Classify Iranian Persian man

[Oghuz]

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[Dna8]

I would place his aesthetic firmly within the European Range.

No wonder Persians often mistake me for one of their own..

[Oghuz]

I would place his aesthetic firmly within the European Range.

No wonder Persians often mistake me for one of their own..

I would not. No matter how much we Iranians, Turks etc groom ourselves we always look like what we are. This man in my opinion would fit in Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan better than any other country.

[Dna8]

I would not. No matter how much we Iranians, Turks etc groom ourselves we always look like what we are. This man in my opinion would fit in Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan better than any other country.

To be clear, I'd include all those countries within the broader Europid Aesthetic..

But, fair enough.

[Oghuz]

To be clear, I'd include all those countries within the broader Europid Aesthetic..

But, fair enough.

Off course. I agree with you with the europid term.

[Papastratosels26]

Iranid

[Gangrel]

Irano-Med + Alpine

[Fibonacci]

I would place his aesthetic firmly within the European Range.

No wonder Persians often mistake me for one of their own..

Iranians can recognize each other not from phenotype or skin tone but the placement of facial features. Despite the massive diversity of phenotypes and general appearance in Iran, I can easily recognize an Iranian from literally hundreds of meters away. It's a strange ability which I can't explain but what I can say is that Iranians have a distinct facial feature pattern which our brains can easily recognize.

Even the lightest Iranians like Muhammed ghalibaf who can fit in northern europe, has a typical Iranian look in my eyes. It's the shape and distance between facial features. This is why it's harder for surrounding populations to pass in Iran, Pakistanis, Arabs and Turkmen don't have the that Iranian look to pass. No matter how Iranid they are. this look is specifically concentrated in Iran and hard to find in other places. I've seen Iranids from surrounding countries and 90% of them don't look Iranian nor would I mistake them as such. They have foreign elements in their facial features

[Dna8]

Iranians can recognize each other not from phenotype or skin tone but the placement of facial features. Despite the massive diversity of phenotypes and general appearance in Iran, I can easily recognize an Iranian from literally hundreds of meters away. It's a strange ability which I can't explain but what I can say is that Iranians have a distinct facial feature pattern which our brains can easily recognize.

Even the lightest Iranians like Muhammed ghalibaf who can fit in northern europe, has a typical Iranian look in my eyes. It's the shape and distance between facial features. This is why it's harder for surrounding populations to pass in Iran, Pakistanis, Arabs and Turkmen don't have the that Iranian look to pass. No matter how Iranid they are. this look is specifically concentrated in Iran and hard to find in other places. I've seen Iranids from surrounding countries and 90% of them don't look Iranian nor would I mistake them as such. They have foreign elements in their facial features

I can relate to what you have written (in my case, in the exYugo context)

[cyberlorian]

Mediterranid

[The Blade]

Irano-Nordid + CM.

[barkoo]

Atlanto-Med mostly.

[Ylla]

Atlantomed

[Karkurdu]

I would not. No matter how much we Iranians, Turks etc groom ourselves we always look like what we are. This man in my opinion would fit in Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan better than any other country.

Turks and Iranians don't even look similar my kıro. Don't put yourself into the same basket with us.

[Oghuz]

Turks and Iranians don't even look similar my kıro. Don't put yourself into the same basket with us.

Fixed. Reported for childish abuse.

[Oghuz]

Irano-Nordid + CM.

I do not see any nordid in him. To be fair I do not understand the classification Irano Nordoid.

[Phenix]

Iranid + Med + CM.

[Oghuz]

Iranid + Med + CM.

Agreed. Iranid and CM is strong.

[Phenix]

Agreed. Iranid and CM is strong.

How common is his phenotype?

[Oghuz]

How common is his phenotype?

Iran is very diverse but I would say general appearance wise he will look more fitting in Iranian Azerbaijan.

https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg

[Phenix]

Iran is very diverse but I would say general appearance wise he will look more fitting in Iranian Azerbaijan.

https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg

با تشكر

[Fibonacci]

با تشكر
Are you an Arab or is that Google translate

[Freeroostah]

Ancient Iranic nomad look

[Oghuz]

Ancient Iranic nomad look

You mean very typical Iranid phenotype ?

[Phenix]

Are you an Arab or is that Google translate

I am Arab, some common Persian words are loan from Arabic like "thanks", it's "شكرا" in Arabic.

[Oghuz]

I am Arab, some common Persian words are loan from Arabic like "thanks", it's "شكرا" in Arabic.

What country akhi ?

[Freeroostah]

You mean very typical Iranid phenotype ?

Thats how I imagine the ancient Scythians,Parthians, or Sarmatians of Central Asia
I dont think he is fully Iranid though

[The Blade]

I do not see any nordid in him. To be fair I do not understand the classification Irano Nordoid.
Iranid altered by Corded type.

[Phenix]

What country akhi ?

Algeria.

[Oghuz]

Algeria.

Very nice.

Would this man stick out in your country or can he blend in ?

[Phenix]

Very nice.

Would this man stick out in your country or can he blend in ?

Nah, he would be spotted as a Turk, since it's the only famous nationality from middle-east here.
A funny thing about Northern Middle-Eastern phenotypes, some mountaineers here look Iranian, Turks, or even Caucasian, but it's rare.

[Oghuz]

Nah, he would be spotted as a Turk, since it's the only famous nationality from middle-east here.
A funny thing about Northern Middle-Eastern phenotypes, some mountaineers here look Iranian, Turks, or even Caucasian, but it's rare.

Is that a ethnic group ? mountaineers of your area ?

[Phenix]

Is that a ethnic group ? mountaineers of your area ?

No, just a regional variety in the Tell Atlas range, Maghreb is a 100 million demographic bloc living in a rough terrain, don't expect them to look all alike, some phenotypes can be very present in a region, but totally absent in others.
In general case, Iranians are unpassable here.

[Fibonacci]

I am Arab, some common Persian words are loan from Arabic like "thanks", it's "شكرا" in Arabic.

we have like 8 different words for 'thank', 'sepasgozar' is the original persian word, merci and others are loans

[Fibonacci]

Iranid altered by Corded type.

isnt iranid already altered by corded?

[Phenix]

we have like 8 different words for 'thank', 'sepasgozar' is the original persian word, merci and others are loans

A bizarre thing, is the amount of Arabic loanwords that have their equivalence in Farsi.
Why do you use them, if that is the case?

[The Blade]

isnt iranid already altered by corded?
Lundman, Hooton and Biasutti saw it as a Mediterranean type, Coon - as a Nordic one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irano-Afghan_race
What I am referring to is John Lawrence Angel's later Irano-Nordic type which stands between the Irano-Afghan (Iranid) and Corded types.

[Fibonacci]

A bizarre thing, is the amount of Arabic loanwords that have their equivalence in Farsi.
Why do you use them, if that is the case?

We don't learn them. They just exist. It also depends on the context of speech. In formal Persian, tashakor isn't used, the original is used. in regular conversation its used along with merci. It takes one man in the government to decide whether or not they want to get rid of loan words. They can easily do this because not too long ago, a Persian literature academy revived middle Persian which was spoken long before the islamic conquest of Iran or any relationship with the outside. Soon enough, Persian will go through a script change, most likely replaced with Latin and the loan words will be replaced.

[Oghuz]

No, just a regional variety in the Tell Atlas range, Maghreb is a 100 million demographic bloc living in a rough terrain, don't expect them to look all alike, some phenotypes can be very present in a region, but totally absent in others.
In general case, Iranians are unpassable here.

Thanks man.