View Full Version : Is hg I overrated ?
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 09:26 AM
I mean it's cool since it's real native European haplogroup and lot of cool dudes carry it, also tallest people are I (dinaric Slavs, Scandinavians).
Looking from historical perspective they didn't make anything significant.
Farmers build first civilisations even though they were swarthy wogs, Indo-Europeans conquered almost entire known world even if they were savages.
But hunter gatherers ? Lived in caves, had no any kind of civilisation apart from disorganized small tribes.
Probably I'll get attacked by I-clan in here, but these are just my toughts. I'd still rather be I than any other marker excluding mighty R.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 12:27 PM
push
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 12:29 PM
You boldly went where no man has gone before. I will respond when I’m home from lecture.
Ind1genous vs R1ethelites - bump
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 02:27 PM
Ind1genous vs R1ethelites - bump
Let's hope Robocuck will see this thread.
I honestly don't get this fixation on haplogroups. I mean, I acknowledge their importance when it comes to geneaology but whether I would belong to I or R is pretty irrelevant to me on a personal basis. It's not like I identify as some proto-Celt from Switzerland.
Morena
02-13-2019, 02:31 PM
They were the first artists, creating realistic illustrations that inspire even to this day. In fact, they were the best artists of their era, when you compare their cave paintings to others around the world of the same time.
That's not a bad achievement.
the power of I y-dna master race here (aka White Nordids) ---> http://europasoberana.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-new-racial-classification-i.html
Morena
02-13-2019, 02:35 PM
the power of I y-dna master race here (aka White Nordids) ---> http://europasoberana.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-new-racial-classification-i.html
LMAO My father would be surprised to learn he is a white nordid.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 02:35 PM
I honestly don't get this fixation on haplogroups. I mean, I acknowledge their importance when it comes to geneaology but whether I would belong to I or R is pretty irrelevant to me on a personal basis. It's not like I identify as some proto-Celt from Switzerland.
I don't identify with my subclade that much, doesn't matter if it's Germanic or Illyrian branch but I identify with fact my forefather was steppe Indo-European conqueror.
You know why ? Because we can change autosomal by mixing but you're stuck with ydna and so will be your descendants. Blessed to be hg R brother.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 02:36 PM
They were the first artists, creating realistic illustrations that inspire even to this day. In fact, they were the best artists of their era, when you compare their cave paintings to others around the world of the same time.
That's not a bad achievement.
You have a point there.
Morena
02-13-2019, 02:41 PM
You have a point there.
Thanks. ^_^ I attribute our love of beauty and realism to their small yet significant input.
I don't identify with my subclade that much, doesn't matter if it's Germanic or Illyrian branch but I identify with fact my forefather was steppe Indo-European conqueror.
You know why ? Because we can change autosomal by mixing but you're stuck with ydna and so will be your descendants. Blessed to be hg R brother.
I just see it as so that every haplogroup has its own tale to tell and one is not necessarily more interesting than the other.
de Burgh II
02-13-2019, 02:56 PM
Haplogroups are haplogroups; nothing out of the ordinary broski. lol :p
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 04:36 PM
Bump for PrI2biVlach.
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 05:39 PM
Even though haplogroup I was the Y dna of dark hunter gatherers, most of the world was completely primitive at that time anyway. Since then I has been an integral part of many civilisations. It's written that I was a common HG in many neolithic socities, with I2c found in turkey 8000 years ago, I2a in the Starčevo–Kőrös–Criş culture, in the Printed-Cardium Pottery culture, in the Vatya culture, the netice and Urnfield cultures; I1 was found in the Funnelbeaker culture and numerous other neolithic cultures.
I1 must not be forgotten in the ethnogesis of Germanic peoples; it is the main Germanic Y dna along with clades of R1b, and it is not as simple as R1b coming from the steppe and germanising I1, it was infact a hybrid process.
"According to the Germanic substrate hypothesis, first proposed by Sigmund Feist in 1932, Proto-Germanic was a hybrid language mixing Indo-European (R1b, and to a lower extent R1a) and pre-Indo-European (Mesolithic I2 and Neolithic G2a and I1) elements. This hybridisation would have taken place during the Bronze Age and given birth to the first Proto-Germanic civilization, the Nordic Bronze Age (1700-500 BCE)."
Not to mention Nato the state of Croatia wouldn't exist without proto-Slavic I2a invaders! In terms of pre neolithic settlers however, there's no doubt that I1/I2 carries were basically savages.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 05:42 PM
Even though haplogroup I was the Y dna of dark hunter gatherers, most of the world was completely primitive at that time anyway. Since then I has been an integral part of many civilisations. It's written that I was a common HG in many neolithic socities, with I2c found in turkey 8000 years ago, I2a in the Starčevo–Kőrös–Criş culture, in the Printed-Cardium Pottery culture, in the Vatya culture, the netice and Urnfield cultures; I1 was found in the Funnelbeaker culture and numerous other neolithic cultures.
I1 must not be forgotten in the ethnogesis of Germanic peoples; it is the main Germanic Y dna along with clades of R1b, and it is not as simple as R1b coming from the steppe and germanising I1, it was infact a hybrid process.
"According to the Germanic substrate hypothesis, first proposed by Sigmund Feist in 1932, Proto-Germanic was a hybrid language mixing Indo-European (R1b, and to a lower extent R1a) and pre-Indo-European (Mesolithic I2 and Neolithic G2a and I1) elements. This hybridisation would have taken place during the Bronze Age and given birth to the first Proto-Germanic civilization, the Nordic Bronze Age (1700-500 BCE)."
Not to mention Nato the state of Croatia wouldn't exist without proto-Slavic I2a invaders! In terms of pre neolithic settlers however, there's no doubt that I1/I2 carries were basically savages.
Worthy entry SlavI2c mate.
Token
02-13-2019, 05:43 PM
This pretty much sums it up.
https://scontent.fbau1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/25073358_1587546331325933_405957811743707307_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fbau1-1.fna&oh=15e17222b661c91abb6ff55a19ec95c3&oe=5CEC338A
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 05:44 PM
Martin Luther, Miklos Horthy, Novak Đoković, James Monroe, Bill Gates, Henry Clinton, David Crockett, Chuck Norris, Elvis Presley, Rurik... are I.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 05:46 PM
This pretty much sums it up.
https://scontent.fbau1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/25073358_1587546331325933_405957811743707307_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fbau1-1.fna&oh=15e17222b661c91abb6ff55a19ec95c3&oe=5CEC338A
ahahaha xD
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 05:47 PM
Martin Luther, Miklos Horthy, Novak Đoković, James Monroe, Bill Gates, Henry Clinton, David Crockett, Chuck Norris, Elvis Presley, Rurik... are I.
Nikola Tesla - R1a.
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 05:53 PM
Lepenski Vir culture was mix of I2a and R1b https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepenski_Vir
https://arhiva.dnk.poreklo.rs/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/лввв.png
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 05:58 PM
Nikola Tesla - R1a.
Yes, it was surprise. Everyone connecting him with I2a.
xripkan
02-13-2019, 06:22 PM
If I2 is Pre-Indoeuropean why is it considered Proto-Slavic and not Paleo-Balkanic since Slavs were Indo-Europeans?
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 06:24 PM
If I2 is Pre-Indoeuropean why is it considered Proto-Slavic and not Paleo-Balkanic since Slavs were Indo-Europeans?
Paleo-Balkanites were IE speakers as well.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 06:26 PM
If I2 is Pre-Indoeuropean why is it considered Proto-Slavic and not Paleo-Balkanic since Slavs were Indo-Europeans?
lol it took part in Slavic formation like I1 took in Germanic.
xripkan
02-13-2019, 06:27 PM
Paleo-Balkanites were IE speakers as well.
They were a mix of indoeuropean and Pre-Indoeuropean peoples.
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 06:28 PM
They were a mix of indoeuropean and Pre-Indoeuropean peoples.
Slavs were also mix of IE and pre-IE people. Their ethno-genesis happened in eastern Europe.
btw,
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207511-Happy-I-m-not-R1a
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 06:33 PM
btw,
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207511-Happy-I-m-not-R1a
His Ethnicity: Crno kao Grk (that means on Serbian - black as Greek). :rotfl:
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 06:45 PM
House of Bourbon = R-U106
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bourbon
House of Habsburg = R-U152
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Habsburg
Stefanos.tasidis
02-13-2019, 06:47 PM
You have 46 chromosomes.
Y chromosome is 1 out of 46
1/46*100 = ~2 percent
It's about 2% of your genome. even less because of the size of the y chromosome...
I rest my case
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 06:51 PM
Ottoman Dynasty = R-Z93
Árpád Dynasty = R-Z93
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81rp%C3%A1d_dynasty
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 06:54 PM
Ottoman Dynasty = R-Z93
Árpád Dynasty = R-Z93
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_dynasty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81rp%C3%A1d_dynasty
And? Attila might be R1a-Z93 as well. Ottoman dynasty and their empire were cancer of Europe.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 06:55 PM
You have 46 chromosomes.
Y chromosome is 1 out of 46
1/46*100 = ~2 percent
It's about 2% of your genome. even less because of the size of the y chromosome...
I rest my case
And only part of dna that never recombines. Why do you have mtdna info only in your profile, where's ydna ?
Are you a woman ?
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 06:59 PM
And? Attila might be R1a-Z93 as well. Ottoman dynasty and their empire were cancer of Europe.
There are lot of European royal Houses who are hg R. That's expected ofcourse.
House of Lancaster = R-U152
House of Plantagenet = R-U152 (Lancester and York are cadet branches)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lancaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Plantagenet
House of Wettin = R-U106
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Wettin
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 07:01 PM
There are lot of European royal Houses who are hg R. That's expected ofcourse.
House of Lancaster = R-U152
House of Plantagenet = R-U152 (Lancester and York are cadet branches)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lancaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Plantagenet
House of Wettin = R-U106
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Wettin
Reptiloids. :)
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 07:04 PM
And only part of dna that never recombines. Why do you have mtdna info only in your profile, where's ydna ?
Are you a woman ?
He's probably I2a.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 07:14 PM
Martin Luther, Miklos Horthy, Novak Đoković, James Monroe, Bill Gates, Henry Clinton, David Crockett, Chuck Norris, Elvis Presley, Rurik... are I.
You forgot most Alpha I-man ever.
https://i.gifer.com/Lei.gif
https://i.imgur.com/OOkGJ.jpg
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 07:21 PM
Alright, seem there are some royal I houses. Rurik I2-din ?
House of Bjelbo = I1
House of Grimaldi = I1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bjelbo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Grimaldi
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 07:24 PM
Taking about legends, you all forgot this I2 dude.
https://cdn3.movieweb.com/i/article/KNXBbWF1Rts8TmcHcwyqRtaIPnmlUS/798:50/Taken-4-Not-Happening-Liam-Neeson.jpg
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 07:29 PM
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Not a Cop
02-13-2019, 07:38 PM
Well, I's have cucked most of neolithic males, just look at hg's of found neolithics in Europe.
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 07:57 PM
bro you forgot this dude
On the left: The Reality (Virgin Old European = hg I)
On the right: Idealised fantasy version of himself ( Chad Indo-European = hg R)
Hope Jana won't mind. :laugh:
Is stears y dna I?
I'd remove that pic btw, mods will fuck you.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 07:57 PM
Is stears y dna I?
I'd remove that pic btw, mods will fuck you.
Yeah, he is I1.
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 07:59 PM
Yeah, he is I1.
Stears is indigenous brother.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 07:59 PM
Well, I's have cucked most of neolithic males, just look at hg's of found neolithics in Europe.
How did that happen though ? Neolitics are suposed to be G2a.
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 08:04 PM
How did that happen though ? Neolitics are suposed to be G2a.
I was still popular through the neolithic area, didnt exactly disappear with the farmers migrations, I2 was the second highest populated y dna in neolithic era at 16% of men, and I1 was up there also. I2 then had more babies, especially in south-east Europe. I1/I2 was also smarter and sided with dominant Yamna's who went on to found slavic/germanic cultures. G hasn't done as much post neolithic era compared to I who took part in the creation of Germanics/Slavs.
"Nowadays, I2a1 is five to ten times more common than G2a in Southeast Europe, while during the Neolithic period G2a was approximately four times more common. What can explain this complete reversal? At one point in history, I2a1 lineages seem to have benefited from being on the winning side. Apart from a minor boost from (hypothetically) joining Yamna's westward expansion to Europe, the principal determining event that allowed I2a1b-L621 to become a major Eastern European lineage was probably the Slavic migrations from the 6th to the 9th century CE. "
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 08:15 PM
Without sounding biased I do think I2a-din is one of the more interesting clades of I as it's the only one I can think of which was seemingly involved in the early ethnogenesis of Germanic tribes, and then involved in the ethgenesis of proto-slavs, and now almost completely Slavic in character. Interestingly I read a post on FTDNA of a British guy who is tested I2a-Dinaric North and matches with North Slavs, it's suspected his ancestor was assimilated by early baltic Germanics and then either Saxons or Vikings before being brought to Britain. I didn't save the thread and wish I did as I cannot find it now.
Alright, seem there are some royal I houses. Rurik I2-din ?
House of Bjelbo = I1
House of Grimaldi = I1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bjelbo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Grimaldi
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people
Robert the Bruce. King of Scotland
Source: descendant testing no 267088 Robert, 6th Lord of Annandale de Brus b.1243 d.1304 Scotland I1-Y17395 @ https://www.familytreedna.com/public/I1-L69?iframe=yresults
Insuperable
02-13-2019, 10:09 PM
This is blasphemy. This is madness.
This is blasphemy. This is madness.
This is Sparta
Smeagol
02-13-2019, 10:15 PM
Haplogroups in general are irrelevant.
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 10:16 PM
Haplogroups in general are irrelevant.
This is on the Y dna forum so if you don't like Haplogroups you don't need to be here if you don't want to.
What is your Y dna out of curiosity? I know you are a mix of a few different ethnicity's, which one is your paternal line?
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 10:16 PM
Haplogroups in general are irrelevant.
C U C K
Let's bet you aren't happy with your haplogroup and that's why you claim so. Haplogroups aren't irrelevant.
Are surnames irrelevant ? Without Y haplogroup you wouldn't have a dick.
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 10:17 PM
C U C K
Let's bet you aren't happy with your haplogroup and that's why you claim so. Haplogroups aren't irrelevant.
Are surnames irrelevant ? Without Y haplogroup you wouldn't have a dick.
https://gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Bear.png
Haplogroups in general are irrelevant.
They do correlate with ethnicites/meta-ethnicites/races majority of the time though.
This is on the Y dna forum so if you don't like Haplogroups you don't need to be here if you don't want to.
What is your Y dna out of curiosity? I know you are a mix of a few different ethnicity's, which one is your paternal line?
Ashkenazi
Smeagol
02-13-2019, 10:20 PM
This is on the Y dna forum so if you don't like Haplogroups you don't need to be here if you don't want to.
What is your Y dna out of curiosity? I know you are a mix of a few different ethnicity's, which one is your paternal line?
My paternal grandpa is R1a. I don't know what branch or whatever.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 10:21 PM
Troo Aryan ^^^
Smeagol
02-13-2019, 10:22 PM
C U C K
Let's bet you aren't happy with your haplogroup and that's why you claim so. Haplogroups aren't irrelevant.
Are surnames irrelevant ? Without Y haplogroup you wouldn't have a dick.
A nigger with I haplogroup is still a nigger.
A nigger with I haplogroup is still a nigger.
a jew with R1a haplogroup is still a jew.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 10:24 PM
A nigger with I haplogroup is still a nigger.
True that. But his forefather wasn't. R1a is uber haplogroup, embrace it.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 10:25 PM
a jew with R1a haplogroup is still a jew.
The Israeli politician Benjamin Netanyahu, who has served four times as Prime Minister of Israel, belongs to haplogroup R1a-Z93 (Jewish Y2630 subclade) according to his brother's Ido's DNA test at FTDNA.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people
Aryan Jews exist also.
The Israeli politician Benjamin Netanyahu, who has served four times as Prime Minister of Israel, belongs to haplogroup R1a-Z93 (Jewish Y2630 subclade) according to his brother's Ido's DNA test at FTDNA.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people
Aryan Jews exist also.
Khazars
Smeagol
02-13-2019, 10:27 PM
They do correlate with ethnicites/meta-ethnicites/races majority of the time though.
Which is why they're only really useful for tracing population movements.
Ashkenazi
That's unlikely because i'm fairly sure my paternal great great grandfather was a Slav.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 10:28 PM
Khazars
Of Iranic origin. :)
Of Iranic origin. :)
Kipchak Hakan would disagree.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 10:30 PM
Kipchak Hakan would disagree.
who is he ?
who is he ?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?236398-Mongoloid-R1a-in-Turkish-comes-from-Mongoloid-males-mixing-with-Anatolian-Europoid-females/page13
Insuperable
02-13-2019, 10:32 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/d04qzfgb/One-Does-Not-Simply.jpg
Pribislav
02-13-2019, 10:32 PM
who is he ?
Turkish Turanic supremist.
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 10:33 PM
who is he ?
He claims R1 as Turkic origin.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-13-2019, 11:46 PM
He claims R1 as Turkic origin.
https://media.giphy.com/media/13l7w7N4Vr1dw4/giphy.gif
Ayetooey
02-13-2019, 11:47 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/13l7w7N4Vr1dw4/giphy.gif
He advertises this website, I don't know his opinion on R1b but he claims R1a is turkic.
www.Turkic-R1a-master-race.com (link seems broken maybe website is down or deleted)
Pribislav
02-14-2019, 12:41 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/13l7w7N4Vr1dw4/giphy.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ZqiLtfeOM
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 12:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ZqiLtfeOM
^^^your ancestor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWDWVDu01P0
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 12:43 AM
At least our dark hunter ancestors had beautiful blue eyes tho!
Women must of been hot cos R1a banged em.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 12:45 AM
At least our dark hunter ancestors had beautiful blue eyes tho!
Women must of been hot cos R1a banged em.
He was cutie pie. Wimminz probably had huge boobs also.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Willendorf-Venus-1468.jpg/220px-Willendorf-Venus-1468.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWDWVDu01P0
That's My Grandpa
The important thing is autosomal DNA.
The important thing is autosomal DNA.
Nah man, not for us Balkaners. You won't understand.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 12:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkq06Xn2mKA
some retards think Cheddar man was a Negro lmfao :laugh:
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 12:49 AM
Nothing Black about cheddar man or proto europeans in general, they had european features, straight or wavy hair and blue eyes, just darker skin. They looked absolutely nothing like Bantu West Africans or Somalian east africans. Yet black nationalists try claim them!
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 12:50 AM
A good example. Nothing "black" about them like the media claims.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t_QdpPjmb6Q/maxresdefault.jpg
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 12:51 AM
Nothing Black about cheddar man or proto europeans in general, they had european features, straight or wavy hair and blue eyes, just darker skin. They looked absolutely nothing like Bantu West Africans or Somalian east africans. Yet black nationalists try claim them!
:rofl:
Lol this is what PC culture does. Hard to be honest autochtonous brother these days.
Nothing Black about cheddar man or proto europeans in general, they had european features, straight or wavy hair and blue eyes, just darker skin. They looked absolutely nothing like Bantu West Africans or Somalian east africans. Yet black nationalists try claim them!
My dad is a depigmented black man
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 12:52 AM
The important thing is autosomal DNA.
It shows my grandma was having fun with some Krauts. Don't know if with consent or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkq06Xn2mKA
some retards think Cheddar man was a Negro lmfao :laugh:
I should be sleeping but I think I can't anymore after witnessing what people write in the comments on that video.
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 12:53 AM
My dad is a depigmented black man
Like this?
https://ci.memecdn.com/2723377.jpg
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 12:54 AM
I should be sleeping but I think I can't anymore after witnessing what people write in the comments on that video.
I am not shocked at all I was taught by my dad, grandparents, etc....THE DEEPER THEY DIG THE BLACKER IT GETS . KEEP ON DIGGING Baby..����☻��☻����☻��☻��☻����☻��☻����☻
I don't know why this is such a shock. Black people have told caucasians this for years. The whole Earth was black at one time, then a mutation happened and some of us devolved and lost our pigmentation.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 12:56 AM
Buhahaha
The lady in red said there were Africans in Brittain before whites. Blacks have been saying this for years. I guess we wuz kangz and sheeeittt����. Bracing myself 3...2...1
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 12:56 AM
It shows my grandma was fucking with some Krauts. Don't know if with consent or not
Bruv, I cba to link it right now, but ancestry data on morley told me I was I2a1b-I-Y4460 dinaric north. I am a completely different line, I2a1b-I-S17250-I2ph908. So you may have a vlach clade yet! Don't get too excited.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 12:58 AM
Bruv, I cba to link it right now, but ancestry data on morley told me I was I2a1b-I-Y4460 dinaric north. I am a completely different line, I2a1b-I-S17250-I2ph908. So you may have a vlach clade yet! Don't get too excited.
Man, was talking about autosomal but I'm feeling we wuz Illyrians is comming. I can feel it bro. Therefore chose more suitable avatar.
Like this?
Yeah. Check this our from ftdna. What does your say? I wonder what it say for other haplogroups.
https://i.imgur.com/IXz5PnU.png
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 12:59 AM
I am not shocked at all I was taught by my dad, grandparents, etc....THE DEEPER THEY DIG THE BLACKER IT GETS . KEEP ON DIGGING Baby..����☻��☻����☻��☻��☻����☻��☻����☻
I don't know why this is such a shock. Black people have told caucasians this for years. The whole Earth was black at one time, then a mutation happened and some of us devolved and lost our pigmentation.
Original Africans probably looked quite different to modern day blacks, pretty sure they "evolved" the same way we did over time. Black nationalists ignore science all the time, many still claim ancient egyptians were black, even tho ancient egyptians tested were closest to levantines and had less SSA dna than modern egyptian arabs.
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 01:02 AM
Yeah. Check this our from ftdna. What does your say? I wonder what it say for other haplogroups.
https://i.imgur.com/IXz5PnU.png
I don't have the clade on there as I haven't tested SNP's yet like yourself with big Y i'm guessing, just the parent Y dna, my clade has been picked up based off my str values which test positive for dinaric south I-S17250-I2ph908. 23andme which tests snps also picked up S17250. All my Y dna page says is.
I-P37 is a subgroup of I-P37
Parent haplogroup: I-P37
Age: 15,000
Region: Eastern Europe; one of the first haplogroups in Europe along with haplogroup G.
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 01:03 AM
It has my Serb big Y match below on that page with his Y dna tho.
"I-PH2898"
I don't have the clade on there as I haven't tested SNP's yet like yourself with big Y i'm guessing, just the parent Y dna, my clade has been picked up based off my str values which test positive for dinaric south I-S17250-I2ph908. 23andme which tests snps also picked up S17250. All my Y dna page says is.
I-P37 is a subgroup of I-P37
Parent haplogroup: I-P37
Age: 15,000
Region: Eastern Europe; one of the first haplogroups in Europe along with haplogroup G.
This. Early farmers like Oetzi were G. So who were the E and J's? not the first farmers then.
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 01:05 AM
Man, was talking about autosomal but I'm feeling we wuz Illyrians is comming. I can feel it bro. Therefore chose more suitable avatar.
Your results will be interesting to see, if it is germanic hopefully you'll get some close matches so it'll indicate where it's from, if you get a shit tone of Albanian matches you'll know whats up lol. I got mine a month and a half early so I think you'll get yours early. Has it been batched yet?
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-14-2019, 01:06 AM
Your results will be interesting to see, if it is germanic hopefully you'll get some close matches so it'll indicate where it's from, if you get a shit tone of Albanian matches you'll know whats up lol. I got mine a month and a half early so I think you'll get yours early. Has it been batched yet?
Yes, results coming soon baby.
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 01:06 AM
This. Early farmers like Oetzi were G. So who were the E and J's? not the first farmers then.
Didn't E come after G into Europe? Not sure about J.
Ayetooey
02-14-2019, 01:08 AM
Yes, results coming soon baby.
When you get them join the R1b project on ftdna and they'll give you all your subclades based off your str values and give you some context.
Gründig
02-14-2019, 01:49 AM
Are my long legs overrated? I dont think so.
Coastal Elite
02-14-2019, 02:34 AM
A good example. Nothing "black" about them like the media claims.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t_QdpPjmb6Q/maxresdefault.jpg
Don't the "swarthy" EEFs actually deserve credit for lightening up the Hunter Gather skin color? The Indo-Europeans get all the credit
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