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♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 03:29 AM
Liam Neeson in racism storm after admitting he wanted to kill a black man

5th February 2018

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Actor Liam Neeson is facing a major racism storm after admitting he once set out to kill an innocent black man.

He said he walked the streets with a weapon for a week years ago, hoping to take out his anger after someone close to him was raped by a black man.

The Hollywood star said he was ashamed of his actions, but his remarks have sparked widespread outrage.

Neeson hasn't commented further since the interview was published by The Independent on Monday.

He was speaking to promote his new film Cold Pursuit, a thriller about a man who seeks retribution after his son is murdered.

Asked how his character turns to anger, the actor replied that "something primal" kicks in when a someone close to you is the victim of violence.

He said: "God forbid you've ever had a member of your family hurt under criminal conditions. I'll tell you a story. This is true."

Neeson said the alleged rape took place a long time ago and he found out about it when he came back from a trip abroad. The actor went on to use racially offensive language about the attacker.

He said: "She handled the situation of the rape in the most extraordinary way.

"But my immediate reaction was... I asked, did she know who it was? No. What colour were they? She said it was a black person.

"I went up and down areas with a cosh, hoping I'd be approached by somebody - I'm ashamed to say that - and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some [uses air quotes with fingers] 'black bastard' would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him."

Neeson has been subject to huge criticism for the comments.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47117177

♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 03:30 AM
Liam Neeson's red carpet event has now been cancelled due to the ongoing racism storm:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47138980

♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 03:35 AM
He told ABC: "If she had said an Irish or a Scot or a Brit* or a Lithuanian it would - I know it would - have had the same effect.

"I was trying to show honour, to stand up for my dear friend in this terribly medieval fashion."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47133868

So if someone from Ireland or Scotland commits a crime... should people take it out on all Irish or Scottish people?! Kill millions of innocent people... just because somebody looks similar or has a similar accent to an individual person who committed a crime!? :icon_ask: Where's the logic in that? :confused:

*D'oh, a Scottish person from the island of Great Britain is British and European :rolleyes: ... just like a Spanish person is Iberian, and a Danish person is Scandinavian.

Every nation on the planet has individual people who've committed crimes... so if he wants to take the crimes of an individual person out on entire nations of people... he'd have to kill everyone on the planet. :rolleyes: :picard1:

♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 03:40 AM
It's reminscent of a criminal psycho who goes into a school and shoots and kills random innocent people ... because somebody else bullied the attacker in life. Psychos take their frustrations out on innocent people who never harmed their attacker.

Grace O'Malley
02-06-2019, 03:55 AM
People are such sensitive snowflakes these days. He was being brutally honest about something very devastating that happened to someone he cared about. He also admitted he was ashamed about this now. I think these sort of things should be talked about as it aids in people's understanding and when things are discussed it isn't all pushed underneath the surface which I think can cause deeper problems. Everything is so PC these days but it appears people can still say what they want about Irish people and no one bats an eyelid i.e. Azaelia Banks. Although no one appears to take her very seriously and thinks she's a bit unbalanced because she has a history of outbursts.


There is a blatant double standard when racist language is used against Irish people as a US rapper did this week, but shouldn’t racism be called out wherever it comes from?

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/blatant-racism-azealia-banks-irish-free-pass

It's obvious though in this day and age people have to be ultra-sensitive what they say. People will be scared to say anything especially in public at the rate things are going. While I don't agree with anyone being racist I still think people should be able to be honest as if people feel they can't speak their minds there could be a lot of resentment that isn't being acknowledged which can come out in other ways. Anyway Liam Neeson wasn't being racist and just was being very honest about how he felt about killing someone that raped someone he was close to. I think most people would feel like this and it is a natural reaction. The rapist happened to be black but if it was a white man there would be the same reaction.

Dick
02-06-2019, 03:56 AM
No wonder he's badass

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276989-Liam-Neeson-I2a

♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 03:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kdUSKIS--0&frags=pl%2Cwn

Liam Neeson is calling for more integration in Northern Irish schools between Catholics and Protestants:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38900064

I wonder if he wants to kill all Catholics if a Protestant is murdered by a Catholic ... or if he wants to kill all Protestants if a Catholic is murdered by a Protestant in Northern Ireland.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvK9RwzQqws&frags=pl%2Cwn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts&frags=pl%2Cwn

How about the Northern Irish (who are occupying Northern Ireland) just bugger-off and get out of Northern Ireland... and give NI back to the Irish. Problem solved.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhxhr7IsKjg&frags=pl%2Cwn

♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 04:06 AM
Azaelia Banks. Although no one appears to take her very seriously and thinks she's a bit unbalanced because she has a history of outbursts.

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/blatant-racism-azealia-banks-irish-free-pass

I also thought Azaelia's sick comments about Irish people were vile.

Luckily no innocent person has been killed by Liam, even though he had the evil thoughts in his head to criminally kill a random innocent person. If he'd have murdered an innocent person in the U.S., he'd be sent to Death Row.

Grace O'Malley
02-06-2019, 04:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kdUSKIS--0&frags=pl%2Cwn

Liam Neeson is calling for more integration in Northern Irish schools between Catholics and Protestants:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38900064

I wonder if he wants to kill all Catholics if a Protestant is murdered by a Catholic ... or if he wants to kill all Protestants if a Catholic is murdered by a Protestant in Northern Ireland.

He's just been honest and I admire him for it. He said that if it was an Irishman etc he would have felt the same way. I remember someone saying how they hated all Irish people because of an IRA bombing. People have to work through these issues and what's wrong with being honest? It can then be discussed and rationalised. He was explaining his initial reaction and how he realised he was wrong.

God forbid people should be honest about what happens when you are faced with traumas in your life.

Grace O'Malley
02-06-2019, 04:20 AM
I also thought Azaelia's sick comments about Irish people were vile.

Luckily no innocent person has been killed by Liam, even though he had the evil thoughts in his head to criminally kill a random innocent person. If he'd have murdered an innocent person in the U.S., he'd be sent to Death Row.

Yes but if you have a crime committed against you or a loved one you want to kill. Most people have this reaction but never go through with it. He was saying how he felt at the time. I've felt like killing people at times. I wouldn't act on it though. People often extend their hate to a whole group if someone from that group was a party to violence. It's a common reaction. It's the perpetrator who they really hate but people can take it out on innocent parties which is completely wrong. He was just saying what he felt like doing. I think it is a pity if we stifle people being honest in these circumstances. It can take some counselling for people and also close family and friends to cope with trauma so talking about how you feel is important. It looks like Liam will receive backlash from this and I don't agree he should. Heck he even admitted he was wrong to have those thoughts. It just looks like people now aren't going to be able to be honest and everyone will be muzzled because no one can say anything wrong or state what race perpetrators are because everyone is so sensitive about offending people.

People should be able to look at the context.

♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 04:40 AM
Yes but if you have a crime committed against you or a loved one you want to kill. Most people have this reaction but never go through with it. He was saying how he felt at the time. I've felt like killing people at times. I wouldn't act on it though. People often extend their hate to a whole group if someone from that group was a party to violence. It's a common reaction. It's the perpetrator who they really hate but people can take it out on innocent parties which is completely wrong. He was just saying what he felt like doing. I think it is a pity if we stifle people being honest in these circumstances. It can take some counselling for people and also close family and friends to cope with trauma so talking about how you feel is important. It looks like Liam will receive backlash from this and I don't agree he should. Heck he even admitted he was wrong to have those thoughts. It just looks like people now aren't going to be able to be honest and everyone will be muzzled because no one can say anything wrong or state what race perpetrators are because everyone is so sensitive about offending people.

People should be able to look at the context.

I was violently attacked and raped by a young black British teenager once. I was held hostage for 8 hours and my blood was over the walls and I had to go through a 2 week court trial. He cut me and drank my blood. I had to look at numerous pictures of bruises and cuts on me that the police photographed and pictures of the blood over the walls, during the upsetting, nerve-wrecking, and traumatic court trial where I stand-up in front of lots of people to give evidence and had to relive it all for the barristers and jurors.

I spent hours in hospital being examined and had to take sleeping pills for a month afterwards. I wasn't allowed to wash the broken glass from my hair until the police and medical examiners had documented all of my injuries.

My attacker also exposed himself to nurses in the hospital who treated my injuries. I had to go through counselling. The national media sensationalised it unfortunately, and some of the things they printed weren't quite accurate. I never spoke to the media, but the police forewarned me that they were present in the courtroom. The media weren't allowed to name me to protect my identity... but they named my attacker in numerous news articles.

I was offered large sums of money to do interviews with journalists, but I took my mother's advice and declined to give any interviews to the media to protect my identity. Journalists got hold of my number and they kept ringing me for several months with offers of thousands of pounds to do interviews with them. I just wanted some peace though.

Did I take it out on all black people, for what that individual maniac did to me? Did I take it out on all people with dark hair and brown eyes? No, because I'm mentally stronger than that. I went to counselling and had lots of support and help from my boyfriend and good friends and relatives. (My own son is half black, and his father and other black people I know as good friends were outraged over what happened to me and they supported me.)

Justice was served as I received a large sum in compensation and my attacker was found guilty by the jury of all 6 charges against him... and he was sent to a high security prison for 13 years. Probation workers keep me informed on him. He was initially taken to the Old Bailey court (the UK's top crown court) after he was arrested when black security guards and the police took his hands off me in the hospital.

The police told me that the reason why he was taken to the UK's top court before the trial happened 6 months later, was due to the way he was presenting himself during his police interviews. The police told me that he's the type of maniac who would kill someone if they released him. So he had to stay incarcerated until the trial.

He tried to intimidate me in the courtroom by touching himself and punching his head whilst I was tearfully giving evidence of the attack. Then he yelled abuse at the judge and accused the jury of being 'racist' and 'biased' for finding him guilty of all 6 charges against me and also against two nurses who also pressed charges against him. He was ordered to undergo a psychiatric assessment by the judge until he was sentenced 1 month later. The judge gave him the maximum sentence possible.

I suffered from shock and a lot of bruises, which healed. My ear was cut and required some stitches in hospital. I went to counselling sessions for a year afterwards.

I've met nice people and I've also encountered horrible people from all races and nationalities in London.... so I know from life experience that people are individuals with their own souls.

Maybe one day I'll give interviews with magazines when I feel ready, and if I can remain anonymous... and if it helps other victims of violent attacks to speak-out in court. Many females are too afraid and nervous to go through the court trial. I nearly backed-out at the last minute. I phoned Operation Sapphire at the police station the day before the trial commenced - and told them I can't go through with seeing him again in court. They encouraged me to give evidence in court as it would prevent him from being able to harm me or any other female and would bring justice. I was shaking in the court room due to my nerves. The police in the Operation Sapphire rape department supported me a lot.

If I ever decide to give interviews to womens magazines to encourage other victims of crimes to seek justice, I wish to remain anonymous - as I don't want random strangers to recognise me in the street if I give public interviews - and think, 'Oh, that's the poor female who was violently raped.' I don't want pity or to be regarded as a helpless victim... I've moved-on from it now and I just want a normal life.

Grace O'Malley
02-06-2019, 04:48 AM
I was violently attacked and raped by a black man once. I was held hostage for 8 hours and my blood was over the walls and I had to go through a 2 week court trial. I had to look at numerous pictures of bruises and cuts on me that the police photographed and pictures of the blood over the walls... during the traumatic court trial where I stand up in front of lots of people to give evidence.

I spent hours in hospital being examined and had to take sleeping pills for a month afterwards. I wasn't allowed to wash the broken glass from my hair until the police and medical examiners had documented all of my injuries.

My attacker also exposed himself to nurses in the hospital who treated my injuries. I had to go through counselling. The national media sensationalised it and some of the things they printed weren't quite accurate.

I was offered large sums of money to do interviews with journalists, but I took my mothers advice and declined to protect my identity.

Did I take it out on all black people? No. (My own son in half black and his father and other black people were outraged over what happened to me and they supported me.)

Justice was served as I received a large sum in compensation and my attacker was found guilty by the jury of all 6 charges against him... and he was sent to a high security prison for 13 years.

I've met nice people and horrible people in all races and nationalities in London.

Maybe one day I'll give interviews with magazines if it helps other victims of violent attacks.

You're amazing to come through that and be so well balanced. You are a real survivor Lily.

Yes I agree that whether someone is nice or horrible has nothing to do with race. I don't think Liam is racist though and he obviously has learned from his experiences as well.

I'm sorry you had to go through such a shocking experience. You obviously haven't let it defeat you though and come across as a very strong person which you must be to come out of that the way you have. Good on you for having the courage to talk about it as well.

Creoda
02-06-2019, 05:42 AM
What a legend. Hope he doesn't cuck too much.

Dna8
02-06-2019, 06:33 AM
But surely a man of his years could have related/phrased his sentiments more judiciously?

Kouros
02-06-2019, 07:25 AM
based

Dna8
02-06-2019, 07:58 AM
I was violently attacked and raped by a young black British teenager once. I was held hostage for 8 hours and my blood was over the walls and I had to go through a 2 week court trial. He cut me and drank my blood. I had to look at numerous pictures of bruises and cuts on me that the police photographed and pictures of the blood over the walls, during the upsetting, nerve-wrecking, and traumatic court trial where I stand-up in front of lots of people to give evidence and had to relive it all for the barristers and jurors.

I spent hours in hospital being examined and had to take sleeping pills for a month afterwards. I wasn't allowed to wash the broken glass from my hair until the police and medical examiners had documented all of my injuries.

My attacker also exposed himself to nurses in the hospital who treated my injuries. I had to go through counselling. The national media sensationalised it unfortunately, and some of the things they printed weren't quite accurate. I never spoke to the media, but the police forewarned me that they were present in the courtroom. The media weren't allowed to name me to protect my identity... but they named my attacker in numerous news articles.

I was offered large sums of money to do interviews with journalists, but I took my mother's advice and declined to give any interviews to the media to protect my identity. Journalists got hold of my number and they kept ringing me for several months with offers of thousands of pounds to do interviews with them. I just wanted some peace though.

Did I take it out on all black people, for what that individual maniac did to me? Did I take it out on all people with dark hair and brown eyes? No, because I'm mentally stronger than that. I went to counselling and had lots of support and help from my boyfriend and good friends and relatives. (My own son is half black, and his father and other black people I know as good friends were outraged over what happened to me and they supported me.)

Justice was served as I received a large sum in compensation and my attacker was found guilty by the jury of all 6 charges against him... and he was sent to a high security prison for 13 years. Probation workers keep me informed on him. He was initially taken to the Old Bailey court (the UK's top crown court) after he was arrested when black security guards and the police took his hands off me in the hospital.

The police told me that the reason why he was taken to the UK's top court before the trial happened 6 months later, was due to the way he was presenting himself during his police interviews. The police told me that he's the type of maniac who would kill someone if they released him. So he had to stay incarcerated until the trial.

He tried to intimidate me in the courtroom by touching himself and punching his head whilst I was tearfully giving evidence of the attack. Then he yelled abuse at the judge and accused the jury of being 'racist' and 'biased' for finding him guilty of all 6 charges against me and also against two nurses who also pressed charges against him. He was ordered to undergo a psychiatric assessment by the judge until he was sentenced 1 month later. The judge gave him the maximum sentence possible.

I suffered from shock and a lot of bruises, which healed. My ear was cut and required some stitches in hospital. I went to counselling sessions for a year afterwards.

I've met nice people and I've also encountered horrible people from all races and nationalities in London.... so I know from life experience that people are individuals with their own souls.

Maybe one day I'll give interviews with magazines when I feel ready, and if I can remain anonymous... and if it helps other victims of violent attacks to speak-out in court. Many females are too afraid and nervous to go through the court trial. I nearly backed-out at the last minute. I phoned Operation Sapphire at the police station the day before the trial commenced - and told them I can't go through with seeing him again in court. They encouraged me to give evidence in court as it would prevent him from being able to harm me or any other female and would bring justice. I was shaking in the court room due to my nerves. The police in the Operation Sapphire rape department supported me a lot.

If I ever decide to give interviews to womens magazines to encourage other victims of crimes to seek justice, I wish to remain anonymous - as I don't want random strangers to recognise me in the street if I give public interviews - and think, 'Oh, that's the poor female who was violently raped.' I don't want pity or to be regarded as a helpless victim... I've moved-on from it now and I just want a normal life.

Bravo, Lily. Much respect.

♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 03:53 PM
But surely a man of his years could have related/phrased his sentiments more judiciously?

He's not stated that he's learned from his previous immature way of thinking. Nor has he stated that he's grown-up now and learned that people are individuals who can't be pigeon-holed. Nor has he stated that it's unfair and unjust to blame every innocent person in life for the crimes of somebody else.

It's a weak mentality when people allow their attacker to get the better of them - so that they take it out on innocent people.

What kind of world would we have if everyone was seeking to murder anyone who's Scottish, Irish, Black, Lithuanian, etc... depending on the nationality or the appearance of an individual who committed a crime.

When people are arrested for a crime - e.g; serial killer Doctor Harold Shipman... the police didn't arrest every white person in England - nor charge every white English person with the crimes of that serial-killing doctor, who murdered hundreds of his patients and stole money from their wills.

The police didn't take every white English person into custody for being the same colour and the same nationality as the white English serial killer Doctor Harold Shipman. It's a good job that Liam wasn't here... or would he be running around the streets seeking to kill all white English people?!

Has Liam Neeson ever heard of professional detective investigations, police evidence, DNA/fibres/medical evidence, court trial hearings, legal representation and lawyers on behalf of the accused person during court trial hearings, etc... before determining a person's innocence or guilt?

It's like his acting roles have gone to his head;- he's not qualified to be a detective, nor qualified to be a member of the FBI in real life. He should leave detective investigations and the criminal justice system to be dealt with by professional experts.

♥ Lily ♥
02-06-2019, 04:02 PM
Liam Neeson has come under fire again for defending Dustin Hoffman against sexual misconduct allegations, and for opposing MeToo.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3964988/liam-neeson-under-fire-after-defending-dustin-hoffman-opposing-metoo/

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/liam-neeson-hollywood-sex-scandal-dustin-hoffman-childhood-stuff-weinstein-spacey-behaviour-late-a8157411.html

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/people/liam-neeson-sexual-harassment-allegations-dustin-hoffman-childhood-stuff/

It seems like the more he opens his mouth, the more he's winding people up. :dunno:

Was he there to know what Dustin did to those females in private?! :icon_ask: This actor says he's all for freedom of speech - so why can't those females freely speak about what has happened to them? Or are they supposed to be gagged and stay silent?

He didn't say that his female friend was lying though when she was raped... he just ran out in the streets carrying a cosh on him like a maniac.... looking for some random innocent man to accuse and murder for a crime that they never committed.

Then he's got the audacity to accuse females of going on a 'witch-hunt' for making sexual misconduct accusations against Dustin Hoffman. Those females aren't running around the streets carrying a cosh like Liam did, when he went on a witch-hunt and sought to kill random innocent men for a crime that they didn't commit.

I can understand people taking out their anger on the actual person who is guilty of committing the crime ... but not to criminally attack and murder innocent people who never raped his friend.

Would Liam like to receive his own treatment back..? :icon_ask: ('What's good for the goose is good for the gander!' :P) Would he like to be wrongly accused and blamed for any crimes committed by people in Northern Ireland..? I doubt it.

Hulu
02-06-2019, 04:46 PM
This is a pretty dumb story. I'll never get the hoopla about it.

Ayetooey
02-06-2019, 04:48 PM
It happened 40 years ago and he has mentioned he felt regret over it; he told his story to demonstrate how racism and revenge can get the better of people.

Dna8
02-06-2019, 09:08 PM
Maybe Liam just wanted to partake of the modern world's/media's capacity for generating storms of controversy/notoriety.. seems a good enough explanation as any for why a man in his sixties opted for the rhetorical strategy he did..

Liam Neeson is a fu**ing Saint!

We have all just, Taken, his sentiments the wrong way..

Dna8
02-06-2019, 09:56 PM
In any event, it seems a warrant has already been issued for his arrest:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276702-In-concert-with-Interpol-TA-s-Most-Wanted&p=5782865&viewfull=1#post5782865

Harkonnen
02-13-2019, 09:32 PM
This got me thinking my uncle. He assaulted a guy who had rapemurdered a girl. It was pretty fucked up case, the guy had liced off the girls breasts fex. So the guy became disabled (crippled) and my uncle had to pay the guy monthly checks in compensation. Luckily my uncle killed himself few years later, so the checks stopped mailing in.