Haplogroup autism

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

TA learned me new thing : haplogroup determines your ethnicity. Autism level went trough the roof lmao

[Dna8]

TA learned me new thing : haplogroup determines your ethnicity. Autism level went trough the roof lmao

I also find the straightforward correlation of haplogroup and ethnicity problematic, at the least..

[Coastal Elite]

I also find the straightforward correlation of haplogroup and ethnicity problematic, at the least..

I hear a lot of people here talk continuously about haplogroups but I'm wondering why it means so much to these people. I'm very interested in my ancestry but I fail to understand why knowing the Y-DNA of the male line in my family is of great importance. It really doesn't tell a person much about their overall ancestry. Might these haplogroups be overrated?

[Dna8]

I hear a lot of people here talk continuously about haplogroups but I'm wondering why it means so much to these people. I'm very interested in my ancestry but I fail to understand why knowing the Y-DNA of the male line in my family is of great importance. It really doesn't tell a person much about their overall ancestry. Might these haplogroups be overrated?

Personally I think that overriding/discounting assumptions based on history/culture/linguistics, with genetic data, is like disbelieving a birth certificate on account of your skin tone not matching your mother's/father's..

I tend to think that genetic details may often be coincidental as opposed to informative.

[Cumansky]

Haplogroup important when study genetic, it is your oldest ancestor, root or origin

[nittionia]

Sometimes they can give you info about your modern ancestry, but mostly they're just talked about way too seriously.

[Cumansky]

I am I2a1b2

[Dna8]

Haplogroup important when study genetic, it is your oldest ancestor, root or origin

I'd find a reference to an ancestor in some monastery document far more interesting, for example, than being told by a dna ancestry company that I share some genetic profile with a quarter of all Europeans...

[GreentheViper]

So fucking true lmao

[Cumansky]

I'd find a reference to an ancestor in some monastery document far more interesting, for example, than being told by some dna ancestry company that I share some genetic profile with a quarter of all Europeans...

Is not everything but they need to divide people based on origin ethnic groups, that is what Haplogroup purpose

Important to prove or disprove migration patterns

[Dna8]

Is not everything but they need to divide people based on origin ethnic groups, that is what Haplogroup purpose

Important to prove or disprove migration patterns

But how can something as haphazard as ancient migratory patterns be used to clarify contemporary ethnic considerations?

Wouldn't that be like trying to write a thesis on Ancient Rome based upon contemporary patterns/trends in bird migrations? (hyperbole, but a corresponding tenuousness of link?)

[Bostonia]

Mine were important to me because it's a definite line that's very long. Paper trails can be wrong, there's no written records past a certain point in history, but those groups (while still subject to human error) are very reliable pieces of information that you know for a fact belong to you. My dad's y-DNA actually helped us figure out the correct surname for our family's male line. But I understand what you mean when you say some people place too much importance on them. For me, it's the certainty of it. Autosomal is kind of hit or miss but those classifications are pretty definite, and you can trace them very far back. It's the only connection we really have to our ancient ancestors.

[Dna8]

On the other hand, perhaps some folk just have an interest in genetic data (irrespective of its application to history).. which is fair enough.

One man's intense interest in contemporary commercial prawn farming, is another man's nonsense..

[Dna8]

Mine were important to me because it's a definite line that's very long. Paper trails can be wrong, there's no written records past a certain point in history, but those groups (while still subject to human error) are very reliable pieces of information that you know for a fact belong to you. My dad's y-DNA actually helped us figure out the correct surname for our family's male line. But I understand what you mean when you say some people place too much importance on them. For me, it's the certainty of it. Autosomal is kind of hit or miss but those classifications are pretty definite, and you can trace them very far back. It's the only connection we really have to our ancient ancestors.

Good point. And fair enough.

[Cumansky]

But how can something as haphazard as ancient migratory patterns be used to clarify contemporary ethnic considerations?

Wouldn't that be like trying to write a thesis on Ancient Rome based upon contemporary patterns/trends in bird migrations? (hyperbole, but a corresponding tenuousness of link?)

Idk brother how answer your question

Ethnic tribes have specific Haplogroup(s) in their origin that can filter out migratory Haplogroup that get picked up by tribes, clans, nation states that are foreign origin

[Antimatter]

This is a very big error. I doubt my friend (who is a Levantine) would associate himself with Indo-Europeans just because his haplogroup is R1b-Z2103.

[Zroota]

Haplogroup important when study genetic, it is your oldest ancestor, root or origin
Pretty much this.

[Kyp]

Pretty much this.

yes one of thousands