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Kouros
02-10-2019, 04:36 AM
Physiognomy/phrenology is the process of assessing character based on physical features. A lot of ancient cultures used to do it and it was given a lot of attention by scholars all the way up to the 1900s. Nowadays it's considered by most a pseudo-science but scientists say that the traits power, warmth and honesty can actually be inferred by outer appearance of an individual. Comparing individuals to the appearance of specific animals is also a common theme in this subject.

Mingle
02-10-2019, 04:39 AM
I used to when I was much younger, but the number of exceptions I've seen since I started somewhat paying attention to it more is wayyyy too high for me to consider it now.

Kouros
02-10-2019, 04:46 AM
https://publicdomainreview.org/collections/phrenology-diagrams-from-vaughts-practical-character-reader-1902/

Pages from Louis Allen Vaught's 'Practical Character Reader'

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oszkar07
02-10-2019, 04:46 AM
Its mostly pseudo science, but human expression and body language etc can be telling.
But I dont think physical features on their own eg facial structure etc.

Kouros
02-10-2019, 04:49 AM
https://www.jdnmirror.com/images/humanimal-psychopath-vaught.jpg
https://www.jdnmirror.com/images/deceitful-face-vaught-s-practical-character-reader-1.jpg

Kouros
02-10-2019, 04:53 AM
https://publicdomainreview.org/collections/giambattista-della-portas-de-humana-physiognomonia-libri-iiii-1586/

Pages from Giovanni Battista Della Porta's 'De humana physiognomonia libri IIII'

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Nazarene
02-10-2019, 04:53 AM
For the most part this is psuedo-science

Kouros
02-10-2019, 04:54 AM
It's basically proto-racial theory or scientific racism

Kouros
02-10-2019, 05:01 AM
https://archive.org/details/typesmankindore01pattgoog/page/n178

The stuff discussed in 'Types of mankind' is almost like a precursor to anthropology but a successor to physiognomy

https://origins.osu.edu/sites/origins.osu.edu/files/BRBIII_SLAS_facultyseminar_Until_darwin_nov42011_s lides_18_0.jpg

Smeagol
02-10-2019, 05:08 AM
To a degree.

Kouros
02-10-2019, 05:24 AM
Perceived trustworthiness is associated with position in a corporate hierarchy

https://ac.els-cdn.com/S0191886916303361/1-s2.0-S0191886916303361-main.pdf?_tid=e15f5778-a077-4aa0-a1eb-e044338dd03e&acdnat=1549779700_e9a95ece48acb587de9f97d0284bfbe4

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Perceived Intelligence Is Associated with Measured Intelligence in Men but Not Women

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0081237&type=printable

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Zroota
02-12-2019, 08:20 AM
Partially, but it has nothing to do with one particular race. In all races, there's a reason why people with 'rough' features like these....

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...are usually criminals. Lol

And there are more mugshots like these.

Borealis
02-12-2019, 08:22 AM
To an extent. You can often tell when someone is really dumb though.

Regnera
02-12-2019, 08:26 AM
Generally,Nope.

Dna8
02-12-2019, 08:48 AM
I don't subscribe to it, OP.

I do believe in physical appearance influencing the interpersonal, but that's slightly different.

Kouros
02-13-2019, 02:50 PM
https://publicdomainreview.org/collections/alphonse-bertillons-synoptic-table-of-physiognomic-traits-ca-1909/

Do Criminals share similar features? French police officer Alphonse Bertillon who invented the mugshot was the first to integrate anthropometry in forensics.

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Kouros
02-14-2019, 05:52 AM
Painter Joseph Ducreaux's portraits are influenced by his interest in physiognomy

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RenaRyuguu
10-03-2021, 09:44 PM
somewhat

Harkonnen
10-03-2021, 09:52 PM
Pictouros are fire.