View Full Version : Main types: Italians from Trentino
JMack
02-13-2019, 06:47 PM
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CommonSense
02-13-2019, 06:53 PM
They're all Subnordids!
JMack
02-13-2019, 06:56 PM
They're all Subnordids!
Strong Mitteleuropa vibes imo.
Marco94
02-13-2019, 06:56 PM
Subnordid
JMack
02-13-2019, 07:01 PM
Subnordid
Do you think they look like some Italians you see in Argentina?
There's a sizeable number of Trentino and Tyrol descendants in Brazil.
Sp_loa
02-13-2019, 07:15 PM
Mainly Sub-nordids.
Very Germanic looking, all of them!
Germany is better fit than rest of Italy. Even lighter than the people I saw in Southern Germany. Best fit- Austria, Swiss-German, Germany (South, Central and North). Central Europe.
Marco94
02-13-2019, 07:22 PM
Do you think they look like some Italians you see in Argentina?
There's a sizeable number of Trentino and Tyrol descendants in Brazil.
The woman is incredibly similar to my maternal family, who are (mainly) Piedmontese, except for my great-grandmother who was Swiss-German. I've seen plenty of Piedmontese, Lombards and Friulian descendants that look like that here.
Regarding Tyrolese descendants, I'm just aware one friend of mine being of Tyrolese descent (I've researched his surname and it's exclusively found in Trentino-Alto Adige), and he is blond with blue eyes, but looks more Noric than Nordid. I'm not aware of any other Tyrolese descendants to be honest.
However, I met this girl who was an exchange student here in Argentina, who was from a little town in Trentino (when I'm on my PC I can share some pics of her), and she looked subnordid just like those types. Her boyfriend has a similar phenotype too.
Smaug
02-13-2019, 07:24 PM
Subnordoids.
Veslan
02-13-2019, 08:05 PM
Nordic-Alpine blend predominates (Subnordic), some are also more Mediterranean (North Atlantic) shifted.
Radiy
02-13-2019, 09:07 PM
subnordids
Columella
02-13-2019, 09:08 PM
Mainly Alpine with Nordic/Noric.
These are likely German or Ladin first language.
Belong more to the Germanic/Alps area than the Po valley/Mediterranean one.
Mainly subnordids. They look like the Northern Italians that migrated to Southern brazil.
swiftie13
02-14-2019, 01:52 PM
I can't believe how north and south Italy are so different
Rouxinol
02-14-2019, 02:08 PM
I can't believe how north and south Italy are so different
Thing is, they aren't. Trentino is a very small region near the Austrian border which used to be Austrian (German).
Licantropo
02-14-2019, 02:31 PM
Mainly Alpine with Nordic/Noric.
These are likely German or Ladin first language.
Belong more to the Germanic/Alps area than the Po valley/Mediterranean one.
Ladins are in no way shape or form Germans though. Genetically they are closer to Venetians than to Austrians infact. Even their language has nothing to do with Germans . Alpine Italians can be very fair without being Germans.
Thing is, they aren't. Trentino is a very small region near the Austrian border which used to be Austrian (German).
Yeah where Mussolini moved half of Italy though. LOL
Licantropo
02-14-2019, 02:50 PM
I can't believe how north and south Italy are so different
Fact is that South Italians are heavely cherrypicked here despite some differences still exist.
JMack
03-25-2019, 12:06 AM
bump
Sp_loa
03-25-2019, 12:14 AM
I can't believe how north and south Italy are so different
Those extremely North Italians share rich history (and genetics) with south Germanic people (Austrians-Bavarians) while South Italians share rich history with Greek tribes...
RanselBaar
03-25-2019, 12:17 AM
Ashkenazi
JMack
03-25-2019, 12:58 AM
Ashkenazi
Only in your North African brain.
Only in your North African brain.
I don't get it why people use this as attacks when they are Caucasians some one from Tunisia Saudia Arabia are no different than a Swede.
RanselBaar
03-25-2019, 01:18 AM
Only in your North African brain.
Lol, maybe in your "Asian Pacific" brain.
JMack
03-25-2019, 01:19 AM
I don't get it why people use this as attacks when they are Caucasians some one from Tunisia Saudia Arabia are no different than a Swede.
lol
lol
They are Caucasians they are only 4 human races within the human Homosapiens race
Caucasian
Negroid
Mongloid
Australoid.
Anything else are "sub"-races varieties of everything else.
JMack
03-25-2019, 01:26 AM
They are Caucasians they are only 4 human races within the human Homosapiens race
Caucasian
Negroid
Mongloid
Australoid.
Anything else are "sub"-races varieties of everything else.
All North Africans are SSA/Negroid admixed.
All North Africans are SSA/Negroid admixed.
What about Gulf Arabs( UAE, Saudi Arabia and close countries)?
All North Africans are SSA/Negroid admixed.
Genetically speaking they will be on the same level as castizos since they are 70-90% west eurosian Caucasoid.
JMack
03-25-2019, 01:30 AM
What about Gulf Arabs( UAE, Saudi Arabia and close countries)?
They have less SSA than North Africans, around 8% on average. Gulf Arabs are basically Caucasoid.
North Africans are around 20% SSA on average. The least admixed North African I've seen was around 6% SSA.
MysteriousWays
03-25-2019, 01:56 AM
Would probably guess as Germans, but some can pass in Britain too. Most common types are Subnordid & North Atlantid from this set.
JMack
03-31-2019, 03:00 PM
bump
trebil
03-31-2019, 03:12 PM
Strong Mitteleuropa vibes imo.
Yes but you've picked Ladins and some South Tyroleans imo
Nassbean
03-31-2019, 03:15 PM
Genetically and historically speaking they are not italians but a mix of celts and germanics even ancient romans viewed them as gauls
JMack
03-31-2019, 03:15 PM
Yes but you've picked Ladins and some South Tyroleans imo
Trentino people have a shared history and culture, Italian-speaking communities from Tyrol share more with their German and Ladin speaking counterparts than with Sardinians or Sicilians, it's obvious. Genetically they are also similar.
I picked Italians from Trentino because these people are Italian.
Haider
04-01-2019, 01:54 AM
Genetically and historically speaking they are not italians but a mix of celts and germanics even ancient romans viewed them as gauls
Not true. They are closest to people from Veneto and Friuli genetically.
Regnera
04-01-2019, 02:10 AM
Aren't they German-speaking minority in Italy?
Latinus
04-01-2019, 02:18 AM
Thing is, they aren't. Trentino is a very small region near the Austrian border which used to be Austrian (German).
+1.
JMack
04-01-2019, 02:18 AM
Aren't they German-speaking minority in Italy?
Trentino people are Tyroleans and they speak three main languages nowadays: Italian, German and Ladin. In the past Upper German dialects were even more widespread, reaching even many parts of Veneto and Friuli. Genetically speaking you could say there's a ''Northeastern Italian-Tyrolean'' cluster going from Austrian Tyrol to Triveneto.
These people mostly descend from a mix of Germanic groups like Cimbrians and Bavarians, Gauls and Italic peoples.
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