Neolithic GAC Farmers on GEDmatch

[Peterski]

Globular Amphora Culture (GAC), sample RISE1168, male, Y-DNA haplogroup I2a2a1b2a-L801.

These particular GAC samples are from Koszyce in Southern Poland:

https://i.imgur.com/nAEngnn.png

Kit number on GEDmatch Genesis (just uploaded it) - DF4610811

Eurogenes K13 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 46.18
2 North_Atlantic 36.99
3 East_Med 9.68
4 Baltic 7.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_French 16.09
2 Spanish_Aragon 16.34
3 Spanish_Andalucia 16.58
4 Spanish_Cantabria 16.6
5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.1
6 French_Basque 17.44
7 Sardinian 17.8
8 Spanish_Valencia 17.97
9 Spanish_Extremadura 18.77
10 Spanish_Murcia 19.32
11 Spanish_Galicia 19.41
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.47
13 Spanish_Cataluna 19.83
14 Portuguese 20.18
15 North_Italian 22.22
16 French 26.75
17 Tuscan 26.92
18 South_Dutch 31.81
19 West_Sicilian 31.86
20 West_German 32.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.6% French_Basque + 49.4% Sardinian @ 4.42
2 53.2% Southwest_French + 46.8% Sardinian @ 7.82
3 52.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 47.6% Sardinian @ 8.78
4 53% Spanish_Aragon + 47% Sardinian @ 8.92
5 68.4% Sardinian + 31.6% Southwest_English @ 8.95
6 70.5% Sardinian + 29.5% West_Scottish @ 9.15
7 70.6% Sardinian + 29.4% Irish @ 9.27
8 70.3% Sardinian + 29.7% Orcadian @ 9.45
9 69.2% Sardinian + 30.8% Southeast_English @ 9.68
10 51.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 48.5% Sardinian @ 9.91
11 72.8% Sardinian + 27.2% Norwegian @ 9.92
12 71.7% Sardinian + 28.3% North_Dutch @ 10.01
13 72.1% Sardinian + 27.9% Danish @ 10.19
14 73.7% Sardinian + 26.3% Swedish @ 10.44
15 53.9% Sardinian + 46.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 10.49
16 50.4% Sardinian + 49.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 10.66
17 53.3% Sardinian + 46.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 10.67
18 52.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 47.1% Sardinian @ 10.73
19 67.9% Sardinian + 32.1% South_Dutch @ 10.78
20 72.5% Sardinian + 27.5% North_German @ 10.8

[Ryuk]

. Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.6% French_Basque + 49.4% Sardinian @ 4.42
2 53.2% Southwest_French + 46.8% Sardinian @ 7.82
3 52.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 47.6% Sardinian @ 8.78
4 53% Spanish_Aragon + 47% Sardinian @ 8.92
5 68.4% Sardinian + 31.6% Southwest_English @ 8.95
6 70.5% Sardinian + 29.5% West_Scottish @ 9.15
7 70.6% Sardinian + 29.4% Irish @ 9.27
8 70.3% Sardinian + 29.7% Orcadian @ 9.45
9 69.2% Sardinian + 30.8% Southeast_English @ 9.68
10 51.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 48.5% Sardinian @ 9.91
11 72.8% Sardinian + 27.2% Norwegian @ 9.92
12 71.7% Sardinian + 28.3% North_Dutch @ 10.01
13 72.1% Sardinian + 27.9% Danish @ 10.19
14 73.7% Sardinian + 26.3% Swedish @ 10.44
15 53.9% Sardinian + 46.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 10.49
16 50.4% Sardinian + 49.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 10.66
17 53.3% Sardinian + 46.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 10.67
18 52.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 47.1% Sardinian @ 10.73
19 67.9% Sardinian + 32.1% South_Dutch @ 10.78
20 72.5% Sardinian + 27.5% North_German @ 10.8

These neolithic farmers were highly homogenous

[Peterski]

These neolithic farmers were highly homogenous

This one has higher than average hunter-gatherer (WHG probably) admixture, that's why he is closer to Basques than to Sardinians.

Eurogenes K36:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 7.61 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.81 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 0.14 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 6.54 Pct
Iberian 31.16 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.84 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 0.63 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 22.26 Pct

^^^ His ancestors 15,000 years ago:

https://i.imgur.com/v8BFDe8.png

[Leto]

This one has higher than average hunter-gatherer (WHG probably) admixture, that's why he is closer to Basques than to Sardinians.

Eurogenes K36:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 7.61 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.81 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 0.14 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 6.54 Pct
Iberian 31.16 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.84 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 0.63 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 22.26 Pct
Makes sense. The farther away from Anatolia, the less ENF ancestry.

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Kit DF4610811

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Early_Farmers 55.42
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 20.77
3 Caucasian 14.98
4 Near_East 4.53
5 North_African 4.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French_South ( ) 7.81
2 Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) 7.99
3 Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) 8.16
4 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) 8.67
5 Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) 10
6 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) 11.43
7 Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) 13.61
8 Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) 13.91
9 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) 13.99
10 Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) 14.61
11 Sardinian ( ) 15.04
12 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) 15.39
13 Spaniard ( ) 16.06
14 Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) 17.46
15 Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) 20.51
16 Portugese ( ) 21.05
17 Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) 21.38
18 French ( ) 23.56
19 Basque_Spanish ( ) 26.9
20 Welsh ( ) 27.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) + 32.8% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.08
2 67.8% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) + 32.2% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.09
3 66.2% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) + 33.8% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.68
4 68.2% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 31.8% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 5.33
5 71.2% French_South ( ) + 28.8% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.35
6 62.9% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) + 37.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.73
7 67.6% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 32.4% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 5.81
8 66.4% Basque_French ( ) + 33.6% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 5.83
9 82.3% Sardinian ( ) + 17.7% Saami ( ) @ 5.85
10 58.6% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 41.4% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 5.86
11 50.9% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 49.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.94
12 66.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 33.9% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) @ 5.95
13 56.1% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 43.9% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 5.97
14 52.2% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) + 47.8% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.99
15 67.2% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 32.8% Italian_Jew ( ) @ 6
16 68.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 31.3% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 6.02
17 64.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 35.3% Maltese ( ) @ 6.03
18 67.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 32.9% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 6.03
19 53.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 46.9% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 6.09
20 69.7% Basque_Spanish ( ) + 30.3% Italian_South ( ) @ 6.13

[Peterski]

From Artek, Y-DNA haplogroups of GAC males from Neolithic Koszyce (near Cracow):

RISE1160: I2a2a1b-CTS10057
RISE1162: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1163: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1165: I2a2a1b2-Z161
RISE1168: I2a2a1b2a-L801 -> this is the one I uploaded so far
RISE1169: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1171: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1173: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1241: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1250: I2a2a-L59
RISE1252: I2a2a1-CTS616
RISE1254: I2a2a1b2a-L801

Description
In 2011 archaeological excavations near the village of Koszyce, Poland, uncovered a 5000-year-old mass burial with the remains of 15 men, women and children belonging to the Globular Amphora culture. All had suffered violent deaths but had been buried with great care.

[happycow]

Very cool :)

[Dick]

Interesting. His and mine Ancient Eurasia K6. Although the admix results are different, there's some similarities in the oracles ;)


# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 54.79
2 Natufian 42.02
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 2.89
4 Sub_Saharan 0.3

80.5% Sardinian + 19.5% WHG @ 3.05

Anatolia_N + Natufian + SHG + WHG @ 1.922715




# Population Percent
1 Natufian 40.32
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 39.49
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.19

81% Sardinian + 19% EHG @ 1.44

Anatolia_N + EHG + Natufian + WHG @ 0.000000

[Borealis]

How do you get the raw data for ancient samples

[Ibericus]

this guy had definately some steppe ancestry (24% steppe on Gedrosia K12), and is modeled as 50% Basque (basques are 30% steppe) which would agree with Gimbautas theory that GAC was the earliest intrusion of indo-european peoples.

[Token]

this guy had definately some steppe ancestry (24% steppe on Gedrosia K12), and is modeled as 50% Basque (basques are 30% steppe) which would agree with Gimbautas theory that GAC was the earliest intrusion of indo-european peoples.

GAC had zero steppe admixture, the algorithm is just compensating for higher WHG admixture with a relatively low steppe and WHG-rich modern population on the lack of more proximate sources.

Btw Peterski, how many SNPs were used in this run?

[JQP4545]

From Artek, Y-DNA haplogroups of GAC males from Neolithic Koszyce (near Cracow):

RISE1160: I2a2a1b-CTS10057
RISE1162: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1163: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1165: I2a2a1b2-Z161
RISE1168: I2a2a1b2a-L801 -> this is the one I uploaded so far
RISE1169: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1171: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1173: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1241: I2a2a1b2a-L801
RISE1250: I2a2a-L59
RISE1252: I2a2a1-CTS616
RISE1254: I2a2a1b2a-L801

Description
In 2011 archaeological excavations near the village of Koszyce, Poland, uncovered a 5000-year-old mass burial with the remains of 15 men, women and children belonging to the Globular Amphora culture. All had suffered violent deaths but had been buried with great care.

Interesting...do you think that I2a2 came from the Balkans?

[KuriousKatKommittee]

Globular Amphora Culture (GAC), sample RISE11681

1 West_Med 46.18
2 North_Atlantic 36.99
4 Baltic 7.15

5 68.4% Sardinian + 31.6% Southwest_English @ 8.95
6 70.5% Sardinian + 29.5% West_Scottish @ 9.15
7 70.6% Sardinian + 29.4% Irish @ 9.27

7 [...] 29.4% Irish @ 9.27
13 [...] 27.9% Danish @ 10.19
Interesting. Activated my anthropology almonds once again and I know exactly how they looked like lul:
http://humanphenotypes.net/baskidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/baskidf.jpg

[Imperator Biff]

Strangely these samples appear to have been mostly dark haired/eyed unlike other samples from GAC which had a lot of blonde hair and blue eyes

[Dick]

Interesting. Activated my anthropology almonds once again and I know exactly how they looked like lul:
http://humanphenotypes.net/baskidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/baskidf.jpg

Good job but I don’t think they would be a phenotypic mix of modern people

[Peterski]

Good job but I don’t think they would be a phenotypic mix of modern people

They would probably be darker than that, but facial features are believable.

[Dick]

They would probably be darker than that, but facial features are believable.

Those people in the morphs have yamna admixture. Those ancient polaks were void of it which is why they speculate they were massacred by CW folk but probably weren’t