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Oghuz
01-17-2019, 02:49 PM
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The Blade
01-17-2019, 02:56 PM
Irano-Nordid + CM.

Oghuz
01-17-2019, 03:17 PM
Where would he pass outside Iran ?

Oghuz
01-18-2019, 09:07 AM
Bump

zarzian
01-18-2019, 12:17 PM
Text book Iranid

Papastratosels26
01-18-2019, 12:21 PM
Iranid

Oghuz
01-18-2019, 02:16 PM
Text book Iranid

Yes I feel that as well. He is like textbook Iranid.

The Blade
01-18-2019, 04:14 PM
Where would he pass outside Iran ?
Turkey, Afghanistan, Georgia.

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 07:05 AM
Bump

Laag
10-20-2019, 07:14 AM
Med

Kyp
10-20-2019, 07:25 AM
Irano-Med
Somwhere between Iberia and Tajik
best fits: Turkey & Iran

lameduck
10-20-2019, 07:52 AM
aryan

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 08:22 AM
Irano-Med
Somwhere between Iberia and Tajik
best fits: Turkey & Iran

do not you think he will be bit Atypical in Turkey ? He is massively progressive skulled dolichocephalic iranid IMO just bleached

http://www.parsapirouzfar.com/pics/Sheida%20-4.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjqtWHPIOnwPi011ZVDsiyvFGw2HTQU VPrsqOK0jp2hyKxDzD3RQ&s
http://en.ifilmtv.com/UploadedFiles/Images/02-03-2019/11_22_16News.jpg

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 08:26 AM
aryan

buddy considering the BMAC origin of Aryans that attacked the north of India, I would assume them to be very close to modern day Pamiri Tajik Persians who happen to have high frequency of R1a Z93 and are natives of centre of BMAC itself.

https://live.staticflickr.com/1888/29381306637_68d261e8d2_b.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/TJKPamiri_man.jpg/270px-TJKPamiri_man.jpg

Bakha
10-20-2019, 08:26 AM
North pontid-atlantid
Passes almost everywhere in Europe besides South Italy, Greece and some parts of Balkans - too white for that. Best pass in Central and Northwestern Europe tho.

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 08:33 AM
North pontid-atlantid
Passes almost everywhere in Europe besides South Italy, Greece and some parts of Balkans - too white for that. Best pass in Central and Northwestern Europe tho.

atlantid is impossible for an Iranian. What is deceiving you is that atlantid is considered to be mixture of Nordic and Med while this man is a mixture of Irano Nordoid and East Med (Iranid) hence he looks very close to a proper atlantid but is actually just an Iranid admixture. Nothing North Pontid or Anything.

Kyp
10-20-2019, 08:38 AM
atlantid is impossible for an Iranian. What is deceiving you is that atlantid is considered to be mixture of Nordic and Med while this man is a mixture of Irano Nordoid and East Med (Iranid) hence he looks very close to a proper atlantid but is actually just an Iranid admixture. Nothing North Pontid or Anything.

Yes but since it's mostly pseudo-science anyway it's fair to just judge people by their looks when talking phenotypes.
but I agree with your point.

Kyp
10-20-2019, 08:41 AM
do not you think he will be bit Atypical in Turkey ? He is massively progressive skulled dolichocephalic iranid IMO just bleached



Not really. Kivan is posting tons of progessive looking Turks everyday. So I have no doubt he can pass easily as Turk.
He even has some cryptic turkic features since he's from Tehran imo:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Parsa_Pirouzfar_2019.jpg/497px-Parsa_Pirouzfar_2019.jpg

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 08:48 AM
Not really. Kivan is posting tons of progessive looking Turks everyday. So I have no doubt he can pass easily as Turk.
He even has some cryptic turkic features since he's from Tehran imo:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Parsa_Pirouzfar_2019.jpg/497px-Parsa_Pirouzfar_2019.jpg

I know Turkey has progressive skulled people as well but majority is Anatolid, Alpine, Armenoid, Dinarid, Turanid all brachycephalic ... The only way they get dolichocepahlic skulls is by east med mixtures (Iranid or Pontid). Turkish Turks on average are fairer then Iranics but their phenotypes are different. Beautiful people but different then even Turkics of Iran.

Which crowd do you think this man will pass in ?

Iran

https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg


Turkiye

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/GvF05Z6f2kboQMWG6wbWi6QPS3s=/767x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/3NED45WQWEI6TJRABKIWK3L5WY.jpg

Kyp
10-20-2019, 08:53 AM
I know Turkey has progressive skulled people as well but majority is Anatolid, Alpine, Armenoid, Dinarid, Turanid all brachycephalic ... The only way they get dolichocepahlic skulls is by east med mixtures (Iranid or Pontid). Turkish Turks on average are fairer then Iranics but their phenotypes are different. Beautiful people but different then even Turkics of Iran.

Which crowd do you think this man will pass in ?

Iran

https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg


Turkiye

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/GvF05Z6f2kboQMWG6wbWi6QPS3s=/767x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/3NED45WQWEI6TJRABKIWK3L5WY.jpg

both but Iranian more so as I said.

FinalFlash
10-20-2019, 08:58 AM
I know Turkey has progressive skulled people as well but majority is Anatolid, Alpine, Armenoid, Dinarid, Turanid all brachycephalic ... The only way they get dolichocepahlic skulls is by east med mixtures (Iranid or Pontid). Turkish Turks on average are fairer then Iranics but their phenotypes are different. Beautiful people but different then even Turkics of Iran.

Which crowd do you think this man will pass in ?

Iran

https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg


Turkiye

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/GvF05Z6f2kboQMWG6wbWi6QPS3s=/767x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/3NED45WQWEI6TJRABKIWK3L5WY.jpg

Based off these photos, I maintain that Iranians are not darker than Levantines.

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 09:10 AM
Based off these photos, I maintain that Iranians are not darker than Levantines.

Central and South Iranians can get very swarthy ... they still have iranid skull shapes though.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303788-Classify-swarthy-Iranian-men&p=6282134#post6282134

FinalFlash
10-20-2019, 09:12 AM
Central and South Iranians can get very swarthy ... they still have iranid skull shapes though.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303788-Classify-swarthy-Iranian-men&p=6282134#post6282134

I was referring to the Northern Iranians. I doubt that they're darker than Levantines as a whole, which includes Jordanians, Palestinians and Samaritans too.

Kamal900
10-20-2019, 09:14 AM
I was referring to the Northern Iranians. I doubt that they're darker than Levantines as a whole, which includes Jordanians, Palestinians and Samaritans too.

Pigmentation wise, Iranians are on par with Levantines, but at the same time, they can belong to a more wider spectrum of phenotypes than us. The Iranid race is the most common race in Iran which can be found in significant numbers among Levantines due to admixture from Iran during the bronze age periods and so on.

FinalFlash
10-20-2019, 09:15 AM
Pigmentation wise, Iranians are on par with Levantines, but at the same time, they can belong to a more wider spectrum of phenotypes than us. The Iranid race is the most common race in Iran which can be found in significant numbers among Levantines due to admixture from Iran during the bronze age periods and so on.

Iranians as a whole on par with Levantines as a whole? Sure, I can agree with that.

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 09:16 AM
I was referring to the Northern Iranians. I doubt that they're darker than Levantines as a whole, which includes Jordanians, Palestinians and Samaritans too.

Most Iranians are North western ... southern Iran is just a big piece of inhabited land.

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/4a/9d/99/4a9d99c40cb4b9f064211ebffb9dae05.jpg

As for the swarthy Iranian men ... I posted this thread before

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303788-Classify-swarthy-Iranian-men&p=6282134#post6282134

Bakha
10-20-2019, 09:21 AM
atlantid is impossible for an Iranian. What is deceiving you is that atlantid is considered to be mixture of Nordic and Med while this man is a mixture of Irano Nordoid and East Med (Iranid) hence he looks very close to a proper atlantid but is actually just an Iranid admixture. Nothing North Pontid or Anything.
I wanted to add pseudo to my classification but didnt do it to make this persian as euro as possible;
But if seriously, than yes he is Irani-Nordid + Depigmented med (not east med).

FinalFlash
10-20-2019, 09:23 AM
Most Iranians are North western ... southern Iran is just a big piece of inhabited land.

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/4a/9d/99/4a9d99c40cb4b9f064211ebffb9dae05.jpg

As for the swarthy Iranian men ... I posted this thread before

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303788-Classify-swarthy-Iranian-men&p=6282134#post6282134

Still though...

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 09:30 AM
Pigmentation wise, Iranians are on par with Levantines, but at the same time, they can belong to a more wider spectrum of phenotypes than us. The Iranid race is the most common race in Iran which can be found in significant numbers among Levantines due to admixture from Iran during the bronze age periods and so on.

my own observation is that Iranian skin tone has more larger range. you can find many dark Iranians and then you can find Irano nordoid types who are like the fairest Caucasoids outside Europe.

These all are Iranian Persian men.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZIFzHZMFJ8E/UK4jaa4uyOI/AAAAAAAAAIE/mopqan_8Kjo/s1600/IMG_1997%255B1%255D.JPG
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8a/38/e5/8a38e57c7428f95223ef2688c5affb00.jpg
https://images2.static-bluray.com/products/22/52406_1_front.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Iran_vs._Montenegro_2014-05-26_%28030%29.jpg/1200px-Iran_vs._Montenegro_2014-05-26_%28030%29.jpg

Avicenna
10-20-2019, 10:09 AM
buddy considering the BMAC origin of Aryans that attacked the north of India, I would assume them to be very close to modern day Pamiri Tajik Persians who happen to have high frequency of R1a Z93 and are natives of centre of BMAC itself.

https://live.staticflickr.com/1888/29381306637_68d261e8d2_b.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/TJKPamiri_man.jpg/270px-TJKPamiri_man.jpg

Pamiri Tajiks are not Persian, they speak the pamiri language which is a eastern Iranic language native to central Asia.

Kyp
10-20-2019, 10:15 AM
Pamiri Tajiks are not Persian, they speak the pamiri language which is a eastern Iranic language native to central Asia.

In Iran "Persian" is used as umbrella term for everything Iranian :D
My relatives always wonder why i'm using Iranian as root for persian and not the other way around

Voskos
10-20-2019, 10:34 AM
Iranic+south asian.

lameduck
10-20-2019, 10:50 AM
Iranians as a whole on par with Levantines as a whole? Sure, I can agree with that.

from my limited experience in europe Iranians are way more diverse than levantines , almost all levantines i have seen have similar type of look which you can call lighter arab look, but at the end of the day both groups have similar northern west asian skin tone.

Bakha
10-20-2019, 10:55 AM
Iranic+south asian.
“South asian”
sure

Voskos
10-20-2019, 11:00 AM
He's clearly kalash or indid admixed. Deal with it.

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 12:14 PM
He's clearly kalash or indid admixed. Deal with it.

buddy dont troll my thread please.

Hulu
10-20-2019, 12:16 PM
buddy dont troll my thread please.

I agree with him. He looks Aishwara Ray type.

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 12:18 PM
Pamiri Tajiks are not Persian, they speak the pamiri language which is a eastern Iranic language native to central Asia.

manzoram ineke ... Tajik nation is lingual Persian and ethnically proud Iranic ...

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 12:21 PM
from my limited experience in europe Iranians are way more diverse than levantines , almost all levantines i have seen have similar type of look which you can call lighter arab look, but at the end of the day both groups have similar northern west asian skin tone.

Its related to climate as well. Middle east is a hot region. People move around and get bad tanned.

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 12:24 PM
In Iran "Persian" is used as umbrella term for everything Iranian :D
My relatives always wonder why i'm using Iranian as root for persian and not the other way around

I think its same since Persian dominance of the region that people started using Persian identity in exchange for Iranian. Its very wrong IMO.

Root
10-20-2019, 12:25 PM
Nordo Iranid.. he has clear foreign facial features to be fit in Europe, best place is west asia

Oghuz
10-20-2019, 12:27 PM
Nordo Iranid.. he has clear foreign facial features to be fit in Europe, best place is west asia

If you see such face in your country, what nationality will be your first guess ?

Root
10-20-2019, 12:32 PM
If you see such face in your country, what nationality will be your first guess ?


In Caucasus he'd probably be mistaken for an Ossetian, in the Levant - Kurd, in Central Asia - Tajik

Bakha
10-20-2019, 02:01 PM
Nordo Iranid.. he has clear foreign facial features to be fit in Europe, best place is west asia
Well his facial features indeed look a bit foreign for europe but not drastically. The reason is that his features are much more refined/handsome than those of western euros. For an untrained eye he will fit here tho.

Bmack
11-17-2020, 01:16 PM
He looks irano-nordoid turanid mix, probably are the brows. He does look tajik.

Pro.crasti.nation
11-17-2020, 02:01 PM
Very middle eastern looking. Big bumper (as a cousin says) lips, stocky nose and deep tan complexion.

Activateur
09-18-2022, 02:32 PM
Iranian Nordoid and minor Turanid, looks very west asian.

tipirneni
09-18-2022, 07:01 PM
Iranid

The countries in South Asia have majority of Iranid influenced group in the whole world

Hektor12
09-18-2022, 07:10 PM
Pontid/Iranid blend.

Skye
09-18-2022, 07:41 PM
Quite handsome imo, though the brows kind of bug me. Would guess him as being West Asian first and foremost.

Guti
09-18-2022, 10:00 PM
Iranid

The countries in South Asia have majority of Iranid influenced group in the whole worldI don't think an 'Iranid' phenotype is native from South Asia. Native phenotype to South Asia is most likely Vedoid. Think of more pure Dravidian people in the south.

tipirneni
09-18-2022, 10:07 PM
I don't think an 'Iranid' phenotype is native from South Asia. Native phenotype to South Asia is most likely Vedoid. Think of more pure Dravidian people in the south.

Like how your area people were called a version of Humbaba the devils who are only 3 feet humans according to these ancient artifacts

https://www.worldhistory.org/img/r/p/500x600/8103.jpg.webp?v=1640715302

http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/660px-Stele_Naram_Sim_Louvre_Sb4-600x545.jpg