State main phenotypes among city councilors of Cremona, Lombardy

[Rouxinol]

City councilors from Cremona, Lombardy, Italy.

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/abeccaralia_0.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/amoreluigi.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/antoniolialessandro.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/arcainisara.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/bonalifilippo.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/bonarodolfo.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/bufanomichele.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/burgazziluca.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/canalesanto.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/carlettipaolo.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/carpanialessandro.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/cerasomariavittoria.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/chiappanicarla.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/evertgiorgio.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/fantialessandro.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/fasanifederico.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/fiammarenato.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/gagliardigiovanni.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/ghidotticarlaberto.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/giovettiferruccio.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/lanfredimarialucia.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/liparaluigi.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/manfredinienrico.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/pasqualisimona.jpg

[Cernunnos]

Germanics everywhere..... :lol:

[Cernunnos]

Jokes aside they look standard Southern European. Their suppoused light feature and germanic build is nothing ouf of extraordinary compared with your Southerner countries. xD

[Marolinepint]

Why did you include the ones with a southern Italian surname?

[Marolinepint]

Jokes aside they look standard Southern European. Their suppoused light feature and germanic build is nothing ouf of extraordinary compared with your Southerner countries. xD

Half of them are southern Italians LOL

[Licantropo]

Jokes aside they look standard Southern European. Their suppoused light feature and germanic build is nothing ouf of extraordinary compared with your Southerner countries. xD

Again with this shit...LOL
When you wil find a REAL Italian here that claims North Italians look German make me a phone call. Good luck to find him for your 90° birthday.

Their obvious closer kins are other Italians, especially central Italians and then Souther French. Period.

[Deneb]

The usual mixture of Alpinids and Mediterranean types.

[Cernunnos]

Again with this shit...LOL
When you wil find a REAL Italian here that claims North Italians look German make me a phone call. Good look to find him for your 90° birthday.

Their obvious closer kins are other Italians, especially central Italians and then Souther French. Period.

https://i.postimg.cc/Kcq6Fsqn/aermacchi.png


And you just have to read the posts of your fellow country man jodobodwanna and his sock Marolinepint to realize he despises Southern Italians due to the suppoused Germanic heritage of Northern Italy. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Rouxinol]

I didn't check which surnames were north or south. But I don't think that would matter either. You should stop trying to split your country in two.
There were these ones left:

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/poliroberto.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/pontiggiafrancesca.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/schifanogiancarlo.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/sozziandrea.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/tellistefania.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/venturamarcello.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/zanardialessio.jpg
https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2017/06/cigalaroberto.jpg

https://www.comune.cremona.it/node/427366

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Alpine-meds, east meds, dinarids, alpines, dinarid-meds.

[Licantropo]

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[Licantropo]

I didn't check which surnames were north or south. But I don't think that would matter either. You should stop trying to split your country in two.
There were these ones left:



https://www.comune.cremona.it/node/427366

^
Why there isn't any admin here that ban this idiot flamer obsessed with italians ??

You are the only one that constantly try to split our country claiming that North Italians look more like Iberians than like other Italians imbecile.

[Licantropo]

https://i.postimg.cc/Kcq6Fsqn/aermacchi.png


And you just have to read the posts of your fellow country man jodobodwanna and his sock Marolinepint to realize he despises Southern Italians due to the suppoused Germanic heritage of Northern Italy. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Who the fuck is that ??
Doesn't look like TA.

Posting shit that has nothing to do with TA...lol it's like i checked Google to see how many Iberian retards claim to look like Irish or have a strong link with them. :picard2:
Want you bet i find a ton??
What did you want to prove?


Btw internal discussion between Italians are none of your business and MariolinePint is a weird carachter probably a sock. Or you want to tell me that some Portuguese and Spaniards don't look down on Azoreans and Andalusians??LOL

[Cernunnos]

Who the fuck is that ??
Doesn't look like TA.

Posting shit that has nothing to do with TA...lol it's like i checked Google to see how many Iberian retards claim to look like Irish or have a strong link with them. :picard2:
Want you bet i find a ton??
What did you want to prove?

I want to prove that you're an asshole. Old style asshole, just like your bedouin friend Barkoo and your psycho face friend Minerva.

No one who was a real Portuguese/Spaniard ever claimed to be Irish/British. You are just a clown, just like most of your countrymen who lurk into this kind of foruns!

May I remind you that your friend IberoCeltic was the first one to post shit about Iberians back in 2012/2013. Not us.

[Licantropo]

I want to prove that you're an asshole. Old style asshole, just like your bedouin friend Barkoo and your psycho face friend Minerva.

No one who was a real Portuguese/Spaniard ever claimed to be Irish/British. You are just a clown, just like most of your countrymen who lurk into this kind of foruns!

May I remind you that your friend IberoCeltic was the first one to post shit about Iberians back in 2012/2013. Not us.

Wow, i touched a nerve retard?
Not even Italians claim to look Germans for that matter fuckface.


I see you have a beef with someone here, probably you are an ensecure brown mongrel who needs to call others that are not even involved in the discussion "beduins" to feel relief and you also have to transfer your hate on me just like yesterday.


You still keep on talking of people of who i don't know a fuck, so you are either a retard or mentally ill and you need to get out of your room more, asshole.

[Joso]

Jokes aside they look standard Southern European. Their suppoused light feature and germanic build is nothing ouf of extraordinary compared with your Southerner countries. xD

looool they don't look "standard" Southern European with some exceptions. The images are clearly cherrypicked. But still, mainly alpines, dinarids, north atlantids and alpine-meds. They don't look very Southern European.

[Cernunnos]

Wow, i touched a nerve retard?
Not even Italians claim to look Germans for that matter fuckface.


I see you have a beef with someone here, probably you are an ensecure brown mongrel who need to call others that are not even involved in the discussion "beduins" to feel relief.
You still keep on talking of people of who i don't know a fuck, so you are either a retard or mentally ill and you need to get out of your room more, asshole.

Don't be a liar Bande Nere, you are from the same region and the same style of typing than the admin of IR? Lol. You and your friends are behind all of this. You are the one who should leave his room more often. :lol:

[Rouxinol]

^
Why there isn't any admin here that ban this idiot flamer obsessed with italians ??

You are the only one that constantly try to split our country claiming that North Italians look more like Iberians than like other Italians imbecile.

My claim here is that north, central and south Italians don't look that different from each other in terms of pigmentation and phenotype. And the Dinarid/Dinaro-Med component is present across Italy. However, in the north there are more "Atlanto" types than in the south, and in that sense, they look closer to Iberians. But I have never said that north Italians look more Iberian than like other Italians, you are mistaking me for Sikeliot...

[Cernunnos]

looool they don't look "standard" Southern European with some exceptions. The images are clearly cherrypicked. But still, mainly alpines, dinarids, north atlantids and alpine-meds. They don't look very Southern European.

Mas eu perguntei-te algo, oh picanhas? Vai dançar funk para outro lado.

[Joso]

Why did you include the ones with a southern Italian surname?

+1

[Licantropo]

Don't be a liar Bande Nere, you are from the same region and the same style of typing than the admin of IR? Lol. You and your friends are behind all of this. You are the one who should leave his room more often. :lol:

You know that Tuscany has 4 million citizens right?? :picard2:
You sound obsessed and you have no connection with reality, you really need to leave your room, clown.

[Marolinepint]

Why did you include the ones with a southern Italian surname?

Southern Italians:

Amore (Neapolitan-Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/amoreluigi.jpg

Bufano (Apulian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/bufanomichele.jpg

Canale (Neapolitan-Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/canalesanto.jpg

Ceraso (Campanian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/cerasomariavittoria.jpg

Everet (not an Italian surname, he was born in Greece)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/evertgiorgio.jpg

Fiamma (Apulian-Campanian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/fiammarenato.jpg

Gagliardi (more common in southern Italy)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/gagliardigiovanni.jpg

Lipara (Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/liparaluigi.jpg

Schifano (Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/schifanogiancarlo.jpg

Ventura (more common in southern Italy)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/venturamarcello.jpg

Bonus (non-Lombard northern Italians or dubious surnames):

Sozzi (found in Lombardy, Emilia-Romagna, Tuscany, Sicily and Apulia)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/sozziandrea.jpg

Giovetti (Emilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/giovettiferruccio.jpg

[Rouxinol]

looool they don't look "standard" Southern European with some exceptions. The images are clearly cherrypicked. But still, mainly alpines, dinarids, north atlantids and alpine-meds. They don't look very Southern European.

Lol @ the images are clearly cherrypicked. They're from the city council website: https://www.comune.cremona.it/node/427366

[Joso]

^
Why there isn't any admin here that ban this idiot flamer obsessed with italians ??

You are the only one that constantly try to split our country claiming that North Italians look more like Iberians than like other Italians imbecile.

Again, just report him.

[Marolinepint]

Southern Italians:

Amore (Neapolitan-Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/amoreluigi.jpg

Bufano (Apulian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/bufanomichele.jpg

Canale (Neapolitan-Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/canalesanto.jpg

Ceraso (Campanian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/cerasomariavittoria.jpg

Everet (not an Italian surname, he was born in Greece)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/evertgiorgio.jpg

Fiamma (Apulian-Campanian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/fiammarenato.jpg

Gagliardi (more common in southern Italy)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/gagliardigiovanni.jpg

Lipara (Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/liparaluigi.jpg

Schifano (Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/schifanogiancarlo.jpg

Ventura (more common in southern Italy)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/venturamarcello.jpg

Bonus (non-Lombard northern Italians or dubious surnames):

Sozzi (found in Lombardy, Emilia-Romagna, Tuscany, Sicily and Apulia)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/sozziandrea.jpg

Giovetti (Emilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/giovettiferruccio.jpg

AND THIS IS JUST THE PATERNAL LINE. I DON'T HAVE THEIR MOTHERS' SURNAMES.

[Joso]

Southern Italians:

Amore (Neapolitan-Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/amoreluigi.jpg

Bufano (Apulian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/bufanomichele.jpg

Canale (Neapolitan-Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/canalesanto.jpg

Ceraso (Campanian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/cerasomariavittoria.jpg

Everet (not an Italian surname, he was born in Greece)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/evertgiorgio.jpg

Fiamma (Apulian-Campanian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/fiammarenato.jpg

Gagliardi (more common in southern Italy)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/gagliardigiovanni.jpg

Lipara (Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/liparaluigi.jpg

Schifano (Sicilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/schifanogiancarlo.jpg

Ventura (more common in southern Italy)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/venturamarcello.jpg

Bonus (non-Lombard northern Italians or dubious surnames):

Sozzi (found in Lombardy, Emilia-Romagna, Tuscany, Sicily and Apulia)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/sozziandrea.jpg

Giovetti (Emilian surname)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/giovettiferruccio.jpg


Lol @ the images are clearly cherrypicked. They're from the city council website: https://www.comune.cremona.it/node/427366


Germanics everywhere..... :lol:

Looooooooool

[Rouxinol]

Again, just report him.

Report you for spamming the Taxonomy forum with your delusions of a ginger Italy? Ok.

[Cernunnos]

You know that Tuscany has 4 million citizens right?? :picard2:
You sound obsessed and you have no connection with reality, you really need to leave your room, clown.

You have 0 connection with reality because you don't know how your country men look like. :lol:

[Licantropo]

You have 0 connection with reality because you don't know how your country men look like. :lol:

Yeah, i was waiting for a Portuguese with a chip on his shoulder who supports a troll like Rossignol to know how my country fellows look like. :lol00002:

[Joso]

AND THIS IS JUST THE PATERNAL LINE. I DON'T HAVE THEIR MOTHERS' SURNAMES.

+1!!

[Cernunnos]

Yeah, i was waiting for a Portuguese with a chip on his shoulder who supports a troll like Rossignol to know how my country fellows look like. :lol00002:

Neither I was waiting for a Italian asshole with mental issues to know better my country. :lol:

[Licantropo]

Neither I was waiting for a Italian asshole with mental issues to know better my country. :lol:

If you didn't notice it's you that started to address me, not the other way around and i have never put a step in threads concerning Portuguese contrarily to you with Italians .
You must be really an insecure douche . Everyone can see that you attacked me out the blue and insulted people who aren't even here.
Talking about mental ilnesses.

My compliments, you have won a prize to get this Italian gift :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84973&stc=1

[Cernunnos]

If you didn't notice it's you that started to address me, not the other way around and i have never put a step in threads concerning Portuguese contrarily to you with Italians .
You must be really an insecure douche . Everyone can see that you attacked me out the blue and insulted people who aren't even here.
Talking about mental ilnesses.

My compliments, you have won a prize to get this Italian gift :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=84973&stc=1

If you attack my countrymen I will also adress you, but no worries. I adressed you because I'm almost sure you are the reeincarnation of someone else.

[Licantropo]

If you attack my countrymen I will also adress you, but no worries. I adressed you because I'm almost sure you are the reeincarnation of someone else.

Come again??
In which of your parallel realities i attacked Portuguese? LOL

Yeah, i'm the reincarnation of Napoleon.

[Faklon]

Everet (not an Italian surname, he was born in Greece)

https://www.comune.cremona.it/sites/default/files/immagini/2015/02/evertgiorgio.jpg



Interesting, is there more info οn his origin?

I'm not aware of any Everet in Greece but there is Evert(Έβερτ), ultimately of Bavarian origin hailing from the personal guard of the king.



Lipara (Sicilian surname)

Also, this translates to fat in Greek.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lipo-

[Marolinepint]

Interesting, is there more info οn his origin?

I'm not aware of any Everet in Greece but there is Evert(Έβερτ), ultimately of Bavarian origin hailing from the personal guard of the king.

He was born in Corfu and he is a member of the Hellenic Community of Brescia and Cremona:
http://www.ellade.org/2013/03/statuto-della-comunita-ellenica-di-brescia-e-cremona-greco/#more-75


https://i.imgur.com/ER2eTC2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/X853oHA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UUIOJZd.jpg


You are right about the etymology of the surname Lipara:


https://i.imgur.com/ZWM0kP9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/I3DRcMj.jpg

[Not a Cop]

AND THIS IS JUST THE PATERNAL LINE. I DON'T HAVE THEIR MOTHERS' SURNAMES.

Well if there is no pure North-Italians left, what's the point of talking about them? This is the new face of North Italy.

[Marolinepint]

Well if there is no pure North-Italians left, what's the point of talking about them? This is the new face of North Italy.

Unfortunately... but the pure ones are still the majority in small villages:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278101-Piedmontese-from-Ivrea

[Streuner]

Unfortunately... but the pure ones are still the majority in small villages:


Are you racist toward your own countrymen?

[Licantropo]

Well if there is no pure North-Italians left, what's the point of talking about them? This is the new face of North Italy.

It is a good start to find and post people with real North Italians surnames at least. We can't be sure they are 100% North Italians either but it is a good start to begin with.

[Latinus]

https://i.postimg.cc/Kcq6Fsqn/aermacchi.png


And you just have to read the posts of your fellow country man jodobodwanna and his sock Marolinepint to realize he despises Southern Italians due to the suppoused Germanic heritage of Northern Italy. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

That dude is a nordicist and he was banned from here. The types he posts aren't even average from Australia, his country, let alone Northern Italy.

[Columella]

Alpine Domianant followed by Dinaric/Norics, Nordo Meds and Meds.

[JMack]

Despite the chimping from all sides here, these people are not very dark or exotic anyway. Don't know why so much fuss about them.


Out of around 32 people I counted in a quick observation at least 18 that are light-eyed. This is more than 50% and more than anywhere else in Southern Europe. So even if it was an attempt of darkwashing than it's a failure anyway. The ones who are South Italian look average South Euro in majority and some even pass easily up north in France and parts of C. Europe.

[Streuner]

Despite the chimping from all sides here, these people are not very dark or exotic anyway. Don't know why so much fuss about them.


Out of around 32 people I counted in a quick observation at least 18 that are light-eyed. This is more than 50% and more than anywhere else in Southern Europe. So even if it was an attempt of darkwashing than it's a failure anyway. The ones who are South Italian look average South Euro in majority and some even pass easily up north in France and parts of C. Europe.

In fact no one of those people look non-European. But if you don’t post German-looking North Italians in order to demonstrate this “pureness” of their Aryan race it seems like your countrymen get triggered...

[Rouxinol]

Despite the chimping from all sides here, these people are not very dark or exotic anyway. Don't know why so much fuss about them.

Exactly!



Out of around 32 people I counted in a quick observation at least 18 that are light-eyed. This is more than 50% and more than anywhere else in Southern Europe. So even if it was an attempt of darkwashing than it's a failure anyway. The ones who are South Italian look average South Euro in majority and some even pass easily up north in France and parts of C. Europe.

As a group they do not pass easily in Northern France/Northwestern France. Even the ethnic French from Rhône-Alpes (just 500 km away) look fundamentally different phenotypically. They'd pass more easily - much more - in the Northern Balkans, after central and southern Italy. Despite some deniers, there's a phenotypical continuum across the Italian peninsula.

[Dna8]

@ Italian Posters

I'm assuming that "North Italian" (those arguing for separation on account of racial differences) lunatics are just a tiny minority in the north of the country?

[Streuner]

IMO it was not an attempt to darkwash North Italians. I think Rossignol's intention was to demonstrate that North Italians are not that different from South Italians, both fall into the South Euro range. Italy is a Mediterranean country, almost all regions are bathed by the Mediterranean sea. The non-Mediterranean regions of Italy are just five: Piedmont, Valley of Aosta, Lombardy, Trentino Alto Adige and Umbria. But in these regions you can still find Med-looking people, like these specimen from Valley of Aosta here:

Ego Perron (Perron is 100% North Italian surname)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ego_perron_2012.jpg/250px-Ego_perron_2012.jpg

Laurent Viérin (Viérin is 100% North Italian surname)

http://www.ansa.it/webimages/img_457x/2018/3/9/d1bfe86c9f2a654aaf8992dff7a63eaa.jpg

http://enricomartial.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/laurent-vierin.jpg

[Regnera]

A little darker than I thought them would be,I thought Lombards are a bit lighter than NW Italians

[Visage pâle]

Exactly!




As a group they do not pass easily in Northern France/Northwestern France. Even the ethnic French from Rhône-Alpes (just 500 km away) look fundamentally different phenotypically. They'd pass more easily - much more - in the Northern Balkans, after central and southern Italy. Despite some deniers, there's a phenotypical continuum across the Italian peninsula.

In eye color, grenoble's french are slightly lighter but in skin tone, they are mostly pinkish white whereas most italian aren't.

[barkoo]

Despite the chimping from all sides here, these people are not very dark or exotic anyway. Don't know why so much fuss about them.


Out of around 32 people I counted in a quick observation at least 18 that are light-eyed. This is more than 50% and more than anywhere else in Southern Europe. So even if it was an attempt of darkwashing than it's a failure anyway. The ones who are South Italian look average South Euro in majority and some even pass easily up north in France and parts of C. Europe.

That's not the point, OP is a troll only here to DW North Italians. This is clear like the water. If that was somewhat serious he would have provided surnames origin etc. Italy is not homogeneous. Only retarded clowns or/and ppl that have zero clue about North Italy can actually believe their mainly originated from that region. In fact this thread has at the end the reverse effect from what it was originally created for, since South Italians here are indeed not really exotic at all.