Classify a guy from Pontus and Cappadocia

[Livin]

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[Kivan]

Mediterranean.

[Papastratosels26]

Med

[Livin]

Mediterranean.

I think he looks more west asian/anatolian and even Iranian rather greek,south italian or spaniard what you think?

[Papastratosels26]

Is he meso, coz I can't see his skull shape very well

[Tauromachos]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0716cd886cb066f3947e0704d007edd6/tenor.gif?itemid=5926299

[Kivan]

I think he looks more west asian/anatolian and even Iranian rather greek,south italian or spaniard what you think?

Iranian? Are you serious?

He looks like an overtanned Atlanto-Med to me.

Looks somewhat like this basketball player:
https://abload.de/img/fireshotcapture167-gk2fch0.png

He is from trabzon as well.

[catgeorge]

East Med + Nordic Iranian

[rein]

I think he looks more west asian/anatolian and even Iranian rather greek,south italian or spaniard what you think?

Fake tan Greek.

[Marmara]

Iranian? Are you serious?

He looks like an overtanned Atlanto-Med to me.

Looks somewhat like this basketball player:
https://abload.de/img/fireshotcapture167-gk2fch0.png

He is from trabzon as well.

OP is from Cappadocia, not Trabzon.

[Tauromachos]

Fake tan Greek.

Can a West Asian native member please tell us if he realy look West Asian or
if Livin is hallucinating because of his tan..

[Marmara]

Can a West Asian native member please tell us if he realy look West Asian or
if Livin is hallucinating because of his tan..

He looks Anatolian.

[Papastratosels26]

He looks Anatolian.Yep

[Seth MacFarlane]

Gracile mediterrean ? His look is kind of ambigous I could see him as Iberian and Italan easily , as well as Turkish and Cypriot . Very mediterrean looking man and good looking

[Livin]

He looks Anatolian.

He looks totally West asian rather south med(south italian,south greek).Cappadocian Greeks are genetically the same with Pontics aswell.

[Livin]

Is he meso, coz I can't see his skull shape very well

He is meso-doli range but more hypsicranic(high vault).

[Tauromachos]

He looks totally West asian rather south med(south italian,south greek).Cappadocian Greeks are genetically the same with Pontics aswell.

If he is realy South Med than its not a West Asian look.

People from Turkey don't look South Med unless you include with West Asian people such as Palestinians

South Meds can occasionaly pop up among Med Islanders,also Greek ones.

[Kivan]

OP is from Cappadocia, not Trabzon.

The title of the threads says: "Classify a guy from Pontus and Cappadocia".

I meant I was assuming he was half-Pontian, but anyways...

[Livin]

Gracile mediterrean ? His look is kind of ambigous I could see him as Iberian and Italan easily , as well as Turkish and Cypriot . Very mediterrean looking man and good looking

Looks something between Anatolia-Cyprus and Levant/Iran IMO.He is a model....

[Marmara]

If he is realy South Med than its not a West Asian look.

People from Turkey don't look South Med unless you include with West Asian people such as Palestinians

South Meds can occasionaly pop up among Med Islanders,also Greek ones.

What kind of Hashish you smoke?

Turks are not representative of true Anatolian phenotype.

[Papastratosels26]

He looks totally West asian rather south med(south italian,south greek).Cappadocian Greeks are genetically the same with Pontics aswell.South Med is Saharid? I'm confused.

[Livin]

The title of the threads says: "Classify a guy from Pontus and Cappadocia".

I meant I was assuming he was half-Pontian, but anyways...

Dosnt really make a different.Pontians and Cappadocians are pretty much the same people on genetics.autosomal and even Ydna.I look like this guy if you put out my Taurid traits.

[Livin]

If he is realy South Med than its not a West Asian look.

People from Turkey don't look South Med unless you include with West Asian people such as Palestinians

South Meds can occasionaly pop up among Med Islanders,also Greek ones.

Anatolia before the turkish arrival it was a mix of Caucasus Hunter Gathener and Anatolian Neolithic.Like modern Pontians for example!

[Cumansky]

He look similar with my sister fiance who is south Italian, maybe more tall

East Med Anatolid minor Dinarid

[Tauromachos]

Anatolia before the turkish arrival it was a mix of Caucasus Hunter Gathener and Anatolian Neolithic.Like modern Pontians for example!


Before the arrival of Turks

There were Phrygians,Lydians,Lykians,Karians,Ionians,Dorians, Aeolians,Hettites,Armenians,Chaldeans,Methonites,H ourites living in Anatolia

[Marmara]

Before the arrival of Turks

There were Phrygians,Lydians,Lykians,Karians,Ionians,Dorians, Aeolians,Hettites,Armenians,Chaldeans living in Anatolia

And they were West Asian.

[Kivan]

Anatolia before the turkish arrival it was a mix of Caucasus Hunter Gathener and Anatolian Neolithic.Like modern Pontians for example!

Anatolia was always a mixed and diverse place. You can't generalize.

[Papastratosels26]

Before the arrival of Turks

There were Phrygians,Lydians,Lykians,Karians,Ionians,Dorians, Aeolians,Hettites,Armenians,Chaldeans,Methonites,H ourites living in AnatoliaAnd Persians,Medes, Assyrians, Jews.

[Livin]

Before the arrival of Turks

There were Phrygians,Lydians,Lykians,Karians,Ionians,Dorians, Aeolians,Hettites,Armenians,Chaldeans living in Anatolia

Anatolia was always a mix of Iran Neolithic and Anatolia Neolithic.These populations didnt affect the genetic affinity of the region.The big diffrence between islanders,cretans with anatolians is that you have more WESTERN HUNTER GATHENER admixture.So,imagine this guy like a true anatolian neolithic person.

[Marmara]

And Persians,Medes, Assyrians, Jews.

They were in Mesopotamia

[Tauromachos]

And they were West Asian.

Phrygians were related to people in the Balkans or in other words there were
Phrygians both in the Balkans and in Anatolia

Ionians,Dorians,Aeolians were Hellenic tribes also living in the Greek Islands and Mainland Greece
Karians were in South West Anatolia and also lived in some parts of Greece

The rest some of them were Semitic and some Indoeuropean though i don't know what this would mean for their
genetics or phenotypes.

[Marmara]

Anatolia was always a mix of Iran Neolithic and Anatolia Neolithic.These populations didnt affect the genetic affinity of the region.The big diffrence between islanders,cretans with anatolians is that you have more HUNTER GATHENER admixture.So,imagine this guy like a true anatolian neolithic person.

WHG + Steppe.

Anatolians also lacked Steppe admixture.

[Papastratosels26]

They were in MesopotamiaThey occupied Anatolia from many years before Alexander.

[Livin]

Anatolia was always a mixed and diverse place. You can't generalize.

If you put out the central asian admixture in modern Turks you got Armenian/Pontian like people.The empires and their elites never affected the genetics of the regions.Even modern turks do not have such a bif central asian admixture...depends the region!!!

[Marmara]

Phrygians were related to people in the Balkans or in other words there were
Phrygians both in the Balkans and in Anatolia

Ionians,Dorians,Aeolians were Hellenic tribes also living in the Greek Islands and Mainland Greece

The rest some of them were Semitic and some Indoeuropean though i don't know what this would mean for their
genetics or phenotypes.

Anatolia was the homeland of Ancient Anatolians.

They spoke extinct Anatolian branch of IE languages

Semites didn't live in Anatolia, Southeastern Turkey isn't part of Anatolia. It's Levant + Mesopotamia with distinct genetics and culture.

[Livin]

WHG + Steppe.

Anatolians also lacked Steppe admixture.

Yep my fault.

[Marmara]

They occupied Anatolia from many years before Alexander.

Persians established Satrapies, that's it.

[Livin]

Phrygians were related to people in the Balkans or in other words there were
Phrygians both in the Balkans and in Anatolia

Ionians,Dorians,Aeolians were Hellenic tribes also living in the Greek Islands and Mainland Greece
Karians were in South West Anatolia and also lived in some parts of Greece

The rest some of them were Semitic and some Indoeuropean though i don't know what this would mean for their
genetics or phenotypes.

LOL.Do not confuse some historic evidences from wiki,with true genetic science.Phrygians come and left ....they rarely affected the genetics of anatolia.Maybe they assilimated later into some Greek populations.Aeolians and Dorians colonized aegean coast and nothing else.Anatolia hellenized during Alexander the great later.

[Marmara]

I don't know what Cybernautic is trying to prove, these people are West Asians it's proven by genetics.

[Tauromachos]

LOL.Do not confuse some historic evidences from wiki,with true genetic science.Phrygians come and left ....they rarely affected the genetics of anatolia.Maybe they assilimated later into some Greek populations.Aeolians and Dorians colonized aegean coast and nothing else.Anatolia hellenized during Alexander the great later.

How do you know?

I seriously doubt that the West in particular the coastal regions of Anatolia was genetically the same with Inland regions or
Kurdistan.

People in Western Turkey were always culturally and also anthropologically different from people like Kurds.

Its just in the recent decades there was a huge influx of Eastern Turks into Western Turkey.

Even culture and mentality between a Smyrnian Greek and a Pontian or Cappadocian is different.

Pontians and Cappadocians are much heavier and conservative Mountain like in nature more similar
to Vlachs of Mainland Greece

They have not the fresh mediteranean temperament of a Smyrnian
Neither their traditional food is the same

[Livin]

Persians established Satrapies, that's it.

Indeed.Even the kingdom of Pontus who were under Persian elite didnt affect the genetics or ydna of the people.You rarely gonna find any Pontian scoring high south asia or have some clades from Persians etc.The same with Greeks,they just colonized the place and force the folks to have a greek languange and a greek culture.Like anglo-saxons didnt affect much the british isles and more and more other examples that i am bored to mention.

[Livin]

How do you know?

I seriously doubt that the West in particular the coastal regions of Anatolia was genetically the same with Inland regions or
Kurdistan.

People in Western Turkey were aways culturally and also anthropologically different from people like Kurds.

Its just in the recent decades there was a huge influx of Eastern Turks into Western Turkey

People in western turkey and aegean-coast greeks from there have more anatolian neolithic and more western hunter gathener thats all.Thats why they clusther with other greeks and south italians.Eastern Turkey is armenian/assyrian like.Totally lucks WHG and steppe admixtures.

[Kivan]

If you put out the central asian admixture in modern Turks you got Armenian/Pontian like people.The empires and their elites never affected the genetics of the regions.Even modern turks do not have such a bif central asian admixture...depends the region!!!

No, not really. As i said, Anatolia is a diverse place. Northern parts, for example, is more Caucasus shifted. Aegean area has a shift towards South Europe. It's not true that every Turk is modelled as "Half-Armenian/half-Oghuz" or similar, if you were implying it. Here the results of a Western Anatolian Turk, just for comparison:



# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.74
2 South_Central_Asian 11.53
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.25
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.71
5 Tungus-Altaic 6.55
6 Near_East 5.53
7 East_Siberian 4.73
8 Arctic 3.48
9 Ancestral_Altaic 2.95
10 North_African 2.41
11 South_East_Asian 1.61
12 Melano_Polynesian 1.30
13 Australoid 1.01

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin @ 5.885062
2 Turk_Balikesir @ 8.318324
3 Turk_Istanbul @ 8.869559
4 Turk @ 10.355407
5 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12.021833
6 Azov_Greek @ 12.157321
7 Nogai @ 12.231788
8 Turk_Kayseri @ 13.440648
9 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13.851104
10 Turk_Adana @ 13.981258
11 Cirkassian @ 14.427249
12 Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 16.548096
13 Cretan @ 16.682146
14 Georgian_Jew @ 16.721102
15 Circassian @ 17.177387
16 Kumyk @ 17.458357
17 Greek_Macedonia @ 17.539604
18 Romanian_Jew @ 17.566490
19 Greek @ 17.602461
20 Kabardin @ 17.636078

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Nogai +50% Turk_Balikesir @ 4.635275


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Circassian +25% Sicilian_Agrigento +25% Tatar-Siberian @ 4.058968

[rein]

People in western turkey and aegean-coast greeks from there have more anatolian neolithic and more western hunter gathener thats all.Thats why the clusther with other greeks and south italians.Eastern Turkey is armenian/assyrian like.Totally lucks WHG and steppe admixtures.

Would you be surprised if you had steppe HG admixture?

[Marmara]

How do you know?

I seriously doubt that the West in particular the coastal regions of Anatolia was genetically the same with Inland regions or
Kurdistan.

People in Western Turkey were always culturally and also anthropologically different from people like Kurds.

Its just in the recent decades there was a huge influx of Eastern Turks into Western Turkey.

Even culture and mentality between a Smyrnian Greek and a Pontian or Cappadocian is different.

Pontians and Cappadocians are much heavier and conservative Mountain like in nature more similar
to Vlachs of Mainland Greece

They have not the fresh mediteranean temperament of a Smyrnian
Neither their traditional food is the same

First, Kurds are also not Anatolians, they have significant Iranic ancestry, they are mixed with Armenians but still aren't close to them.

Second, Pontians are from Inland, OP is from Inland.

[Livin]

No, not really. As i said, Anatolia is a diverse place. Northern parts, for example, is more Caucasus shifted. Aegean area has a shift towards South Europe. It's not true that every Turk is modelled as "Half-Armenian/half-Oghuz" or similar, if you were implying it. Here the results of a Western Anatolian Turk, just for comparison:

As i said,depends the individual and the region.Modern turks are closer with azeris but they do not have extremely big central asian admixture.It goes 8-30% depends.Ofc i am not putting some other groups like kurds,laz and minorities.But anatolia was always something like Armenians etc.You can see also the samples.

[Marmara]

People in western turkey and aegean-coast greeks from there have more anatolian neolithic and more western hunter gathener thats all.Thats why they clusther with other greeks and south italians.Eastern Turkey is armenian/assyrian like.Totally lucks WHG and steppe admixtures.

Kurds have Steppe admixture

Only you guys don't.

[Livin]

Kurds have Steppe admixture

Only you guys don't.

Kurds have assimilated armenians and assyrian like people.Hadouken was armenian btw xdddd. ;)

[Livin]

Would you be surprised if you had steppe HG admixture?


I would be european xdd....:cool:

[Tauromachos]

I don't know what Cybernautic is trying to prove, these people are West Asians it's proven by genetics.

West Asian is an empty word

West Asians are at least as diverse as modern Greeks or Italians are

I would say even more

Its bogus to believe otherwise.

[Georgia]

Is he Greek? Do you have his phone number?

[Marmara]

Kurds have assimilated armenians and assyrian like people.Hadouken was armenian btw xdddd. ;)

He still had Iranic ancestry.

It's easy to spot Iranic ancestry on Kurds, they score significant South Asian like Iranians and other Iranics while Armenians and Assyrians don't.

He also had steppe admixture higher than Armenians.

[Livin]

He still had Iranic ancestry.

It's easy to spot Iranic ancestry on Kurds, they score significant South Asian like Iranians and other Iranics while Armenians and Assyrians don't.

He also had steppe admixture higher than Armenians.

I know,hadouken btw looked totally anatolian/armenian and not Iranic.

[Joso]

gracile-med

[Livin]

Is he Greek? Do you have his phone number?

Depends what you consider Greek xddd :rofl_002::rofl_002::rofl_002:

[Marmara]

West Asian is an empty word

West Asians are at least as diverse as modern Greeks or Italians are

I would say even more

Its bogus to believe otherwise.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?225237-4-Anatolian-Greeks-gedmatch-results

[rein]

He still had Iranic ancestry.

It's easy to spot Iranic ancestry on Kurds, they score significant South Asian like Iranians and other Iranics while Armenians and Assyrians don't.

He also had steppe admixture higher than Armenians.

Hadouken always said that he scores very little south Asian.

[Livin]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?225237-4-Anatolian-Greeks-gedmatch-results

Why he is banned?I want hadouken back....:mad:

[Marmara]

I know,hadouken btw looked totally anatolian/armenian and not Iranic.

He looks like a stereotypical Kurd.

If he looks Anatolian it means he can pass for Pontic Greek.

[Georgia]

Depends what you consider Greek xddd :rofl_002::rofl_002::rofl_002:

Is he? I am asking for a friend :D

[Livin]

Is he? I am asking for a friend :D

I think so xddd :confused:

[Dorian]

I know,hadouken btw looked totally anatolian/armenian and not Iranic.

No way,he looked from azeri to pashtun man.

[Livin]

He looks like a stereotypical Kurd.

If he looks Anatolian it means he can pass for Pontic Greek.

Not exactly.Armenians do not look the same with Pontians even if they are genetically pretty much the same.Assyrians too.He had the Pontic hyperbrachy head but his face was atypical.As for kurd,i don't think kurds in iraq look the same with kurds in turkey...

[Seth MacFarlane]

West Asian is an empty word

West Asians are at least as diverse as modern Greeks or Italians are

I would say even more

Its bogus to believe otherwise.

Well that is true , after all west Asians like Turks and levantines are also mediterrans like Greeks and Italians

[Tauromachos]

Is he? I am asking for a friend :D

For catgeorge or Kaido he isn't real Greek

Otherwise he is modern Greek as it seems with origins from Pontus and Cappadocia

[Kivan]

As i said,depends the individual and the region.Modern turks are closer with azeris but they do not have extremely big central asian admixture.It goes 8-30% depends.Ofc i am not putting some other groups like kurds,laz and minorities.But anatolia was always something like Armenians etc.You can see also the samples.

I think Armenians plot closer to Assyrians/Mesopotamians, not to Anatolians. Turks in far Eastern regions might plot closer to Armenians because people in such are are rather assimilated Armenians.

Depending on the chart we plot close to some Caucasian group. In this one it show us as close to Georgians/Abkhazians:
http://www.nevgen.org/PCA%20charts/PCA%20Europe%20and%20vicinity%20axis%203-1%20a.png

Althouth i think it's just an average. Native people from far Southern Anatolia, for example, probably plot closer to Cypriots while those from Northern parts, more closer to Georgians/Laz, i guess.

[Seth MacFarlane]

He looks like a stereotypical Kurd.

If he looks Anatolian it means he can pass for Pontic Greek.

Hadouken didn’t look stereotypical Kurd by any means . Sometimes stereotypical Kurdish look can overlap with the neighboring ethnicities but he doesent have that imo , hadouken looks very armenian like .

[Livin]

No way,he looked from azeri to pashtun man.

Azeri probably but pashtun hell no.

[Dorian]

For catgeorge or Kaido he isn't real Greek

Otherwise he is modern Greek as it seems with origins from Pontus and Cappadocia

I don't like your stance ,you should also put me,nightrider&faklon in that list.

[Tauromachos]

Hadouken didn’t look stereotypical Kurd by any means . Sometimes stereotypical Kurdish look can overlap with the neighboring ethnicities but he doesent have that imo , hadouken looks very armenian like .

I don't know i think he looks like what is called Anadolid
,a mix between Armenoid and Med

[Dorian]

Azeri probably but pashtun hell no.

He needs some beard and he passes here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_MyUGq7pgs

[Tauromachos]

I don't like your stance ,you should also put me,nightrider&faklon in that list.

Sorry :)

[Marmara]

Not exactly.Armenians do not look the same with Pontians even if they are genetically pretty much the same.Assyrians too.He had the Pontic hyperbrachy head but his face was atypical.As for kurd,i don't think kurds in iraq look the same with kurds in turkey...

Pontic Greek look is much more Anatolian than Armenian look.

Anatolia was inhabited almost entirely by Hellenophones.

This is Anatolia

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/AnatolieLimits.jpg

Armenians lived outside the border, in Armenian Highlands.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRQtoWBx18EWE4_4e7UIKFf4Zf1eeX hSOm5DK8mobUZHkCHZ7_i

[Livin]

Hadouken didn’t look stereotypical Kurd by any means . Sometimes stereotypical Kurdish look can overlap with the neighboring ethnicities but he doesent have that imo , hadouken looks very armenian like .

I had some argues with him,when i told him that some Kurds in my city look Iranid and they have dolichocephalic skulls and when also i google kurds i am seeing only swarthy dolicho-hooked nosed people xddd

[Seth MacFarlane]

I don't know i think he looks like what is called Anadolid
,a mix between Armenoid and Med

His look is common in Armenians too , the phenotype itself is more stereotypical of Turks proper because turkey has more Mediterranean’s gnerally but Armenia also has many meds of the pontid variety . But for what is worth he was only slight med , even tho his nose wasnt extreme in profile he is still predominantly armenoid imo

[nafz]

Anatolid. This is one type of look which is shared between some Greek and Turkish persons.

[Kivan]

I had some argues with him,when i told him that some Kurds in my city look Iranid and they have dolichocephalic skulls and when also i google kurds i am seeing only swarthy dolicho-hooked nosed people xddd

Most people he posted looked brachy/Dinarized. However Kurds from Turkey look different from those from Syria or Iran, i think.

[Livin]

Pontic Greek look is much more Anatolian than Armenian look.

Anatolia was inhabited almost entirely by Hellenophones.

This is Anatolia

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/AnatolieLimits.jpg

Armenians lived outside the border, in Armenian Highlands.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRQtoWBx18EWE4_4e7UIKFf4Zf1eeX hSOm5DK8mobUZHkCHZ7_i

Thats true.The fact that Pontians and Armenians are genetically pretty much the same along with assyrians does not mean that we look the same.Ofc there are similarities,but i will agree with you that Pontians looking like Anatolians and more specific in the area of Black sea.You can see some very swarthy med types witch they obviously have neolithic anatolian background and on the other hand you can see some very brachycephalic armenoid-dinarid-caucasusid types.Alpines also are very popular among us.

[Marmara]

Hadouken didn’t look stereotypical Kurd by any means . Sometimes stereotypical Kurdish look can overlap with the neighboring ethnicities but he doesent have that imo , hadouken looks very armenian like .

I live in Turkey, country where most Kurds in the world live.

I live in Istanbul, the city with most kurds in the world (around 4 millions)

Give me fucking credit.

[Marmara]

Most people he posted looked brachy/Dinarized. However Kurds from Turkey look different from those from Syria or Iran, i think.

They don't.

Except only Tunceli Alevis which Hadouken always was posting.

[Livin]

Anatolid. This is one type of look which is shared between some Greek and Turkish persons.

You think his skull is brachycephalic?

[rein]

I live in Turkey, country where most Kurds in the world live.

I live in Istanbul, the city with most kurds in the world (around 4 millions)

Give me fucking credit.

How many ethnic Turks are in Istanbul?

[Seth MacFarlane]

I live in Turkey, country where most Kurds in the world live.

I live in Istanbul, the city with most kurds in the world (around 4 millions)

Give me fucking credit.

Lmaoo ill give you your credit bro , if hadouken look is as stereotypical Kurd as u say it’s only furthering my belief that many Kurds and Armenians look alike . But that should be no surprise , genitics aren’t far off and they have similiar phenotypes. There’s interchangeable west Asian phenotypes

[nafz]

You think his skull is brachycephalic?

Not sure, probably brachy to meso intermediate.

[Marmara]

How many ethnic Turks are in Istanbul?

There are no statistics about it.

But a random person from the street is very likely not going to be ethnic Turkish, but it also depends on the district.

[Livin]

Most people he posted looked brachy/Dinarized. However Kurds from Turkey look different from those from Syria or Iran, i think.

Some kurds in here are very swarthy with totally dolichocephalic skulls and lean bodies.They look Iranic as hell.I don't know what to say...

[Livin]

Not sure, probably brachy to meso intermediate.

He is hypsicranic indeed but i think his face is med.Maybe his nose belongs to taurid group....not sure too.

[rein]

There are no statistics about it.

But a random person from the street is very likely not going to be ethnic Turkish, but it also depends on the district.

Interesting. I’m guessing there are a lot of Levantines and Bosniaks in the city.

[Kivan]

Some kurds in here are very swarthy with totally dolichocephalic skulls and lean bodies.They look Iranic as hell.I don't know what to say...


They don't.

Except only Tunceli Alevis which Hadouken always was posting.

Maybe you are right. I was seeing photos from some Kurdish provinces and most people don't look very different from Iranians.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/crowd-pictures-of-eastern-anatolian-city-van-t49275.html

[Marmara]

Some kurds in here are very swarthy with totally dolichocephalic skulls and lean bodies.They look Iranic as hell.I don't know what to say...

I didn't want to argue with Hadouken but it's true.

They are closest to Iranians both genetically and physically.

Some even look straight Afghan.

[Livin]

I didn't want to argue with Hadouken but it's true.

They are closest to Iranians both genetically and physically.

Some even look straight Afghan.

I remember one day hadouken arguing with Aren about Kurds genetics.Hadouken was trying to prove they are not Iranics xddd :lol::lol::lol:

[rein]

I remember one day hadouken arguing with Aren about Kurds genetics.Hadouken was trying to prove they are not Iranics xddd :lol::lol::lol:

Is Aren still active on this forum? Didnt see any of his posts recently.

[Livin]

Is Aren still active on this forum? Didnt see any of his posts recently.

No idea i am back a week ago.Aren was my first friend in here and probably the most knowledge person about genetics in here IMO.Hadouken was in a bad day,when Aren told him that kurds in Turkey are assilimated armenian/assyrian like people xdddd :cool:

[Marmara]

I remember one day hadouken arguing with Aren about Kurds genetics.Hadouken was trying to prove they are not Iranics xddd :lol::lol::lol:


No idea i am back a week ago.Aren was my first friend in here and probably the most knowledge person about genetics in here IMO.Hadouken was in a bad day,when Aren told him that kurds in Turkey are assilimated armenian/assyrian like people xdddd :cool:

If Kurds are neither Iranics nor assimilated Assyrians/Armenians, what are they?

[rein]

If Kurds are neither Iranics nor assimilated Assyrians/Armenians, what are they?

A breed of their own.

[FinalFlash]

I think Armenians plot closer to Assyrians/Mesopotamians, not to Anatolians. Turks in far Eastern regions might plot closer to Armenians because people in such are are rather assimilated Armenians.

Depending on the chart we plot close to some Caucasian group. In this one it show us as close to Georgians/Abkhazians:
http://www.nevgen.org/PCA%20charts/PCA%20Europe%20and%20vicinity%20axis%203-1%20a.png

Althouth i think it's just an average. Native people from far Southern Anatolia, for example, probably plot closer to Cypriots while those from Northern parts, more closer to Georgians/Laz, i guess.

Most of those samples plot closer to Georgians and Turks. If Black sea turks, pontians and laz were available on these plots, then they'd be closest to Armenians.

[Kivan]

If Kurds are neither Iranics nor assimilated Assyrians/Armenians, what are they?

I hope Hadouken is not seeing this thread. xD

[rein]

I hope Hadouken is not seeing this thread. xD

Maybe he is.

[Livin]

If Kurds are neither Iranics nor assimilated Assyrians/Armenians, what are they?

DUNNO.IMO kurds are the most confusing group when it comes to genetics and anthropology STUFF.I do not believe that Kurds from all the regions in middle east are exactly the same but anyways.

[FinalFlash]

Hadouken might just read all this and create another profile.

[rein]

Is anyone still in touch with Hadouken?
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=50487&page=3

[Livin]

Is anyone still in touch with Hadouken?
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=50487&page=3

Bring him back.He was a good guy!!!

[rein]

Bring him back.He was a good guy!!!

What was he banned for anyways?

[Livin]

What was he banned for anyways?

Are you asking me?I am here almost a week after 2 months.

[Token]

DUNNO.IMO kurds are the most confusing group when it comes to genetics and anthropology STUFF.I do not believe that Kurds from all the regions in middle east are exactly the same but anyways.

Kurds are genetically very similar to Iranians.

[Livin]

Kurds are genetically very similar to Iranians.

But hadouken was trying to prove they are west asians mostly...

[Marmara]

DUNNO.IMO kurds are the most confusing group when it comes to genetics and anthropology STUFF.I do not believe that Kurds from all the regions in middle east are exactly the same but anyways.

Turkey is a big country, nobody really notices a difference between Kurds from different provinces except for Tunceli Alevi Zazas whom are said to be the whitest Kurds.

But even then, this guy is from Tunceli

https://iasbh.tmgrup.com.tr/1cc2f0/366/218/0/0/391/233?u=https://isbh.tmgrup.com.tr/sbh/2018/01/18/onur-buldu-kimdir-1516264704165.jpg

[Token]

But hadouken was trying to prove they are west asians mostly...

Iranians are West Asians.

[Livin]

Turkey is a big country, nobody really notices a difference between Kurds from different provinces except for Tunceli Alevi Zazas whom are said to be the whitest Kurds.

But even then, this guy is from Tunceli

https://iasbh.tmgrup.com.tr/1cc2f0/366/218/0/0/391/233?u=https://isbh.tmgrup.com.tr/sbh/2018/01/18/onur-buldu-kimdir-1516264704165.jpg

UBER WEST ASIAN look.

[Livin]

Iranians are West Asians.

I mean he was trying to prove that they are not in the same group with Iranians and other Iranics.

[Token]

I mean he was trying to prove that they are not in the same group with Iranians and other Iranics.

Well, they are. Hadouken can't change the reality.

[Livin]

Well, they are. Hadouken can't change the reality.

i told him one day,in my city the majority of Kurds are dolichocephalic,swarthy with lean bodies and hooked noses and he was upset xddd :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

But i remember one day Aren was telling him that Kurds in Turkey are Iranic witch have asslimated armenian/assyrian like people.He was again upset and was trying to prove the different xddd.

[rein]

Turkey is a big country, nobody really notices a difference between Kurds from different provinces except for Tunceli Alevi Zazas whom are said to be the whitest Kurds.

But even then, this guy is from Tunceli

https://iasbh.tmgrup.com.tr/1cc2f0/366/218/0/0/391/233?u=https://isbh.tmgrup.com.tr/sbh/2018/01/18/onur-buldu-kimdir-1516264704165.jpg

Is this how Alevi Zazas look?
https://im.haberturk.com/2013/05/30/ver1369898533/848731_detay.jpg

[Comocudostrouxas]

Overtanned Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Post pics with natural light and without excessive tan otherwise it will distort the classifications since most people only pay attention to coloring.

[Livin]

Overtanned Atlanto-Mediterranean.

Post pics with natural light and without excessive tan otherwise it will distort the classifications since most people only pay attention to coloring.

He is swarthy without tan dude.He has pretty much the same skin colour with me.I agree that he is med and not armenoid or orientalid...

[Comocudostrouxas]

He is swarthy without tan dude.He has pretty much the same skin colour with me.I agree that he is med and not armenoid or orientalid...

Most pics of him you posted he's in an environment that is sunny (likely beaches).

[Livin]

Most pics of him you posted he's in an environment that is sunny (likely beaches).

Thats true but still his skin colour is not much different.

[rein]

Thats true but still his skin colour is not much different.

He looks orange, so maybe fake tan.

[Livin]

He looks orange, so maybe fake tan.

Do you think he pass in Lebanon?

[rein]

Do you think he pass in Lebanon?

Better ask haider.

[Comocudostrouxas]

Do you think he pass in Lebanon?

His best fits are South Europe + Anatolia. Anatolians aren't much darker than Southern Europeans and likely overlap more with them than with Arabs.

[Livin]

Better ask haider.

Who???

[Marmara]

His skin color looks real.

[Livin]

His best fits are South Europe + Anatolia. Anatolians aren't much darker than Southern Europeans and likely overlap more with them than with Arabs.

His eyes giving a west asian vibe IMO.I have pretty much this type of eyes(almond).Its must be an anatolian trait...

[Seth MacFarlane]

Who???

Lebanese user

[Comocudostrouxas]

His eyes giving a west asian vibe IMO.I have pretty much this type of eyes(almond).Its must be an anatolian trait...

I don't know how you look like, but this guy isn't specifically West Asian, can pass in Europe too.

[Marmara]

I don't know how you look like, but this guy isn't specifically West Asian, can pass in Europe too.

If a Spanish person passes Greek, does it mean he is not Spanish/doesn't look Spanish?

[Comocudostrouxas]

If a Spanish person passes Greek, does it mean he is not Spanish/doesn't look Spanish?

No and I'm not saying this, I'm saying he doesn't pass only in West Asia, despite being Anatolian.

[Marmara]

No and I'm not saying this, I'm saying he doesn't pass only in West Asia, despite being Anatolian.

Anatolian Greeks are actually genetically closest to proper Greeks.

This is a Cappadocian Greek


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 43.19
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.39
3 Near_East 13.63
4 South_Central_Asian 11.23
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.68
6 North_African 4.52
7 South_East_Asian 1.02
8 Ancestral_Altaic 0.79
9 South_Indian 0.72
10 East_Siberian 0.5
11 Paleo_Siberian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cretan ( ) 5.93
2 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 5.99
3 Cypriot ( ) 6.49
4 Azov_Greek ( ) 7.15
5 Syrian_Jew ( ) 8.03
6 Greek_Islands ( ) 8.05
7 Greek ( ) 8.41
8 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 8.43
9 Greek_Athens ( ) 9.11
10 Italian_South ( ) 9.46
11 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 9.78
12 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 9.81
13 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 10.19
14 Lebanese_Muslim ( ) 10.42
15 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 10.53
16 Turk ( ) 10.54
17 Romanian_Jew ( ) 10.56
18 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 11.14
19 Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) 11.3
20 Central_Greek ( ) 11.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.9% Iranian_Jew ( ) @ 1.7
2 51.9% Italian_South ( ) + 48.1% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 1.77
3 73.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.1% Kurd_Jew ( ) @ 1.83
4 55.7% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) + 44.3% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.84
5 67.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 32.7% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 1.85
6 73.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.5% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 1.86
7 67% Greek_Islands ( ) + 33% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 1.95
8 73% Cretan ( ) + 27% Jew_Tat ( ) @ 1.95
9 51.6% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) + 48.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 1.99
10 59.9% Greek_Islands ( ) + 40.1% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2
11 77.8% Cretan ( ) + 22.2% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.04
12 55.8% Italian_South ( ) + 44.2% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.04
13 57.1% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 42.9% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.07
14 52.9% Greek_Athens ( ) + 47.1% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.09
15 78.9% Cretan ( ) + 21.1% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.12
16 51.5% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 48.5% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.16
17 67.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 32.5% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.16
18 78.1% Cretan ( ) + 21.9% Armenian ( ) @ 2.2
19 64.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 35.9% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.21
20 55.3% Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) + 44.7% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.22

Only Pontic Greeks are purely Armenian.

[Comocudostrouxas]

Anatolian Greeks are actually genetically closest to proper Greeks.

This is a Cappadocian Greek


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 43.19
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.39
3 Near_East 13.63
4 South_Central_Asian 11.23
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.68
6 North_African 4.52
7 South_East_Asian 1.02
8 Ancestral_Altaic 0.79
9 South_Indian 0.72
10 East_Siberian 0.5
11 Paleo_Siberian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cretan ( ) 5.93
2 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 5.99
3 Cypriot ( ) 6.49
4 Azov_Greek ( ) 7.15
5 Syrian_Jew ( ) 8.03
6 Greek_Islands ( ) 8.05
7 Greek ( ) 8.41
8 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 8.43
9 Greek_Athens ( ) 9.11
10 Italian_South ( ) 9.46
11 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 9.78
12 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 9.81
13 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 10.19
14 Lebanese_Muslim ( ) 10.42
15 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 10.53
16 Turk ( ) 10.54
17 Romanian_Jew ( ) 10.56
18 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 11.14
19 Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) 11.3
20 Central_Greek ( ) 11.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.9% Iranian_Jew ( ) @ 1.7
2 51.9% Italian_South ( ) + 48.1% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 1.77
3 73.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.1% Kurd_Jew ( ) @ 1.83
4 55.7% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) + 44.3% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.84
5 67.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 32.7% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 1.85
6 73.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.5% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 1.86
7 67% Greek_Islands ( ) + 33% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 1.95
8 73% Cretan ( ) + 27% Jew_Tat ( ) @ 1.95
9 51.6% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) + 48.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 1.99
10 59.9% Greek_Islands ( ) + 40.1% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2
11 77.8% Cretan ( ) + 22.2% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.04
12 55.8% Italian_South ( ) + 44.2% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.04
13 57.1% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 42.9% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.07
14 52.9% Greek_Athens ( ) + 47.1% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.09
15 78.9% Cretan ( ) + 21.1% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.12
16 51.5% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 48.5% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.16
17 67.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 32.5% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.16
18 78.1% Cretan ( ) + 21.9% Armenian ( ) @ 2.2
19 64.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 35.9% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.21
20 55.3% Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) + 44.7% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.22

Only Pontic Greeks are purely Armenian.

Pontic Greeks likely aren't ''Armenian'', they are more like eastern Anatolians, they may overlap with Armenians but they are different culturally and they have different identity. Calling them ''Armenian'' is like calling some Turks Kurdish or Greek due to superficial similarity in DNA.

Identity isn't 100% derived from autossomal composition. I'm not Greek and I have no relation with them, but I think Pontic Greeks are as Greek as Greeks from Greece.

[KingOf]

2 more pure Cappadocian Greeks
how common are they for Turkey?

https://www.patrasevents.gr/imgsrv/f/full/2818151.jpg
https://www.maximos.gr/images/ypoyrgos.jpg

[Marmara]

2 more pure Cappadocian Greeks
how common are they for Turkey?

https://www.patrasevents.gr/imgsrv/f/full/2818151.jpg
https://www.maximos.gr/images/ypoyrgos.jpg

They look Greek to me.

[KingOf]

They look Greek to me.

still if they dna test they are probably going to deviate from Greek average significantly... yet many people here think genotype/phenotype is exact same thing

[Morena]

Med. Can fit in anywhere in S. Europe. Very handsome 8/10.

[FinalFlash]

Pontic Greeks likely aren't ''Armenian'', they are more like eastern Anatolians, they may overlap with Armenians but they are different culturally and they have different identity. Calling them ''Armenian'' is like calling some Turks Kurdish or Greek due to superficial similarity in DNA.

Identity isn't 100% derived from autossomal composition. I'm not Greek and I have no relation with them, but I think Pontic Greeks are as Greek as Greeks from Greece.

There is no such thing as "eastern Anatolian". That phrase is nonsensical and was put into use to erase the more proper 'Armenian Highlands'.

[Livin]

Anatolian Greeks are actually genetically closest to proper Greeks.

This is a Cappadocian Greek


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 43.19
2 European_Early_Farmers 17.39
3 Near_East 13.63
4 South_Central_Asian 11.23
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.68
6 North_African 4.52
7 South_East_Asian 1.02
8 Ancestral_Altaic 0.79
9 South_Indian 0.72
10 East_Siberian 0.5
11 Paleo_Siberian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cretan ( ) 5.93
2 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 5.99
3 Cypriot ( ) 6.49
4 Azov_Greek ( ) 7.15
5 Syrian_Jew ( ) 8.03
6 Greek_Islands ( ) 8.05
7 Greek ( ) 8.41
8 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 8.43
9 Greek_Athens ( ) 9.11
10 Italian_South ( ) 9.46
11 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 9.78
12 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 9.81
13 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 10.19
14 Lebanese_Muslim ( ) 10.42
15 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 10.53
16 Turk ( ) 10.54
17 Romanian_Jew ( ) 10.56
18 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 11.14
19 Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) 11.3
20 Central_Greek ( ) 11.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.9% Iranian_Jew ( ) @ 1.7
2 51.9% Italian_South ( ) + 48.1% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 1.77
3 73.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.1% Kurd_Jew ( ) @ 1.83
4 55.7% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) + 44.3% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.84
5 67.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 32.7% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 1.85
6 73.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 26.5% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 1.86
7 67% Greek_Islands ( ) + 33% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 1.95
8 73% Cretan ( ) + 27% Jew_Tat ( ) @ 1.95
9 51.6% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) + 48.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 1.99
10 59.9% Greek_Islands ( ) + 40.1% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2
11 77.8% Cretan ( ) + 22.2% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.04
12 55.8% Italian_South ( ) + 44.2% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.04
13 57.1% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 42.9% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.07
14 52.9% Greek_Athens ( ) + 47.1% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.09
15 78.9% Cretan ( ) + 21.1% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.12
16 51.5% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 48.5% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 2.16
17 67.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 32.5% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.16
18 78.1% Cretan ( ) + 21.9% Armenian ( ) @ 2.2
19 64.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 35.9% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.21
20 55.3% Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) + 44.7% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.22

Only Pontic Greeks are purely Armenian.

This is definitely not a cappadocian greek gedmatch.


Take a look here and check the differences between all the groups in black sea including armenian hemshins.Pontics have more neolithic anatolian and lack steep admixture.Cappadocians are closer with us rather with these of the aegean.


https://easternblackseadna.blogspot.com

[Livin]

2 more pure Cappadocian Greeks
how common are they for Turkey?

https://www.patrasevents.gr/imgsrv/f/full/2818151.jpg
https://www.maximos.gr/images/ypoyrgos.jpg

Are you sure these 2 men are pure cappadocians?Because they look natives to me.Cappadocians are very swarthy the majority and some of them are blonde and look Nordic(because they assilimated the gauls of anatolia).

Look a pure cappadocian.

84265

[Rgvgjhvv]

He has pretty much the same skin colour with me.

I hate your guts

[KingOf]

Are you sure these 2 men are pure cappadocians?Because they look natives to me.Cappadocians are very swarthy the majority and some of them are blonde and look Nordic(because they assilimated the gauls of anatolia).

Look a pure cappadocian.

84265

Κεδικογλου και Χαρακοπουλος αν θες να ελεγξεις... εννοειται πως εχουν ορισμενοι εχουν πολυ εξωτικους φαινοτυπους δεν αντιλεγω αλλα μεγαλοποιουνται αρκετα οι διαφορες κατα τη γνωμη μου

[Rgvgjhvv]

Κεδικογλου και Χαρακοπουλος αν θες να ελεγξεις... εννοειται πως εχουν ορισμενοι εχουν πολυ εξωτικους φαινοτυπους δεν αντιλεγω αλλα μεγαλοποιουνται αρκετα οι διαφορες κατα τη γνωμη μου

Of course it is lol but he's crazy

[Tauromachos]

Κεδικογλου και Χαρακοπουλος αν θες να ελεγξεις... εννοειται πως εχουν ορισμενοι εχουν πολυ εξωτικους φαινοτυπους δεν αντιλεγω αλλα μεγαλοποιουνται αρκετα οι διαφορες κατα τη γνωμη μου

Ετσι

[KingOf]

Of course it is lol but he's crazy


Ετσι

:p

[Tauromachos]

:p

Livin is a troll

An evil clownhttps://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1200x1200/public/wire/legacy/Pennywise-the-clown.jpg?itok=a6HDXPeX&timestamp=1497663261

[KingOf]

Livin is a troll

An evil clownhttps://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1200x1200/public/wire/legacy/Pennywise-the-clown.jpg?itok=a6HDXPeX×tamp=1497663261

haha i try to stay away from civil wars as much as possible

[Dorian]

Are you sure these 2 men are pure cappadocians?Because they look natives to me.Cappadocians are very swarthy the majority and some of them are blonde and look Nordic(because they assilimated the gauls of anatolia).

Look a pure cappadocian.

84265

It was the same site that I found the Cretan guy,I've seen all the players..I think this guy had an -idis surname,how do you know he's cappadocian?

[Tauromachos]

haha i try to stay away from civil wars as much as possible
:thumb001:

[Livin]

It was the same site that I found the Cretan guy,I've seen all the players..I think this guy had an -idis surname,how do you know he's cappadocian?

He was my classmate,half pontian and cappadocian.

[KingOf]

It was the same site that I found the Cretan guy,I've seen all the players..I think this guy had an -idis surname,how do you know he's cappadocian?

αυτο το σαιτ δεν πρεπει να δημοσιευτει εδω... χαμος θα γινει

[KingOf]

He was my classmate,half pontian and cappadocian.

have you seen his family?
if yes how did they look like?

[Livin]

Κεδικογλου και Χαρακοπουλος αν θες να ελεγξεις... εννοειται πως εχουν ορισμενοι εχουν πολυ εξωτικους φαινοτυπους δεν αντιλεγω αλλα μεγαλοποιουνται αρκετα οι διαφορες κατα τη γνωμη μου

I meant if they are both pure cappadocians and not from one person.Because modern people are mixed but anyways.Cappadocians are a few so its not an important group to focus about genetics and classification.The majority of them are between Pontic Greeks and aegean islanders when it comes on genetics.In anthropology depends.I have seen some swarthy meds,alpines,some Armenoid-med mix and many blondes who look nordocromanoid with western european faces.They have assimilated the gauls of anatolia.

[Tauromachos]

It was the same site that I found the Cretan guy,I've seen all the players..I think this guy had an -idis surname,how do you know he's cappadocian?

And why do you think he can't be pure Cappadocian?

I don't know of course..

But here you can see some Cappadocian Greeks doing traditional dances,
how they look like

Of course their language has alot of Turkish influence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqUVlAOG0tA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsfespoaGtc

[Livin]

have you seen his family?
if yes how did they look like?

Both of his parents are light haired with blue eyes.His father is some form of light haired alpine and his mother looks european as fuck.His sisters are all blondes too!!!

[Dorian]

αυτο το σαιτ δεν πρεπει να δημοσιευτει εδω... χαμος θα γινει

Kala xamos ginetai panta sta ellinika thread alla giati to les?

[Dorian]

Both of his parents are light haired with blue eyes.His father is some form of light haired alpine and his mother looks european as fuck.His sisters are all blondes too!!!

His beard if grown must be red,am I right?

[KingOf]

Kala xamos ginetai panta sta ellinika thread alla giati to les?

ειχε πολλους ατυπικαλς κατα τη γνωμη μου

[KingOf]

I meant if they are both pure cappadocians and not from one person.Because modern people are mixed but anyways.Cappadocians are a few so its not an important group to focus about genetics and classification.The majority of them are between Pontic Greeks and aegean islanders when it comes on genetics.In anthropology depends.I have seen some swarthy meds,alpines,some Armenoid-med mix and many blondes who look nordocromanoid with western european faces.They have assimilated the gauls of anatolia.

harakopoulos pure but i couldn't find more info on kedikoglou

[Livin]

His beard if grown must be red,am I right?

Yes.He was in PAOK before,now somewhere in Crete i think.

[Marmara]

I meant if they are both pure cappadocians and not from one person.Because modern people are mixed but anyways.Cappadocians are a few so its not an important group to focus about genetics and classification.The majority of them are between Pontic Greeks and aegean islanders when it comes on genetics.In anthropology depends.I have seen some swarthy meds,alpines,some Armenoid-med mix and many blondes who look nordocromanoid with western european faces.They have assimilated the gauls of anatolia.

This is a Turkish guy from Cappadocia.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2fSjd5DyTNa_8Qu0XaIWfMMjyqllnZ WphVNZKyuV7c_PDUZ-Jg5MMaPKILg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBU6iWSXsAAbPZ0.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCFUrodf8fZXW4DDZtF2ODQ7gIjoyj2 dTgywvDDGpmNAXOpmzbqYsy1QNZAA

But he isn't blond, finding blonds in that region is very hard.

[Tauromachos]

This is a Turkish guy from Cappadocia.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2fSjd5DyTNa_8Qu0XaIWfMMjyqllnZ WphVNZKyuV7c_PDUZ-Jg5MMaPKILg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBU6iWSXsAAbPZ0.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCFUrodf8fZXW4DDZtF2ODQ7gIjoyj2 dTgywvDDGpmNAXOpmzbqYsy1QNZAA

But he isn't blond, finding blonds in that region is very hard.


He is dark blond

He looks like a West European Atlantid or Atlanto Med type

[dosas]

Pontians of the south shores, Trabzon etc., do not overlap with Armenians but with Laz. Armenians were a hostile and antagonist ethnic group to medieval Trebizond Rums, up until and during the mass exodus of the early twentieth century, and were not assimilated, religiously or otherwise, unlike the Laz and/or Georgians.

You guys are clueless when it comes to history, no offense.

[Livin]

Pontians of the south shores, Trabzon etc., do not overlap with Armenians but with Laz. Armenians were a hostile and antagonist ethnic group to medieval Trebizond Rums, up until and during the mass exodus of the early twentieth century, and were not assimilated, religiously or otherwise, unlike the Laz and/or Georgians.

You guys are clueless when it comes to history, no offense.

All these west asian groups have not big genetic diffrences.Laz people have more steppe ancestry when Pontians got more neolithic anatolian.On ydna there are some diffrences ofc.But Pontians do not plot in the caucasus group like chechens,ossetians and other caucasus people but with other mesopotamians like armenians,assyrians,etc.

https://easternblackseadna.blogspot.com/

You can see here for more info.

[Livin]

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