Ottoman Turk on GEDmatch

[Peterski]

MA2196 Ottoman Turkish, 1400-1600 AD (near Kaman, Kırşehir Province, Central Anatolia):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaman,_K%C4%B1r%C5%9Fehir

This is the less Mongoloid of the two samples (the other one was on GEDmatch already before):

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#10/39.2748/33.9837

Kit number on GEDmatch Genesis - FT2357004

Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 21.44
2 East_Med 18.69
3 Siberian 15.45
4 Atlantic 8.19
5 Eastern_Euro 7.86
6 South_Asian 6.56
7 Southeast_Asian 5.95
8 West_Med 5.36
9 Baltic 3.75
10 North_Sea 3.06
11 Red_Sea 1.82
12 Northeast_African 1.71
13 Amerindian 0.1
14 Oceanian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 13.37
2 Nogay 13.93
3 Afghan_Turkmen 15.73
4 Afghan_Uzbeki 17.65
5 Afghan_Tadjik 18.02
6 Turkish 18.49
7 Uzbeki 19.11
8 Tadjik 19.11
9 Azeri 19.81
10 Afghan_Hazara 20.13
11 Kumyk 23.54
12 Ashkenazi 23.76
13 Hazara 24.12
14 Iranian 24.4
15 Kurdish 24.45
16 Central_Greek 24.95
17 Uygur 25.07
18 Italian_Abruzzo 25.3
19 Greek 25.41
20 East_Sicilian 25.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.3% Afghan_Turkmen + 45.7% Turkish @ 4.48
2 69.4% Turkish + 30.6% Hakas @ 4.81
3 65.5% Afghan_Turkmen + 34.5% Cyprian @ 4.89
4 64.7% Afghan_Turkmen + 35.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.96
5 68.6% Turkish + 31.4% Shors @ 5.13
6 71.4% Turkish + 28.6% Altaian @ 5.35
7 66.1% Afghan_Turkmen + 33.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.47
8 64.5% Afghan_Turkmen + 35.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
9 65.2% Afghan_Turkmen + 34.8% Assyrian @ 5.76
10 65.3% Afghan_Turkmen + 34.7% Syrian @ 5.95
11 75% Turkish + 25% Tuvinian @ 6.03
12 66.7% Afghan_Turkmen + 33.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.06
13 50.9% Turkish + 49.1% Uzbeki @ 6.13
14 63.8% Afghan_Turkmen + 36.2% South_Italian @ 6.14
15 68.1% Azeri + 31.9% Hakas @ 6.14
16 65.2% Afghan_Turkmen + 34.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.15
17 56.5% Afghan_Turkmen + 43.5% Azeri @ 6.18
18 70.1% Azeri + 29.9% Altaian @ 6.18
19 69.5% Afghan_Turkmen + 30.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.18
20 67.6% Afghan_Turkmen + 32.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.2

[Leto]

He seems to have been part European besides the West Eurasian that was already present in the Turkics.

puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 25.12
2 SW_Europe 20.45
3 NE_Europe 15.86
4 Siberia 10.84
5 SW_Asia 10.8
6 NE_Asia 10.68
7 South_Asia 4.89
8 Americas 1.1
9 East_Africa 0.18
10 Oceania 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogay 7.67
2 Turkish_Aydin 11.33
3 Kumyk 14.73
4 Balkar 15.62
5 Afghan_Uzbeki 16.03
6 Turkish 16.22
7 Turkish_Kayseri 17.36
8 Tadjik 18.91
9 Ossetian 19.94
10 Azerbaijan_Azeri 20.15
11 Romani 20.35
12 Dagestan_Azeri 20.75
13 Adygei 21.67
14 Greek_Central 22.55
15 Ashkenazy_Jew 23.19
16 Afghan_Hazara 23.3
17 Chechen 23.41
18 Italian_Sicilian 23.87
19 Sephardic_Jew 24.53
20 Syrian 24.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% Ashkenazy_Jew + 49.9% Afghan_Hazara @ 3.07
2 50.8% Greek_Central + 49.2% Afghan_Hazara @ 3.52
3 50.6% Afghan_Hazara + 49.4% Italian_Sicilian @ 3.7
4 51.3% Afghan_Hazara + 48.7% Sephardic_Jew @ 3.94
5 86.4% Nogay + 13.6% Saharawi @ 4.1
6 51.7% Afghan_Hazara + 48.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.12
7 86.3% Nogay + 13.7% Mozabite @ 4.22
8 84.9% Nogay + 15.1% Algerian @ 4.45
9 85.5% Nogay + 14.5% Moroccan @ 4.49
10 84% Nogay + 16% Tunisian @ 4.63
11 85.7% Nogay + 14.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 5.12
12 82.3% Turkish_Aydin + 17.7% Mongolian @ 5.13
13 80.6% Turkish_Aydin + 19.4% Altaian @ 5.27
14 85.3% Turkish_Aydin + 14.7% Oroqen @ 5.35
15 73.1% Turkish + 26.9% Altaian @ 5.35
16 69.4% Turkish_Aydin + 30.6% Afghan_Hazara @ 5.36
17 85.4% Turkish_Aydin + 14.6% Daur @ 5.4
18 86.1% Turkish_Aydin + 13.9% Xibo @ 5.52
19 85.4% Nogay + 14.6% Egyptian @ 5.57
20 82.3% Nogay + 17.7% Sephardic_Jew @ 5.68

[Peterski]

Eurogenes K36:

40913 SNPs used in this evaluation

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.92 Pct
Basque -
Central_African 0.28 Pct
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian 5.55 Pct
East_Balkan 2.10 Pct
East_Central_Asian 4.08 Pct
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 14.58 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 1.06 Pct
French 2.06 Pct
Iberian 4.40 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 10.68 Pct
North_African 1.36 Pct
North_Atlantic 11.95 Pct
North_Caucasian 13.96 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 13.03 Pct
South_Asian 3.20 Pct
South_Central_Asian 3.51 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.27 Pct
West_Med -

Similarity Map:

https://i.imgur.com/CjI5Dzo.png


He seems to have been part European besides the West Eurasian that was already present in the Turkics.

He scores high North Atlantic in K36, this might indicate Galatian Celtic ancestry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatians_(people)#History

[Peterski]

^^^
Halfway between modern Turks and Turkmen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUWT4UNU3HY

[War Chef]

He scores high North Atlantic in K36, this might indicate Galatian Celtic ancestry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatians_(people)#History

Most likely because of Sintashta-like ancestry in Seljuks. For whatever reason Sintashta gets high North-Atlantic:


North_Atlantic (mostly northern European)

- Sintashta: 21.5%
- Iron Age Sweden : 19.5%
- Mesolithic Sweden: 19.5%
- Iron Age England : 19%
- Afanasievo : 16.5%
- Corded Ware Denmark: 15.5%
- Corded Ware Germany (Esperstedt): 15%
- Mesolithic Hungary: 10%
- Yamna: 9%
- Mesolithic Luxembourg: 9%
- Mesolithic Spain: 8%
- Mesolithic Karelia: 7%
- Mesolithic Samara: 0%
- Nordic Bronze Age Denmark: 0%
- Corded Ware Poland: 0%
- Neolithic Europe: 0%
- Palaeolithic Siberia: 0%

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/33088-To-what-do-Eurogenes-K36-admixtures-really-correspond

If he had Galatian Celtic ancestry he would get high Central-Euro as Celts came from Bavaria/Austria.

[Peterski]

If he had Galatian Celtic ancestry he would get high Central-Euro as Celts came from Bavaria/Austria.

Nope, Central Euro is not a typically Celtic component. Hallstatt Celts from what is now Czech Republic scored low Central Euro:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276875-Hallstatt-Celt-DA111-850-700-BC-with-more-SNPs-than-before

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276388-Hallstatt-Celt-DA112-850-700-BC

Germanic people such as Poprad chieftain scored much higher of Central Euro, which is rather an Eastern Germanic component:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277329-Germanic-chieftain-from-Poprad-(Slovakia)-375-400-AD

[Kaspias]

Probably not very accurate.

See: 40913 SNPs used in this evaluation

[Peterski]

Probably not very accurate.

See: 40913 SNPs used in this evaluation

That is almost as much as 23andMe v5 chip, so not bad at all... :)

There is another Ottoman Turk with closer to 90,000 SNPs in K36, and with even more Mongoloid/Siberian results.

Modern Turks have - on average - more of Pre-Turkic Anatolian ancestry than this sample.

I guess it means that in 1400-1600 AD Turkicization of Anatolia was still in progress (and mixing between Turks and Non-Turks was still in progress).

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Some more calcs:

Ottoman Turk MA2196 in MDLP K23b:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 29.3
2 South_Central_Asian 11.92
3 Tungus-Altaic 11.84
4 European_Early_Farmers 8.51
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.78
6 Ancestral_Altaic 7.05
7 Near_East 5.63
8 East_Siberian 5.27
9 South_Indian 2.8
10 Paleo_Siberian 2.61
11 East_African 2.3
12 South_East_Asian 2.06
13 African_Pygmy 1.46
14 Subsaharian 1.18
15 Arctic 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogai ( ) 13.72
2 Moksha ( ) 14.63
3 Tatar-Kazan ( ) 14.84
4 Tatar-Lithuanian ( ) 15.05
5 Crimean_Tatar_Step ( ) 15.42
6 Tatar-Mishar ( ) 15.92
7 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 15.93
8 Russian_South ( ) 16.18
9 Mordovian ( ) 16.28
10 Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) 16.29
11 Belarusian_West ( ) 16.3
12 Belarusian-East ( ) 16.33
13 Russian-West ( ) 16.33
14 Ukrainian_East ( ) 16.37
15 Ukrainian_West ( ) 16.37
16 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 16.42
17 Don_cossack ( ) 16.46
18 Ukrainian ( ) 16.55
19 Russian_North ( ) 16.57
20 Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) 16.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.5% Turk_Istanbul ( ) + 30.5% Hakas ( ) @ 4.53
2 54.1% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 45.9% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 4.71
3 56.1% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 43.9% Greek_Macedonia ( ) @ 4.73
4 54.8% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 45.2% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 4.77
5 69.7% Turk_Istanbul ( ) + 30.3% Altaian ( ) @ 4.95
6 60% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 40% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 5.01
7 69.1% Turk ( ) + 30.9% Hakas ( ) @ 5.03
8 56.6% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 43.4% Greek ( ) @ 5.05
9 55.6% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 44.4% Azov_Greek ( ) @ 5.06
10 74.7% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 25.3% Hakas ( ) @ 5.12
11 58.5% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 41.5% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 5.13
12 56.9% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 43.1% Greek_Phokaia ( ) @ 5.24
13 60.5% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 39.5% Cypriot ( ) @ 5.31
14 67.8% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 32.2% Hakas ( ) @ 5.33
15 58.1% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 41.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 5.33
16 56.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 43.8% Uzbek ( ) @ 5.35
17 57.7% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 42.3% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 5.35
18 52.8% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 47.2% Gagauz ( ) @ 5.36
19 55.5% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 44.5% Uzbek ( ) @ 5.4
20 51.5% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) + 48.5% Turk_Istanbul ( ) @ 5.48

Ottoman Turk MA2196 in puntDNAL K12 Modern:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 33.87
2 Anatolian_NF 20.83
3 Siberian 17.53
4 European_HG 11.58
5 Near_East 6.9
6 East_Asian 4.08
7 Sub-Saharan 2.77
8 South_Asian 2.14
9 South_African_HG 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogai 12.67
2 Uzbek 15.21
3 Turkish_Aydin 15.37
4 Turkish 16.76
5 Turkmen 16.77
6 Balkar 19.64
7 Kumyk 19.94
8 Turkish_Kayseri 20.17
9 Chechen 20.36
10 Adygei 21.66
11 Kurdish 21.85
12 Iranian 23.96
13 North_Ossetian 24.05
14 Laz 25.02
15 Tajik_Pomiri 25.23
16 Lezgin 25.51
17 Assyrian 25.54
18 Turkish_Trabzon 25.65
19 Armenian 26.52
20 Georgian_Jew 26.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.6% Kumyk + 25.4% Dolgan @ 4.91
2 76.8% Kumyk + 23.2% Yakut @ 5.16
3 68.5% Laz + 31.5% Selkup @ 5.45
4 72.8% Kurdish + 27.2% Dolgan @ 5.53
5 81.8% Kumyk + 18.2% Nganasan @ 5.98
6 78.4% Turkish + 21.6% Dolgan @ 6.03
7 68.1% Turkish_Trabzon + 31.9% Selkup @ 6.13
8 75.2% Kurdish + 24.8% Yakut @ 6.18
9 73.4% Turkish_Kayseri + 26.6% Selkup @ 6.21
10 70% Laz + 30% Dolgan @ 6.22
11 77.3% Turkish + 22.7% Selkup @ 6.25
12 80.4% Turkish + 19.6% Yakut @ 6.34
13 67.4% Armenian + 32.6% Selkup @ 6.57
14 71.9% Kurdish + 28.1% Selkup @ 6.86
15 75.4% Balkar + 24.6% Dolgan @ 6.9
16 84.9% Turkish + 15.1% Nganasan @ 6.99
17 77.6% Balkar + 22.4% Yakut @ 7.21
18 69.7% Turkish_Trabzon + 30.3% Dolgan @ 7.33
19 64.2% Laz + 35.8% Altaian @ 7.35
20 74% Kumyk + 26% Tuvinian @ 7.37

Ottoman Turk MA2196 in Dodecad K12b:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.34
2 Gedrosia 13.98
3 North_European 12.63
4 Atlantic_Med 12.36
5 East_Asian 12.12
6 Siberian 10.53
7 Northwest_African 3.8
8 Southwest_Asian 3.09
9 South_Asian 2.74
10 East_African 1.67
11 Sub_Saharan 0.75

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 15.5
2 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.38
3 Uzbeks (Behar) 19.76
4 Turks (Behar) 23.22
5 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.28
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23.45
7 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.44
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 26.83
9 Iranian (Dodecad) 27.09
10 Uygur (HGDP) 27.42
11 Kurd (Dodecad) 27.52
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 27.59
13 Hazara (HGDP) 27.63
14 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 27.9
15 Sicilian (Dodecad) 28.12
16 Greek (Dodecad) 28.15
17 Iranians (Behar) 28.17
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 28.62
19 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 28.72
20 O_Italian (Dodecad) 28.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.3% Uzbeks (Behar) + 40.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 5.7
2 58.1% Uzbeks (Behar) + 41.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 5.8
3 59.7% Uzbeks (Behar) + 40.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 5.85
4 59.1% Uzbeks (Behar) + 40.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 5.96
5 58.9% Uzbeks (Behar) + 41.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 6.17
6 60.4% Uzbeks (Behar) + 39.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.61
7 63.4% Uzbeks (Behar) + 36.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 7.03
8 50.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 49.2% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.05
9 59.7% Uzbeks (Behar) + 40.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 7.36
10 54.6% Uzbeks (Behar) + 45.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 7.41
11 50.5% Hazara (HGDP) + 49.5% Greek (Dodecad) @ 7.57
12 50% Hazara (HGDP) + 50% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 7.63
13 61.1% Uzbeks (Behar) + 38.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 7.7
14 50.5% Hazara (HGDP) + 49.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 7.8
15 50.3% Hazara (HGDP) + 49.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 8.06
16 54.7% Uzbeks (Behar) + 45.3% Turks (Behar) @ 8.31
17 50.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 49.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 8.64
18 54.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 8.77
19 50.7% Uygur (HGDP) + 49.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 8.82
20 50.5% Uygur (HGDP) + 49.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 8.93

Ottoman Turk MA2196 in Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 21.93
2 East_Med 19.64
3 Siberian 15.97
4 North_Atlantic 8.66
5 Baltic 8.59
6 West_Med 8.46
7 East_Asian 6.51
8 South_Asian 5.64
9 Red_Sea 2.58
10 Northeast_African 1.56
11 Oceanian 0.35
12 Amerindian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogay 13.23
2 Turkmen 13.84
3 Afghan_Turkmen 15.87
4 Turkish 18.37
5 Uzbeki 19.01
6 Afghan_Tadjik 19.98
7 Azeri 20.26
8 Aghan_Hazara 20.42
9 Tadjik 21.7
10 Kumyk 22.48
11 Balkar 23.97
12 Hazara 24.18
13 Kabardin 24.45
14 Uygur 24.57
15 Central_Greek 25.01
16 Iranian 25.42
17 East_Sicilian 25.43
18 Kurdish 25.65
19 Italian_Abruzzo 25.78
20 Greek_Thessaly 25.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.7% Afghan_Turkmen + 35.3% Cyprian @ 2.71
2 63.7% Afghan_Turkmen + 36.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.33
3 65.6% Afghan_Turkmen + 34.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.4
4 64.4% Afghan_Turkmen + 35.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.64
5 65.9% Afghan_Turkmen + 34.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.68
6 65.7% Afghan_Turkmen + 34.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.95
7 67.1% Turkish + 32.9% Shors @ 4
8 68% Afghan_Turkmen + 32% Samaritan @ 4.08
9 68.2% Afghan_Turkmen + 31.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.17
10 67.3% Afghan_Turkmen + 32.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.19
11 68.6% Turkish + 31.4% Hakas @ 4.21
12 65.6% Afghan_Turkmen + 34.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.28
13 63.9% Afghan_Turkmen + 36.1% Syrian @ 4.32
14 63.2% Afghan_Turkmen + 36.8% South_Italian @ 4.66
15 54% Afghan_Turkmen + 46% Turkish @ 4.9
16 67.5% Afghan_Turkmen + 32.5% Palestinian @ 4.97
17 64.8% Turkish + 35.2% Kazakh @ 5.02
18 66.3% Afghan_Turkmen + 33.7% Jordanian @ 5.03
19 70.8% Turkish + 29.2% Altaian @ 5.06
20 63% Afghan_Turkmen + 37% Ashkenazi @ 5.22

Ottoman Turk MA2196 in Harappa World:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 25.94
2 NE-Euro 16.18
3 Baloch 13.66
4 NE-Asian 11.73
5 Siberian 9.32
6 Mediterranean 9.17
7 SW-Asian 6.51
8 Beringian 2.33
9 S-Indian 2.15
10 W-African 1.57
11 E-African 1.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 nogai (yunusbayev) 12.81
2 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 14.7
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.8
4 uzbek (behar) 16.31
5 tajik (yunusbayev) 19.94
6 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 20.87
7 stalskoe (xing) 21.81
8 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 22.1
9 turkish (harappa) 22.26
10 turk (behar) 22.67
11 azeri (harappa) 23.2
12 ashkenazi (harappa) 23.27
13 romanian-b (behar) 23.37
14 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 23.39
15 uyghur (hgdp) 23.53
16 kumyk (yunusbayev) 23.86
17 hazara (hgdp) 24.59
18 iranian (harappa) 24.6
19 kurd (harappa) 25.17
20 iranian (behar) 25.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 47.2% uzbek (behar) @ 4.2
2 59.3% uzbek (behar) + 40.7% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 4.53
3 59.5% uzbek (behar) + 40.5% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 4.61
4 62.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 37.6% uyghur (hgdp) @ 4.79
5 63.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 36.3% hazara (hgdp) @ 5.39
6 82.2% nogai (yunusbayev) + 17.8% saharawi (henn2012) @ 5.86
7 63.4% uzbek (behar) + 36.6% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 5.87
8 82% nogai (yunusbayev) + 18% mozabite (hgdp) @ 5.9
9 69.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 30.8% kazakh (harappa) @ 5.95
10 81% nogai (yunusbayev) + 19% algeria (henn2012) @ 5.97
11 66.5% uzbek (behar) + 33.5% cypriot (behar) @ 6.14
12 81.2% nogai (yunusbayev) + 18.8% moroccan (behar) @ 6.17
13 51.5% ashkenazi (harappa) + 48.5% hazara (hgdp) @ 6.19
14 82.3% nogai (yunusbayev) + 17.7% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 6.31
15 57.1% uzbek (behar) + 42.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 6.64
16 83.7% nogai (yunusbayev) + 16.3% tunisia (henn2012) @ 6.65
17 72.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 27.8% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) @ 6.65
18 82.6% nogai (yunusbayev) + 17.4% morocco-s (henn2012) @ 6.76
19 64.8% uzbek (behar) + 35.2% morocco-jew (behar) @ 6.79
20 51.4% ashkenazy-jew (behar) + 48.6% hazara (hgdp) @ 6.79

Ottoman Turk in Eurogenes JTest (was not part Jewish - scores 0% Ashkenazi in JTest):

Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 2.46 Pct
EAST_EURO 2.72 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.11 Pct
ATLANTIC 5.25 Pct
WEST_MED 2.53 Pct
ASHKENAZI -
EAST_MED 24.16 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 18.92 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.36 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN 4.03 Pct
EAST_AFRICAN 1.43 Pct
EAST_ASIAN 9.58 Pct
SIBERIAN 13.45 Pct
WEST_AFRICAN -

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 24.16
2 WEST_ASIAN 18.92
3 SIBERIAN 13.45
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.11
5 EAST_ASIAN 9.58
6 ATLANTIC 5.25
7 SOUTH_ASIAN 4.03
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.36
9 EAST_EURO 2.72
10 WEST_MED 2.53
11 SOUTH_BALTIC 2.46
12 EAST_AFRICAN 1.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 TR 20.02
2 IR 24.15
3 Kurdish 25.7
4 GR 26.32
5 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 26.69
6 Assyrian 28.24
7 Armenian 28.38
8 Mandean 29.52
9 IQ 29.73
10 Lezgin 30.22
11 Tuscan 30.41
12 RO 30.6
13 Serbian 31.03
14 North_Italian 32.97
15 GE 33.82
16 Druze 34.46
17 HU 35.45
18 AJ 35.57
19 AT 35.85
20 Samaritan 36.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.7% TR + 32.3% KZ @ 9.85
2 58.2% Assyrian + 41.8% KZ @ 10.83
3 58.2% Armenian + 41.8% KZ @ 11.63
4 63.1% IR + 36.9% KZ @ 11.85
5 61.2% Kurdish + 38.8% KZ @ 11.85
6 82.8% TR + 17.2% Chukchi @ 12.23
7 57.1% Mandean + 42.9% KZ @ 12.29
8 83.4% TR + 16.6% Koryak @ 12.38
9 52.7% Druze + 47.3% KZ @ 12.83
10 60.9% GR + 39.1% KZ @ 13.12
11 81% TR + 19% Selkup @ 13.87
12 60.7% South_Italian_&_Sicilian + 39.3% KZ @ 13.96
13 87.4% TR + 12.6% Nganassan @ 14.19
14 85.9% TR + 14.1% Japanese @ 14.29
15 86.4% TR + 13.6% KR @ 14.57
16 57.4% IQ + 42.6% KZ @ 14.69
17 79.8% IR + 20.2% Chukchi @ 14.69
18 80.5% IR + 19.5% Koryak @ 14.79
19 78.4% Kurdish + 21.6% Chukchi @ 15.01
20 79.1% Kurdish + 20.9% Koryak @ 15.14

[Marmara]

He was probably still a nomad.

[Peterski]

^^^
Why did you thumb down my post? What exactly is "controversial" about these results?

The other sample - MA2195 - scores even more more Mongoloid than this one. Check:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?244075-MEDIEVAL-OTTOMAN-TURKISH-DNA

https://i.imgur.com/Y5pGx4B.png

https://i.imgur.com/X5TQRlI.png

https://i.imgur.com/RiSHdlC.jpg

[JMack]

^^^
Why did you thumb down my post? What exactly is "controversial" about these results?

The other sample - MA2195 - scores even more more Mongoloid than this one. Check:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?244075-MEDIEVAL-OTTOMAN-TURKISH-DNA

Turks don't want to admit they are Anatolians/Greeks/Balkanites/Arabs/Armenians and not steppe conquerors.

[Peterski]

Turks don't want to admit they are Anatolians/Greeks/Balkanites/Arabs/Armenians and not steppe conquerors.

They are obviously a mixture of both groups, whether they like it or not.

But there are still some regions of Turkey which have very high Mongoloid.

[Marmara]

^^^
Why did you thumb down my post? What exactly is "controversial" about these results?

The other sample - MA2195 - scores even more more Mongoloid than this one. Check:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?244075-MEDIEVAL-OTTOMAN-TURKISH-DNA

https://i.imgur.com/Y5pGx4B.png

https://i.imgur.com/X5TQRlI.png

https://i.imgur.com/RiSHdlC.jpg

Oh, i've done it by accident, i wasn't aware. My finger must have touched it.

[Peterski]

He was probably still a nomad.

So some people in Central Anatolia still practiced nomadic lifestyle as late as the 1400s-1500s?

[Voskos]

Overlaps 50% with island Greeks. Already fully admixed with meds i guess.

[Kaspias]

Overlaps 50% with island Greeks. Already fully admixed with meds i guess.

Seems mixed with Anatolians&Levantines only 1 or 2 generation. Still mostly Turkic.

[Voskos]

Seems mixed with Anatolians&Levantines only 1 or 2 generation. Still mostly Turkic.

he could be either first/second generation or the result of progressive admixtures over the centuries between anatolians and turkomans.

[Voskos]

Modern Turk from the same region, looks quite similar but a bit more admixed with Anatolians:

1 Caucasian 32.92
2 South_Central_Asian 13.38
3 European_Early_Farmers 11.78
4 Near_East 10.05
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.76
6 Tungus-Altaic 5.68
7 South_East_Asian 4.00
8 Ancestral_Altaic 3.92
9 North_African 3.78
10 East_Siberian 2.86
11 South_Indian 1.89
12 Melano_Polynesian 1.53

[Lucas]

So some people in Central Anatolia still practiced nomadic lifestyle as late as the 1400s-1500s?

Some even in XX century, like Yoruks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C3%B6r%C3%BCks

[Karkurdu]

Turks don't want to admit they are Anatolians/Greeks/Balkanites/Arabs/Armenians and not steppe conquerors.

Here comes an another mestizo trans-animal from the ass hole of the world called Argentina, commeting on the genetics of turks. How funny.

[Karkurdu]

The sample seems to be mixed around 1/4 or 1/3. Still a lot better proxy for previous so called"Ottoman" with 40%+ Mongoloid admix.

[Voskos]

The sample seems to be mixed around 1/4 or 1/3. Still a lot better proxy for previous so called"Ottoman" with 40%+ Mongoloid admix.

mixed with what?

[Karkurdu]

mixed with what?

Mixed with the natives, most likely Central Anatolian Greeks.

[Voskos]

Mixed with the natives, most likely Central Anatolian Greeks.

would be interesting to know what language these natives spoke. this was mostly hittite territory apparently.

[Karkurdu]

would be interesting to know what language these natives spoke. this was mostly hittite territory apparently.

Hitties lived 3000 years ago. The region's genetic make up have changed a lot with migrations ever since.

[Voskos]

Hitties lived 3000 years ago. The region's genetic make up have changed a lot with migrations ever since.

well , in terms of modern ethnicities armenians, iranics and assyrians would be a good candidate.

[Karkurdu]

When you mix Central Anatolian Greek average and this sample, you get the average Turkish results:

https://scontent.fbtz1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51813413_246767336207626_2620970429078044672_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtz1-2.fna&oh=eca1f5331f7f5cb0c69eecb7325938d0&oe=5D005C52

[Karkurdu]

Cappadocian Greek averages:

https://www.turkishdnaproject.com/kapadokya-rumlari

[lonewolfcypriot]

Very interesting

[Mejgusu]

Although the topic seems to be closed, i have to say that there were no greeks living in this city of my knowledge. Very interesting, my ancestors came exactly at this time to the same city. Unfortunately I hardly find any information about the pre-Turkish history of Kirsehir.

[21993]

Turks don't want to admit they are Anatolians/Greeks/Balkanites/Arabs/Armenians and not steppe conquerors.

There are Armenian, Arabian, Greek and Balkan minorities in Turkey but this does not mean Turks are mixture of these ethnic minorities. We are Native Anatolians with some Northeast Asian admixture. Saying that Turks are mixture of Anatolians/Greeks/Balkanites/Arabs/Armenians = Saying French are mixture of Celts/Italics/Arabians/West Africans/South Africans.

[Dobruja]

Nope, Central Euro is not a typically Celtic component. Hallstatt Celts from what is now Czech Republic scored low Central Euro:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276875-Hallstatt-Celt-DA111-850-700-BC-with-more-SNPs-than-before

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276388-Hallstatt-Celt-DA112-850-700-BC

Germanic people such as Poprad chieftain scored much higher of Central Euro, which is rather an Eastern Germanic component:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277329-Germanic-chieftain-from-Poprad-(Slovakia)-375-400-AD

''Central Euro is not a typically Celtic component'' :))

[catalyn.kingss]

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 13.37
2 Nogay 13.93
3 Afghan_Turkmen 15.73


Ottoman = Turkmen?