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Cumansky
01-17-2019, 08:50 PM
There is new custom calc from Poi nMonte Webrunner, is supposed created for 23andme..

My computer not working ATM, can someone run for me using coordinates?

Lemgrant
01-17-2019, 09:05 PM
Cumansky_scaled

pen=0.001:

fit=1.012

Eastern European 85.83
Greek & Balkan 11.67

with pen=0:

Fit=0.8283

Eastern European 75
Greek & Balkan 17.5
French&German 5
Italian 2.5

Gründig
01-17-2019, 09:11 PM
Link?

Lemgrant
01-17-2019, 09:12 PM
http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html

Thracian
01-17-2019, 09:19 PM
Do they use Global25's coordinates?

Cumansky
01-17-2019, 09:24 PM
Cumansky_scaled

pen=0.001:

fit=1.012

Eastern European 85.83
Greek & Balkan 11.67

with pen=0:

Fit=0.8283

Eastern European 75
Greek & Balkan 17.5
French&German 5
Italian 2.5

Eastern European 90.3% - Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Hungary
Greek & Balkan 3.1% - Greece, Romania
French & German 1.9% - Germany
Broadly Northwestern European 1.3%
Broadly Southern European 0.6%
Broadly European 2.6%
Broadly Northern East African 0.1%
Unassigned African 0.1%

Pen=0 is very accurate, better than my original 23andme IMO, thanks @Lemgrant

Cumansky
01-17-2019, 09:25 PM
Do they use Global25's coordinates?

Yes

nittionia
01-17-2019, 09:26 PM
Can you use it if you're not a sponsor? And if not, what tier do you need to be?

digital_noise
01-17-2019, 09:29 PM
Can you use it if you're not a sponsor? And if not, what tier do you need to be?

yes, but at some point he was going to prioritize sponsors over non sponsored traffic. Not sure if that has happened yet.

Ayetooey
01-17-2019, 09:31 PM
British=5.83%
Eastern European (slavic?)=25%
Balkan (Paleo-balkanic?)=24.17%
French/German=41.67%
Scandanavia=0.83%
Western Asian=2.5%

Cumansky
01-17-2019, 09:33 PM
yes, but at some point he was going to prioritize sponsors over non sponsored traffic. Not sure if that has happened yet.

I am sponsor and I getting error message today, error message on regular webrunner too, Idk usually works

digital_noise
01-17-2019, 09:36 PM
I am sponsor and I getting error message today, error message on regular webrunner too, Idk usually works

yea, I am getting that also from time to time. So far, refreshing the browser has fixed it for me.

Erronkari
01-17-2019, 09:47 PM
Does it work for chip v5????

Ayetooey
01-17-2019, 09:48 PM
.....

digital_noise
01-17-2019, 09:54 PM
Does global 25 ancestry data work well with this also?

You mean G25 coordinates? If so, thats all you can use with Poi's online tool.

My G25 coords are based off Ancestry DNA raw data and my daughters are based off My Heritage raw data

Lemgrant
01-17-2019, 10:16 PM
http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators_unscaled.html

Lemgrant_unscaled

pen=0:
fit=0.5879

Eastern European 83.33
French&German 8.33
Greek&Balkan 5
Chinese 1.67
Italian 0.83
Siberian 0.83


pen=0.001
fit=0.6565

Eastern European 88.33
Greek&Balkan 7.5
French&German 4.17

Cumansky_unscaled

pen=0:
fit=0.5632

Eastern European 76.67
Greek&Balkan 19.17
French&German 3.33
Chinese 0.83

pen=0.001
fit=0.5974

Eastern European 83.33
Greek&Balkan 15.83
French&German 0.83

celticdragongod
01-17-2019, 10:18 PM
For those who like working with R:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IY-qs0wAj6UinPput4U3Y7Ag1fzZWK8_


[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
BroadlyNorthwesternEuropean:Scottish
1.700079
BroadlyNorthwesternEuropean:English_Cornwall
1.810896
British&IrishEnglish_Cornwall:HG00160
1.845902
BroadlyNorthwesternEuropean:Irish
1.871597
BroadlyNorthwesternEuropean:English
1.905219
BroadlyNorthwesternEuropean:Dutch
1.919175
British&IrishEnglish_Cornwall:HG00259
2.004115
BroadlyNorthwesternEuropean:Welsh
2.037870

[1] "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"
[1] "penalty= 0"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"


[1] "distance%=0.577"


French&German,45.4
British&IrishIrish,31.2
British&IrishScottish,12.6
ScandinavianIcelandic,9.4
ScandinavianSwedish,1.4

************************************

[1] "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"
[1] "penalty= 0.001"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"

"distance%=0.8465"

British&IrishIrish,22.6
British&IrishScottish,22.2
French&German,18
British&IrishEnglish_Cornwall,15
ScandinavianSwedish,11.8
ScandinavianIcelandic,3.2
British&IrishWelsh,2.6

Lemgrant
01-17-2019, 10:37 PM
For those who like working with R:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IY-qs0wAj6UinPput4U3Y7Ag1fzZWK8_


my result with nMonte2:
[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Eastern European:Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78
0.02226586
Eastern European: Polish: Polish5
0.02303785
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian3
0.02442603
Eastern European:Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9
0.02510927
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian12
0.02579500
Eastern European:Belarusian:Belarusian7
0.02618560
Eastern European:Russian_Kursk:russianKursk6
0.02669934
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian20
0.02672108

[1] "distance%=0.9666 / distance=0.009666"

Lemgrant_scaled

Eastern European:Hungarian:NA15207 19.75
Eastern European:Latvian:latvian54A2 17.30
Eastern European:Russian_Tver:Russia_Tver415 12.85
Eastern European:Latvian:latvian54F2 12.65
Eastern European:Belarusian:Belarusian7 10.80
Eastern European:Czech:Czech_Republic2 4.20
Eastern European: Polish: Polish21 3.35
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian12 3.00
Eastern European: Polish: Polish4 2.85
Greek & Balkan:Romanian:A325 1.95
Eastern European: Polish: Polish5 1.90
Eastern European: Polish: Polish16 1.70
French&German:German:German71 1.30
Western Asian:Iranian_Zoroastrian:YZ019 1.25
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian3 1.20
French&German:German:German8 0.80
Greek & Balkan:Croatian:Croatia_Cro26 0.75
Chinese:Han_NChina:HGDP01289 0.40
Chinese:Han_NChina:HGDP01290 0.35
French&German:German:German48 0.30
Eastern European:Belarusian:Belarusian10 0.20
French&German:French:French62 0.15
Eastern European:Russian_Smolensk:Russia_Smol304 0.15
Siberian:Yakut:456_A 0.15
Eastern European: Polish: Polish26 0.10
Chinese:Han:B_Han-3 0.10
French&German:German:German18 0.05
French&German:German:German4 0.05
French&German:German:German77 0.05
Greek & Balkan:Croatian:Croatia_Cro141 0.05
Greek & Balkan:Macedonian:Macedonian7 0.05
Eastern European: Polish: Polish23 0.05
Eastern European: Polish: Polish35 0.05
Chinese:Han:HGDP00775 0.05
Chinese:Han_NChina:HGDP01288 0.05
Western Asian:Iranian_Zoroastrian:I001 0.05

Lemgrant
01-17-2019, 10:47 PM
nMonte2 for Cumansky


[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian12 Eastern European:Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian22 Eastern European:Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9
0.01753332 0.01867376 0.02121680 0.02137731
Eastern European:Slovakian:Slovakia85 Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian1 Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian20 Eastern European:Slovakian:Slovakia77
0.02384660 0.02473755 0.02520245 0.02635768


[1] "distance%=0.7317 / distance=0.007317"

Cumansky_scaled

Eastern European:Latvian:latvian54A2 24.55
Eastern European:Russian_Tver:Russia_Tver415 12.75
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian12 11.40
Greek & Balkan:Macedonian:Macedonian2 8.15
Greek & Balkan:Macedonian:Macedonian7 6.85
Greek & Balkan:Serbian:Serbian_Serbia5 6.45
Eastern European:Belarusian:Belarusian7 4.80
French&German:German:German73 4.75
Eastern European: Polish: Polish23 3.15
Eastern European: Polish: Polish4 3.10
Eastern European:Latvian:latvian54F2 2.85
Eastern European:Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9 2.35
Greek & Balkan:Bosnian:Bosnian_14 1.80
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian15 1.20
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian20 0.90
Eastern European: Polish: Polish37 0.85
French&German:German:German50 0.65
French&German:Austrian:Austria13 0.60
Eastern European: Polish: Polish34 0.60
French&German:French:French8 0.40
Eastern European:Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 0.40
Western Asian:Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ115 0.35
African:Yoruba:NA18507 0.30
Greek & Balkan:Greek:GREEKGRALPOP3 0.25
Chinese:Han_NChina:HGDP01289 0.15
Eastern European: Polish: Polish35 0.10
African:Yoruba:NA18487 0.10
French&German:Austrian:Austria11 0.05
Greek & Balkan:Romanian:A306 0.05
Eastern European: Polish: Polish24 0.05
Western Asian:Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese11AS14 0.05

Cumansky
01-17-2019, 11:00 PM
nMonte2 for Cumansky


[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian12 Eastern European:Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian22 Eastern European:Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9
0.01753332 0.01867376 0.02121680 0.02137731
Eastern European:Slovakian:Slovakia85 Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian1 Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian20 Eastern European:Slovakian:Slovakia77
0.02384660 0.02473755 0.02520245 0.02635768


[1] "distance%=0.7317 / distance=0.007317"

Cumansky_scaled

Eastern European:Latvian:latvian54A2 24.55
Eastern European:Russian_Tver:Russia_Tver415 12.75
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian12 11.40
Greek & Balkan:Macedonian:Macedonian2 8.15
Greek & Balkan:Macedonian:Macedonian7 6.85
Greek & Balkan:Serbian:Serbian_Serbia5 6.45
Eastern European:Belarusian:Belarusian7 4.80
French&German:German:German73 4.75
Eastern European: Polish: Polish23 3.15
Eastern European: Polish: Polish4 3.10
Eastern European:Latvian:latvian54F2 2.85
Eastern European:Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9 2.35
Greek & Balkan:Bosnian:Bosnian_14 1.80
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian15 1.20
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian20 0.90
Eastern European: Polish: Polish37 0.85
French&German:German:German50 0.65
French&German:Austrian:Austria13 0.60
Eastern European: Polish: Polish34 0.60
French&German:French:French8 0.40
Eastern European:Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 0.40
Western Asian:Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ115 0.35
African:Yoruba:NA18507 0.30
Greek & Balkan:Greek:GREEKGRALPOP3 0.25
Chinese:Han_NChina:HGDP01289 0.15
Eastern European: Polish: Polish35 0.10
African:Yoruba:NA18487 0.10
French&German:Austrian:Austria11 0.05
Greek & Balkan:Romanian:A306 0.05
Eastern European: Polish: Polish24 0.05
Western Asian:Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese11AS14 0.05

Good comparison of Eastern Europeans..

Thanks

Coastal Elite
01-18-2019, 01:00 AM
Pen = .001
Fit = 0.8283

French & German 62.5
Greek & Balkan 21.67
British & IrishIrish 6.67
Eastern European 3.33
Western Asian 2.5
Scandinavian Icelandic .83
British & IrishScottish .83
Italian .83
Broadly Southern European .83

Pen = 0
Fit = 0.527

French&German 43.33
Greek & Balkan 24.17
British&IrishIrish 20
Western Asian 5
Eastern European 4.17
ScandinavianIcelandic 1.67
ScandinavianNorwegian .83
Italian .83

Peterski
01-18-2019, 09:43 AM
Yes

Why is it called 23andMe nMonte if it is utilizing Global25?

It is supposed to emulate/imitate 23andMe results right?

So if I have Global25 coordinates (based on any raw data file), I can try 23andMe nMonte, then order 23andMe kit and see how close both results will be?

Grace O'Malley
01-18-2019, 10:09 AM
This is my result using Poi's runner.

Fit 0.7873

British & Irish: English 3.33
British & Irish: English_Cornwall 0.83
British & Irish: Irish 43.33
British & Irish: Scottish 8.33
British & Irish: Welsh 1.67
French & German 18.33
Scandinavian Icelandic 10
Scandinavian Norwegian 6.67
Scandinavian Swedish 7.5

Someone was kind enough to run for me using R

"distance%=0.6768"(pen=0)

Grace_scaled

British&IrishIrish,49.2
French&German,29.4
ScandinavianNorwegian,11
ScandinavianSwedish,9.4
British&IrishEnglish,0.4
ScandinavianIcelandic,0.4
Spanish & Portuguese,0.2

CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Broadly Northwestern European:Icelandic
1.873615
Broadly Northwestern European:Irish
1.875615
Broadly Northwestern European:Scottish
1.963632
Broadly Northwestern European:Welsh
1.976571
ScandinavianIcelandic:NA15765
2.080582
British&IrishEnglish_Cornwall:HG00243
2.084128
Broadly Northwestern European:English
2.206228
British&IrishIrish:Irish44
2.233404


"distance%=0.9353"(default)

Grace_scaled

British&IrishIrish,38.8
ScandinavianIcelandic,24.2
British&IrishScottish,11
French&German,7.4
Broadly Northwestern European,5
British&IrishEnglish_Cornwall,3.8
British&IrishWelsh,3.2
ScandinavianNorwegian,2.4
ScandinavianSwedish,2.4
British&IrishEnglish,1.8

Cumansky
01-18-2019, 03:39 PM
Why is it called 23andMe nMonte if it is utilizing Global25?

It is supposed to emulate/imitate 23andMe results right?

So if I have Global25 coordinates (based on any raw data file), I can try 23andMe nMonte, then order 23andMe kit and see how close both results will be?

23andme report using Global 25 database, more accurate and you get detailed nMonte oracle. Created by Romanian user of Anthrogenica

Cumansky
01-18-2019, 04:00 PM
my result with nMonte2:
[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Eastern European:Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78
0.02226586
Eastern European: Polish: Polish5
0.02303785
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian3
0.02442603
Eastern European:Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9
0.02510927
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian12
0.02579500
Eastern European:Belarusian:Belarusian7
0.02618560
Eastern European:Russian_Kursk:russianKursk6
0.02669934
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian20
0.02672108

[1] "distance%=0.9666 / distance=0.009666"

Lemgrant_scaled

Eastern European:Hungarian:NA15207 19.75
Eastern European:Latvian:latvian54A2 17.30
Eastern European:Russian_Tver:Russia_Tver415 12.85
Eastern European:Latvian:latvian54F2 12.65
Eastern European:Belarusian:Belarusian7 10.80
Eastern European:Czech:Czech_Republic2 4.20
Eastern European: Polish: Polish21 3.35
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian12 3.00
Eastern European: Polish: Polish4 2.85
Greek & Balkan:Romanian:A325 1.95
Eastern European: Polish: Polish5 1.90
Eastern European: Polish: Polish16 1.70
French&German:German:German71 1.30
Western Asian:Iranian_Zoroastrian:YZ019 1.25
Eastern European:Ukrainian:Ukrainian3 1.20
French&German:German:German8 0.80
Greek & Balkan:Croatian:Croatia_Cro26 0.75
Chinese:Han_NChina:HGDP01289 0.40
Chinese:Han_NChina:HGDP01290 0.35
French&German:German:German48 0.30
Eastern European:Belarusian:Belarusian10 0.20
French&German:French:French62 0.15
Eastern European:Russian_Smolensk:Russia_Smol304 0.15
Siberian:Yakut:456_A 0.15
Eastern European: Polish: Polish26 0.10
Chinese:Han:B_Han-3 0.10
French&German:German:German18 0.05
French&German:German:German4 0.05
French&German:German:German77 0.05
Greek & Balkan:Croatian:Croatia_Cro141 0.05
Greek & Balkan:Macedonian:Macedonian7 0.05
Eastern European: Polish: Polish23 0.05
Eastern European: Polish: Polish35 0.05
Chinese:Han:HGDP00775 0.05
Chinese:Han_NChina:HGDP01288 0.05
Western Asian:Iranian_Zoroastrian:I001 0.05

When you have some time you can run nMonte oracle for samples: Ukrainian 12, Russian Orel 78, Russian Kursk 9, Ukrainian 20

We both have those in top 8 single population..

Kaspias
01-19-2019, 09:36 PM
nMonte3

[1] "distance%=2.1961"

Kaspias_scaled

Greek & Balkan,89
Siberian,4
Broadly Southern European,2.6
Chinese,1.4
African,1
Chinese Dai,0.8
French&German,0.8
British&IrishIrish,0.2
Eastern European,0.2

nMonte2

[1] "distance%=1.3939 / distance=0.013939"

Kaspias_scaled

Greek & Balkan:Macedonian:Macedonian7 39.80
Greek & Balkan:Greek:NA17372 20.20
Greek & Balkan:Greek:GREEKGRALPOP10 17.40
Broadly Southern European:Italian_South 7.50
Siberian:Yukagir_Tundra:Yuk_020 7.10
French&German:Dutch:Netherlands17 5.00
Chinese:Han:HGDP00777 2.55
Siberian:Yukagir_Tundra:Yuk_004 0.45

Lucas
01-19-2019, 10:16 PM
G25 isn't any way similar to 23&me database which is based on users data.

If someone has really similar results here and in 23&me?

Lucas
01-19-2019, 10:17 PM
Why is it called 23andMe nMonte if it is utilizing Global25?

It is supposed to emulate/imitate 23andMe results right?

So if I have Global25 coordinates (based on any raw data file), I can try 23andMe nMonte, then order 23andMe kit and see how close both results will be?

Lol, I asked the same and now see your post.

Cumansky
01-19-2019, 10:37 PM
Lol, I asked the same and now see your post.

Dorkymon from Anthrogenica is the person you need ask specific questions regarding development of software..

I get mostly same regions that 23andme has assigned me (genetic community). Oracle is very good, I can understand the populations..