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cyberlorian
01-25-2019, 03:34 PM
Is Basal Eurasian what they call as 'MENA'?

Token
01-25-2019, 03:38 PM
LOL no.

Voskos
01-25-2019, 03:39 PM
iirc basal eurasian has proven to be something like ''north mena'' or caucasian mena, meaning ancient paleolithic europids from caucasus mixed with mena, but I'm not so sure.

Token
01-25-2019, 04:20 PM
iirc basal eurasian has proven to be something like ''north mena'' or caucasian mena, meaning ancient paleolithic europids from caucasus mixed with mena, but I'm not so sure.

LMAO

rein
01-25-2019, 04:22 PM
Ancient MENA.

Gangrel
01-25-2019, 04:22 PM
Basal Eurasians were Albanian

Voskos
01-25-2019, 04:26 PM
LMAO


Most of the Dzudzuana population's ancestry was deeply related to the post-glacial western European hunter-gatherers of the 'Villabruna cluster', but it also had ancestry from a lineage that had separated from the great majority of non-African populations before they separated from each other, proving that such 'Basal Eurasians' were present in West Eurasia twice as early as previously recorded. We document major population turnover in the Near East after the time of Dzudzuana, showing that the highly differentiated Holocene populations of the region were formed by 'Ancient North Eurasian' admixture into the Caucasus and Iran and North African admixture into the Natufians of the Levant. We finally show that the Dzudzuana population contributed the majority of the ancestry of post-Ice Age people in the Near East, North Africa, and even parts of Europe, thereby becoming the largest single contributor of ancestry of all present-day West Eurasians.

doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/423079

Token
01-25-2019, 04:29 PM
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/423079

Forget everything that you bolded, it is not referring to BE. This is the relevant part:


Most of the Dzudzuana population's ancestry was deeply related to the post-glacial western European hunter-gatherers of the 'Villabruna cluster', but it also had ancestry from a lineage that had separated from the great majority of non-African populations before they separated from each other, proving that such 'Basal Eurasians' were present in West Eurasia twice as early as previously recorded. We document major population turnover in the Near East after the time of Dzudzuana, showing that the highly differentiated Holocene populations of the region were formed by 'Ancient North Eurasian' admixture into the Caucasus and Iran and North African admixture into the Natufians of the Levant. We finally show that the Dzudzuana population contributed the majority of the ancestry of post-Ice Age people in the Near East, North Africa, and even parts of Europe, thereby becoming the largest single contributor of ancestry of all present-day West Eurasians.

Voskos
01-25-2019, 04:34 PM
Forget everything that you bolded, it is not referring to BE. This is the relevant part:

regardless, it proves that populations with high basal eurasian arrived from west asia and not directly from the near east which was my initial post.

Token
01-25-2019, 04:38 PM
regardless, it proves that populations with high basal eurasian arrived from west asia and not directly from the near east which was my initial post.

You are confusing Basal Eurasians with Dzudzuana.

Voskos
01-25-2019, 04:41 PM
You are confusing Basal Eurasians with Dzudzuana.

nope, you dont seem to get my point. i'm saying that populations like dzudzuana are the ones that carried BE to europeans. so BE arrived in europe through west asia and not directly from the MENA.

Token
01-25-2019, 04:54 PM
nope, you dont seem to get my point. i'm saying that populations like dzudzuana are the ones that carried BE to europeans. so BE arrived in europe through west asia and not directly from the MENA.

I think you forgot your initial post, let me quote it for you.


iirc basal eurasian has proven to be something like ''north mena'' or caucasian mena, meaning ancient paleolithic europids from caucasus mixed with mena, but I'm not so sure.

Well, Basal Eurasians have nothing to do with Paleolithic Europids, and neither with 'MENA' whatever that means. Basal Eurasians are merely a post OOA bottleneck lineage that remained isolated somewhere in the Arabian Peninsula and didn't mixed with Neanderthals.

Voskos
01-25-2019, 05:10 PM
you take everything too litterally. any population that carries basal eurasian is more or less basal eurasian in a relative sense.

Stefanos.tasidis
01-28-2019, 02:18 PM
"generally speaking"
some may not like it, but europeans are basically northwestern asians arriving after an ice age break :)

TheOldNorth
10-02-2019, 05:52 AM
Is Basal Eurasian what they call as 'MENA'?

basal west eurasian maybe kind of? basal eurasian NO! because basal eurasians are the ancestors or all non africans