Rudolf Hess - R1a-L1029

[Artek]

I have read today about about this DNA testing of alleged Rudolf Hess' blood sample to disprove Spandau prison theory: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46964928


https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2 Cw_300/MTE5NTU2MzE1ODE4NDYwNjgz/rudolf-hess-388151-1-402.jpg
In case someone forgot - this is Rudolf Hess.



A DNA test carried out by Austrian scientists has shown that the man imprisoned in Berlin's Spandau Prison had indeed been Hitler's deputy.

Hess was captured after flying to Scotland in 1941 and sentenced to life in prison at the Nuremberg trials.

He was found hanged in the Berlin jail in 1987 at the age of 93.

Researchers at the University of Salzburg in Austria tracked down a distant male relative of Hess's and obtained a DNA sample, the FSI Genetics journal says.

That was compared with tests of a blood sample taken from the man known as Spandau prisoner No 7, the prison's last inmate, in 1982.

The results showed a match of almost 100%.

I've been so curious that I managed to find the thesis and it's here: https://www.fsigenetics.com/article/S1872-4973(17)30297-1/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR0yoY-lK0TenNSEss9_vHU-xKkmYbeSUS8PtxDE6ma__wsINglWZVTEzgM#/article/S1872-4973(17)30297-1/addons

So it looked like wow, they tested Y-STR markers and confirmed that Spandau #7 was indeed a Rudolf Hess. But where are the Y-STRs? Are they hidden? Why there is no info about a haplogroup?

I thought I will probably find it as a part of supplementary material and I was right. They are present in .xls file.

It looks like Rudolf Hess belong to a haplogroup R1a, and most likely R1a-L1029 that is a typical Slavic signature.

[Dick]

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L1029/

Seems like it. the top Germans are from east Germany.

[Jackson78]

Slavic ancestry.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L1029/

Seems like it. the top Germans are from east Germany.

Hess was Bavarian bro.

[Slavic Italian]

Hess was Bavarian bro.

Maybe so but he was Slavic.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Maybe so but he was Slavic.

Only his paternal line was lmao. Probably he cluster with other southern Germans. My ydna is Germanic and I am not German lulz.

[Tschaikisten]

Based on NevGen, he was YP593 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP593/)

https://i.imgur.com/9jUcjTj.png

[Slavic Italian]

Only his paternal line was lmao. Probably he cluster with other southern Germans. My ydna is Germanic and I am not German lulz.

That still makes him Slavic. Your remarks alone tells me you are painfully inexperienced at this.

[Slavic Italian]

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L1029/

Seems like it. the top Germans are from east Germany.

Look up the Brandenbergers. Germany's Special Forces during WW2. They were all Slavic.

[Dick]

Based on NevGen, he was YP593 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP593/)

Slav

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

That still makes him Slavic. Your remarks alone tells me you are painfully inexperienced at this.

Ydna doesn't determine ethnicity, that's most retarded thing i heard. Hess was simply German.

[Slavic Italian]

Ydna doesn't determine ethnicity, that's most retarded thing i heard. Hess was simply German.

You are one of the most retarded things I have read. If his Y chromosome is Slavic you can bet your ass he has Slavic admixture as well.

[Lucas]

I've just wanted to start this topic...

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You are one of the most retarded things I have read. If his Y chromosome is Slavic you can bet your ass he has Slavic admixture as well.

Irrelevant. He is as much Slavic as I am Germanic.

[Slavic Italian]

Irrelevant. He is as much Slavic as I am Germanic.

You lack knowledge. His paternal ancestors were Slavs.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You lack knowledge. His paternal ancestors were Slavs.

It could have been one Slavic ancestor 1000 years ago man. I guess niggers with white man ydna are Brits to you lmao

[Peterski]

Hess was Bavarian bro.

There were Slavs in North-East Bavaria (so called Bavaria Slavica). Check:

Hans Losert, "Moinvinidi, Radanzvinidi und Nabavinida. Geschichte und Archäologie der Slawen in Bayern", 2009.

Or simply Wikipedia - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria_Slavica

[Slavic Italian]

It could have been one Slavic ancestor 1000 years ago man. I guess niggers with white man ydna are Brits to you lmao

I'm going to spoil another one of your wet dreams. Did you look up the Brandenbergers? Most of them were Slavic.

[Slavic Italian]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachtigall_Battalion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Battalion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzmannschaft_Battalion_201

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I'm going to spoil another one of your wet dreams. Did you look up the Brandenbergers? Most of them were Slavic.

Are you dumb or something ? I have proto-Germanic ydna, that doesn't make me a German. You West Slavs trying to make it seem half of Germany is Slavic reek of inferiority complex. It's funny man.
And yeah I'm pretty much aware lot of Slavs fought for nazi Germany including my countrymen.

[Slavic Italian]

Are you dumb or something ? I have proto-Germanic ydna, that doesn't make me a German. You West Slavs trying to make it seem half of Germany is Slavic reek of inferiority complex. It's funny man.
And yeah I'm pretty much aware lot of Slavs fought for nazi Germany including my countrymen.

I'm East Slavic and yes East Germany was Slavic dominant.

[Leto]

That still makes him Slavic. Your remarks alone tells me you are painfully inexperienced at this.

Maybe so but he was Slavic.
The Germans have diverse origins but you can't call them 'Slavic'. They don't speak a Slavic language and don't have a Slavic cultural identity. Not to mention that Y-DNA means little to nothing. An African American can be 1/8 British or Irish and have a Western Euro haplogroup.

[Slavic Italian]

The Germans have diverse origins but you can't call them 'Slavic'. They don't speak a Slavic language and don't have a Slavic cultural identity. Not to mention that Y-DNA means little to nothing. An African American can be 1/8 British or Irish and have a Western Euro haplogroup.

Did I call the Germans Slavic? I said Hess is part Slavic. I'm really starting to wonder about some of you.

[renaissance12]

Are you dumb or something ? I have proto-Germanic ydna, that doesn't make me a German. You West Slavs trying to make it seem half of Germany is Slavic reek of inferiority complex. It's funny man.
And yeah I'm pretty much aware lot of Slavs fought for nazi Germany including my countrymen.

Don't Forget Your Gypsie And Turkish And Med Ydna My Dear Retarded Dumb

[PostOak1]

I have read today about about this DNA testing of alleged Rudolf Hess' blood sample to disprove Spandau prison theory: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46964928


https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2 Cw_300/MTE5NTU2MzE1ODE4NDYwNjgz/rudolf-hess-388151-1-402.jpg
In case someone forgot - this is Rudolf Hess.



I've been so curious that I managed to find the thesis and it's here: https://www.fsigenetics.com/article/S1872-4973(17)30297-1/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR0yoY-lK0TenNSEss9_vHU-xKkmYbeSUS8PtxDE6ma__wsINglWZVTEzgM#/article/S1872-4973(17)30297-1/addons

So it looked like wow, they tested Y-STR markers and confirmed that Spandau #7 was indeed a Rudolf Hess. But where are the Y-STRs? Are they hidden? Why there is no info about a haplogroup?

I thought I will probably find it as a part of supplementary material and I was right. They are present in .xls file.

It looks like Rudolf Hess belong to a haplogroup R1a, and most likely R1a-L1029 that is a typical Slavic signature.

So my straight patrilineal line runs into Rudolf Hess’s straight patrilineal line within the last 2000 years?


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[PostOak1]

The Germans have diverse origins but you can't call them 'Slavic'. They don't speak a Slavic language and don't have a Slavic cultural identity. Not to mention that Y-DNA means little to nothing. An African American can be 1/8 British or Irish and have a Western Euro haplogroup.

There are some black men in my neck of the woods that have the L1029 Y chromosome because one of my uncles or male ancestors were their male ancestors


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[xripkan]

I would like to see Nazi's faces if they learned their forefathers were Slavs and Neolithic Mediterraneans/Europeans while those of some Jews were Aryans.

[PostOak1]

I would like to see Nazi's faces if they learned their forefathers were Slavs and Neolithic Mediterraneans/Europeans while those of some Jews were Aryans.
They would have just expanded the definition of “Aryan”.



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[hanza]

The Germans have diverse origins but you can't call them 'Slavic'. They don't speak a Slavic language and don't have a Slavic cultural identity. Not to mention that Y-DNA means little to nothing. An African American can be 1/8 British or Irish and have a Western Euro haplogroup.


Well yes, I would like to say that all these labels can be misleading in themselves.

People want to believe that haplos are tied to a given culture for all eternity, but fact is : all these "R1a" living in Germany since generations are now culturally Germans (and maybe even genetically, since haplos are not immutable), no matter who were their ancestors.