View Full Version : Hallstatt Celt DA112, 850-700 BC
Peterski
02-01-2019, 01:22 PM
As I mentioned in my previous thread about DA199, next I was going to upload DA112:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276322-Medieval-Hungarian-1224-1264-AD
DA112 is the other Hallstatt Bylany (the first is DA111 which was already on GEDmatch):
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#10/50.4720/14.3943
According to what Davidski wrote in the link below, DA112 has some Eastern influences:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/08/central-asian-admixture-in-hallstatt.html
I just uploaded it to GEDmatch Genesis and there is some Mongoloid but only "trace level":
Kit number LA2887022 - DA112 Hallstatt Celtic
Eurogenes K36:
Population
Amerindian 0.51 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 5.37 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.82 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.59 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.15 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 11.92 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.43 Pct
French 1.47 Pct
Iberian 17.49 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.46 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 11.92 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 12.37 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese 0.50 Pct
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
Similarity map:
https://i.imgur.com/A7CTPHe.png
Austria & Bretagne are on top:
https://i.imgur.com/Ehk7yh2.png
Compare to similarity map for the other Hallstatt sample (DA111):
https://i.imgur.com/GsuGTTz.png
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Eurogenes K15 for Hallstatt DA112 (Cornwall + Galicia, but with large distance):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe)#History
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 East_German @ 8.760249
2 Hungarian @ 11.566052
3 West_German @ 13.748892
4 South_Dutch @ 13.854079
5 Southwest_Finnish @ 14.086937
6 Austrian @ 14.254449
7 North_German @ 14.483090
8 Swedish @ 14.674507
9 North_Swedish @ 14.847353
10 Norwegian @ 15.530862
11 Croatian @ 15.762395
12 North_Dutch @ 15.832097
13 Southwest_English @ 16.025703
14 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.117706
15 South_Polish @ 16.141638
16 Finnish @ 16.163355
17 French @ 16.240932
18 Danish @ 16.392187
19 Ukrainian @ 16.434118
20 Southeast_English @ 16.954832
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.624954
MDLP K23b for Hallstatt DA112:
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Belgian ( ) 5.15
MDLP K16 for Hallstatt DA112:
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 4.41
My Y-DNA haplogroup - R1b-Z2552>L617 - is common in Cornwall, incidentally.
Peterski
02-01-2019, 01:26 PM
Eurogenes K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.92
2 Baltic 32.48
3 West_Med 18.46
4 East_Med 6.51
5 Amerindian 1.96
6 Oceanian 1.17
Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 East_German @ 7.839272
2 Austrian @ 9.298747
3 Hungarian @ 12.197077
4 West_German @ 13.646287
5 South_Dutch @ 13.746942
6 North_Swedish @ 14.801031
7 North_German @ 14.877313
8 Swedish @ 15.344375
9 Croatian @ 15.525110
10 South_Polish @ 16.193487
11 Southeast_English @ 16.253077
12 Danish @ 16.421234
13 North_Dutch @ 16.518303
14 French @ 17.040289
15 Norwegian @ 17.140598
16 Orcadian @ 17.209940
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 17.609632
18 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 17.953915
19 Ukrainian @ 18.191841
20 Southwest_English @ 18.251289
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +50% Southwest_French @ 3.947282
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% Southwest_French +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.883397
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.883397
2 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.942910
3 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French @ 3.947282
4 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.962281
5 Estonian + Lithuanian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.989081
6 Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_French + Southwest_French @ 4.025970
7 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.029839
8 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.063773
9 Estonian + French_Basque + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.109277
10 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.124732
11 Belorussian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French @ 4.154979
12 Estonian + Estonian + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.162164
13 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.192524
14 Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.212219
15 Estonian + Estonian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.217822
16 Estonian + French_Basque + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.225721
17 Estonian + Estonian + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.226249
18 Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.228735
19 Estonian + Estonian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.241217
20 Estonian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.249210
Peterski
02-01-2019, 01:27 PM
MDLP K16 Modern:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 30.63
2 NorthEastEuropean 29.77
3 Steppe 24.25
4 Caucasian 12.48
5 SouthEastAsian 2.02
6 EastAfrican 0.71
7 Subsaharian 0.09
8 Amerindian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 4.41
2 Icelandic (Iceland) 4.5
3 Norwegian (Norwegia) 4.61
4 English (Kent) 5.05
5 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 5.39
6 English (Cornwall) 5.39
7 Irish (Ulster) 5.92
8 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 6.14
9 Irish (Connacht) 6.15
10 Scottish (Highlands) 6.57
11 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 6.71
12 Irish (Leinster) 6.92
13 French (WestFrance) 6.97
14 Swede (Sweden) 6.98
15 Scottish (Borders) 6.99
16 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 7.15
17 Irish (Munster) 7.23
18 Scottish (Grampian) 7.29
19 English (England) 7.32
20 Scottish (Fife) 7.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.6% Lithuanian (Lithuania) + 35.4% Basque (France) @ 2.53
2 84.8% Icelandic (Iceland) + 15.2% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.67
3 88.2% Icelandic (Iceland) + 11.8% Basque (Spain) @ 2.72
4 84.7% Icelandic (Iceland) + 15.3% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.72
5 84.6% Norwegian (Norwegia) + 15.4% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.78
6 87.8% Norwegian (Norwegia) + 12.2% Basque (France) @ 2.8
7 88.2% Icelandic (Iceland) + 11.8% Basque (France) @ 2.8
8 84.5% Norwegian (Norwegia) + 15.5% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.86
9 60.3% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 39.7% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.89
10 62.8% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 37.2% Basque (France) @ 3.08
11 83.4% Icelandic (Iceland) + 16.6% Spanish (Cantabria) @ 3.14
12 59.1% Estonian (Estonia) + 40.9% French (SouthFrance) @ 3.16
13 60.9% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) + 39.1% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 3.17
14 91.8% Icelandic (Iceland) + 8.2% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 3.17
15 83.9% Icelandic (Iceland) + 16.1% Spanish (Aragon) @ 3.22
16 58.5% Lithuanian (Lithuania) + 41.5% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 3.23
17 58% Lithuanian (Lithuania) + 42% French (SouthFrance) @ 3.26
18 67.7% Belarusian (Belarus) + 32.3% Basque (France) @ 3.26
19 54.5% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) + 45.5% French (SouthFrance) @ 3.27
20 65.8% Estonian (Estonia) + 34.2% Basque (France) @ 3.27
Where was he excavated from?
Peterski
02-01-2019, 01:31 PM
Where was he excavated from?
Czech Republic, Bylany - in the same place as the other Hallstatt.
MDLP K23b:
Kit LA2887022
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 40.82
2 European_Early_Farmers 27.66
3 Caucasian 20.87
4 Ancestral_Altaic 5.35
5 Amerindian 2.06
6 Australoid 1.21
7 North_African 0.89
8 Tungus-Altaic 0.7
9 East_African 0.43
10 South_Central_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Belgian ( ) 5.15
2 English ( ) 6.36
3 Swede ( ) 6.4
4 Norwegian_East ( ) 6.57
5 North_European ( ) 6.63
6 Frisian ( ) 6.65
7 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 6.81
8 Dane ( ) 7.12
9 Irish ( ) 7.45
10 Dutch ( ) 7.56
11 North_German ( ) 7.92
12 Norwegian_West ( ) 8.1
13 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 8.1
14 South_German ( ) 8.1
15 CEU ( ) 8.33
16 British ( ) 8.73
17 Welsh ( ) 9.1
18 German-Volga ( ) 9.22
19 Icelandic ( ) 10.16
20 French ( ) 11.03
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% Swede ( ) + 23% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 4.35
2 95.6% Belgian ( ) + 4.4% Cree ( ) @ 4.41
3 93.7% Belgian ( ) + 6.3% Mexican ( ) @ 4.42
4 93% Belgian ( ) + 7% Tsimsian ( ) @ 4.42
5 97% Belgian ( ) + 3% Apache ( ) @ 4.42
6 74.3% Finn_West ( ) + 25.7% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.42
7 96.9% Belgian ( ) + 3.1% Navajo ( ) @ 4.42
8 96.2% Belgian ( ) + 3.8% Chilote ( ) @ 4.43
9 94.8% Belgian ( ) + 5.2% Serrano ( ) @ 4.43
10 95.7% Belgian ( ) + 4.3% Algonquin ( ) @ 4.44
11 96.4% Belgian ( ) + 3.6% Kumiai ( ) @ 4.44
12 97.2% Belgian ( ) + 2.8% Luiseno ( ) @ 4.44
13 97.3% Belgian ( ) + 2.7% Quechua_Peru ( ) @ 4.44
14 97.3% Belgian ( ) + 2.7% Bolivian_Cochabamba ( ) @ 4.44
15 96.7% Belgian ( ) + 3.3% Cucupa ( ) @ 4.44
16 97.2% Belgian ( ) + 2.8% Bolivian_Pando ( ) @ 4.45
17 95.4% Belgian ( ) + 4.6% Ojibwa ( ) @ 4.45
18 97.4% Belgian ( ) + 2.6% Totonac ( ) @ 4.45
19 97.4% Belgian ( ) + 2.6% Pima ( ) @ 4.45
20 97.4% Belgian ( ) + 2.6% Mixtec ( ) @ 4.45
I'm assuming that was a chick?
DA111:
mtDNA: H6a1a
Y-DNA: R1b-U152
DA112:
mtDNA: HV0+195
Peterski
02-01-2019, 01:34 PM
I'm assuming that was a chick?
DA111:
mtDNA: H6a1a
Y-DNA: R1b-U152
DA112:
mtDNA: HV0+195
It is DA112. The other one (DA111) was on GEDmatch already before, someone else had uploaded it.
For some reason the person who uploaded DA111 did not upload DA112. Why? What is controversial?
What is controversial?
maybe, like the Illyrian sample that was deleted
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.
Kit LA2887022
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 44.54
2 Atlantic_Med 37.54
3 Caucasus 9.45
4 Gedrosia 3.99
5 East_Asian 2.07
6 Southwest_Asian 1.6
7 Sub_Saharan 0.82
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 German (Dodecad) 6.64
2 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 7.28
3 Dutch (Dodecad) 7.47
4 Kent (1000Genomes) 9.29
5 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 9.34
6 English (Dodecad) 9.5
7 British_Isles (Dodecad) 9.85
8 French (Dodecad) 10.36
9 French (HGDP) 10.75
10 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 11.58
11 British (Dodecad) 11.65
12 Orkney (1000Genomes) 12.15
13 Irish (Dodecad) 12.31
14 Hungarians (Behar) 12.31
15 Argyll (1000Genomes) 12.34
16 Orcadian (HGDP) 12.38
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 13.46
18 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.72
19 Romanians (Behar) 22.64
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 22.81
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 38.2% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 2.51
2 57.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 42.6% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 2.54
3 56.6% Valencia (1000Genomes) + 43.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.88
4 58.4% Valencia (1000Genomes) + 41.6% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.92
5 69.4% French (HGDP) + 30.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.95
6 62.3% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 37.7% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.01
7 60.2% Spaniards (Behar) + 39.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.02
8 57.9% Cantabria (1000Genomes) + 42.1% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.02
9 60.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 39.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.03
10 74.2% French (HGDP) + 25.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.04
11 75.1% French (HGDP) + 24.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.09
12 56% Aragon (1000Genomes) + 44% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.11
13 61.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 38.7% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.14
14 72.4% French (HGDP) + 27.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.15
15 59.7% Cantabria (1000Genomes) + 40.3% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.18
16 77.2% French (HGDP) + 22.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 3.21
17 58% Russian_B (Behar) + 42% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.22
18 53.2% Polish (Dodecad) + 46.8% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 3.23
19 51.9% Polish (Dodecad) + 48.1% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 3.24
20 50.8% Cataluna (1000Genomes) + 49.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.26
Peterski
02-01-2019, 01:38 PM
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 38.2% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 2.51
2 57.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 42.6% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 2.54
(...)
PROVEN!: :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhn6Ah6-30w
PROVEN!: :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhn6Ah6-30w
where else would they have come from? Even the one sample is U152 like italo-celts
Peterski
02-01-2019, 01:55 PM
I'm assuming that was a chick?
DA112:
mtDNA: HV0+195
Or maybe they just could not read his Y-DNA haplogroup?
I'm getting a read: Y-DNA hg G2a2b2a1b1a1b1 (CTS4803)
Edit:
Well, women also sometimes get a few reads for Y-DNA. Maybe telegony is real after all? :p
I think it is a woman, despite such specific read, because there are very few reads in total.
Or maybe they just could not read his Y-DNA haplogroup?
I'm getting a read: Y-DNA hg G2a2b2a1b1a1b1 (CTS4803)
what? Idk that's what I came across. Maybe it's fake what I found ;) the horror if he was G2a
Peterski
02-01-2019, 01:59 PM
the horror if he was G2a
Why the horror?
Why the horror?
Not indo-european
Peterski
02-01-2019, 02:06 PM
Not indo-european
One subclade of G2a is associated with Celts and was already found in another Hallstatt sample (that sample was tested only for Y-DNA, not for autosomal DNA):
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?197353-Italo-Celtic-Y-DNA-lineages-in-ancient-DNA
Sample HÜ-I/8, Mitterkirchen, Hallstatt culture, ca. 700 BC - G2a2b2a1b-L497
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?228467-Will-I-be-G2a-for-sure&p=4805044&viewfull=1#post4805044
One subclade of G2a is associated with Celts and was already found in another Hallstatt sample (that sample was tested only for Y-DNA, not for autosomal DNA):
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?197353-Italo-Celtic-Y-DNA-lineages-in-ancient-DNA
Sample HÜ-I/8, Mitterkirchen, Hallstatt culture, ca. 700 BC - G2a2b2a1b-L497
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?228467-Will-I-be-G2a-for-sure&p=4805044&viewfull=1#post4805044
I know. I was kidding. that clade is also found in the Balkans. Wonder if it's from Celts or Illyrians, both were Hallstatt peoples
Dacul
02-01-2019, 02:22 PM
Great thread!
Peterski
02-01-2019, 02:37 PM
I know. I was kidding. that clade is also found in the Balkans. Wonder if it's from Celts or Illyrians, both were Hallstatt peoples
Do you have a map showing modern distribution of this clade?
So during the Iron Age Central Europe was more 'Western' genetically than it is now. That sample is more Western than Austrians and some Germans!
Peterski
02-01-2019, 02:48 PM
I wonder why was DA112 "censored" by that person who uploaded DA111 (I mean: why did he choose to upload DA111 but not DA112)?
Tschaikisten
02-01-2019, 02:48 PM
Or maybe they just could not read his Y-DNA haplogroup?
I'm getting a read: Y-DNA hg G2a2b2a1b1a1b1 (CTS4803)
Makes sense, CTS4803 is completely Western Euro branch (unlike L43> which exist in whole Europe).
Is this sample from some new study?
Peterski
02-01-2019, 02:49 PM
Is this sample from some new study?
From Damgaard 2018, "137 ancient human genomes from across the Eurasian steppes":
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0094-2
So during the Iron Age Central Europe was more 'Western' genetically than it is now.
Yes, but still this DA112 has quite high (75) similarity to modern Czechs, meaning that there is a Celtic substrate in Czech Republic.
Slavic migration assimilated some Celts (also it explains my Y-DNA haplogroup, I guess).
Smaug
02-01-2019, 02:53 PM
Very interesting. The areas of higher similarity match the Celtic spread from Central Europe towards the west, although it is quite interesting the high similarity found between this Hallstatt sample and Insular Celts. I would expect the Irish and the British to be a little more divergent due to their indigenous pre-Celtic input.
Tschaikisten
02-01-2019, 02:55 PM
Do you have a map showing modern distribution of this clade?
There are at least 80 of us on Serbian DNA Project (public and non-public results) who belongs to L42>YSC33>Y128028 (https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-L42/).
Do you have a map showing modern distribution of this clade?
Ask tscheikisten. He is the same Subclade as the Hallstatt Celt. I think he has a matches map from ftdna
Token
02-01-2019, 03:37 PM
DA112 isn't a pure Celt, he is clearly mixed with Scythians. DA111 is a pure Celt and most similar to Western Europeans in general.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9oz1-3-6-YI/W4P9StfqCLI/AAAAAAAAHHM/Ud8Mrp0sm9wZJTYumltsxmWc-BnNav7EQCLcBGAs/s1600/Hallstatt_Bylany_DA112_vs_DA111_D-stats.png
Peterski
02-01-2019, 03:51 PM
Scythians near modern German/Czech border ??? That is too far to the west than any Scythians ever got.
DA111 is a pure Celt
I doubt it, because he seems mixed with some Non-Celtic wogs based on his results (too southern-shifted).
mixed with Scythians
0.5 percent South Chinese in K36 is not much, it is autistic to pay attention to such microscopic admixtures.
Your average "White Brazilian" has much more of Amerind & SSA blood than that guy had of Scythian blood.
Lucas
02-01-2019, 04:01 PM
From Damgaard 2018, "137 ancient human genomes from across the Eurasian steppes":
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0094-2
Yes, but still this DA112 has quite high (75) similarity to modern Czechs, meaning that there is a Celtic substrate in Czech Republic.
Slavic migration assimilated some Celts (also it explains my Y-DNA haplogroup, I guess).
I think there isn't plink dataset for it, public available;/
If in this paper was Scythian from Hungary maybe?
Peterski
02-01-2019, 04:18 PM
I think there isn't plink dataset for it, public available
I processed it from ENA. Where is available the PLINK dataset with this sample?
Edit:
Ah, you said there isn't. Yes, I could not find it either. But BAM files are available.
If in this paper was Scythian from Hungary maybe?
Yes, including one which was in fact a Medieval Hungarian as C14 dating showed.
Token
02-01-2019, 05:01 PM
Hallstatt culture had close contacts with Scythians from around the Black Sea and DA112 clearly shows Central Asian drift. Celts were not Eastern Europeans, sorry Peterski!
Eurogenes K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.92
2 Baltic 32.48
3 West_Med 18.46
4 East_Med 6.51
5 Amerindian 1.96
6 Oceanian 1.17
He looks slavic
Peterski
02-01-2019, 05:29 PM
He looks slavic
Slavic people score usually more Baltic than North Atlantic.
This one has high Baltic but still more North Atlantic.
Hallstatt culture had close contacts with Scythians from around the Black Sea and DA112 clearly shows Central Asian drift. Celts were not Eastern Europeans, sorry Peterski!
Where do you see Central Asian in DA112's K36 scores, apart from trace amounts?
And how are these results Eastern European? Closest to Bretons and Austrians.
Lucas
02-01-2019, 06:45 PM
Yes, including one which was in fact a Medieval Hungarian as C14 dating showed.
What? Really this "very Slavic" Scythian was in fact medieval Hungarian? Or it was another sample?
Our "Lechists" will be very upset:)
Peterski
02-02-2019, 10:21 AM
Or it was another sample?
I think another one. This Medieval (13th century) Hungarian looks at least partially "western", far from being fully Slavic.
Moote
04-13-2023, 09:10 PM
As I mentioned in my previous thread about DA199, next I was going to upload DA112:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276322-Medieval-Hungarian-1224-1264-AD
DA112 is the other Hallstatt Bylany (the first is DA111 which was already on GEDmatch):
Appreciate the discussion that you have created, and I look forward to diving deep into this thread.
As a top 99% genetic match for DA112, is there any task that I can help with?
This match with DA112 is my 19th top match, at a genetic distance of 9.14
Moote
03-09-2024, 07:46 PM
Duplicate. oops
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