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dosas
01-19-2019, 07:02 PM
See title.


Myheritage results:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=80626&d=1538891493



Chromosome 11 scores Sicily:

K36 chromosomal report. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/10VficSBUR6HHH4fxUC0L2bFx1u3nlcPH/view)

Kaspias
01-19-2019, 07:03 PM
no, myheritage is just bullshit.

Cristiano viejo
01-19-2019, 07:10 PM
No. It was Sicilian would be higher.

Leto
01-19-2019, 07:15 PM
no, myheritage is just bullshit.
If he is a Pontic Greek his results make sense. East Med and Anatolia strong!

Kaspias
01-19-2019, 07:17 PM
If he is a Pontic Greek his results make sense. East Med and Anatolia strong!

I agree, yes.

-Dosas may i ask what was your west asian and east med score on eurogenes k13?

Lemgrant
01-19-2019, 07:34 PM
no, myheritage is just bullshit.

Ayetooey claims that Myheritage is more accurate than Ancestry in his case.

dosas
01-19-2019, 07:35 PM
I agree, yes.

-Dosas may i ask what was your west asian and east med score on eurogenes k13?

Population
North_Atlantic 11.49
Baltic 12.26
West_Med 15.54
West_Asian 24.09
East_Med 30.72
Red_Sea 2.78
South_Asian 0.40
East_Asian 0.26
Siberian 0.13
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.66
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.66

Kaspias
01-19-2019, 07:37 PM
Ayetooey claims that Myheritage is more accurate than Ancestry in his case.

Yeah can change person to person. It is accurate for dosas too. But in general obviously Ancestry is much more accurate than MH. It spams North African, Nigerian, Chinese for every people.

Thracian
01-19-2019, 07:43 PM
It must be a glitch for Southeast Euro's. I have seen some Bulgarians, Romanians and Serbians have it.

rein
01-19-2019, 07:47 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was that.

Kaspias
01-19-2019, 08:05 PM
Population
North_Atlantic 11.49
Baltic 12.26
West_Med 15.54
West_Asian 24.09
East_Med 30.72
Red_Sea 2.78
South_Asian 0.40
East_Asian 0.26
Siberian 0.13
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.66
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.66

I have 15 WA 22 East med. MH gave 40 west asian lol

Leto
01-19-2019, 09:15 PM
@dosas, what is your Dodecad K12b admixture proportion?

dosas
01-20-2019, 07:24 AM
@dosas, what is your Dodecad K12b admixture proportion?

Population
Western European 11.20 Pct
Siberian 0.30 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 4.20 Pct
South Asian 0.26 Pct
West African 0.83 Pct
Caucasus 34.47 Pct
Finnish 0.85 Pct
Mediterranean 23.61 Pct
Southwest Asian 10.67 Pct
North European 13.35 Pct
East Asian 0.27 Pct

Leto
01-20-2019, 03:59 PM
Population
Western European 11.20 Pct
Siberian 0.30 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 4.20 Pct
South Asian 0.26 Pct
West African 0.83 Pct
Caucasus 34.47 Pct
Finnish 0.85 Pct
Mediterranean 23.61 Pct
Southwest Asian 10.67 Pct
North European 13.35 Pct
East Asian 0.27 Pct
This isn't Dodecad K12b, sorry.

dosas
01-20-2019, 04:10 PM
This isn't Dodecad K12b, sorry.

Yes, sorry, that was Eurogenes K12b.

This is Dodecad K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 9.43 Pct
Siberian 0.67 Pct
Northwest_African 1.47 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 19.21 Pct
North_European 17.77 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.13 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 41.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Sikeliot
01-20-2019, 04:16 PM
Do you know yourself to have Sicilian ancestry for a fact? If so, it could be that.

It could also signal Greek ancestry from the Dodecanese, Cyprus, Anatolia, Crete, or Pontus.

dosas
01-20-2019, 04:19 PM
Do you know yourself to have Sicilian ancestry for a fact? If so, it could be that.

It could also signal Greek ancestry from the Dodecanese, Cyprus, Anatolia, Crete, or Pontus.

No, I don't know anything before my grandparents. I am just trying to correlate it to my K36 results where two chromosomes score Italy, one of them Sicily. But I get the Dodecanesa connection.

Sikeliot
01-20-2019, 04:20 PM
No, I don't know anything before my grandparents. I am just trying to correlate it to my K36 results where two chromosomes score Italy, one of them Sicily. But I get the Dodecanesa connection.

If you consider Sicilians are basically Dodecanese but with North African, then you should look for North African above what is average for Greeks, to see if you may have a Sicilian ancestor as opposed to a Greek one from an outlying area.

dosas
01-20-2019, 04:26 PM
If you consider Sicilians are basically Dodecanese but with North African, then you should look for North African above what is average for Greeks, to see if you may have a Sicilian ancestor as opposed to a Greek one from an outlying area.

It just seems so random. I trust Lukasz' work more than any other autosomal test. My west asian 20%ish, for example, correlates perfectly with 2 Circassian chromosomes, 1 GR_Pontus and 1 TR_Trabzon. It's the middle-eastern part I am trying to figure out.

Rgvgjhvv
01-20-2019, 04:27 PM
What's interesting is that you're 50% Pontic Greek, yet you only score around 10% more West Asian than I do on MyHeritage

dosas
01-20-2019, 04:29 PM
What's interesting is that you're 50% Pontic Greek, yet you only score around 10% more West Asian than I do on MyHeritage

Argh, this again :cool:.

Pontics are not homogeneous, it's a geographical/cultural/linguist term not ethnic.

The majority of my Black Sea chromosomes are Crimean, and these guys were originally from the Peloponnese.

Rgvgjhvv
01-20-2019, 04:30 PM
The majority of my Black Sea chromosomes are Crimean.

Azov pride babeh

dosas
01-20-2019, 04:38 PM
Azov pride babeh

The Pontic Greeks do not even, originally, identify with mainland Greece and its ancient continuity, like Southerners do. They call themselves 'Romans' (even now, especially in diaspora) and their homeland is the Greco-Roman Eastern Empire with its capital, Constantinople, or after its fall, Trebizond and/or Theodoro.

Principality of Theodoro. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Theodoro)

Empire of Trebizond. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Trebizond)

Leto
01-20-2019, 05:38 PM
Yes, sorry, that was Eurogenes K12b.

This is Dodecad K12b:

Population
Gedrosia 9.43 Pct
Siberian 0.67 Pct
Northwest_African 1.47 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 19.21 Pct
North_European 17.77 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.13 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 41.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Basically 60% West Asian and Middle Eastern. However you get more North European than all Sicilians that I've seen so far. They usually get 10-15% or so.