MAIN DIFFERENCES between the Spanish and Croatian handball national teams

[Cristiano viejo]

Spain (only natives + 1 Canarian. I have obviated the Djushevaev brothers, who are half Russomongol)

Gonzalo Pérez de Vargas
http://s1.encastillalamancha.es/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/vargas-copia-1199x674.jpg

Rodrigo Corrales
https://i.avoz.es/default/2018/03/12/00121520887262434582853/Foto/VM13P34F1_213925.jpg

Eduardo Gurbindo
http://www.rtve.es/css/rtve.deportes/rtve.deportes.jjoo2012/i/atletas/1/9/1108791.jpg

Ángel Fernández
https://static2.elnortedecastilla.es/www/multimedia/201901/07/media/angelbalonmano03.jpg

Raúl Entrerríos
https://arxiu.fcbarcelona.cat/web/thumbnails/199_150/Imatges/2010-2011/handbol/primer_equip/plantilla/RAUL_ENTRERRIOS_001.jpg

Julen Aguinagalde
https://cadenaser00.epimg.net/programa/imagenes/2018/01/12/el_larguero/1515785644_455802_1515800476_noticia_normal.jpg

Joan Cañellas
https://www.ecestaticos.com/image/clipping/b9bbd769c776f9dfbb6112b97154c360/canellas-en-el-mundial-de-enero-de-2013-reuters.jpg

Viran Morros
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Viran_Morros_02.jpg

Aléix Gómez
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/PE2AT6/hamburg-germany-12th-aug-2018-handball-heroes-of-handball-test-game-thw-kiel-vs-fc-barcelona-barcelonas-aleix-gomez-credit-axel-heimkendpaalamy-live-news-PE2AT6.jpg

Aitor Ariño
http://as01.epimg.net/masdeporte/imagenes/2018/02/01/balonmano/1517503515_725704_1517503714_noticia_normal.jpg

Gedeón Guardiola
http://img2.rtve.es/v/4939450?w=1600&preview=1547500538455.jpg

Ferrán Solé
https://estaticos.sport.es/resources/jpg/7/8/1517163802287.jpg

Adriá Figueras
https://www.ara.cat/2016/03/06/esports/mes_esports/handbol/Adria-Figueras-celebra-davant-Magdeburg_1535256672_27715859_1011x541.png

Canarian Dani Sarmiento :rolleyes:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/spains-centreback-daniel-sarmiento-melian-reacts-after-a-goal-during-picture-id149670908?s=612x612

[Cristiano viejo]

Croatia (not sure if all of them are natives)

Ivan Stevanovic
https://www.handball-world.news/images/fotos/size3/1471274839-F06P9952stevanovic.JPG

Marin Sego
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Marin_Sego_04.jpg

Domagoj Duvnjak
http://www.ihf.info/portals/0/ESP2013/Domagoj%20Duvnjak.jpg

Luka Stepancic
http://www.seha-liga.com/content/images/2/1547_1411995720.jpg

Ivan Vida
https://www.hrt.hr/media/tt_news/vida_ivan_RKDubrava1009.jpg

Zlatko Horvat (Hungarian surname?)
http://www.be8player.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Zagreb_Horvat_Zlatko-1024x1024.jpg

Igor Karacic
https://alchetron.com/cdn/igor-karai-ed9c2dd4-58b7-461b-8926-769f170ab94-resize-750.jpeg

Alen Blazevic
http://www.hrvatskareprezentacija.hr/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/alen-blazevic.jpg

Manuel Strlek
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Manuel_Strlek_02.jpg

Zeljko Musa
https://www.volksstimme.de/storyimage/MA/20160426/ARTIKEL/160428958/AR/0/AR-160428958.jpg&MaxW=505&ImageVersion=default&NCS_modified=20160426161730

Luka Cindric
https://s.hs-data.com/gfx/person/l/370039.jpg

David Mandic
http://licegrada.hr/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/press-ppd-zagreb-06092018-12.jpg

Kresimir Kozina
https://rtl-static.cdn.sysbee.net/image/kresimir-kozina-77ddcd8ea7c04e720662d3714b4153ff_view_article_new. jpg?v=25

Jakov Vrankovic
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YY9WpuY3U0o/maxresdefault.jpg

Marin Sipic
http://www.rknexe.hr/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/MarinSipic.jpg

Damir Bicanic
https://sportske.jutarnji.hr/incoming/bicanic/8280842/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1080/Bi%C4%87ani%C4%87

[Phenix]

Rakitic in Barca's handball team?

[Licantropo]

Ahahah
You would like to compare your Arab looking people with Croatians now ?? really???ahahahaahah
If you want to find your kins you have to look in Saharid Africa.

[Cristiano viejo]

Ahahah
You would like to compare your Arab looking people with Croatians now ?? really???ahahahaahah
If you want to find your kins you have to look in Saharid Africa.

ok, I will compare it with the peperoni team. Soon.

[Licantropo]

ok, I will compare it with the peperoni team. Soon.

Meanwhile compare Croatians with these Arab and Jew Galicians, arabo bastardo. LOLOLOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcA-oygoN0

[barkoo]

Croatians look all European meanwhile some Spanish looks Arabs, nothing really new though.

[barkoo]

Ahahah
You would like to compare your Arab looking people with Croatians now ?? really???ahahahaahah
If you want to find your kins you have to look in Saharid Africa.

He is funny... in his own style lol he's actually preparing a big European (and Maghreb) tour, to promote all of his threads in every humor festival this summer.

[nafz]

I think they are similar in terms of pigmentation, they are different in features.

A few players are interchangeable meaning they could pass as native in either team.

[Deneb]

Most of the 'Spanish' players are really Basque and Catalans.

[alnortedelsur]

Most of the 'Spanish' players are really Basque and Catalans.

Basques and Catalans are not lighter nor more Euro looking than other Spaniards.

[Deneb]

Basques and Catalans are not lighter nor more Euro looking than other Spaniards.

Yes, they are.
Similar to Asturias or Navarra, but lighter than people from Castilla, Extremadura or Andalucia.

[alnortedelsur]

Yes, they are.

Only in your wet dreams.

[Deneb]

Only in your wet dreams.

The important thing is that most of ethnic Catalans and Basque don't feel identified with Spain. Unfortunately for them half of people living in Catalonia and Basque Country are immigrants arrived from Southern Spain.

[Suinthila]

The important thing is that most of ethnic Catalans and Basque don't feel identified with Spain. Unfortunately for them half of people living in Catalonia and Basque Country are immigrants arrived from Southern Spain.


Bullshit

[Suinthila]

Yes, they are.
Similar to Asturias or Navarra, but lighter than people from Castilla, Extremadura or Andalucia.


Still more bullshit.

[Joso]

Ahahah
You would like to compare your Arab looking people with Croatians now ?? really???ahahahaahah
If you want to find your kins you have to look in Saharid Africa.

Hahaha

[B01AB20]

Lot of hate in so small quantity of posts and about a neutral theme.

There're really REPUGNANT people here :p in the full sense of the world.

Besides the inevitable idiot that's everywhere saying the same idiocies. ^^

[Cristiano viejo]

Meanwhile compare Croatians with these Arab and Jew Galicians, arabo bastardo. LOLOLOL


Well, I was not going to compare them with these Italians, who indeed look Saudi, dont worry :rolleyes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQu2LEFKsgk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiPtHGCvlJ4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-SOksBVd7Q


I think they are similar in terms of pigmentation, they are different in features.

A few players are interchangeable meaning they could pass as native in either team.
That I thought.


Most of the 'Spanish' players are really Basque and Catalans.

False. Only Julen Aguinagalde is ethnic Basque and Ferrá Solé (the darkest of all) and Adriá Figueras are ethnic Catalan.

[Cristiano viejo]

Lot of hate in so small quantity of posts and about a neutral theme.

There're really REPUGNANT people here :p in the full sense of the world.

Besides the inevitable idiot that's everywhere saying the same idiocies. ^^

Peperonis smelling any Spanish thread, they there put their Semitic noses :rolleyes:

[B01AB20]

Peperonis smelling any Spanish thread, they there put their Semitic noses :rolleyes:

And you like it...

Well, let this be between you and these jerks.

And of course the inevitable idiot that's everywhere... :thumb001:

[Dna8]

Croatians look all European meanwhile some Spanish looks Arabs, nothing really new though.

Croatians' Slavic (and attending) genetics give them a more Central/Eastern vibe

Spaniards have a Western Euro vibe

IMO

[Cristiano viejo]

And you like it...


No te digo que no...

[Dna8]

as far as the two sets of photos.. Croatian one more representative imo..

[Licantropo]

Peperonis smelling any Spanish thread, they there put their Semitic noses :rolleyes:

LOL I checked your posting history and you were busting Italians' balls since years you incel Cous cous eater and you even tried with me when i joyned but you chocked hard . You are a clown, brown, moor and a retard. Typical moor incel with no honor and honesty too.


Btw
Here is your people, try much more south of the Mediterranean sea to find your kins. LOL

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84115&stc=1https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84116&stc=1https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84117&stc=1https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84118&stc=1https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84119&stc=1https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84120&stc=1https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84121&stc=1


And while even a retard like you can understand that Milan fans can't all be real Italian or Lombard, here we have tested Spaniards so you can't even whine they are Gipsies. :picard1:

Lmao he thought he was dark because of Greek dna, have i got it right ???LOLOLOLOLOL



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnWqpjqzRMA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuTGncIh0UY

[Licantropo]

No te digo que no...

Hai trovato pane per i tuoi denti allora paella...LOLOLOL

[alnortedelsur]

LOL I checked your posting history and you were busting Italians' balls since years you incel Cous cous eater and you even tried with me when i joyned but you chocked hard . You are a clown, brown, moor and a retard. Typical moor incel with no honor and honesty too.


Btw
Here is your people, try much more south of the Mediterranean sea to find your kins. LOL

And while even a retard like you can understand that Milan fans can't all be real Italian or Lombard, here we have tested Spaniards so you can't even whine they are Gipsies. :picard1:

Lmao he thought he was dark because of Greek dna, have i got it right ???LOLOLOLOLOL



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnWqpjqzRMA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuTGncIh0UY

Today I learnt that when I lived in Spain, most people around me must have been French and Italian tourists that loved Spain so much that stayed there, adopted Spanish surnames, and learnt to speak in perfect Spanish.

The real Spaniards must have been hiding somewhere :rolleyes:

Thanks for enlightening me :D

[Cristiano viejo]

as far as the two sets of photos.. Croatian one more representative imo..
More representative of what?




Here is your people, try much more south of the Mediterranean sea to find your kins. LOL

First guy is Canarian... and these two brothers have an Italian surname :lol:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84117&stc=1

[Licantropo]

More representative of what?


First guy is Canarian... and these two brothers have an Italian surname :lol:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84117&stc=1

First guy is not Canarian not Gypo, try again. He's just your brother in Moorishness.
Rosete Italian?? LOLOL You must be on drug paella or probably the reality check you have had to do since i'm here destroyed your last two neurons.

They are two perfect drops of water with this tested Spaniard, they are Spanish.



https://youtu.be/AnWqpjqzRMA

[Dna8]

More representative of what?

Croatian photos more representative of Croatians' variety of aesthetics.
Spanish photos less representative of Spaniards' variety of aesthetics.

Croatian photos more in accord with reality.
Spanish photos more in discord with reality.

[Licantropo]

First guy is Canarian... and these two brothers have an Italian surname


Try harder next time, babbeo. LOL

https://www.houseofnames.com/rosete-family-crest

[alnortedelsur]

First guy is not Canarian not Gypo, try again. He's just your brother in Moorishness.
Rosete Italian?? LOLOL You must be on drug paella or probably the reality check you have had to do since i'm here destroyed your last two neurons.

They are two perfect drops of water with this tested Spaniard, they are Spanish.



https://youtu.be/AnWqpjqzRMA

I'm going to have to ask my mom is she and her family are actually French or Italian, and if she has been cheating me all this time about her being Spanish.

[alnortedelsur]

Croatian photos more representative of Croatians' variety of aesthetics.
Spanish photos less representative of Spaniards' variety of aesthetics.

Croatian photos more in accord with reality.
Spanish photos more in discord with reality.

Why are they in discord with reality? Because they're "too standard Euro looking" than what expected for being Spanish?

[Cristiano viejo]

Try harder next time, babbeo. LOL

https://www.houseofnames.com/rosete-family-crest

Try yourself :thumb001:

http://www.italiansrus.com/surnames/iscro.htm

[Dna8]

Why are they in discord with reality? Because they're "too standard Euro looking" than what expected for being Spanish?

Using those two sets of photos as physico-anthropological preparatory material, a first time visitor to Europe would get much more of an aesthetic surprise in Iberia, than in Croatia..

[Cristiano viejo]

Croatian photos more representative of Croatians' variety of aesthetics.
Spanish photos less representative of Spaniards' variety of aesthetics.

Croatian photos more in accord with reality.
Spanish photos more in discord with reality.
Based in what, in TA experience? :rolleyes:


First guy is not Canarian not Gypo, try again. ]
Javi Rodríguez, from Canary Islands, you Pinoccio with a big Semitic nose :thumb001:
http://www.futbolbalear.es/2013/01/09/javi-rodriguez-nos-hace-falta-una-victoria-para-coger-confianza/

[Licantropo]

Try yourself :thumb001:

http://www.italiansrus.com/surnames/iscro.htm

Try even harder paella

https://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cognomi-italiani/ROSETE


Here were Rosete comes from and they are Spanish, moors like you.

https://www.houseofnames.com/rosete-family-crest

You are even more patethic than i thought claiming they are Italian..LOL You could use your butthurtness as propeller and reach the milky way curvature 12..LOL

[Dna8]

Based in what, in TA experience? :rolleyes:


Javi Rodríguez, from Canary Islands, you Pinoccio with a big Semitic nose :thumb001:
http://www.futbolbalear.es/2013/01/09/javi-rodriguez-nos-hace-falta-una-victoria-para-coger-confianza/

This is not a politicized matter to me.. I'm just thinking in terms of appearances..

[Licantropo]

Based in what, in TA experience? :rolleyes:


Javi Rodríguez, from Canary Islands, you Pinoccio with a big Semitic nose :thumb001:
http://www.futbolbalear.es/2013/01/09/javi-rodriguez-nos-hace-falta-una-victoria-para-coger-confianza/
Oh , good to know. Now explain the others INCEL moor. LOL

Oh wait i found a real Spanish Pinocchio buttugly semitic witch. LOLOLOL

What's her?? Jew, Gipsy, Canarian?? Nope just a typical Spanish lady. LOLOL

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84124&stc=1

[alnortedelsur]

Using those two sets of photos as physico-anthropological preparatory material, a first time visitor to Europe would get much more of an aesthetic surprise in Iberia, than in Croatia..

Aren't those players Spanish?

Have you ever been to Spain? Tell me how Spanish are supposed to look like?

[Cristiano viejo]

Try even harder paella

https://www.cognomix.it/mappe-dei-cognomi-italiani/ROSETE


Here were Rosete comes from and they are Spanish, moors like you.

https://www.houseofnames.com/rosete-family-crest

You are even more patethic than i thought claiming they are Italian..LOL You could use your butthurtness as propeller and reach the milky way curvature 12..LOL
Not my fault that Rosete is a peperoni surname :thumb001:
I even posted some Italian info about this surname, unfortunately the thread that you peperonis made about them was deleted with the crush of TA.

Damn, even searching info of this Italian surname one can find this :rotfl:


- Hola soy de la familia rossetti de españa, mis antepasados vinieron de italia y el apellido al llegar a españa fue cambiado por rosete. vivo en cuba. me pueden escribir a rosete93@yahoo.es. saludos a toda la familia rossetti

http://www.rossettiweb.it/genealogia/news.php

This is not a politicized matter to me.. I'm just thinking in terms of appearances..

Yeah, for sure you thought the Spanish team looked swarthier, like the Italian, true?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?274769-MAIN-DIFFERENCES-between-the-Spanish-and-Italian-handball-national-teams

sorry if the reality is different.

[Cristiano viejo]

Oh , good to know. Now explain the others INCEL moor. LOL

Oh wait i found a real Spanish Pinocchio buttugly semitic witch. LOLOLOL

What's her?? Jew, Gipsy, Canarian?? Nope just a typical Spanish lady. LOLOL

Puff, if I had to post all the peperoni women with a Semitic nose I would taste oallmy life doing it :laugh:

Come on, MENA peperoni, post some Gypsies and a few Canarians trying to pass them as Spaniards :lol:

[Dna8]

Tell me how Spanish are supposed to look like?

As I've stated elsewhere, it is an aesthetic, not a political matter for me.. Some Spaniards look like this, some like that etc.. 'Should' never enters my equations..

[Licantropo]

Not my fault that Rosete is a peperoni surname :thumb001:
I even posted some Italian info about this surname, unfortunately the thread that you peperonis made about them was deleted with the crush of TA.

Damn, even searching info of this Italian surname one can find this :rotfl:



http://www.rossettiweb.it/genealogia/news.php


Yeah, for sure you thought the Spanish team looked swarthier, like the Italian, true?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?274769-MAIN-DIFFERENCES-between-the-Spanish-and-Italian-handball-national-teams

sorry if the reality is different.

What the fuck has to do "Rossetti" with Rosete you utter retard...LOLOLOL


They are Moors like you, born and breed paellas.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84125&stc=1


Have a good night chorizo Moor. :1127:



Origins Available: French , Spanish


Noble surnames, such as Rosete, evoke images of the ancient homeland of the Spanish people. The original bearer of the name Rosete, which is a local surname, once lived, held land, or was born in the beautiful region of Spain. In Spain, hereditary surnames were adopted according to fairly general rules and during the late Middle Ages, names that were derived from localities became increasingly widespread. Local names originally denoted the proprietorship of the village or estate. The Rosete family originally lived in a place where wild roses grew. The surname is derived from the Latin word rosa, which means rose. The family name Rosete is also derived from the given name Rose.
Early Origins of the Rosete family

The surname Rosete was first found in Old Castile, in the mountains near Santander.

[Cristiano viejo]

What the fuck has to do "Rossetti" with Rosete you utter retard...LOLOLOL

Rosetti in Spain became Rosete, stupid MENA peperoni, that has to do :thumb001:
These brothers have Italian origin, it is really laughable :lol:

[Freeroostah]

Croatians are a bit more robust Alpine, thats all imo
They both look South European with some North looking exceptions

[Cristiano viejo]

Croatians are a bit more robust Alpine, thats all imo
They both look South European with some North looking exceptions

Would you say the Italian team is the swarthiest?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?274769-MAIN-DIFFERENCES-between-the-Spanish-and-Italian-handball-national-teams

[Bandesha]

looks north africans

[alnortedelsur]

This is my response to Artabro, who said that I (as Venezuelan who lives in USA) don't know anything about Spanish phenotypes. This is my private response to him:

Este Venezolano ha vivido en España, y esta mas familiarizado con los fenotipos Españoles que lo que tu supones. Y encima vienes a hablarme como si en Venezuela no hubiese habido ninguna inmigracion Española, como para no tener ni puta idea sobre los fenotipos de España, asi que no vengas a tocarme los cojones.

And I remark again: Basques and Catalans are NOT lighter NOR more Euro looking than other Spaniards. FUCK HIM!

He told me to don't bother to answer him because he put me on his ignore list, but I don't give a fuck.

[Tooting Carmen]

Croats look SE Euro, Spaniards SW Euro. And while the former do have a slightly higher percentage of light hair and eyes than the latter, the difference is nowhere near as extreme as what is often assumed.

[Catarinense1998]

None of these people look non euro. Why did you create so much trouble about this?

[Satem]

By the way Croatia won yesterday with Spain 23-19 at World Handball Championship

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Croats look SE Euro, Spaniards SW Euro. And while the former do have a slightly higher percentage of light hair and eyes than the latter, the difference is nowhere near as extreme as what is often assumed.

Majority of Croatian team is from Herzegovina

[barkoo]

Croatians' Slavic (and attending) genetics give them a more Central/Eastern vibe

Spaniards have a Western Euro vibe

IMO

A team is absolutely not representative in any ways of how ppl look irl. Sample is much too little to give a fair demographic representation, on the top of that it can give the opposite result since can be randomly made of anything representative or not at all. Composition is often linked to socio-economical origin too etc. OP is a clown troll, don't take his threads too much seriously.

[Licantropo]

Rosetti in Spain became Rosete, stupid MENA peperoni, that has to do :thumb001:
These brothers have Italian origin, it is really laughable :lol:

Why in the fucking fuck Rossetti should become Rosete in Spain ?LOL And why the fuck since they are born and breed in Spain they should be Italian given that the surname Rosete is present and attested for centuries in Spain, you brown arab Al Andalus rapespawn SSA admixed douche???LOLOL
You are really stupid and patethic, not to mention butthurt coward and not even able to get away with your same countryfellows swathyness that is welll known to everyone IRL. You are too stupid and patethic to be real, paella moor.

[Cristiano viejo]

None of these people look non euro. Why did you create so much trouble about this?
Because peperonis are jealous, that is why. They always will come to the Spanish threads, specially that Maghrebi-looking boy, barkoo, who is, among all, the brownest, to call us Moors, it is very funny :cool:


By the way Croatia won yesterday with Spain 23-19 at World Handball Championship
Yep, I was zapping when I saw they were playing, that is why I created this thread, just to compare a Western and a Eastern teams.
Both teams are classified btw.

[Morena]

I think the difference is that the Croatians have broader faces and thinner noses, on average. There are a few blonder players, but overall the pigmentation is similar. I'm surprised at how well some of the players match with each other, TBH.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I think the difference is that the Croatians have broader faces and thinner noses, on average. There are a few blonder players, but overall the pigmentation is similar. I'm surprised at how well some of the players match with each other, TBH.

these guys are mainly southern Croats. They aren't very representative for average population, especially one in the north which is majority. Athletes are much taller/more robust than common people on average also with more specific phenotypes suited for sport. watching thse guys you would conclude robust meds/cromagnoids and dinarics are the norm. in reality alpinids baltids etc are much more common and here i see one of two

[Cristiano viejo]

these guys are mainly southern Croats. They aren't very representative for average population, especially one in the north which is majority. Athletes are much taller/more robust than common people on average also with more specific phenotypes suited for sport. watching thse guys you would conclude robust meds/cromagnoids and dinarics are the norm. in reality alpinids baltids etc are much more common and here i see one of two

Why are they mainly from south? people in north dont play handball or what?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Why are they mainly from south? people in north dont play handball or what?

south is much better in sport. and taller. in this team our wings are northerners and both are short lol. most croatian sport teams are made mainly from southerners, gotta admit that.

[Cristiano viejo]

south is much better in sport. and taller. in this team our wings are northerners and both are short lol. most croatian sport teams are made mainly from southerners, gotta admit that.

In basket, football etc, too?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

In basket, football etc, too?

especially basketball and water polo. football not so much, got nice amount of northerners but still south (includes bosnia) dominates. Luka Modrić is from south for example.

[Cristiano viejo]

especially basketball and water polo. football not so much, got nice amount of northerners but still south (includes bosnia) dominates. Luka Modrić is from south for example.

I never thought a country could take the most part of its sportsmen from a determined region... it is interesting.
Happy Luka the bestttttttttttttt! sadly the Spanish media is saying he will move of Real Madrid the next season.

[Insuperable]

especially basketball and water polo. football not so much, got nice amount of northerners but still south (includes bosnia) dominates. Luka Modrić is from south for example.

The swarthiest basketball player (if not from all sports) happens to be from northen Croatia.

[Morena]

these guys are mainly southern Croats. They aren't very representative for average population, especially one in the north which is majority. Athletes are much taller/more robust than common people on average also with more specific phenotypes suited for sport. watching thse guys you would conclude robust meds/cromagnoids and dinarics are the norm. in reality alpinids baltids etc are much more common and here i see one of two

I have a hard time believing there is such a strong divide between north and south in such a small country. I suppose it's possible.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

The swarthiest basketball player (if not from all sports) happens to be from northen Croatia.
who are we talking about ?


I have a hard time believing there is such a strong divide between north and south in such a small country. I suppose it's possible.
that's because you don't know croatian history and geography. north and south part are very different in geography, climate, culture history and phenotypes. also different dominant haplogroups although genetically difference isn't big.

south is physically separated from north trough dinaric alps which was big barrier in the past.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Croatia_topo.jpg

compare with haplogroup I2 frequency
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1444139086862.jpg

or height differences north-south
https://i.imgur.com/nZn9Wrm.png

so yeah difference is substantial and bigger than in many large countries for example.

[Insuperable]

who are we talking about ?


that's because you don't know croatian history and geography. north and south part are very different in geography, climate, culture history and phenotypes. also different dominant haplogroups although genetically difference isn't big.

south is physically separated from north trough dinaric alps which was big barrier in the past.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Croatia_topo.jpg

compare with haplogroup I2 frequency
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1444139086862.jpg

or height differences north-south
https://i.imgur.com/nZn9Wrm.png

so yeah difference is substantial and bigger than in many large countries for example.

Krunoslav Simon.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Krunoslav Simon.

lol he's swarthy as fuck. could be part jew though. simon sound jewish to me (not saying he isn't croat, krunoslav obviously is croatian name, but maybe he is mixed)

[Mingle]

Majority of Croatian team is from HerzegovinaWhy are they mostly from Herzegovina? Why not Dalmatia? Are Herzegovina Croats also the largest demographic in other sports? I'd guess Croats from Adriatic Coast would dominate water polo, but about basketball, football, etc?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Why are they mostly from Herzegovina? Why not Dalmatia? Are Herzegovina Croats also the largest demographic in other sports? I'd guess Croats from Adriatic Coast would dominate water polo, but about basketball, football, etc?

Because they are taller than others and it's rural area. Also because they have very strong regional team (FC Ljubuški) to nurture homegrown talent in Bosnian league. Dalmatia and Herzegovina is mostly the same man, dinaric belt. Even our best player who was born in Slavonia is from Herzegovina by origin. They dominate all sports. Dinaric regions gives most of elite athletes not only for Croatia but also for Serbia. You won't find many known south Serb athletes but tons are from Montenegro and east Herzegovina.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Croatia tennis national team which won Davis Cup in 2018 was also made 100% of southerners - two Dalmatians and three Herzegovina Croats.

[Mingle]

Because they are taller than others and it's rural area. Also because they have very strong regional team (FC Ljubuški) to nurture homegrown talent in Bosnian league. Dalmatia and Herzegovina is mostly the same man, dinaric belt. Even our best player who was born in Slavonia is from Herzegovina by origin. They dominate all sports. Dinaric regions gives most of elite athletes not only for Croatia but also for Serbia. You won't find many known south Serb athletes but tons are from Montenegro and east Herzegovina.

Yes, Dalmatians (from the hinterland) and Herzegovinans are almost the same. That's why I asked why Herzegovinans were dominating the sport when they're a much smaller population than Dalmatians. But them having a strong regional team makes sense for why that's the case. People from a lower economic strata also tend to be more sports-focused so that may be the case here too.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Yes, Dalmatians (from the hinterland) and Herzegovinans are almost the same. That's why I asked why Herzegovinans were dominating the sport when they're a much smaller population than Dalmatians. But them having a strong regional team makes sense for why that's the case. People from a lower economic strata also tend to be more sports-focused so that may be the case here too.

It has to do with mentality also. They are competitive, ambitious people. Cut-throat you could say, comes handy for sports. Also they dominate politics and business. Harsher the terrain more determined people are I guess.

[Pribislav]

Luka Modrić is from south for example.

His father is Catholic Serb from Kruševo near Obrovac, and his mother is Orthodox Serb from Benkovac from family Dopuđ.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

His father is Catholic Serb from Kruševo near Obrovac, and his mother is Orthodox Serb from Benkovac from family Dopuđ.

Modrić is Croat from village Modrići idiot. You Serbs are disgusting people man. Your chetniks killed his grandfather who was civillian and you have nerve to call him Catholic Serb. Just quit it man.
Catholic Serbs exist as much as Jewish Croats do. Fantasy for laughing. To add his surname is non existant among your folk.

[Insuperable]

His father is definitely not Serb. His mother is very likely Serb.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

"On the morning of December 18, 1991, around 9am, a group of Obrovac Chetniks set out along the old road toward Velebit.

"While they were driving along a winding, dusty Velebit road, they were singing their folk songs, primitive tunes full of ideological and violent rhymes.

"They also praised Draza Mihajlovic, Slobodan Milosevic and the other creators of Serbia’s project of occupation against their neighbouring nations.

"Exactly in that mood, the cheerful Chetniks came across a flock of sheep and goats, and a man who looked after the flock while it grazed poor, mountain grass. It was Luka Modric from Zaton Obrovacki, a village that adjoins Jasenice, located above Obrovac.

"The Chetniks stopped the car at once, got out and ran at the innocent shepherd still singing the song with their coarse throats.

"’Who are you, what are you doing here? This is Serbian land,’ they snapped.

"They pushed him, lashed out at him, and yelled at him, ‘Move forward, move!’ The terrified shepherd took a couple of unsteady steps ‘forward’ and then, Velebit echoed with terrifying gunfire.

"Luka Modric fell, shot down...

“After killing Luka Modric, the killers, the Chetniks, continued toward Meke Doce to finish their bloody job..."

Luka Modric Sr was Luka Modric's grandfather and that is how the Zadarski List newspaper journalist Ivica Marijacic described his execution in a report from April 1995.

https://www.goal.com/story/goal502018modricen/index.html

[Pribislav]

Modrić is Croat from village Modrići idiot. You Serbs are disgusting people man. Your chetniks killed his grandfather who was civillian and you have nerve to call him Catholic Serb. Just quit it man.
Catholic Serbs exist as much as Jewish Croats do. Fantasy for laughing. To add his surname is non existant among your folk.

My mistake. His mother is also from Kruševo.
Name of Modrić's uncle (mother's brother) is Jovo Dopuđ.

[Pribislav]

His father is definitely not Serb. His mother is very likely Serb.

I heard from some Croatians that Mordić is ugly due to his Serbian mother. :1127:

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I heard from some Croatians that Mordić is ugly due to his Serbian mother. :1127:

I bet you made that up Srbo.

[Pribislav]

Serb with surname Dopuđ from Kruševo is tested as R1b-U152.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Modrić i half Serb I guess and Đoković is half Croat. Funny

[Insuperable]

I bet you made that up Srbo.

My thought exactly.

[Pribislav]

Modrić i half Serb I guess and Đoković is half Croat. Funny

Yes, Đoković is half Croatian.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Serb with surname Dopuđ from Kruševo is tested as R1b-U152.

Modrić is probably R1a. Midget.

[Dick]

Spaniards look southwestern+Central European Croatians look Balkan+Central European

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

IMO phenotype has little with Y dna, but when it comes to South Slavs tall ones are I and short ones R

[Pribislav]

IMO phenotype has little with Y dna, but when it comes to South Slavs tall ones are I and short ones R

It seems like that.
Momčilo Đujić was R1a and he was short for his region.

There are some exceptions. For example Serbian duke Bogdan Zimonjić was R1b-U152 and he was very tall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdan_Zimonjić
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Pop_Bogdan_Zimonjić.jpg

R have leadership and intelectual capabilities. Svetozar Borojević, Nikola Tesla and Jovan Deretić were/are R1a as well.

I are athletes and have physical power, they are good warriors and sportists (Novak Đoković, Karađorđe, Novica Cerović, Živojin Mišić...)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

It seems like that.
Momčilo Đujić was R1a and he was short for his region.

There are some exceptions. For example Serbian duke Bogdan Zimonjić was R1b-U152 and he was very tall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdan_Zimonjić
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Pop_Bogdan_Zimonjić.jpg

R have leadership and intelectual capabilities. Svetozar Borojević, Nikola Tesla and Jovan Deretić were/are R1a as well.

I are athletes and have physical power, they are good warriors and sportists (Novak Đoković, Karađorđe, Novica Cerović, Živojin Mišić...)

Yes, agree.

[Dna8]

Croats look SE Euro, Spaniards SW Euro. And while the former do have a slightly higher percentage of light hair and eyes than the latter, the difference is nowhere near as extreme as what is often assumed.

I'd argue, given Spain's much greater population, and Croatia's higher density of light hair/eyes.. that the difference is borderline meaningful..

[Dna8]

A team is absolutely not representative in any ways of how ppl look irl.

of course, I agree..

[Dna8]

I have a hard time believing there is such a strong divide between north and south in such a small country. I suppose it's possible.

It's true..

Different histories (social, cultural, political) = differences between North and South.

Different genetic histories = different rates of various phenotypes.

Different rates of various phenotypes + different dialects of Croatian language (historically, at least) reinforce the general impression of there being a Northern and a Southern Croatia.

In a politicized physico-anthropologically themed environment such as TA, phenotype will draw the most attention in discussion involving the validity of North/South Croatian differences. But it is the history itself which is King.

[Cristiano viejo]

Sorry Croatians, we won :victory0:

Champions of Europe 2020!
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