Britain and the continent in the Neolithic43 .

lonewolfcypriot
01-18-2019, 07:35 PM
No they are not. They are descended from the 10 tribes of Israel. If you don't believe me look it up.

Sacrificed Ram
01-18-2019, 08:03 PM
Megalithic people were, but current british population has nothing much to do with them.

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Early_Middle_Neolithic_map.png

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/late_neolithic_europe.gif

Bellbeaking
01-29-2019, 07:08 PM
The spread of the Beaker Complex to Britain from the continent replaced 90% of Britain’s Neolithic gene pool within a few hundred years. But before the Beaker people's arrival, British Neolithic farmers were genetically similar to Neolithic Iberians who carried Y haplogroups such as I2a and G2, which suggests that British Neolithic farmers had Iberian ancestry (Olalde et al. 2018).

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