Most common phenotype among Iranian Azeris

[Oghuz]

(My own ethnicity)

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[Oghuz]

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http://www.sheva.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/SHEVA-Parisa-Tabriz.jpg

[KOZAK]

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[Oghuz]

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Yup !

... what about the phenotypes. Are they more Turks or more Iranians ?

[KOZAK]

She is caspid + iranid

[rajputprincess]

Good looking people [emoji176]

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[lameduck]

Irano Pontid, Caspid, Iranomed, Iranid

Noble looking people.

[Seth MacFarlane]

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Shes beautiful

[Seth MacFarlane]

Good looking people [emoji176]

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Agreed

[Arsen_]

Azeris from Iran and Azeris from Azerbaijan seem to look completely different.

[Oghuz]

Azeris from Iran and Azeris from Azerbaijan seem to look completely different.

What is the difference ?

I see more of a elongated Iranid Skull in Iranian Azerbaijan which is lesser but not absent in Azerbaijan republic.

[Oghuz]

Azeris from Iran and Azeris from Azerbaijan seem to look completely different.

What is the difference ?

I see more of a elongated Iranid Skull in Iranian Azerbaijan which is lesser but not absent in Azerbaijan republic.

[Fibonacci]

Azeris from Iran and Azeris from Azerbaijan seem to look completely different.

Not really, they overlap to a certain extent. Azerbaijan has a more caucasian element. You will start to see more mtebid and east med. Iranian Azeris are diverse in looks as well. I don't look like any of these people. I'm more alpine/east med.

A lot of these people are caspid. There's a lot of that in Azerbaijan. Also, a lot of Azerbaijanis look kurdish in my opinion.

[Arsen_]

What is the difference ?

I see more of a elongated Iranid Skull in Iranian Azerbaijan which is lesser but not absent in Azerbaijan republic.

I can't explaint that but Azeris from Azerbaijan have abolutely different vibe. In Russia I see them every day and almost no one looks like people in pictures you posted.

[Mingle]

I can't explaint that but Azeris from Azerbaijan have abolutely different vibe. In Russia I see them every day and almost no one looks like people in pictures you posted.

Which Azeris do you think resemble Armens more, Republic Azeris or Iranian Azeris?

[Arsen_]

Which Azeris do you think resemble Armens more, Republic Azeris or Iranian Azeris?

Jugding by your pictures Republic Azeris resemble more

[Arsen_]

Not really, they overlap to a certain extent. Azerbaijan has a more caucasian element. You will start to see more mtebid and east med. Iranian Azeris are diverse in looks as well. I don't look like any of these people. I'm more alpine/east med.

A lot of these people are caspid. There's a lot of that in Azerbaijan. Also, a lot of Azerbaijanis look kurdish in my opinion.

Sure they overlap to a certain extent but people posted in this thread are way more iranid than turanid which is not the case with Azeris from Azerbaijan.

[Oghuz]

Sure they overlap to a certain extent but people posted in this thread are way more iranid than turanid which is not the case with Azeris from Azerbaijan.

You have to take into consideration that Iranian azerbaijan and republic azerbaijan have been segregated for centuries now.

Or may be this Iranid gradient in the azerbaijan region that we see in Iranian azeris now, existed before as well.

[Stefanos.tasidis]

i am surprised to see most of them look southern european.
and that one really old guy can pass even slavic lol

[Oghuz]

i am surprised to see most of them look southern european.
and that one really old guy can pass even slavic lol

I would disagree. Make these people stand with Italians, Spaniards, Greeks and they will stick out bad.

[Oghuz]

Bump

[Oghuz]

Both are actresses of azeri, turkomen lineages.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Golshifteh_Farahani_Cannes_2018.jpg/220px-Golshifteh_Farahani_Cannes_2018.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHZZ3V2UwAAlKs0.jpg

[xtal]

In my experience they are mostly caspid, iranomed, pontid, armenoid, asiatic alpine. Also, some mtebids, turanid and indo iranids types are present but less common. In general they resemble kurmanji kurd and Armenians.

[FinalFlash]

In my experience they are mostly caspid, iranomed, pontid, armenoid, asiatic alpine. Also, some mtebids, turanid and indo iranids types are present but less common. In general they resemble kurmanji kurd and Armenians.

They resemble Azeris better than they do Armenians. They resemble Yezdis better also.

[Kamal900]

They resemble Azeris better than they do Armenians. They resemble Yezdis better also.

Agree.

[Mimi]

i am surprised to see most of them look southern european.
and that one really old guy can pass even slavic lol

Not really. They are taller than south euros and “slavic” look doesnt exist.

[xtal]

They resemble Azeris better than they do Armenians. They resemble Yezdis better also.
Maybe. I’ve been to Khoy and Salmas, the general population Looked like Armenians to me. Probably in other regions people look different. Also, yezidis usually tend to have lighter features like lighter hair and eye color but Iranian Azeris seem to have darker features.

[FinalFlash]

Maybe. I’ve been to Khoy and Salmas, the general population Looked like Armenians to me. Probably in other regions people look different. Also, yezidis usually tend to have lighter features like lighter hair and eye color but Iranian Azeris seem to have darker features.

You probably haven't seen too many Armenians. As a whole these people absolutely do not resemble Armenians better than neighboring Iranic speakers and Azeris.

[xtal]

You probably haven't seen too many Armenians. As a whole these people absolutely do not resemble Armenians better than neighboring Iranic speakers and Azeris.
You might be right like I said I’ve been to 2 cities in that region obviously they are going to look different from each other but as far as I’m concerned Khoy and Salmas has Armenian minority so maybe they mixed with Armenians?

[Oghuz]

Bump

[Oghuz]

Bump

[MS85]

About some of them I would think they were Persian

[MS85]

Also, Iranian Azeri look different from Azerbaijan people

[Oghuz]

About some of them I would think they were Persian

From my own experience. Iranian Azeri phenotypically resemble Kurds, Lurs, persians more than any Turkic ethnicity etc

Azeri is an ethno-cultural identity not just an ethnic one. Republic Azeris have lived in isolation for 200 years now. Iranian Azeris have been mixing with other fellow Iranic ethnicities for same amount of time.

Would some or most of them pass for Kurds ?

[MS85]

From my own experience. Iranian Azeri phenotypically resemble Kurds, Lurs, persians more than any Turkic ethnicity etc

Azeri is an ethno-cultural identity not just an ethnic one. Republic Azeris have lived in isolation for 200 years now. Iranian Azeris have been mixing with other fellow Iranic ethnicities for same amount of time.

Would some or most of them pass for Kurds ?Azerbaijan people were more Hurrian/Albanian and Turkic/Central Asian before they mixed with Kurds in the more recent times

Iranian Azeri look more 'Iranic'.

https://i.postimg.cc/NMqqry62/1e33498241f0e3548ffcf19c2666cced.png



Would some or most of them pass for Kurds ?It is very personal, but for me only some people from both groups can pass for Kurds. Average Kurdish look is still different.


Nice Azerbaijani girl.

https://i.postimg.cc/qvyGvzv5/ace.jpg

[Duffmannn]

I remember that years ago my football team, Atletico de Madrid, was sponsored by Azerbaijan in the T-Shirt. Leaders of the team went to the country to sign contracts, I remeber to see many azeris with the Atletico T-shirt and they were different to these photos, not so much, more mongrels, but obviously you have choosed pretty people.

Also two years ago we played against Qarabag in Champions.

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https://www.marcadorint.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/230x154xDSC_5987.jpg.pagespeed.ic.ramWrnMpzV.jpg

This was Gurbanov, Qarabag trainer.

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These boys came to Madrid to training at Atletico´s academy:

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[Oghuz]

I remember that years ago my football team, Atletico de Madrid, was sponsored by Azerbaijan in the T-Shirt. Leaders of the team went to the country to sign contracts, I remeber to see many azeris with the Atletico T-shirt and they were different to these photos, not so much, more mongrels, but obviously you have choosed pretty people.

Also two years ago we played against Qarabag in Champions.



Your post is fundamentally wrong.

People you posted are are Republic Azeris who are a separate nation for last 200 years.

People I have posted are Iranian Azeris. Both have genetic, phenotypical difference. Iranian Azeris are closer to Persians, Kurds.

These are Iranian Azeri Crowds. They look very different from your posted Turkic looking azeris from Republic.

https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg

https://ak3.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5387693/thumb/1.jpg

[Duffmannn]

Brutal differences yes...

xD

[Oghuz]

Brutal differences yes...

xD

So you agree that your post was wrong ?

Yes there is a difference. Republic Azeri phenotype is mostly Mtebid, Armenoid and Anatolid. All three are Brachycephalic and close to people of Caucasus. They are predominantly Turkic.

http://humanphenotypes.net/mtebidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/basic/armenoidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/armenidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/anatolidm.jpg

Among Iranian Azeris these types get overshadowed by the Progressive Iranid, Proto Iranid, Irano med, Pontid and Irano Nordoid types. If you have the eye, you will notice the elongated Skulls of Iranian Azeris compared to Republic ones. This difference always existed by the way. Azeri is an ethno-cultural term.

http://humanphenotypes.net/iranidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/protoiranidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/pontidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/protonordidm.jpghttp://humanphenotypes.net/basic/orientalidm.jpg

[Kyp]

[QUOTE=meson;6090130]So you agree that your post was wrong ?

Yes there is a difference. Republic Azeri phenotype is mostly Mtebid, Armenoid and Anatolid. All three are Brachycephalic and close to people of Caucasus. They are predominantly Turkic.

Caucasus shifted or predominantly Turkic? What are they know. Those are two very different things.
Also there is this common notion that Rep. Azeris are somehow more Turkic than Iranian Azeris, which isn't true at all. There isn't much of a difference in terms of siberian or turkic admixture.
The difference is just:
Rep Azeris: Caucasus > Iran > Oghuz
Iranian Azeris: Iran > Caucasus > Oghuz

[Bigsaul]

For a non West Asian observer differences between Azeris and Iranians don't look that different.

[Oghuz]

[QUOTE=meson;6090130]So you agree that your post was wrong ?

Yes there is a difference. Republic Azeri phenotype is mostly Mtebid, Armenoid and Anatolid. All three are Brachycephalic and close to people of Caucasus. They are predominantly Turkic.

Caucasus shifted or predominantly Turkic? What are they know. Those are two very different things.
Also there is this common notion that Rep. Azeris are somehow more Turkic than Iranian Azeris, which isn't true at all. There isn't much of a difference in terms of siberian or turkic admixture.
The difference is just:
Rep Azeris: Caucasus > Iran > Oghuz
Iranian Azeris: Iran > Caucasus > Oghuz

Turkic person can be Turanid, Iranid, proto Iranid, Mtebid, Armenoid, Anatolid, Cap med, Med, Alpine, Orientalid, Pontid, atlantomed etc. Turkic identity is far more ethnically diversified then Caucasus.

Republic Azeris are less diverse than Iranic azeris IMO.

[archangel]

Good looking people my friend :thumb001:

[Kyp]

[QUOTE=Kyp Snow;6090279]

Turkic person can be Turanid, Iranid, proto Iranid, Mtebid, Armenoid, Anatolid, Cap med, Med, Alpine, Orientalid, Pontid, atlantomed etc. Turkic identity is far more ethnically diversified then Caucasus.

Republic Azeris are less diverse than Iranic azeris IMO.

I was referring to your statement "they are predominantly Turkic". I know that there is no main Phenotype and look for Turkic people. How do you define "predominantly Turkic"? Rep. Azeri aren't more Turkic genetically than Iranian Azeris.

[Oghuz]

[QUOTE=meson;6090394]

I was referring to your statement "they are predominantly Turkic". I know that there is no main Phenotype and look for Turkic people. How do you define "predominantly Turkic"? Rep. Azeri aren't more Turkic genetically than Iranian Azeris.


IMO, republic azeris are bit more caucasus, turkic than Iranian azeris. Iranian azeris are more iranid usually.

[Oghuz]

Good looking people my friend :thumb001:

Thanks man

[ВЛАД]

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Caspid is most beautiful race in the world

[Kyp]

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IMO, republic azeris are bit more caucasus, turkic than Iranian azeris. Iranian azeris are more iranid usually.

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[Oghuz]

Caspid is most beautiful race in the world

I think she is proto iranid

[casedelpapel]

of course they look good, they resemble Kurds but still we are the real thing. They are IRANIAN not turkish and they look this way.

[Oghuz]

of course they look good, they resemble Kurds but still we are the real thing. They are IRANIAN not turkish and they look this way.

Our drift towards progressive skull is because of iranid mixing in us. We are cultural Turks but genetically more Iranians than anything.