Eurogenes k15 PCA of my Serbian matches

[CommonSense]

I included only the people who left enough information for me to deduce that they are chiefly, if not fully, ethnic Serbs. A few individuals cluster literally on top of each other so I apologise if it seems like a mess at first...you should still be able to make everything out if you zoom in enough.

It would be cool if the other tested Serbian users did the same thing for their matches too.

https://i.imgur.com/b7Av1to.png

[Dušan]

Good topic :thumb001:

[Ayetooey]

I'm guessing the extreme south plotting number 10 is from Montenegro but slightly mispelt?

Number 12 from Croatia also plots south, definitely not an Orthodox Croat!

[CommonSense]

I'm guessing the extreme south plotting number 10 is from Montenegro but slightly mispelt?

Number 12 from Croatia also plots south, definitely not an Orthodox Croat!

Yeah, she is fully Montenegrin and her father is from Podgorica (surname Pešić). I was stunned too when I saw where she plots. This is the first actual Montegrin sample I've seen so far, now I'm quite curious whether or not all of them are so different from Serbian, Bosnian and Croatian Serbs.

[Ayetooey]

Yeah, she is fully Montenegrin and her father is from Podgorica (surname Pešić). I was stunned too when I saw where she plots. This is the first actual Montegrin sample I've seen so far, now I'm quite curious whether or not all of them are so different from Serbian, Bosnian and Croatian Serbs.

I haven't seen any proper samples myself so this is just me guessing, but I would assume based on Y dna and clan locations, Montenegrins in West and North would be closer to Serbs, where as East Montenegrins who from maps I've seen are heavily ev13 would be more south plotting. Even Y dna maps I've seen have low samples so probably aren't a great representation, but east including Podgorica is always highest in EV13 and other southern y dnas.

[CommonSense]

Gedmatch scores of the Montenegrin woman:

Eurogenes k15:

1 West_Med 17.22
2 Baltic 17.17
3 East_Med 15.49
4 North_Sea 13.95
5 West_Asian 11.68
6 Eastern_Euro 11.36
7 Atlantic 10.03
8 Red_Sea 1.95
9 Siberian 0.78
10 Southeast_Asian 0.36
11 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.35
2 Romanian 7.16
3 Greek_Thessaly 9.61
4 Serbian 10.06
5 Greek 11.22
6 Moldavian 11.59
7 Croatian 14.52
8 Hungarian 15.7
9 Tuscan 15.78
10 Central_Greek 15.99
11 Ashkenazi 15.99
12 Italian_Abruzzo 16.63
13 Austrian 17.06
14 East_Sicilian 17.12
15 North_Italian 17.19
16 West_Sicilian 18.31
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.5
18 South_Italian 19.59
19 East_German 20.12
20 Ukrainian 20.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.5% Greek_Thessaly + 24.5% Erzya @ 4.5
2 55.7% Greek_Thessaly + 44.3% Moldavian @ 4.53
3 72.8% Greek_Thessaly + 27.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.77
4 73.6% Greek_Thessaly + 26.4% Southwest_Russian @ 4.92
5 70.6% Greek_Thessaly + 29.4% Ukrainian @ 4.97
6 51% Greek + 49% Moldavian @ 5.03
7 59.2% Moldavian + 40.8% Central_Greek @ 5.04
8 75.6% Greek_Thessaly + 24.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.06
9 75.5% Greek_Thessaly + 24.5% Estonian_Polish @ 5.12
10 64.5% Moldavian + 35.5% South_Italian @ 5.17
11 73.4% Moldavian + 26.6% Cyprian @ 5.17
12 69.9% Greek_Thessaly + 30.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.18
13 77.7% Greek_Thessaly + 22.3% Lithuanian @ 5.23
14 73.9% Greek_Thessaly + 26.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.25
15 75.8% Greek_Thessaly + 24.2% Belorussian @ 5.34
16 62.8% Greek_Thessaly + 37.2% Croatian @ 5.36
17 71.4% Greek_Thessaly + 28.6% South_Polish @ 5.36
18 61.3% Moldavian + 38.7% East_Sicilian @ 5.42
19 56.7% Central_Greek + 43.3% Ukrainian @ 5.48
20 74.4% Greek_Thessaly + 25.6% Polish @ 5.54

Eurogenes k13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.69
2 West_Med 21.46
3 North_Atlantic 18.23
4 East_Med 17.79
5 West_Asian 12.31
6 Red_Sea 2.21
7 Siberian 1.36
8 East_Asian 0.76
9 Amerindian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.23
2 Romanian 6.86
3 Serbian 9.89
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.89
5 Moldavian 12.62
6 Croatian 15.91
7 Central_Greek 17.27
8 Hungarian 17.42
9 Tuscan 17.51
10 Italian_Abruzzo 17.96
11 North_Italian 18.05
12 East_Sicilian 18.68
13 West_Sicilian 19.08
14 Austrian 20.29
15 Ashkenazi 20.69
16 South_Italian 21.67
17 East_German 21.77
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.86
19 Ukrainian 23.06
20 South_Polish 23.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.7% Moldavian + 41.3% Central_Greek @ 4.89
2 95.7% Bulgarian + 4.3% Sardinian @ 4.97
3 54.5% Greek_Thessaly + 45.5% Moldavian @ 4.97
4 96.7% Bulgarian + 3.3% Mari @ 5.06
5 96.2% Bulgarian + 3.8% Chuvash @ 5.06
6 98.1% Bulgarian + 1.9% Selkup @ 5.06
7 75.4% Greek_Thessaly + 24.6% Erzya @ 5.07
8 98.2% Bulgarian + 1.8% Ket @ 5.08
9 96.1% Bulgarian + 3.9% Erzya @ 5.09
10 98% Bulgarian + 2% Hakas @ 5.1
11 57.7% Central_Greek + 42.3% Ukrainian @ 5.11
12 95.7% Bulgarian + 4.3% Tatar @ 5.11
13 98.8% Bulgarian + 1.2% Yakut @ 5.12
14 98.8% Bulgarian + 1.2% Dolgan @ 5.12
15 98.1% Bulgarian + 1.9% Shors @ 5.13
16 98.9% Bulgarian + 1.1% Evenki @ 5.13
17 92% Bulgarian + 8% Moldavian @ 5.13
18 98.9% Bulgarian + 1.1% Evens @ 5.13
19 98.6% Bulgarian + 1.4% Tuvinian @ 5.13
20 98.7% Bulgarian + 1.3% Buryat @ 5.13

Dodecad k12b:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 31.97
2 Caucasus 28.48
3 Atlantic_Med 27.35
4 Southwest_Asian 6.49
5 Gedrosia 3.8
6 East_Asian 1.08
7 Northwest_African 0.43
8 Siberian 0.25
9 Southeast_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 4.62
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 4.68
3 Romanians (Behar) 4.89
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.36
5 Greek (Dodecad) 13.88
6 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.81
7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.85
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.95
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 15.96
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.77
11 Hungarians (Behar) 18.9
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.88
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.95
14 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.95
15 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.18
16 German (Dodecad) 23.56
17 French (HGDP) 24.85
18 French (Dodecad) 24.86
19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 25.99
20 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 26.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.03
2 80.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 19.4% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.05
3 57.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 42.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.23
4 92% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 1.4
5 70.6% Romanians (Behar) + 29.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.41
6 87.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.5% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 1.41
7 87.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.9% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 1.55
8 85.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.3% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.57
9 77.3% Romanians (Behar) + 22.7% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.59
10 78.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.6
11 77.3% Romanians (Behar) + 22.7% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.62
12 88.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 1.69
13 77.6% Romanians (Behar) + 22.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.7
14 87.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.4% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.76
15 88.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.77
16 88.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.2% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 1.79
17 92.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.6% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 1.8
18 86.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.4% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 1.85
19 72.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.85
20 87.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.5% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.87

[Ayetooey]

Damn, this lady must be Kuci clan lol.

[Pribislav]

Damn, this lady must be Kuci clan lol.

She is pretty southern from few Montenegrins whose results I have seen. Maybe recent Albanian admixture...

[CommonSense]

She is pretty southern from few Montenegrins whose results I have seen. Maybe recent Albanian admixture...

Albanians shift toward Tuscans from what I've seen, this one is more eastern than even Bulgarians!! If she does have some Albanian ancestry then she is an even bigger outlier:

http://i68.tinypic.com/s3kaqw.jpg

[Carpatz]

Number 12 on the chart seems south shifting for a Croat Serb

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Nice work man.

[Ayetooey]

Albanians shift toward Tuscans from what I've seen, this one is more eastern than even Bulgarians!! If she does have some Albanian ancestry then she is an even bigger outlier:

http://i68.tinypic.com/s3kaqw.jpg

I was just on same thread getting ready to post that! Yes Albanians all seem to plot west, she plots south like them but east.

[Ayetooey]

Number 12 on the chart seems south shifting for a Croat

He is Serb from I am guessing North Croatia, he plots quite to the south of Dalmatian serb samples 5/15 who seem to plot right on the serbian dot.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Montenegrin woman plots very similar like female user from southeastern Romania IIRC. Her friend from same region plotted close also. She posted it somehwere few days ago.
So not exactly Albanian.

[CommonSense]

Number 12 on the chart seems south shifting for a Croat Serb

It's some old guy from America, all of his grandparents were Serbs from Croatia who migrated to the US in the beginning of the 20th century. He has an elevated South Asian score (around 2%, like Ayetooey), though nothing else really out of the ordinary.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Found the post where Seya posted her and her friend plotting, it's close to sample no. 10 indeed. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?267161-Are-Krajina-Serbs-really-Vlachs&p=5780229&viewfull=1#post5780229

[CommonSense]

Found the post where Seya posted her and her friend plotting, it's close to sample no. 10 indeed. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?267161-Are-Krajina-Serbs-really-Vlachs&p=5780229&viewfull=1#post5780229

Seya and her friend are further to the southeast, but she is definitely closer to them than she is to us and even the Albanians!

[Insuperable]

I haven't seen any proper samples myself so this is just me guessing, but I would assume based on Y dna and clan locations, Montenegrins in West and North would be closer to Serbs, where as East Montenegrins who from maps I've seen are heavily ev13 would be more south plotting. Even Y dna maps I've seen have low samples so probably aren't a great representation, but east including Podgorica is always highest in EV13 and other southern y dnas.

Here is a I1 Montenegrin from NW Montenegro. He posted before Eurogenes K13 and K15 were out, but he posted results of lots of other calculators.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?47028-Viljuska-23andme-results

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Seya and her friend are further to the southeast, but she is definitely closer to them than she is to us and even the Albanians!

Yes, agree. What about her husband from central-south Serbia, where's he from exactly ?

[Carpatz]

It's some old guy from America, all of his grandparents were Serbs from Croatia who migrated to the US in the beginning of the 20th century. He has an elevated South Asian score (around 2%, like Ayetooey), though nothing else really out of the ordinary.

I noticed that even seemingly insignificant amounts of "non-European" components can alter the way you plot significantly. If I remove my 1-2% east asian+siberian, I plot west of Serbia.

[CommonSense]

Yes, agree. What about her husband from central-south Serbia, where's he from exactly ?

His father's side is from a village called Gornja Koritnica (https://www.poreklo.rs/2016/01/01/poreklo-prezimena-selo-gornja-koritnica-bela-palanka/) and his mother's from the village Kusadak, one of the largest in Serbia :D

[CommonSense]

Here is a I1 Montenegrin from NW Montenegro. He posted before Eurogenes K13 and K15 were out, but he posted results of lots of other calculators.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?47028-Viljuska-23andme-results

These are outdated calculators and I don't know if they have been updated since 2012 or not, but this guy is much closer to me than the mentioned woman. He seems only slightly southern shifted than the Serbian average.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

His father's side is from a village called Gornja Koritnica (https://www.poreklo.rs/2016/01/01/poreklo-prezimena-selo-gornja-koritnica-bela-palanka/) and his mother's from the village Kusadak, one of the largest in Serbia :D

Looks like he has lot of Slavic ancestry. Always presumed villagers would be more Slavic than your average city folk.

[CommonSense]

Added three more people I managed to find:

https://i.imgur.com/L7zenmZ.png

[CommonSense]

I've added three more people, that's 21 in total now.

https://i.imgur.com/1qi57OR.png

[MercifulServant]

Add me

[Dick]

Are you sure number 10 dosnt have gypsy admixture? Close to impaler and Mortimer

[Ayetooey]

Are you sure number 10 dosnt have gypsy admixture? Close to impaler and Mortimer

Mortimer and impaler are half way in between c Greek and lezgin if I recall, distant from 10. 10 also scores 0 percent south Asian on gedmatch.

[Leto]

Are you sure number 10 dosnt have gypsy admixture? Close to impaler and Mortimer
Impaler says he is not part Romani.

[Luke35]

Impaler says he is not part Romani.

He has also told me he is not part Romani. Seems to me it is likely Turkic ancestry that pulls Impaler east (he has zero South Asian on 23andMe).

[Kaspias]

He has told me he is not part Romani. Seems to me it is likely Turkic ancestry that pulls Impaler east (he has zero South Asian on 23andMe).

He both has Turkic-variety and South-Asian/Iranic-variety ancestry. 6% South Asian on K13 can't be explainable with only Turkic theory imo.

[Luke35]

He both has Turkic-variety and South-Asian/Iranic-variety ancestry. 6% South Asian on K13 can't be explainable with only Turkic theory imo.

Okay, I kinda threw my hands up and thought well maybe his South Asian score on Gedmatch was just misappropriated Turkic ancestry. Your explanation is a good one.

[CommonSense]

Are you sure number 10 dosnt have gypsy admixture? Close to impaler and Mortimer

She scores zero South Asian and her results are more, for example, like Vojnik than those two you mentioned. Impaler is, as far as I know, between Balkans and West Asia, but closer to the former, and Mortimer clusters near Anatolian Turks.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Mate, this is my Serbian DNA relative results.

Admix Results (sorted):

1 East_Med 22.91
2 Baltic 18.52
3 North_Sea 13.65
4 West_Asian 12.43
5 Atlantic 10.07
6 Eastern_Euro 10.02
7 West_Med 9.52
8 Red_Sea 2.6
9 Southeast_Asian 0.16
10 Oceanian 0.1
11 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

1 Bulgarian 8.69
2 Romanian 9.83
3 Greek_Thessaly 10.57
4 Greek 11.37
5 Serbian 13
6 Ashkenazi 14.11
7 Central_Greek 14.87
8 Moldavian 15.35
9 Italian_Abruzzo 15.88
10 East_Sicilian 16.07
11 Croatian 17.7
12 West_Sicilian 17.85
13 Tuscan 17.9
14 South_Italian 18.18
15 Hungarian 18.36
16 Austrian 19.33
17 North_Italian 21.17
18 Italian_Jewish 21.55
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.92
20 Sephardic_Jewish 22.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 59% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.72
2 57.8% Ukrainian + 42.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.82
3 53.8% Cyprian + 46.2% Lithuanian @ 3.84
4 57.9% South_Polish + 42.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.02
5 58.1% Ukrainian + 41.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.08
6 53.7% Cyprian + 46.3% Estonian @ 4.08
7 58.2% South_Polish + 41.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.09
8 59.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.16
9 67.7% Moldavian + 32.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.18
10 53.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.1% Cyprian @ 4.28
11 52.6% Ukrainian + 47.4% Cyprian @ 4.33
12 64.4% Croatian + 35.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.4
13 51.3% Cyprian + 48.7% Belorussian @ 4.5
14 52.7% South_Polish + 47.3% Cyprian @ 4.56
15 50.6% Southwest_Russian + 49.4% Cyprian @ 4.64
16 51.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 48.6% Cyprian @ 4.71
17 55.5% Polish + 44.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.77
18 53.9% Ukrainian + 46.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.83
19 50% Polish + 50% Cyprian @ 4.93
20 55.3% Polish + 44.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.93

Looks pretty southern, could you plot her on PCA ?

[Ayetooey]

22% East Med is extreme, Serb average is 15%. Where is this dude from Nato?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

22% East Med is extreme, Serb average is 15%. Where is this dude from Nato?

It's a woman. Name Jovana Bojić no idea where she's from. Montenegrin maybe ?

[Leto]

22% East Med is extreme, Serb average is 15%. Where is this dude from Nato?
On K15 it is 12% for Serbs and 6% for Croats actually.

[Ayetooey]

On K15 it is 12% for Serbs and 6% for Croats actually.

Oh whoops I was thinking of k15 where it's 15.63%. Bizarre. Her surname is highest density in Montenegro so possible she's from there.

[CommonSense]

It's a woman. Name Jovana Bojić no idea where she's from. Montenegrin maybe ?

I always check a person's family tree because a name and a surname mean nothing to me (they could still have a foreign parent). This woman, if she is fully Serbian, is even more atypical than the one I already posted. Take a look:

https://i.imgur.com/5sI9Kyg.png

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I always check a person's family tree because a name and a surname mean nothing to me (they could still have a foreign parent). This woman, if she is fully Serbian, is even more atypical than the one I already posted. Take a look:

https://i.imgur.com/5sI9Kyg.png

Lol man She plot exact like Seya I think. Probably she is hot. Aromanian ancestry ? For sure not Albanian, she is very far from them.

[CommonSense]

Lol man She plot exact like Seya I think. Probably she is hot. Aromanian ancestry ? For sure not Albanian, she is very far from them.

I think Jewish would make most sense, since they have a lot of east med + some west asian. A half Serbian, half Jewish person would plot more or less where she does.

[Ford]

I think this might be the appropriate thread to post this in? Anyways, this is the K15 plot of one of my Montenegrin dna relatives who has listed two surnames being from western Herzegovina and one from northern Bosnia (the rest (4) are from Montenegro).

https://i.imgur.com/IAcXPr2.png

[CommonSense]

I think this might be the appropriate thread to post this in? Anyways, this is the K15 plot of one of my Montenegrin dna relatives who has listed two surnames being from western Herzegovina and one from northern Bosnia (the rest are from Montenegro).



Nice find. His BiH ancestry must be pulling him to the northeast. A lot of Montenegrin Serbs could still have some recent ancestry from elsewhere, though even without it they are a part of our cluster. This guy plots on the same spot as Decius.

[Ford]

Nice find. His BiH ancestry must be pulling him to the northeast. A lot of Montenegrin Serbs could still have some recent ancestry from elsewhere, though even without it they are a part of our cluster. This guy plots on the same spot as Decius.

I've been following some of the discussion regarding Montenegrin results and I've gotten quite interested. I'll try to look through some more of my dna relatives to see if I can find more results and return with a more compiled plot of Montenegrins.

[CommonSense]

I guess I should post this guy here too, this is an extraordinary find, I can't believe I let it slip.

Anywhow, this man is a muslim from the Montenegrin part of Sandzak, a place called Vrbica. He has an Albanian haplogroup, R-Y32147 and among his relatives a ton are Albanians and one of the top matches is the banned member 'The Illyrian Warrior'. Interestingly, even despite that it seems he is closer to us than to the average Gheg.

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.96
2 North_Atlantic 23.97
3 West_Med 18.86
4 East_Med 17.28
5 West_Asian 9.43
6 Red_Sea 2.09
7 Siberian 0.76
8 Amerindian 0.65

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.29
2 Serbian 4.27
3 Bulgarian 4.71
4 Moldavian 9.17
5 Croatian 11.7
6 Hungarian 11.93
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
8 Austrian 14.77
9 East_German 16.37
10 North_Italian 16.46
11 Tuscan 17.25
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.24
13 South_Polish 18.99
14 West_German 19.23
15 Italian_Abruzzo 19.33
16 Ukrainian 19.41
17 French 19.58
18 Central_Greek 19.99
19 West_Sicilian 20.49
20 South_Dutch 20.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.5% Croatian + 47.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2
2 67.7% Croatian + 32.3% South_Italian @ 2.22
3 59.8% Greek_Thessaly + 40.2% South_Polish @ 2.33
4 60.3% Greek_Thessaly + 39.7% Ukrainian @ 2.34
5 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Croatian @ 2.37
6 63.9% Greek_Thessaly + 36.1% Polish @ 2.41
7 63.4% Croatian + 36.6% Central_Greek @ 2.42
8 55.6% Ukrainian + 44.4% South_Italian @ 2.44
9 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% East_German @ 2.47
10 51.4% Ukrainian + 48.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.51
11 64% Croatian + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.55
12 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.56
13 53.7% Serbian + 46.3% Bulgarian @ 2.59
14 85% Romanian + 15% Croatian @ 2.6
15 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Polish @ 2.6
16 82.8% Bulgarian + 17.2% South_Polish @ 2.62
17 64.8% Croatian + 35.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
18 90.6% Romanian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.62
19 83.1% Bulgarian + 16.9% Ukrainian @ 2.63
20 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.64

Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.05
2 North_Sea 16.28
3 Atlantic 15.88
4 West_Med 14.18
5 East_Med 14.14
6 Eastern_Euro 10.71
7 West_Asian 8.46
8 Red_Sea 1.98
9 Amerindian 0.31
10 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.57
2 Serbian 4.89
3 Bulgarian 4.91
4 Moldavian 8.55
5 Croatian 9.86
6 Hungarian 10.56
7 Austrian 10.91
8 Greek_Thessaly 11.92
9 Greek 12.86
10 East_German 14.82
11 North_Italian 14.89
12 Tuscan 15.14
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.91
14 South_Polish 16.47
15 Ukrainian 16.83
16 Italian_Abruzzo 17.48
17 French 17.88
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.24
19 Ashkenazi 18.28
20 Central_Greek 18.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Croatian + 45.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.75
2 69.2% Croatian + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.14
3 61.8% Greek_Thessaly + 38.2% Polish @ 2.21
4 65.5% Croatian + 34.5% Central_Greek @ 2.32
5 70.4% Bulgarian + 29.6% Hungarian @ 2.32
6 55.1% Hungarian + 44.9% Greek @ 2.34
7 56.9% Greek + 43.1% Ukrainian @ 2.36
8 55.5% Greek + 44.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.38
9 56.9% Croatian + 43.1% Greek @ 2.42
10 56.4% Ukrainian + 43.6% South_Italian @ 2.5
11 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% South_Polish @ 2.51
12 66.6% Croatian + 33.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.52
13 56.4% Greek + 43.6% South_Polish @ 2.53
14 57% South_Polish + 43% South_Italian @ 2.54
15 72.8% Croatian + 27.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.62
16 62.4% Greek_Thessaly + 37.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.69
17 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Ukrainian @ 2.7
18 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% East_German @ 2.72
19 65% Greek_Thessaly + 35% Estonian_Polish @ 2.75
20 52.8% Ukrainian + 47.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.77


Dodecad K12B:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.08
2 Atlantic_Med 27.54
3 Caucasus 23.58
4 Southwest_Asian 5.68
5 Gedrosia 5.17
6 Siberian 1.04
7 Northwest_African 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 5.76
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.22
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.66
4 Hungarians (Behar) 13.38
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.12
6 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.11
7 German (Dodecad) 17.84
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.22
9 Greek (Dodecad) 19.57
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.73
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.13
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.43
13 French (Dodecad) 20.99
14 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.04
15 French (HGDP) 21.13
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 22.65
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 24.4
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 24.66
19 English (Dodecad) 24.82
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 0.95
2 66.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 33.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.23
3 66.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 33.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.23
4 68.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.32
5 66.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 33.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.41
6 79.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.9% British (Dodecad) @ 1.43
7 78.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.46
8 79.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.3% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.5
9 79.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.2% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.53
10 79.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.53
11 77.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.57
12 77.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.1% English (Dodecad) @ 1.6
13 68.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.62
14 79.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.2% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.63
15 64.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.63
16 72.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.63
17 77.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.63
18 74.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.71
19 73.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.72
20 78.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.74

[Pribislav]

I guess I should post this guy here too, this is an extraordinary find, I can't believe I let it slip.

Anywhow, this man is a muslim from the Montenegrin part of Sandzak, a place called Vrbica. He has an Albanian haplogroup, R-Y32147 and among his relatives a ton are Albanians and one of the top matches is the banned member 'The Illyrian Warrior'. Interestingly, even despite that it seems he is closer to us than to the average Gheg.

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.96
2 North_Atlantic 23.97
3 West_Med 18.86
4 East_Med 17.28
5 West_Asian 9.43
6 Red_Sea 2.09
7 Siberian 0.76
8 Amerindian 0.65

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.29
2 Serbian 4.27
3 Bulgarian 4.71
4 Moldavian 9.17
5 Croatian 11.7
6 Hungarian 11.93
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
8 Austrian 14.77
9 East_German 16.37
10 North_Italian 16.46
11 Tuscan 17.25
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.24
13 South_Polish 18.99
14 West_German 19.23
15 Italian_Abruzzo 19.33
16 Ukrainian 19.41
17 French 19.58
18 Central_Greek 19.99
19 West_Sicilian 20.49
20 South_Dutch 20.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.5% Croatian + 47.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2
2 67.7% Croatian + 32.3% South_Italian @ 2.22
3 59.8% Greek_Thessaly + 40.2% South_Polish @ 2.33
4 60.3% Greek_Thessaly + 39.7% Ukrainian @ 2.34
5 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Croatian @ 2.37
6 63.9% Greek_Thessaly + 36.1% Polish @ 2.41
7 63.4% Croatian + 36.6% Central_Greek @ 2.42
8 55.6% Ukrainian + 44.4% South_Italian @ 2.44
9 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% East_German @ 2.47
10 51.4% Ukrainian + 48.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.51
11 64% Croatian + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.55
12 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.56
13 53.7% Serbian + 46.3% Bulgarian @ 2.59
14 85% Romanian + 15% Croatian @ 2.6
15 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Polish @ 2.6
16 82.8% Bulgarian + 17.2% South_Polish @ 2.62
17 64.8% Croatian + 35.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
18 90.6% Romanian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.62
19 83.1% Bulgarian + 16.9% Ukrainian @ 2.63
20 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.64

Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.05
2 North_Sea 16.28
3 Atlantic 15.88
4 West_Med 14.18
5 East_Med 14.14
6 Eastern_Euro 10.71
7 West_Asian 8.46
8 Red_Sea 1.98
9 Amerindian 0.31
10 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.57
2 Serbian 4.89
3 Bulgarian 4.91
4 Moldavian 8.55
5 Croatian 9.86
6 Hungarian 10.56
7 Austrian 10.91
8 Greek_Thessaly 11.92
9 Greek 12.86
10 East_German 14.82
11 North_Italian 14.89
12 Tuscan 15.14
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.91
14 South_Polish 16.47
15 Ukrainian 16.83
16 Italian_Abruzzo 17.48
17 French 17.88
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.24
19 Ashkenazi 18.28
20 Central_Greek 18.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Croatian + 45.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.75
2 69.2% Croatian + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.14
3 61.8% Greek_Thessaly + 38.2% Polish @ 2.21
4 65.5% Croatian + 34.5% Central_Greek @ 2.32
5 70.4% Bulgarian + 29.6% Hungarian @ 2.32
6 55.1% Hungarian + 44.9% Greek @ 2.34
7 56.9% Greek + 43.1% Ukrainian @ 2.36
8 55.5% Greek + 44.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.38
9 56.9% Croatian + 43.1% Greek @ 2.42
10 56.4% Ukrainian + 43.6% South_Italian @ 2.5
11 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% South_Polish @ 2.51
12 66.6% Croatian + 33.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.52
13 56.4% Greek + 43.6% South_Polish @ 2.53
14 57% South_Polish + 43% South_Italian @ 2.54
15 72.8% Croatian + 27.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.62
16 62.4% Greek_Thessaly + 37.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.69
17 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Ukrainian @ 2.7
18 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% East_German @ 2.72
19 65% Greek_Thessaly + 35% Estonian_Polish @ 2.75
20 52.8% Ukrainian + 47.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.77


Dodecad K12B:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.08
2 Atlantic_Med 27.54
3 Caucasus 23.58
4 Southwest_Asian 5.68
5 Gedrosia 5.17
6 Siberian 1.04
7 Northwest_African 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 5.76
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.22
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.66
4 Hungarians (Behar) 13.38
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.12
6 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.11
7 German (Dodecad) 17.84
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.22
9 Greek (Dodecad) 19.57
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.73
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.13
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.43
13 French (Dodecad) 20.99
14 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.04
15 French (HGDP) 21.13
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 22.65
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 24.4
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 24.66
19 English (Dodecad) 24.82
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 0.95
2 66.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 33.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.23
3 66.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 33.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.23
4 68.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.32
5 66.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 33.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.41
6 79.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.9% British (Dodecad) @ 1.43
7 78.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.46
8 79.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.3% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.5
9 79.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.2% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.53
10 79.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.53
11 77.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.57
12 77.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.1% English (Dodecad) @ 1.6
13 68.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.62
14 79.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.2% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.63
15 64.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.63
16 72.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.63
17 77.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.63
18 74.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.71
19 73.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.72
20 78.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.74

Typical Montenegrin results.

You shoul open separate thread about this Montenegrin Sandžakian Muslim.

[Ford]

Just one more thing: one of my dna relative's oldest ancestor was a hajduk from around Skadar and her coordinates are 492;253. There is a song about him:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfdM9w5h-BE

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Montenegrin from capital city Podgorica


1 North_Sea 18.28
2 Baltic 17.49
3 West_Med 15.86
4 Atlantic 13.57
5 East_Med 12.69
6 Eastern_Euro 12.43
7 West_Asian 5.61
8 Red_Sea 3.12
9 Northeast_African 0.96

Single Population Sharing:

1 Serbian 5.96
2 Romanian 7.15
3 Moldavian 8.23
4 Bulgarian 8.72
5 Croatian 9.96
6 Hungarian 10.02
7 Austrian 11.75
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.48
9 East_German 14.11
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.03
11 Greek 15.41
12 Ukrainian 15.75
13 North_Italian 15.76
14 South_Polish 15.95
15 Tuscan 16.68
16 Spanish_Galicia 17.48
17 French 17.49
18 West_German 18.26
19 Portuguese 18.29
20 Polish 18.44

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Serb with surname Momčilović, possibly from Croatia

1 North_Sea 20.77
2 Baltic 19.05
3 West_Asian 15.69
4 Atlantic 12.98
5 Eastern_Euro 12.06
6 East_Med 10.13
7 West_Med 9.25
8 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

1 Moldavian 7.94
2 Romanian 8.53
3 Serbian 8.99
4 Hungarian 10.11
5 Croatian 10.45
6 Bulgarian 10.98
7 Austrian 12.3
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14
9 East_German 14.26
10 South_Polish 14.74
11 Ukrainian 15.15
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.26
14 Polish 17.74
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.09
16 Southwest_Russian 18.16
17 West_German 18.73
18 Greek 18.97
19 South_Dutch 19.54
20 Southwest_Finnish 20.02

[Pribislav]

Serb with surname Momčilović, possibly from Croatia

1 North_Sea 20.77
2 Baltic 19.05
3 West_Asian 15.69
4 Atlantic 12.98
5 Eastern_Euro 12.06
6 East_Med 10.13
7 West_Med 9.25
8 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

1 Moldavian 7.94
2 Romanian 8.53
3 Serbian 8.99
4 Hungarian 10.11
5 Croatian 10.45
6 Bulgarian 10.98
7 Austrian 12.3
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14
9 East_German 14.26
10 South_Polish 14.74
11 Ukrainian 15.15
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.26
14 Polish 17.74
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.09
16 Southwest_Russian 18.16
17 West_German 18.73
18 Greek 18.97
19 South_Dutch 19.54
20 Southwest_Finnish 20.02

Jana's Serbian ancestor was Momčilović from Lika.
Momčilovići from Lika and Kordun are R1a-M458.

Do you have K13 and K12 dodecad?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Jana's Serbian ancestor was Momčilović from Lika.
Momčilovići from Lika and Kordun are R1a-M458.

Do you have K13 and K12 dodecad?

Yeah, I know. Cumansky gave me this guy K15 for PCA, you should ask him about kit number.

[Pribislav]

Yeah, I know. Cumansky gave me this guy K15 for PCA, you should ask him about kit number.

Could you put here or sent to me in pm.

That guy is by paternal line probably from Lika or Kordun.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Could you put here or sent to me in pm.

That guy is by paternal line probably from Lika or Kordun.

Here you go bro : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278404-Eastern-and-Central-Euro-K15-PCA&p=5807756&viewfull=1#post5807756

Best if you contact him, dude looks to have ton of Eastern European kits from all over.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

another Serb I match on gedmatch, looks like high quality sample (very tight fit with Serb reference pop)

Admix Results (sorted):

1 North_Atlantic 26.51
2 Baltic 25.98
3 West_Med 16.38
4 East_Med 15.98
5 West_Asian 10.69
6 Siberian 1.11
7 Amerindian 0.92
8 South_Asian 0.77
9 Northeast_African 0.71
10 Red_Sea 0.58
11 Oceanian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

1 Serbian 2.94
2 Romanian 3.45
3 Bulgarian 6.22
4 Moldavian 8.67
5 Hungarian 9.76
6 Croatian 11.04
7 Austrian 12.51
8 East_German 14.33
9 Greek_Thessaly 14.33
10 West_German 16.5
11 North_Italian 16.55
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.58
13 French 17.69
14 Tuscan 17.79
15 South_Polish 17.93
16 South_Dutch 18.16
17 Ukrainian 18.8
18 Italian_Abruzzo 19.77
19 Portuguese 20.1
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 75.8% Romanian + 24.2% Hungarian @ 1.58
2 82.4% Romanian + 17.6% East_German @ 1.64
3 89% Romanian + 11% North_Swedish @ 1.65
4 70.4% Bulgarian + 29.6% East_German @ 1.76
5 80.3% Bulgarian + 19.7% North_Swedish @ 1.76
6 80.4% Bulgarian + 19.6% Swedish @ 1.77
7 80.7% Romanian + 19.3% Austrian @ 1.78
8 89.3% Romanian + 10.7% Swedish @ 1.79
9 89.6% Romanian + 10.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.79
10 67.6% Bulgarian + 32.4% Austrian @ 1.85
11 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Hungarian @ 1.87
12 90% Romanian + 10% Norwegian @ 1.95
13 88.4% Romanian + 11.6% North_German @ 2
14 89.6% Romanian + 10.4% Danish @ 2.04
15 81.4% Bulgarian + 18.6% Norwegian @ 2.06
16 91% Romanian + 9% Finnish @ 2.08
17 89.8% Romanian + 10.2% North_Dutch @ 2.09
18 86.7% Romanian + 13.3% South_Polish @ 2.1
19 78.6% Bulgarian + 21.4% North_German @ 2.13
20 91.3% Romanian + 8.7% Estonian @ 2.14

[Ford]

I posted this in another thread but this one is maybe better.

This is a Serb (I think judging from his surnames) from around Knin:

K15
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5
2 Serbian 5.1
3 Bulgarian 6.87
4 Austrian 8.39
5 Moldavian 9.93
6 Croatian 10.06
7 Hungarian 10.49
8 East_German 12.97
9 North_Italian 13.71
10 Greek 14.45
11 Greek_Thessaly 14.49
12 Tuscan 15.03
13 French 15.2
14 South_Dutch 15.74
15 Spanish_Cataluna 16.29
16 Spanish_Galicia 16.61
17 Portuguese 16.65
18 South_Polish 16.68
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.86
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.95



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.3% Romanian + 12.7% French_Basque @ 2.77
2 55.8% Bulgarian + 44.2% Austrian @ 2.91
3 64.3% Austrian + 35.7% Greek @ 2.95
4 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% North_German @ 3.02
5 71.5% Bulgarian + 28.5% South_Dutch @ 3.02
6 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Irish @ 3.05
7 79.4% Bulgarian + 20.6% West_Scottish @ 3.13
8 77.8% Bulgarian + 22.2% Southeast_English @ 3.14
9 82.8% Romanian + 17.2% Southwest_French @ 3.14
10 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Southwest_English @ 3.16
11 67.4% Bulgarian + 32.6% East_German @ 3.19
12 71.5% Austrian + 28.5% Central_Greek @ 3.23
13 67.2% Romanian + 32.8% Austrian @ 3.3
14 78.4% Bulgarian + 21.6% Danish @ 3.31
15 78.8% Bulgarian + 21.2% North_Dutch @ 3.42
16 74.7% Austrian + 25.3% South_Italian @ 3.42
17 52.9% East_German + 47.1% Greek @ 3.42
18 80.7% Bulgarian + 19.3% Orcadian @ 3.43
19 84.3% Romanian + 15.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.5
20 85.2% Romanian + 14.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.52

[CommonSense]

another Serb I match on gedmatch, looks like high quality sample (very tight fit with Serb reference pop)

Admix Results (sorted):

1 North_Atlantic 26.51
2 Baltic 25.98
3 West_Med 16.38
4 East_Med 15.98
5 West_Asian 10.69
6 Siberian 1.11
7 Amerindian 0.92
8 South_Asian 0.77
9 Northeast_African 0.71
10 Red_Sea 0.58
11 Oceanian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

1 Serbian 2.94
2 Romanian 3.45
3 Bulgarian 6.22
4 Moldavian 8.67
5 Hungarian 9.76
6 Croatian 11.04
7 Austrian 12.51
8 East_German 14.33
9 Greek_Thessaly 14.33
10 West_German 16.5
11 North_Italian 16.55
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.58
13 French 17.69
14 Tuscan 17.79
15 South_Polish 17.93
16 South_Dutch 18.16
17 Ukrainian 18.8
18 Italian_Abruzzo 19.77
19 Portuguese 20.1
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 75.8% Romanian + 24.2% Hungarian @ 1.58
2 82.4% Romanian + 17.6% East_German @ 1.64
3 89% Romanian + 11% North_Swedish @ 1.65
4 70.4% Bulgarian + 29.6% East_German @ 1.76
5 80.3% Bulgarian + 19.7% North_Swedish @ 1.76
6 80.4% Bulgarian + 19.6% Swedish @ 1.77
7 80.7% Romanian + 19.3% Austrian @ 1.78
8 89.3% Romanian + 10.7% Swedish @ 1.79
9 89.6% Romanian + 10.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.79
10 67.6% Bulgarian + 32.4% Austrian @ 1.85
11 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Hungarian @ 1.87
12 90% Romanian + 10% Norwegian @ 1.95
13 88.4% Romanian + 11.6% North_German @ 2
14 89.6% Romanian + 10.4% Danish @ 2.04
15 81.4% Bulgarian + 18.6% Norwegian @ 2.06
16 91% Romanian + 9% Finnish @ 2.08
17 89.8% Romanian + 10.2% North_Dutch @ 2.09
18 86.7% Romanian + 13.3% South_Polish @ 2.1
19 78.6% Bulgarian + 21.4% North_German @ 2.13
20 91.3% Romanian + 8.7% Estonian @ 2.14

Higher NA over Baltic is different from the norm, but yes these are fairly standard results. If you posted his k15 I could add him to the PCA

[CommonSense]

I posted this in another thread but this one is maybe better.

This is a Serb (I think judging from his surnames) from around Knin:

K15
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5
2 Serbian 5.1
3 Bulgarian 6.87
4 Austrian 8.39
5 Moldavian 9.93
6 Croatian 10.06
7 Hungarian 10.49
8 East_German 12.97
9 North_Italian 13.71
10 Greek 14.45
11 Greek_Thessaly 14.49
12 Tuscan 15.03
13 French 15.2
14 South_Dutch 15.74
15 Spanish_Cataluna 16.29
16 Spanish_Galicia 16.61
17 Portuguese 16.65
18 South_Polish 16.68
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.86
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.95



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.3% Romanian + 12.7% French_Basque @ 2.77
2 55.8% Bulgarian + 44.2% Austrian @ 2.91
3 64.3% Austrian + 35.7% Greek @ 2.95
4 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% North_German @ 3.02
5 71.5% Bulgarian + 28.5% South_Dutch @ 3.02
6 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Irish @ 3.05
7 79.4% Bulgarian + 20.6% West_Scottish @ 3.13
8 77.8% Bulgarian + 22.2% Southeast_English @ 3.14
9 82.8% Romanian + 17.2% Southwest_French @ 3.14
10 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Southwest_English @ 3.16
11 67.4% Bulgarian + 32.6% East_German @ 3.19
12 71.5% Austrian + 28.5% Central_Greek @ 3.23
13 67.2% Romanian + 32.8% Austrian @ 3.3
14 78.4% Bulgarian + 21.6% Danish @ 3.31
15 78.8% Bulgarian + 21.2% North_Dutch @ 3.42
16 74.7% Austrian + 25.3% South_Italian @ 3.42
17 52.9% East_German + 47.1% Greek @ 3.42
18 80.7% Bulgarian + 19.3% Orcadian @ 3.43
19 84.3% Romanian + 15.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.5
20 85.2% Romanian + 14.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.52

You didn't copy the base values so I can't check, but this guy should plot similarly to Bosniensis.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Higher NA over Baltic is different from the norm, but yes these are fairly standard results. If you posted his k15 I could add him to the PCA

I was curious, so did it myself. Looks like he plots fairly similar like dude from northern Romania Carpatz

http://oi68.tinypic.com/1ovqky.jpg

Population

North_Sea 20.25 Pct
Atlantic 14.48 Pct
Baltic 15.45 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.30 Pct
West_Med 12.16 Pct
West_Asian 9.83 Pct
East_Med 13.78 Pct
Red_Sea 0.43 Pct
South_Asian 0.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.34 Pct
Amerindian 0.67 Pct
Oceanian 0.28 Pct
Northeast_African 0.53 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I think Jewish would make most sense, since they have a lot of east med + some west asian. A half Serbian, half Jewish person would plot more or less where she does.

She doesn't score inflated Red Sea, so this must be Vlach ancestry. We were just discussing that in Eastern Euro PCA thread, all south shifted Ukrainians and Poles has sort of Vlach input rather than Jewish.

[Tschaikisten]

I was curious, so did it myself. Looks like he plots fairly similar like dude from northern Romania Carpatz

http://oi68.tinypic.com/1ovqky.jpg



This guy lmao? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIks9QQ_Khg

[CommonSense]

She doesn't score inflated Red Sea, so this must be Vlach ancestry. We were just discussing that in Eastern Euro PCA thread, all south shifted Ukrainians and Poles has sort of Vlach input rather than Jewish.

Tschaikisten messaged me about that women. Apparently, one guy from the poreklo.rs forum posted her results a while ago over there - it was his grandmother. She is from somewhere in Bačka, Vojvodina and even scored some South Asian on her MyOrigins. Her matches mostly weren't even our people, but generally various Eastern Europeans, mostly of Jewish background. That guy posted her gedmatch results too, but he did it via screenshots whose links are now expired so I can't confirm its 100% her that you posted, but Tsch. remembers her results were very similar.
Either way, someone having a Serbian name and surname on gedmatch doesn't mean they aren't mixed. If you didn't know Ayetooey was half Anglo, you'd think he's some NW shifted extreme outlier xD

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

This guy lmao? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIks9QQ_Khg

Lol could be :D Had no idea it's somebody known, just wanted to disclose his name in case anyone think I was posting fake results or something. Very Alpha looking.

[Pribislav]

This guy lmao? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIks9QQ_Khg

Does Aleksandar Bilanović originated from Duvno area (Mandino Selo or Rašćani)?

[Ford]

You didn't copy the base values so I can't check, but this guy should plot similarly to Bosniensis.

Oops, sorry, didn't notice.

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 20.54
2 North_Sea 16.24
3 Baltic 15.82
4 West_Med 12.83
5 East_Med 11.14
6 West_Asian 10.59
7 Eastern_Euro 10.11
8 Red_Sea 1.23
9 Siberian 0.93
10 Oceanian 0.56
11 Northeast_African 0.01

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Tschaikisten messaged me about that women. Apparently, one guy from the poreklo.rs forum posted her results a while ago over there - it was his grandmother. She is from somewhere in Bačka, Vojvodina and even scored some South Asian on her MyOrigins. Her matches mostly weren't even our people, but generally various Eastern Europeans, mostly of Jewish background. That guy posted her gedmatch results too, but he did it via screenshots whose links are now expired so I can't confirm its 100% her that you posted, but Tsch. remembers her results were very similar.
Either way, someone having a Serbian name and surname on gedmatch doesn't mean they aren't mixed. If you didn't know Ayetooey was half Anglo, you'd think he's some NW shifted extreme outlier xD

Yeah, I know. I have really small amount of South Slav matches on gedmatch, and when I ran many of them with local names they came out English or Dutch. This is probably new world diaspora that's already mixed.
That being said I have more Serbian than Croat or Slovene matches because it seems much more Serbs tested than other ethnics in this region. But even that's very small.

I mostly match new world Anglos and Germans. Very few Slavic matches as well.

[CommonSense]

....

[CommonSense]

Oops, sorry, didn't notice.

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 20.54
2 North_Sea 16.24
3 Baltic 15.82
4 West_Med 12.83
5 East_Med 11.14
6 West_Asian 10.59
7 Eastern_Euro 10.11
8 Red_Sea 1.23
9 Siberian 0.93
10 Oceanian 0.56
11 Northeast_African 0.01

Lol, I just added him to the PCA... I was wondering why he plots basically identical to number 5 of my matches whom I already plotted - I checked and it turns out it's the same guy! :D

His faimly tree says he was born in Knin and all his ancestors have local surnames, so, just like you, I assumed he's a Dalmatian Serb.

[Pribislav]

Lol, I just added him to the PCA... I was wondering why he plots basically identical to number 5 of my matches whom I already plotted - I checked and it turns out it's the same guy! :D

His faimly tree says he was born in Knin and all his ancestors have local surnames, so, just like you, I assumed he's a Dalmatian Serb.

He has Atlantic on the first place as another Serb from Knin whose results you sent to me in pm.

From what I have seen all Krajina Serbs except one are more western shifted than Serbian average.

[Jackson78]

This guy lmao? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIks9QQ_Khg

Is he really tested Bilanovic from 23andme lol

[Insuperable]

Tschaikisten messaged me about that women. Apparently, one guy from the poreklo.rs forum posted her results a while ago over there - it was his grandmother. She is from somewhere in Bačka, Vojvodina and even scored some South Asian on her MyOrigins. Her matches mostly weren't even our people, but generally various Eastern Europeans, mostly of Jewish background. That guy posted her gedmatch results too, but he did it via screenshots whose links are now expired so I can't confirm its 100% her that you posted, but Tsch. remembers her results were very similar.
Either way, someone having a Serbian name and surname on gedmatch doesn't mean they aren't mixed. If you didn't know Ayetooey was half Anglo, you'd think he's some NW shifted extreme outlier xD

She definitely isn't fully Serb. But I am interested does she score Ashkenazi on 23andme or whatever company she did dna test?

[Pribislav]

Is he really tested Bilanovic from 23andme lol

Max Soldo Croatian user from Livno say that he has a match with some Serb Bilanović.

[Jackson78]

It's been a long time since i posted my Eurogenes k15 results on this forum:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.39
2 North_Sea 20.36
3 Atlantic 12.85
4 West_Med 12.75
5 Eastern_Euro 11.9
6 West_Asian 10.73
7 East_Med 7.27
8 Southeast_Asian 0.9
9 Red_Sea 0.75
10 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.61
2 Croatian 6.82
3 Hungarian 7.57
4 Serbian 9.07
5 Romanian 9.61
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.02
7 Austrian 11
8 Ukrainian 11.19
9 South_Polish 11.3
10 Bulgarian 11.9
11 East_German 12.01
12 Polish 14.43
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.86
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.11
15 Southwest_Russian 15.62
16 Belorussian 17.18
17 Estonian_Polish 17.41
18 Finnish 18.18
19 Southwest_Finnish 18.23
20 West_German 18.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.6% Moldavian + 2.4% Abhkasian @ 4.45
2 97.4% Moldavian + 2.6% Georgian @ 4.45
3 94% Moldavian + 6% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.47
4 97.3% Moldavian + 2.7% North_Ossetian @ 4.47
5 97.5% Moldavian + 2.5% Ossetian @ 4.49
6 94.5% Moldavian + 5.5% West_German @ 4.49
7 89.3% Moldavian + 10.7% Romanian @ 4.5
8 97.7% Moldavian + 2.3% Sardinian @ 4.5
9 95.5% Moldavian + 4.5% North_Italian @ 4.5
10 97.6% Moldavian + 2.4% Balkar @ 4.51
11 97.7% Moldavian + 2.3% Adygei @ 4.52
12 96.1% Moldavian + 3.9% Tuscan @ 4.52
13 95.6% Moldavian + 4.4% French @ 4.52
14 96.1% Moldavian + 3.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.52
15 92.7% Moldavian + 7.3% Bulgarian @ 4.53
16 96.7% Moldavian + 3.3% Central_Greek @ 4.53
17 97.8% Moldavian + 2.2% Kabardin @ 4.53
18 97.9% Moldavian + 2.1% Chechen @ 4.54
19 97.2% Moldavian + 2.8% South_Italian @ 4.54
20 96.8% Moldavian + 3.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.55

[Ford]

This guy lmao? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIks9QQ_Khg

lol strange coincidence but I'm afraid it's not the same person, I match with the guy Nato posted on 23andme.

[Mingle]

I think this guy is from southeast Serbia. His surname is Ljubenovic which peaks in SE Serbia (his first name is Ivan if it means anything).

https://i.imgur.com/UgWMQnR.png

https://forebears.io/surnames/ljubenovi%C4%87


Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.19
2 North_Atlantic 22.22
3 West_Med 19.89
4 East_Med 17.8
5 West_Asian 8.06
6 Siberian 2.59
7 Red_Sea 1.43
8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
9 East_Asian 0.27
10 South_Asian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.26
2 Bulgarian 5.64
3 Serbian 6.4
4 Moldavian 10.06
5 Croatian 12.74
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
7 Hungarian 13.48
8 Austrian 16.48
9 North_Italian 17.01
10 Tuscan 17.6
11 East_German 17.87
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.94
13 Italian_Abruzzo 19.76
14 South_Polish 19.83
15 Ukrainian 19.96
16 Central_Greek 20
17 West_Sicilian 20.5
18 West_German 20.95
19 French 21.03
20 East_Sicilian 21.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% Ukrainian @ 3.73
2 54.9% Ukrainian + 45.1% South_Italian @ 4.04
3 70.9% Greek_Thessaly + 29.1% Estonian @ 4.12
4 50.3% Croatian + 49.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.13
5 50.7% Ukrainian + 49.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.16
6 60.2% Greek_Thessaly + 39.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.17
7 67.3% Greek_Thessaly + 32.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.19
8 57.2% Moldavian + 42.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.24
9 89.1% Bulgarian + 10.9% East_Finnish @ 4.26
10 61.7% Tuscan + 38.3% Erzya @ 4.27
11 68.4% Greek_Thessaly + 31.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.27
12 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% South_Polish @ 4.28
13 59.5% Ukrainian + 40.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.3
14 70.5% Croatian + 29.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.3
15 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Ukrainian @ 4.31
16 71.4% Greek_Thessaly + 28.6% East_Finnish @ 4.31
17 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.33
18 75.9% Moldavian + 24.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.33
19 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Polish @ 4.34
20 77.1% Bulgarian + 22.9% Croatian @ 4.38

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 18.91
2 Baltic 16.86
3 West_Med 15.52
4 East_Med 14.06
5 Atlantic 11.65
6 Eastern_Euro 11.18
7 West_Asian 8.16
8 Siberian 1.92
9 Red_Sea 1.74

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.41
2 Serbian 6.76
3 Bulgarian 7.9
4 Moldavian 9.01
5 Hungarian 11.16
6 Croatian 11.69
7 Greek_Thessaly 11.71
8 Austrian 13.43
9 Greek 14.29
10 East_German 15.63
11 North_Italian 16.1
12 Tuscan 16.18
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.31
14 Ukrainian 17.15
15 South_Polish 17.49
16 Ashkenazi 18.36
17 Italian_Abruzzo 18.41
18 French 18.48
19 West_German 18.7
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60% Greek_Thessaly + 40% Ukrainian @ 3.44
2 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.86
3 57.6% Moldavian + 42.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.91
4 68.6% Greek_Thessaly + 31.4% Estonian @ 3.96
5 67.3% Greek_Thessaly + 32.7% East_Finnish @ 4.04
6 60.8% Greek_Thessaly + 39.2% South_Polish @ 4.17
7 66.6% Greek_Thessaly + 33.4% Finnish @ 4.18
8 64.6% Greek_Thessaly + 35.4% Polish @ 4.37
9 51.4% Hungarian + 48.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.4
10 67.8% Greek_Thessaly + 32.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.59
11 50% Greek_Thessaly + 50% Croatian @ 4.64
12 52.4% Ukrainian + 47.6% Central_Greek @ 4.69
13 56.9% Ukrainian + 43.1% South_Italian @ 4.76
14 76.8% Moldavian + 23.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.77
15 66.9% Greek_Thessaly + 33.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.85
16 53.6% Ukrainian + 46.4% East_Sicilian @ 4.87
17 74.1% Moldavian + 25.9% South_Italian @ 4.87
18 68% Greek_Thessaly + 32% Estonian_Polish @ 4.93
19 70.6% Moldavian + 29.4% Central_Greek @ 4.94
20 78% Moldavian + 22% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.95

MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 30.4
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 30.24
3 European_Early_Farmers 25.17
4 South_Central_Asian 4.36
5 North_African 3.38
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.32
7 Melano_Polynesian 1.46
8 South_East_Asian 0.97
9 East_Siberian 0.53
10 Paleo_Siberian 0.43
11 Tungus-Altaic 0.33
12 Near_East 0.28
13 Khoisan 0.12
14 African_Pygmy 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_North ( ) 5.43
2 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.71
3 Austrian ( ) 9.13
4 Slovenian ( ) 9.36
5 Hungarian ( ) 9.56
6 Montenegrian ( ) 9.93
7 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10.21
8 German-Volga ( ) 10.26
9 Serb_BH ( ) 11.08
10 Croat ( ) 11.12
11 Italian_Tuscan ( ) 11.17
12 South_German ( ) 11.29
13 Bulgarian ( ) 11.54
14 Italian_Piedmont ( ) 11.54
15 Bosnian ( ) 11.83
16 Greek_Northwest ( ) 11.91
17 Czech ( ) 12.15
18 Sicilian_West ( ) 12.35
19 Kosovar ( ) 12.38
20 Macedonian ( ) 12.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.8% Italian_North ( ) + 38.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 3.32
2 83% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 17% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) @ 3.32
3 81.1% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 18.9% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) @ 3.35
4 82.5% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 17.5% Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) @ 3.37
5 75.7% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 24.3% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 3.43
6 79.8% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 20.2% Spaniard ( ) @ 3.44
7 86.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 13.8% French_South ( ) @ 3.44
8 84.6% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 15.4% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 3.48
9 84% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 16% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 3.48
10 84.7% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 15.3% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 3.48
11 82.1% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 17.9% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) @ 3.5
12 66% Bulgarian ( ) + 34% French ( ) @ 3.5
13 81.8% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 18.2% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) @ 3.53
14 89.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 10.8% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 3.54
15 78.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 21.8% Portugese ( ) @ 3.56
16 90.8% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 9.2% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 3.56
17 91.1% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 8.9% Basque_French ( ) @ 3.56
18 71.9% Italian_North ( ) + 28.1% Serb_BH ( ) @ 3.58
19 73.4% Italian_North ( ) + 26.6% Bosnian ( ) @ 3.58
20 72.1% Italian_North ( ) + 27.9% Croat ( ) @ 3.59

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 34.74
2 Atlantic_Med 26.29
3 Caucasus 23.35
4 Southwest_Asian 8.84
5 Gedrosia 4.34
6 Siberian 1.34
7 East_Asian 0.46
8 Sub_Saharan 0.4
9 Northwest_African 0.14
10 South_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 6.03
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.04
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.76
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.63
5 Hungarians (Behar) 15.13
6 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.59
7 Greek (Dodecad) 18.42
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.04
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.44
10 German (Dodecad) 19.77
11 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.79
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.53
13 French (Dodecad) 22.51
14 French (HGDP) 22.67
15 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.98
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 24.52
17 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.7
18 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.73
19 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 24.83
20 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 24.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 32.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.57
2 62.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.83
3 62.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.04
4 70.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.04
5 64.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35.4% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.04
6 63.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.04
7 62.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.09
8 54.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 45.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.09
9 71.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 28.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.19
10 64% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 36% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.2
11 55.6% Swedish (Dodecad) + 44.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.22
12 69.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.4% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.3
13 66.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 33.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.35
14 69.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.37
15 62.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 37.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.41
16 68.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.44
17 70.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.44
18 75.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.1% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.48
19 68.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.2% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.49
20 68.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 31.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.52

Eurogenes K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.52 Pct
Armenian 1.49 Pct
Basque 0.29 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.39 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.80 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.05 Pct
East_Med 6.66 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.94 Pct
Fennoscandian 6.40 Pct
French 2.82 Pct
Iberian 13.73 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 18.14 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.74 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 1.00 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.13 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.27 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.15 Pct
West_Med 2.49 Pct

https://i.imgur.com/XExmvI3.png

[Ford]

Lol, I just added him to the PCA... I was wondering why he plots basically identical to number 5 of my matches whom I already plotted - I checked and it turns out it's the same guy! :D

His faimly tree says he was born in Knin and all his ancestors have local surnames, so, just like you, I assumed he's a Dalmatian Serb.

haha small world, makes me wonder if I match with anyone on here without knowing it ;)

[Ayetooey]

haha small world, makes me wonder if I match with anyone on here without knowing it ;)

What's your gedmatch? I match with a fair few people from here including Commonsense lol.

[Ayetooey]

Largest segment = 6.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 6.8 cM (0.190 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.5

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

[Ford]

Largest segment = 6.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 6.8 cM (0.190 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.5

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

Sup cuz

[Dick]

I found this guy that has Atlantic first. Ydna I-S17250.

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 20.79
2 East_Med 16.78
3 Baltic 16.27
4 North_Sea 14.63
5 West_Med 13.79
6 Eastern_Euro 12.61
7 West_Asian 4.59
8 Red_Sea 0.52

https://i.imgur.com/TNH7QMr.png

[Max Soldo]

Is he really tested Bilanovic from 23andme lol

The Aleksandar Bilanovic on 23andMe is from Duvno but lives in Serbia. That guy in the vid is not him as this Aleks is much, much younger. He and I have communicated as we're distantly, distantly related on that site.

[Max Soldo]

It's been a long time since i posted my Eurogenes k15 results on this forum:

Odakle si?

[Tschaikisten]

Odakle si?

Po ocu je iz Leskovca, po ujčevini Rom iz Šapca.

[Jackson78]

Po ocu je iz Leskovca, po ujčevini Rom iz Šapca.

:1127:


Odakle si?

Paternal grandfather is from Čačak, maternal grandmother is from Smederevo.

Maternal grandfather is from Prnjavor in Bosnia, while maternal grandmother is from mixed Šumadija-Banija Serb marriage.

[CommonSense]

Bosniaks with full ancestry from Bosnia:

https://i.imgur.com/ejZLtHN.png