Who was "Golden Horde European" DA29 from Kazakhstan?

[Peterski]

"Golden Horde European", from Kazakhstan, years 1260-1370 AD, is genetically much closer to Balts than to Slavs:

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#14/47.1390/65.6275

Karasuyr, Burial 5, Bedpakdala, Karasuyr Kazakhstan Central Steppe, Male, R1a-YP575:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP575/

DA29 GoldenHordeEuro, Geographical coordinates: 46,9972222222 66,2858333333

https://i.imgur.com/Yb5DHKO.png

^^^ His Eurogenes K13 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 55.9
2 North_Atlantic 27.04
3 West_Med 10.14
4 West_Asian 3.23
5 East_Med 2.9
6 Red_Sea 0.54
7 Amerindian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 4.2
2 Estonian_Polish 6.71
3 Belorussian 7.03
4 Russian_Smolensk 7.42
5 Estonian 8.84
6 Southwest_Russian 9.34
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.72
8 Polish 10
9 Kargopol_Russian 10.69
10 Erzya 11.55
11 Ukrainian 11.78
12 East_Finnish 12.5
13 Finnish 13.02
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.37
15 South_Polish 13.41
16 Southwest_Finnish 16.08
17 Croatian 19.31
18 La_Brana-1 21.15
19 Moldavian 22.22
20 Hungarian 23.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.5% Lithuanian + 1.5% Sardinian @ 4.09
2 99.6% Lithuanian + 0.4% Cyprian @ 4.19
3 99.6% Lithuanian + 0.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.19
4 99.5% Lithuanian + 0.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.2
5 99.7% Lithuanian + 0.3% Samaritan @ 4.2
6 99.5% Lithuanian + 0.5% Bulgarian @ 4.2
7 99.7% Lithuanian + 0.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.2
8 99.7% Lithuanian + 0.3% Ashkenazi @ 4.2
9 99.7% Lithuanian + 0.3% Central_Greek @ 4.2
10 99.8% Lithuanian + 0.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.2
11 99.8% Lithuanian + 0.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.2
12 99.8% Lithuanian + 0.2% South_Italian @ 4.2
13 99.8% Lithuanian + 0.2% Moroccan @ 4.2
14 99.8% Lithuanian + 0.2% Tunisian @ 4.2
15 98.7% Lithuanian + 1.3% Estonian_Polish @ 4.2
16 99.9% Lithuanian + 0.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.2
17 99.7% Lithuanian + 0.3% Ukrainian @ 4.2
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.2
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.2
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% West_Sicilian @ 4.2

I have some theories about his ethnicity which I've already shared with a few users, but I'm curious about your opinions.

What was a genetically Lithuanian-like person doing in the middle of Kazakhstan's Steppe in late 1200s or early 1300s?

I was told that his Y-DNA subclade - R1a-YP575 - is of Baltic (not Slavic) origin, even though it is also common among modern Belarusians etc.

See this subclade on YFull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP575/

There was supposedly a Baltic tribe called Goliadz or Goladz living in the middle of Russia, see the map below:

https://i.imgur.com/7Jw4l16.png

^^^
But how do we know that DA29 was from there, and not from Balts in more western areas at the Baltic Sea?

[Yaglakar]

https://i.imgur.com/w3H8iR0.png

[Blondie]

Golden Horde = turkic tribes + mongol leader elite

[Peterski]

Golden Horde = turkic tribes + mongol leader elite

This one was genetically 100% European though. Read the description in the image I posted.

[Voskos]

Could be from the rival army, or someone who married a local.

[Peterski]

Could be from the rival army, or someone who married a local.

But you would rather expect Slavic Europeans there. Specifically Russians.

Why a genetically Lithuanian-like person (so probably not a Slavic-speaker)?

[Voskos]

So did janissaries exist back then?

[Marmara]

A prisoner or slave

[Ülev]

tourist

[JMack]

tourist

That what I thought too. People understimate the power of ancient and medieval travel companies.

[Peterski]

A prisoner or slave

I mean what was his ethnicity.

I was thinking maybe a Prussian. Because the Prussian Crusade was in 1218-1283 AD. Maybe he was taken prisoner there and sold into slavery and ended up in what is now Kazakhstan.

[Cristiano viejo]

This one was genetically 100% European though. Read the description in the image I posted.

100% European?

[Austrvegr]

But you would rather expect Slavic Europeans there. Specifically Russians.

Why a genetically Lithuanian-like person (so probably not a Slavic-speaker)?

The Grand Duchy of Lithuania directly bordered on the Golden Horde, so some movement of people was unavoidable.

[Lucas]

I mean what was his ethnicity.

I was thinking maybe a Prussian. Because the Prussian Crusade was in 1218-1283 AD. Maybe he was taken prisoner there and sold into slavery and ended up in what is now Kazakhstan.

Teutonic Knights as Christians couldn't sell slaves I think. Do you have sources that they did?
I'm nearly sure he was from Goliadz. It was easternmost territory of Russia. Easily could be attacked by Golden Horde.

[Leto]

I'm nearly sure he was from Goliadz. It was easternmost territory of Russia. Easily could be attacked by Golden Horde.
I'm not sure they still existed as a tribe in 1260-1370. Also, I'm not sure either they were the same as modern Latvians and Lithuanians.

@Peterski, can you post his number? I'd like to try other calcs (MDLP, Dod, punt).

[Yaglakar]

That Caucasoid was no slave. He is buried alongside Mongols, with a stele. Mongols wanted to underline that he looked different and placed an anthropomorphic stele in his grave. He was probably in some way important. He is also not a warrior, because weapons were not found in his grave, unlike in graves of Mongols.

[Lucas]

That Caucasoid was no slave. He is buried alongside Mongols, with a stele. Mongols wanted to underline that he looked different and placed an anthropomorphic stele in his grave. He was probably in some way important. He is also not a warrior, because weapons were not found in his grave, unlike in graves of Mongols.

So not Prussian...

[Cumansky]

For this one what is kit #?

[Ryuk]

A respected trader or a traveler ambassador

[Cumansky]

Scytho Early Slav

[War Chef]

Just some young Lithuanian back-packer/adventurer looking for some action.

[Not a Cop]

Teutonic Knights as Christians couldn't sell slaves I think. Do you have sources that they did?
I'm nearly sure he was from Goliadz. It was easternmost territory of Russia. Easily could be attacked by Golden Horde.

Why do you think that Goliad' should be similar to other Balts genetically? I mean they most likely assimilated some local substrate.

[Lucas]

Why do you think that Goliad' should be similar to other Balts genetically? I mean they most likely assimilated some local substrate.

I think it is the opposite. Goliadz was refugium of those Balts who lived in what is now north-central Russia. When Slavs (doesn't mater from what "homeland" but certainly located on the south-west) migrated in early Medieval to the north, in Novgorod direction (probably along Dneper), they halved Balt territory. Those on the west persisted, those on the east gradually were assimilated by East-Slavic tribes.

Or there are theories that Goliadz people migrated after East Slavic expansion to central Russia???

[Karkurdu]

"Golden Horde European"

http://i67.tinypic.com/3515lwg.jpg

[Not a Cop]

I think it is the opposite. Goliadz was refugium of those Balts who lived in what is now north-central Russia. When Slavs (doesn't mater from what "homeland" but certainly located on the south-west) migrated in early Medieval to the north, in Novgorod direction (probably along Dneper), they halved Balt territory. Those on the west persisted, those on the east gradually were assimilated by East-Slavic tribes.

Or there are theories that Goliadz people migrated after East Slavic expansion to central Russia???


I haven't read much on Goliadz, but as far as i know we have a lot of skulls and eventually we will have dna sequensed i think.

It's obious fact as far as i understand that Goliadz was Baltic, however i have doubts that they would be baltic-like autosomally, most likely they have assimilated some people along the way.

[Leto]

I haven't read much on Goliadz, but as far as i know we have a lot of skulls and eventually we will have dna sequensed i think.

It's obious fact as far as i understand that Goliadz was Baltic, however i have doubts that they would be baltic-like autosomally, most likely they have assimilated some people along the way.
It's a fucking shame there are so few ancient and medieval samples from Russia. I mean come on, they even managed to extract DNA from bones in places like India or Israel and the Russian climate is much more conducive to DNA preservation.

[Cumansky]

"Golden Horde European"

http://i67.tinypic.com/3515lwg.jpg

Yooooo my Hakan, can you use your world record low IQ to answer this question..

Why I have more Turkic % than a lot of Turks? If you are so called originals?

Capitalizing off Peterski retardedness is all you good at

[Smaug]

Galindian, possibly. Still, he was very distant from his homeland.

[Ryuk]

Yooooo my Hakan, can you use your world record low IQ to answer this question..

Why I have more Turkic % than a lot of Turks? If you are so called originals?

Capitalizing off Peterski retardedness is all you good at

Are you Slav or Romania right?
If so, you can't be more "Turkic" than a Turk.

Remember,there is no special genetic marker for the Turkic component,and the best way to understand a person's Turkic origin is to look at the components of eastern Asia and Siberia.

If you share your gedmatch results, we can see it

[Peterski]

Galindian, possibly. Still, he was very distant from his homeland.

Galindians also lived in North-Eastern Poland, were they two branches of the same tribe?

[Karkurdu]

Yooooo my Hakan, can you use your world record low IQ to answer this question..

Why I have more Turkic % than a lot of Turks? If you are so called originals?

Capitalizing off Peterski retardedness is all you good at

What you are talking about you illiterate dipshit?

[Ülev]

Galindians also lived in North-Eastern Poland, were they two branches of the same tribe?

yes, the same with Greater Polish aka Wielkopolish Polanie (Polans) tribe, the same Ukrainians here and there :rolleyes:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Slavic_tribes_in_the_7th_to_9th_century.jpg
map from wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs

[Smaug]

Galindians also lived in North-Eastern Poland, were they two branches of the same tribe?

Well, Eastern Galindians (the Russian ones) were an East Baltic tribe similar to Lithuanians and Latvians, whilst Western Galindians (the Polish ones) were a West Baltic tribe similar to Prussians.

[Cumansky]

Are you Slav or Romania right?
If so, you can't be more "Turkic" than a Turk.

Remember,there is no special genetic marker for the Turkic component,and the best way to understand a person's Turkic origin is to look at the components of eastern Asia and Siberia.

If you share your gedmatch results, we can see it

Population Percentage
Southeast European 30.08%
West Asian 0.99%
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 1.23%
Northeast European 45.40%
Indian 1.01%
Northwest European 16.42%
Turkic 4.88%
Mongol 0.00%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.00%

Population Value
Czech 52.4
Germans 5.4
Cossacks_Kuban 2.6
Ukrainians_west 2.2
Croats 2
Ukrainians_east 1.8
Serbian 1.6
Swedes 1.6
Albanians 1.4
Finnish 1.4
Hungarian 1.4
Mishar_Tatars 1.4
Montenegran 1.4
Steppe_IA 1.2
Mordvins 1
Sardinian 1
Spanish 1
Spanish_N 1
Udmurds 1
Ukrainians_north 1
Bosnian 0.8
English 0.8
French 0.8
Stuttgart 0.8
Belarusians 0.6
Kryashen_Tatars 0.6
Norwegian 0.6
Orcadian 0.6
Poles 0.6
Russians_C 0.6
Russians_W 0.6
Scottish 0.6
Tatars 0.6
Turkish_Balikesir 0.6
Algerian 0.4
Basque 0.4
Chuvashes 0.4
Estonians 0.4
Italian_North 0.4
Kosovo 0.4
Latvians 0.4
Lithuanians 0.4
Loschbour 0.4
Moldavians 0.4
Yoruba 0.4
Bengali_Dhaka 0.2
Brahmin 0.2
Cossacks 0.2
Greek 0.2
Kumyks 0.2
Kyrgyz 0.2
Macedonian 0.2
Moroccan 0.2
North_Ossetians 0.2
Tajik_Ishkasim 0.2
Tajiks 0.2
Tunisian 0.2
Turkmen 0.2

Kurd Turkic K11 Calc

Turkic % is related with south Tartartian peoples, nothing to do with being raped by Mongols you can see I have 4.88% Turkic, 0% Mongol

[Leto]

Golden Horde = turkic tribes + mongol leader elite
Wikipedia says there were 1.5 - 2.0 million Mongols in 1200, so yes, they obviously couldn't have conquered much of Eurasia alone. From Korea to Hungary.

[Peterski]

The total population of the world in 1200 was much smaller than today, so 2 million in 1200 was a significant number.

[Leto]

The total population of the world in 1200 was much smaller than today, so 2 million in 1200 was a significant number.
in 1000 AD there were approximately 400 million people in the world. 269 million in Asia and 50 million in Europe. Probably in 1200 it was closer to 500 million (death rates were much higher back then).

[Blondie]

Wikipedia says there were 1.5 - 2.0 million Mongols in 1200, so yes, they obviously couldn't have conquered much of Eurasia alone. From Korea to Hungary.

Mongols didn't conquered Hungary, they came here as robber military raids but we were not a part of Mongol Empire.

[Leto]

Mongols didn't conquered Hungary, they came here as robber military raids but we were not a part of Mongol Empire.
I know, I mean their presence stretched from East Asia all the way to Central Europe. They once devasted parts of Hungary but then left and when they came back, they got their asses kicked.

[Blondie]

I know, I mean their presence stretched from East Asia all the way to Central Europe. They once devasted parts of Hungary but then left and when they came back, they got their asses kicked.

We defeated mongols here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary

[Karkurdu]

I know, I mean their presence stretched from East Asia all the way to Central Europe. They once devasted parts of Hungary but then left and when they came back, they got their asses kicked.

Cuz Magyars were fighting in Turkic style.

[Blondie]

Cuz Magyars were fighting in Turkic style.

We fighting in christian european style. Hungarian knights in 13. century:

https://torange.biz/photo/31/IMAGE/hungarian-hungary-visegrad-castle-knights-31824.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_w6sc6bnT28/TuJMLjuPSmI/AAAAAAAAA8I/wOGNL5tzUcc/s1600/P1040295.JPG

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/58/72/4458729cc52594fd067f8e8741818811.jpg

http://cdn.nwmgroups.hu/s/img/i/1604/20160411muhi-csata21.jpg

https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/26/25438/HunPolNewCards.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ujmIdKz.jpg

[Karkurdu]

We fighting in christian european style. Hungarian knights in 13. century:


:D

[Chelubey]

Remember,there is no special genetic marker for the Turkic component,and the best way to understand a person's Turkic origin is to look at the components of eastern Asia and Siberia.

If you share your gedmatch results, we can see it
In this case Chinese or Japanese are more Turkic than Uighurs?

[Leto]

In this case Chinese or Japanese are more Turkic than Uighurs?
The most Mongoloid Turkic speakers are Yakuts and Tuvans.
https://en.tuvaonline.ru/uploads/posts/2013-07/1374925964_kongar-ool.jpg
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/08/04/arts/dog-ondar-obit-1/dog-ondar-obit-1-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

[Blondie]

The most Mongoloid Turkic speakers are Yakuts and Tuvans.
https://en.tuvaonline.ru/uploads/posts/2013-07/1374925964_kongar-ool.jpg
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/08/04/arts/dog-ondar-obit-1/dog-ondar-obit-1-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

Tuvans are turkic speaker mongols:

https://caspianhorse.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/tileshop.jpg

Yakuts are turkic speaker uralics:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Haplogrupo_N_%28ADN-Y%29.PNG

[Leto]

Yakuts are turkic speaker uralics:

Lol. You gotta be kidding. The Yakuts have never lived close to the Ural mountains. They are East Siberian/Far Eastern, Turkic speakers who migrated north and absorbed local Tungusic tribes.

[Crimson Winds]

Lol. You gotta be kidding. The Yakuts have never lived close to the Ural mountains. They are East Siberian/Far Eastern, Turkic speakers who migrated north and absorbed local Tungusic tribes.

You are talking with haplotard. You should see that coming.

[Blondie]

Lol. You gotta be kidding. The Yakuts have never lived close to the Ural mountains. They are East Siberian/Far Eastern, Turkic speakers who migrated north and absorbed local Tungusic tribes.

Nope, north eurasian uralics lived very close to Far East:

http://i.imgur.com/27B5wGK.jpg

The haplogroup N is uralic marker.

[Crimson Winds]

Lol. You gotta be kidding. The Yakuts have never lived close to the Ural mountains. They are East Siberian/Far Eastern, Turkic speakers who migrated north and absorbed local Tungusic tribes.

You are talking with haplotard. You should see that coming.

[Kaspias]

Lol. You gotta be kidding. The Yakuts have never lived close to the Ural mountains. They are East Siberian/Far Eastern, Turkic speakers who migrated north and absorbed local Tungusic tribes.

She don't know anything, or simply trolling. Don't bother yourself to explain somethings to her still too young and brainwashed.

[Crimson Winds]

Lol. You gotta be kidding. The Yakuts have never lived close to the Ural mountains. They are East Siberian/Far Eastern, Turkic speakers who migrated north and absorbed local Tungusic tribes.

You are talking with haplotard. You should see that coming.

[Chelubey]

Lol. You gotta be kidding. The Yakuts have never lived close to the Ural mountains. They are East Siberian/Far Eastern, Turkic speakers who migrated north and absorbed local Tungusic tribes.

She is probably right. Yakuts use some words of supposedly Uralic origin, which are not found in other Türkic languages. Perhaps they were originally Uralic-speaking people.

[Ryuk]

She is probably right. Yakuts use some words of supposedly Uralic origin, which are not found in other Türkic languages. Perhaps they were originally Uralic-speaking people.


Nope, north eurasian uralics lived very close to Far East:

http://i.imgur.com/27B5wGK.jpg

The haplogroup N is uralic marker.

No,both altai-sayan languages and Yakuts absorbed uralic words from samoyedic branch.Remember,oldest known home of yakuts(kurykans in that time)located in west baikal and tannu tuva,very close to samoyedic languages.

Also y DNA N clade of Yakuts different from Uralic clades and splitted from Uralics at paleolithic or early mesolithic

Also kis kocos your Proto language map is a bullshit.Eskimo aleut locate more western than yukaghiric,and Proto uralic(a hunters gatherer tongue)spoken uniformly from lapland to Yenisey river,PUHAHAHAHA.

Calling yakuts to samoyeds,as ridiculous as calling chadic tribes to celts because high R1b percentage.

[Tong]

ok thats epic

[Proto-Shaman]

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[Ryuk]

In this case Chinese or Japanese are more Turkic than Uighurs?

You misunderstood me.We have no information on the genetic structure of the proto-Bulgaro-Turkic population.That's why we have to use the Turkic communities that lived later as models.The common feature of these communities is that the ENA components are high.

The most important difference between ethnic Turks in Turkey and other ethnic groups is that they carry significant ENA components

[Ryuk]

Population Percentage
Southeast European 30.08%
West Asian 0.99%
Southeast Asian 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 1.23%
Northeast European 45.40%
Indian 1.01%
Northwest European 16.42%
Turkic 4.88%
Mongol 0.00%
Papuan 0.00%
Northeast Asian 0.00%

Population Value
Czech 52.4
Germans 5.4
Cossacks_Kuban 2.6
Ukrainians_west 2.2
Croats 2
Ukrainians_east 1.8
Serbian 1.6
Swedes 1.6
Albanians 1.4
Finnish 1.4
Hungarian 1.4
Mishar_Tatars 1.4
Montenegran 1.4
Steppe_IA 1.2
Mordvins 1
Sardinian 1
Spanish 1
Spanish_N 1
Udmurds 1
Ukrainians_north 1
Bosnian 0.8
English 0.8
French 0.8
Stuttgart 0.8
Belarusians 0.6
Kryashen_Tatars 0.6
Norwegian 0.6
Orcadian 0.6
Poles 0.6
Russians_C 0.6
Russians_W 0.6
Scottish 0.6
Tatars 0.6
Turkish_Balikesir 0.6
Algerian 0.4
Basque 0.4
Chuvashes 0.4
Estonians 0.4
Italian_North 0.4
Kosovo 0.4
Latvians 0.4
Lithuanians 0.4
Loschbour 0.4
Moldavians 0.4
Yoruba 0.4
Bengali_Dhaka 0.2
Brahmin 0.2
Cossacks 0.2
Greek 0.2
Kumyks 0.2
Kyrgyz 0.2
Macedonian 0.2
Moroccan 0.2
North_Ossetians 0.2
Tajik_Ishkasim 0.2
Tajiks 0.2
Tunisian 0.2
Turkmen 0.2

Kurd Turkic K11 Calc

Turkic % is related with south Tartartian peoples, nothing to do with being raped by Mongols you can see I have 4.88% Turkic, 0% Mongol


Which community was the "Turkic" component created based on?As I said before, we don't have any genetic information from the earliest turkic groups.This gedmatch doesn't seem right to me.

I prefer the results of eurogenes K13 and K15.

[Chelubey]

No,both altai-sayan languages and Yakuts absorbed uralic words from samoyedic branch.Remember,oldest known home of yakuts(kurykans in that time)located in west baikal and tannu tuva,very close to samoyedic languages.

Also y DNA N clade of Yakuts different from Uralic clades and splitted from Uralics at paleolithic or early mesolithic


How well do you know the phylogeny of haplogroup N? The Yakut subclade is far from the Uralic one, but the problem is that the Uralic subclades are far from each other. Or I'm wrong?

[Ryuk]

How well do you know the phylogeny of haplogroup N? The Yakut subclade is far from the Uralic one, but the problem is that the Uralic subclades are far from each other. Or I'm wrong?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005449/&ved=2ahUKEwj188zJ973gAhXsoosKHaNKA3gQFjAQegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw3LM0tCtYstYTycHFE8w_dD

[Cumansky]

Which community was the "Turkic" component created based on?As I said before, we don't have any genetic information from the earliest turkic groups.This gedmatch doesn't seem right to me.

I prefer the results of eurogenes K13 and K15.

I trust Kurd calculator developer work more, I don't know what reference he used.

K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.29
2 North_Atlantic 26.57
3 West_Med 10.54
4 East_Med 10.48
5 West_Asian 2.66
6 Siberian 1.81
7 Sub-Saharan 0.75
8 Amerindian 0.69
9 South_Asian 0.62
10 Oceanian 0.36
11 Red_Sea 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 5.65
2 Southwest_Russian 5.7
3 Estonian_Polish 6.64
4 South_Polish 6.8
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.96
6 Belorussian 7.11
7 Polish 7.24
8 Russian_Smolensk 7.42
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.51
10 Croatian 10.25
11 Kargopol_Russian 10.54
12 Lithuanian 11.49
13 Estonian 11.73
14 Erzya 12.41
15 Moldavian 12.96
16 Finnish 13.08
17 East_Finnish 13.52
18 Southwest_Finnish 13.75
19 Hungarian 13.85
20 East_German 16.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.5% Estonian_Polish + 12.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.37
2 89.3% Estonian_Polish + 10.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.43
3 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.48
4 86.6% Belorussian + 13.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.49
5 88.4% Belorussian + 11.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.49
6 88.6% Belorussian + 11.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.59
7 78.6% Lithuanian + 21.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.65
8 90.2% Estonian_Polish + 9.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.69
9 89.7% Estonian_Polish + 10.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.71
10 81.4% Lithuanian + 18.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.72
11 84% Belorussian + 16% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.75
12 90.3% Estonian_Polish + 9.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.76
13 85.4% Estonian_Polish + 14.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.78
14 87.9% Estonian_Polish + 12.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.79
15 81.4% Lithuanian + 18.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.81
16 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% South_Italian @ 3.83
17 87.9% Belorussian + 12.1% South_Italian @ 3.86
18 89.5% Belorussian + 10.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.87
19 88.1% Estonian_Polish + 11.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.88
20 79.6% Belorussian + 20.4% Bulgarian @ 3.89

[Leto]

I trust Kurd calculator developer work more, I don't know what reference he used.

K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.29
2 North_Atlantic 26.57
3 West_Med 10.54
4 East_Med 10.48
5 West_Asian 2.66
6 Siberian 1.81
7 Sub-Saharan 0.75
8 Amerindian 0.69
9 South_Asian 0.62
10 Oceanian 0.36
11 Red_Sea 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 5.65
2 Southwest_Russian 5.7
3 Estonian_Polish 6.64
4 South_Polish 6.8
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.96
6 Belorussian 7.11
7 Polish 7.24
8 Russian_Smolensk 7.42
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.51
10 Croatian 10.25
11 Kargopol_Russian 10.54
12 Lithuanian 11.49
13 Estonian 11.73
14 Erzya 12.41
15 Moldavian 12.96
16 Finnish 13.08
17 East_Finnish 13.52
18 Southwest_Finnish 13.75
19 Hungarian 13.85
20 East_German 16.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.5% Estonian_Polish + 12.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.37
2 89.3% Estonian_Polish + 10.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.43
3 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.48
4 86.6% Belorussian + 13.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.49
5 88.4% Belorussian + 11.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.49
6 88.6% Belorussian + 11.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.59
7 78.6% Lithuanian + 21.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.65
8 90.2% Estonian_Polish + 9.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.69
9 89.7% Estonian_Polish + 10.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.71
10 81.4% Lithuanian + 18.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.72
11 84% Belorussian + 16% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.75
12 90.3% Estonian_Polish + 9.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.76
13 85.4% Estonian_Polish + 14.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.78
14 87.9% Estonian_Polish + 12.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.79
15 81.4% Lithuanian + 18.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.81
16 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% South_Italian @ 3.83
17 87.9% Belorussian + 12.1% South_Italian @ 3.86
18 89.5% Belorussian + 10.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.87
19 88.1% Estonian_Polish + 11.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.88
20 79.6% Belorussian + 20.4% Bulgarian @ 3.89
Oceanian and South Asian are not mongoloid at all, google Southern Indians and Australoids/Melanesians.

[Chelubey]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005449/&ved=2ahUKEwj188zJ973gAhXsoosKHaNKA3gQFjAQegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw3LM0tCtYstYTycHFE8w_dD

But as I understand it, I was right:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5005449/bin/gr1.jpg
N2a1 :
non-Uralic/Altaic :Yakut,Tuvinian,Mongolian,Evenk.
Uralic : Nenets,Mari(part),Vepsa(part),Udmurt(part),Khant.
N3a3'6:
IE: Latvian,Russian
Altaic:Mongol,Buryat,Kazakh,Turk,Tatar,Bashkir, Shor ,Khakass,Tuvinian,Altaian.
Uralic:Estonian,Karelian,Vepsa,Nanai.
Other:Chukcha,Koryak,Eskimos.
Mari and Udmurt subclades are closer to Yakut one than to Karelian, Estonian, Wepsa subclades.
Conclusion :
Despite the fact that Yakut and other non-Uralic subclades of haplogroup N are far from the Uralic one, a part of the Uralic subclades are closer to non-Uralic subclades than to other Uralic subclades.This means that the divergence of subclades of the Haplogroup N does not coincide with the divergence of the Uralic(and non-Uralic too) languages.
This also means that the Uralic origin of the Yakut subclade is not excluded.
(Tatar and Bashkir subclades have Vepsa/Karelian-like origin).