From 0 to 10 how well does this typical Portuguese pass in your country ?

[Sebastianus Rex]

IMO, a typical Portuguese Gracile-Med

https://www.triathlon.org/images/athlete_thumbs/Triathlon_Portugal_Silva_Joao_01.jpg

https://previews.123rf.com/images/sportgraphic/sportgraphic1112/sportgraphic111200010/11556086-joao-silva-of-portugal-interviewed-after-of-barcelona-garmin-triathlon-event-at-barcelona-beach-on-o.jpg

https://maisfutebol.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/13612368/960

http://static.globalnoticias.pt/storage/DN/2016/dn2015_detalhe_topo/ng7786763.JPG

http://www.federacao-triatlo.pt/ftp2015/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/JoaoSilva.jpg

https://cdn.record.pt/images/2013-03/img_920x518$2013_03_24_22_23_00_772874.jpg

[FilhoV]

10 ;)

[FilhoV]

IMO, a typical Portuguese Gracile-Med

https://www.triathlon.org/images/athlete_thumbs/Triathlon_Portugal_Silva_Joao_01.jpg

https://previews.123rf.com/images/sportgraphic/sportgraphic1112/sportgraphic111200010/11556086-joao-silva-of-portugal-interviewed-after-of-barcelona-garmin-triathlon-event-at-barcelona-beach-on-o.jpg

https://maisfutebol.iol.pt/multimedia/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/13612368/960

http://static.globalnoticias.pt/storage/DN/2016/dn2015_detalhe_topo/ng7786763.JPG

http://www.federacao-triatlo.pt/ftp2015/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/JoaoSilva.jpg

https://cdn.record.pt/images/2013-03/img_920x518$2013_03_24_22_23_00_772874.jpg


Bernardo Silva in the future

[Catarinense1998]

He passes quite well among the traditonal elites (families) on Northeast, or he could pass as a fisherman with azorean roots in the South too. All over Brazil. 10/10.

[Sikeliot]

In my area, 10 because of all the Portuguese here.

In south Italy/Sicily he would be atypical and I wouldn't guess him as being from there. Obviously, he passes in Portugal and not in Poland.

[Zuh]

If you don't look like a white american or northern European person than any strong Mediterranean passes very well in all Mexico.

[barkoo]

I'd say he'd pass quite well in France around 6 or 7/10, and 7 or 8 over Italy, he is Atlanto Med imo though.

[Blondie]

can't pass, 10/1

[Rouxinol]

10/10.

[Erronkari]

9 or even 10. Uber typical.
At the point every people would be surprised at the moment to know he is a foreigner.

[PT Tagus]

10 ofc :D

[Phenix]

5/10 in Maghreb.

[Catarinense1998]

5/10 in Maghreb.

Deleted. I did not understand your post. Sorry.

[Valedictorian]

10/10. And not necessarily as a White guy either..

[CrazyDaisy]

I think he easily passes in Ecuador, but he looks kind of exotic in Canada.

[Sebastianus Rex]

I'd say he'd pass quite well in France around 6 or 7/10, and 7 or 8 over Italy, he is Atlanto Med imo though.

Hmmm...he is gracile, look at his bone structure. I believe people have a steriotyped image of Gracile-Meds as some exotic borderline euro-Mena looking type when it's not the case at all in most cases.

[Phenix]

Deleter. I did not understand your post. Sorry.

Maghreb have two different demographic zones: coastal/urban and countryside/rural, in my city he could pass easily, but in most regions he would be seen as foreigner. That's why I put 5/10, his hair color is less present, most MENA have jet black hair, and some traits are clearly European, beard attenuates them in some photos.

[Phenix]

Hmmm...he is gracile, look at his bone structure. I believe people have a steriotyped image of Gracile-Meds as some exotic borderline euro-Mena looking type when it's not the case at all in most cases.

Yes he is Gracile and it's rare except in Iberia and Italy, I think Atlanto-Med would pass better in Maghreb.

[Erronkari]

In some pictures I look like an older and ugly version of him...the similitude is not huge because I have rougher traits but exist...

[Sebastianus Rex]

Maghreb have two different demographic zones: coastal/urban and countryside/rural, in my city he could pass easily, but in most regions he would be seen as foreigner. That's why I put 5/10, his hair color is less present, most MENA have jet black hair, and some traits are clearly European, beard attenuates them in some photos.

I agree, rural/mountain Maghrebians look more europoid on average than people imagine.

[PT Tagus]

Hmmm...he is gracile, look at his bone structure. I believe people have a steriotyped image of Gracile-Meds as some exotic borderline euro-Mena looking type when it's not the case at all in most cases.

my case :lol:

[Smaug]

10/10 I think.

[barkoo]

Hmmm...he is gracile, look at his bone structure. I believe people have a steriotyped image of Gracile-Meds as some exotic borderline euro-Mena looking type when it's not the case at all in most cases.

Yeah true, but straight Gracile-Med is hard to really determinate in its "pure form" tbh since its most of the time mixed with other elements. Could have Atlantid idk, he's clearly more robust than me for instance, particularly jaws , what do you think ?

[Phenix]

I agree, rural/mountain Maghrebians look more europoid on average than people imagine.

Coastal cities and mountaineers are, but plains inhabitants are unpassable nowhere besides their regions.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Yes he is Gracile and it's rare except in Iberia and Italy, I think Atlanto-Med would pass better in Maghreb.

In France there's also a significant gracile-med population, on average more Atlantized or Alpinized, but still pred. Gracile Med.

Greece also, often mixed with dinaric or CM/alpine.

[Seya]

5-6/10 too gracile imo

[Cristiano viejo]

10/10. I consider him our little brother.

[Phenix]

In France there's also a significant gracile-med population, on average more Atlantized or Alpinized, but still pred. Gracile Med.

Yes particularly in Languedoc-Roussillon region, I didn't mention it because they are generally influenced by other types.


Yeah true, but straight Gracile-Med is hard to really determinate in its "pure form" tbh since its most of the time mixed with other elements. Could have Atlantid idk, he's clearly more robust than me for instance, particularly jaws , what do you think ?

The soft traits come from you South-Med part, but the Portuguese in OP could also be Atlantid influenced.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Yeah true, but straight Gracile-Med is hard to really determinate in its "pure form" tbh since its most of the time mixed with other elements. Could have Atlantid idk, he's clearly more robust than me for instance, particularly jaws , what do you think ?

Well Gracile-Meds (like other types) don't have to look exactly the same, some can be a bit more or less robust, more or less pigmented etc. His skull is def. Gracile Med for sure.

[barkoo]

10/10. I consider him our little brother.

Then you'd consider me as your little brother also lol.

[Erronkari]

I forgot, in my dad's country, Uruguay, he also pass as 9 or 10 without any doubt.

[CommonSense]

3/10

His look definitely wouldn't be typical here

[gıulıoımpa]

40/100 for Southern italy

one i would guess immediately as iberian (not good enough to pinpoint he as a portuguese specifically though)

[Sebastianus Rex]

42/100

And that translates into what ? xD Would be perceived as a local guy or not really ?

[Phenix]

42/100

Are you sure what section this is?

[Cristiano viejo]

Then you'd consider me as your little brother also lol.

You look nothing like that Portuguese.

[barkoo]

You look nothing like that Portuguese.

We got the same classification pendejo.

[Cristiano viejo]

We got the same classification pendejo.

Your wannnabism has no limits.

[PT Tagus]

Then you'd consider me as your little brother also lol.

you're our cousin. :lol:

[gıulıoımpa]

And that translates into what ? xD Would be perceived as a local guy or not really ?

it's not like people would stare him down the street but we, enlightened TA users would look at him and say…"hmmm he looks Iberian" but that's all

[Sebastianus Rex]

You look nothing like that Portuguese.


We got the same classification pendejo.


Your wannnabism has no limits.

Please guys, give it a break for a while.

[barkoo]

Your wannnabism has no limits.

I was just pointing out your stupidity, what wannabism moron ? But if you ask me i could pass in Spain like a glove. Just preserve me from your autistic comments next time.

[Phenix]

Please guys, give it a break for a while.

They won't, it's either Franco or Mussolini.

[Papastratosels26]

2-3

[Phenix]

it's not like people would stare him down the street but we, enlightened TA users would look at him and say…"hmmm he looks Iberian" but that's all

I hope not to cross TA members when traveling abroad, imagine how weird it feels to be interpelled in street and told: "what does your Saharid arse doing here?".

[Cristiano viejo]

I was just pointing out your stupidity, what wannabism moron ? But if you ask me i could pass in Spain like a glove. Just preserve me from your autistic comments next time.

"I pass in Spain" is one of your favourites sentences.
"Spaniards look Arab", other.

2 + 2 = 4 :cool:

[Kamal900]

A 3 for me. He doesn't look remotely Levantine or east-Med in general. Looks very Iberian to me.

[Matxe92]

Absolute 0/10. He would be a head turner basically.

[The Blade]

Gracile Med with Baskid admixture.
Cannot pass here. Looks uniquely Southwestern.

[TheMaestro]

This shape of face is very typicall for PT, I like like you can distinguish Spainard from PT.
Anyways talking about passability probably 0/10.

[MysteriousWays]

Gracile Med & Baskid admixture. Would definitely look non-local in this specific region; in PA (in the northeast), he passes fine, but still not the most typical.

[PT Tagus]

Where do you see Baskid admixture?

[Licantropo]

He reminds me of this athlet from my region who i thinks is pretty similar overall and that i consider quite representative, so a solid 7\8.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84246&stc=1

[Dunai]

can't pass, 10/1

Are you sure, because sometimes I can see such strongly Med looking people in Hungary, and they surely aren't of Gypsy origin. One of the greatest water polo goalkeepers, Szécsi Zoltán:

http://www.apropo.media/cuccok/storages/thumbnails/2016-04-26/7237d24913270b906ea401bca57ab657/680x0.jpg
http://vlv.hu/container/gallery/01_mg_2093_ok_900px_1291512894.jpg

[Blondie]

Are you sure, because sometimes I can see such strongly Med looking people in Hungary, and they surely aren't of Gypsy origin. One of the greatest water polo goalkeepers, Szécsi Zoltán:

http://www.apropo.media/cuccok/storages/thumbnails/2016-04-26/7237d24913270b906ea401bca57ab657/680x0.jpg
http://vlv.hu/container/gallery/01_mg_2093_ok_900px_1291512894.jpg

That's why i wrote 10/1, but very rare.

[Bogdan]

Not typical in my area of the US but could pass. 7/10

[Morena]

Gracile Med & Baskid admixture. Would definitely look non-local in this specific region; in PA (in the northeast), he passes fine, but still not the most typical.


Not typical in my area of the US but could pass. 7/10

What about regions? I think he could pass easier in the South (I've seen people who look like him. There is a deacon at my church who resembles him) and also certain areas with higher southern European concentration, like New York or Florida. But he would stand out in the midwest and North West.

It's why I say 5/10.

[Bogdan]

What about regions? I think he could pass easier in the South (I've seen people who look like him. There is a deacon at my church who resembles him) and also certain areas with higher southern European concentration, like New York or Florida. But he would stand out in the midwest and North West.

It's why I say 5/10.

We get a lot of tourists from other states in the Northeast and he passes more as one of these than a native of this area, although I can’t place from where. I haven’t traveled outside of New England.

[MysteriousWays]

What about regions? I think he could pass easier in the South (I've seen people who look like him. There is a deacon at my church who resembles him) and also certain areas with higher southern European concentration, like New York or Florida. But he would stand out in the midwest and North West.

It's why I say 5/10.

I think he passes especially well in states like Louisiana (that also tend to have a relatively high proportion of people of French and Spanish origins), as well as Florida. I actually think he passes more typically in either of those states than even in Pennsylvania. Around here in MN, he'd stick out a bit.

[Not a Cop]

1-2/10 for being Europoid+some Russians are close to him in pigmentation.

[Morena]

We get a lot of tourists from other states in the Northeast and he passes more as one of these than a native of this area, although I can’t place from where. I haven’t traveled outside of New England.


I think he passes especially well in states like Louisiana (that also tend to have a relatively high proportion of people of French and Spanish origins), as well as Florida. I actually think he passes more typically in either of those states than even in Pennsylvania. Around here in MN, he'd stick out a bit.

Oh, OK. I agree with both points.

[Khamzat]

6-7 in some pics he can’t pass in the UK at all but in other pics he kinda looks dark english

[KingOf]

not typical for Greece
don't know what grade to give really... between 3-5

[nafz]

not typical for Greece
don't know what grade to give really... between 3-5

Not typical but not rare either. I would say 6/10.

[nafz]

In my area, 10 because of all the Portuguese here.

In south Italy/Sicily he would be atypical and I wouldn't guess him as being from there. Obviously, he passes in Portugal and not in Poland.

Despite this forum's politics and antagonisms and despite various genetics charts and tables that I see posted often here it is my view that many Iberians pass perfectly as natives in Italy and vice versa.

This particular Portuguese looks very similar to another athlete, Italian high jumper Gianmarco Tamberi.

[Zuh]

You look nothing like that Portuguese.

Why are you so mean to people? No tienes Corazon.

[Cristiano viejo]

Why are you so mean to people? No tienes Corazon.

Honesty is my second name.

[Marmara]

6/10.

He does look foreign especially from the profile, but still passable.

[barkoo]

Why are you so mean to people? No tienes Corazon.

el no ha cerebro también.

[Cristiano viejo]

el no ha cerebro también.

What I dont have is brown skin like you.

[curiousabouthist1212]

Atypical anywhere in the US, even if it's a 'mixed country' Portuguese are exotic here

Even in places with lots of Greeks and italians (americans are more used to this in terms of southern euros), it's a different look

From an american point of view people would probably guess italian, or hispanic (second to last photo). I think it'd confuse americans haha

[Regnera]

8/10 as a Portuguese in Macao

[HelloGuys]

10/10 like a white mexican

[Joso]

-1/10, too WOG

[Joso]

8/10 as a Portuguese in Macao

Are there poeple that look like this in Macao?

[Erronkari]

-1/10, too WOG

Similar woginess to mine. :p

[Sebastianus Rex]

-1/10, too WOG

Too Wog for Brazil ? That's a new concept. xD

[Regnera]

Are there poeple that look like this in Macao?

Yeah,the descent of Portuguese colonizers

[Dna8]

2-4/10 as regards Serbia

[Rouxinol]

Atypical anywhere in the US, even if it's a 'mixed country' Portuguese are exotic here

Even in places with lots of Greeks and italians (americans are more used to this in terms of southern euros), it's a different look

From an american point of view people would probably guess italian, or hispanic (second to last photo). I think it'd confuse americans haha

Compared to other Southern European ancestries, Portuguese is a drop in the ocean in the U.S. Main regions where they're located are just a few, such as Newark, NJ and around Boston, MA. There are smaller communities in California too. And there's Hawaii, but I wonder whether those Portuguese there ever were actually (ethnic) Portuguese. Many of these so-called "Portuguese" were and their descendants are of at least partial Cape Verdean ancestry - Cape Verde was part of Portugal until 1975.

[curiousabouthist1212]

yeah I think I've met like one portuguese guy here, and he doesn't look particularly iberian. I've stayed in portugal though and can say there is a VERY diverse phenotype

[Latinus]

10/10.

[Latinus]

He passes quite well among the traditonal elites (families) on Northeast, or he could pass as a fisherman with azorean roots in the South too. All over Brazil. 10/10.

He also pass in the working class of the Northeast, nothing particularly upper class about his phenotype, not really.

[Latinus]

Too Wog for Brazil ? That's a new concept. xD

He is too troll for Brazil.

[Catarinense1998]

He also pass in the working class of the Northeast, nothing particularly upper class about his phenotype, not really.

I already said some places where he would be common. Of sure he could fit in portuguese communities of Rio de Janeiro or São Paulo. The biggest part of the Northeast's poor and middle classes are mixed, but of course he fits there too.

[Moje ime]

3 for Serbia