Classify two Pakistani MMA fighters

[lameduck]

1) Shah Nawaz , from legendary Hunza Valley

in middle

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2) Furqan Cheema, Punjabi jatt

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[Tooting Carmen]

They both look Armenian to me, and btw they don't look that built for MMA fighters.

[lameduck]

They both look Armenian to me, and btw they don't look that built for MMA fighters.

second is Brit Paki from Bradford

[Thambi]

Irano Afghan + East med
Alpinized Nord Indid + Gracile Indid.

[lameduck]

added more photos of 1.

[lameduck]

Irano Afghan + East med
Alpinized Nord Indid + Gracile Indid.

added more photos of 1st , where do you think , he can pass

[tipirneni]

First one Irani Afghan influence present little bit in many parts of South Asia. He can't pass in India/Bangladesh since he has extra Sintasta
Second one has Jat Steppe kind of mix, may pass in North India some cities in South

[lameduck]

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[Thambi]

added more photos of 1st , where do you think , he can pass

first one can pass all over west asia from afghanistan to turkey. He could atypically fit in the balkan region and north africa as well.

[PakDude]

Irano-Afghan for the first and Nord-Indid for the second.

[Borealis]

They both look Armenian to me, and btw they don't look that built for MMA fighters.

And people still deny Pakis often look west asian

[JMack]

And people still deny Pakis often look west asian

Pakis deny it because they don't want to be seem as wannabes by Arabs and other MENAs like Armenians or Turks.

MENAs deny it because they think associating with lighter South Asians would instantly associate them with these guys:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e27c2086aa8b2bbc2c9f03ded5fe73fa.webp

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/405468021_0dcdb54abc.jpg

[Borealis]

Pakis deny it because they don't want to be seem as wannabes by Arabs and other MENAs like Armenians or Turks.

MENAs deny it because they think associating with lighter South Asians would instantly associate them with these guys:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e27c2086aa8b2bbc2c9f03ded5fe73fa.webp

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/405468021_0dcdb54abc.jpg

And of course Indians deny it because of their even more intense inferiority complex.

[JMack]

And of course Indians deny it because of their even more intense inferiority complex.

Yeah, but ''Indians'' are fake, they are no ethnicity. People from Northeast India look more similar to East Asians than to Jalus and North Indians like Punjabis and Kashmiris look like most Pakis.

Indians have big insecurity problems due to being a fake ethnicity.

[Borealis]

Yeah, but ''Indians'' are fake, they are no ethnicity. People from Northeast India look more similar to East Asians than to Jalus and North Indians like Punjabis and Kashmiris look like most Pakis.

Indians have big insecurity problems due to being a fake ethnicity.

Agreed.

[Oghuz]

Irano Afghan, Alpine ....1
Nord indid .... 2

[lameduck]

Pakis deny it because they don't want to be seem as wannabes by Arabs and other MENAs like Armenians or Turks.

MENAs deny it because they think associating with lighter South Asians would instantly associate them with these guys:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e27c2086aa8b2bbc2c9f03ded5fe73fa.webp

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/405468021_0dcdb54abc.jpg

i disagree , i am Pakistani and I am also familiar with diversity of West Asians

West Asians differ from Pakistanis in all three major components

1) Pigmentation and Undertones
2) Features are way more Mediterranean and Caucasus influenced
3) West Asians dont have dark types that are quite prevalent in Pakistan

[JMack]

i disagree , i am Pakistani and I am also familiar with diversity of West Asians

West Asians differ from Pakistanis in all three major components

1) Pigmentation and Undertones
2) Features are way more Mediterranean and Caucasus influenced
3) West Asians dont have dark types that are quite prevalent in Pakistan

I dind't said most Pakis look West Asian, just that there is overlap what is quite obvious to anyone with eyes.

[penask]

Pass in Middle East