Pigmentation of Slovenians

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Slovenian army recruits in 1903 (Weisbach):

Eye color:

https://i.postimg.cc/x8vfpdgy/Slovenia-Augen.png

Hair and skin color:

https://i.postimg.cc/L8ndnXfC/Slovenia-Haut-Hair.png

Slovenian Boys and Girls in 1930 (Škerlj):

https://i.postimg.cc/DzxCVVB9/Skerlj4.gif

Slovenian girls with regional differences (Štajerska, Gorenjska, Ljubljana, Dolenjska, Kras, Primorje) in 1931 (Škerlj):

https://i.postimg.cc/rz2dzbZg/3.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/yxZnSDsK/6.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/9MvYVcTn/7.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/CK5GqRs2/8.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/QCG1w0ZL/9.gif

Slovenian athletes in 1935 (Škerlj):

https://i.postimg.cc/28jV6Pwc/Slovenians-Hair-and-Eyes-Skerlj-Martin-Fisher-scale-ENGLISH.png

Then there is of course that eye color study on Wikipedia that has been posted many times. If anyone has any more data post it here.

I also have numbers for Slovenia's neighboring countries (Austria, Croatia and Bosnia) if anyone is interested.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Don't get what is hh,hd,dh,dd suposed to mean mate. If I'm looking at this right Carinthia is lightest region ? Yeah would be interested to see data about neighbouring countries also.

[Supercomputer]

Don't get what is hh,hd,dh,dd suposed to mean mate. If I'm looking at this right Carinthia is lightest region ? Yeah would be interested to see data about neighbouring countries also.

hh= hell, hell - meaning both hair and eyes are light
dd= dunkel, dunkel - meaning both hair and eyes are dark.
hd and dh are combinations

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Interesting how highest amount of dark haired, light-eyed people come from Gorenjska (Upper Carniola). My father is from there and he is black haired, blue eyed just like me.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Largest percentage of light haired, light-eyed girls

1. Ljubljana (just city or wider region ?) - central Slovenia
2. Primorje - westernmost coastal Slovenia
3. Kras - southwest Slovenia
4. Gorenjska (Upper Cariola) - northwest Slovenia
5. Dolenjska (Lower Carniola) - central-south Slovenia
6. Styria - northeast Slovenia

Too bad there's no spearate data on Carinthia/Koroška which looks to be the lighest region and Prekmurje (extreme east bordering Hungary) which wasn't studied.

But it looks like Western part of Slovenia is lighter than Eastern part. I'm suprised how highly ranked littoral part bordering Italy is.

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Adriatic coast in 1884. No separation between Croats and Serbs. Labelled "Serbokroats" by Weisbach.

Ragusa = Dubrovnik
Cattaro = Kotor
Kunstenland = Kvarner
Nordinseln=North Islands
Sudinseln=South Islands


Hair and Eyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/m2fzFbYw/Serbokroaten-Kunstenland-FULL-hair-and-eyes.png

Central and Pannonian Croatia in 1905. Slavonia then included Srijem. Germans, Czechs & others excluded from the study.

Hair:

https://i.postimg.cc/SQ7qDk0V/Croatia-Haare.png

Eyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/8z3VjCWk/Croatia-Augen.png

Skin:

https://i.postimg.cc/Pqt1vtkc/Croatia-Haut.png

Bosnia & Herzegovina in 1895:

Hair by region:

https://i.postimg.cc/B628mksD/Bosnia-Hair-Color-by-Region.png

Hair color map:

https://i.postimg.cc/X7sr1wM2/Bosnians-Hair-Color-Map.png

Eyes by region:

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9N96Ffz/Bosnia-Eyes-by-Region.png

Eye color map:

https://i.postimg.cc/XN8qXwvV/Bosnians-Eye-Color-Map.png

Skin by region:

https://i.postimg.cc/xCPfJ2ns/Bosnia-Skin-by-region.png

Bosnia Types

By region:

https://i.postimg.cc/hjCFRPSq/Bosnia-Types-by-Region.png

Types map:

https://i.postimg.cc/Fzf6tyWj/Bosnia-Types-Map.png

Overall Bosnians by religion:

Hair:

https://i.postimg.cc/MG3khpZJ/Bosnians-Haar.png

Eyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/4dH0qvFp/Bosnians-Augen.png

Skin:

https://i.postimg.cc/BQ0z7K51/Bosnians-haut.png

Types:

https://i.postimg.cc/tgYvntb8/Bosnia-Types.png

All studies done by German anthropologist Augustin Weisbach

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Slovenian regions with highest amount of dark-haired, dark-eyed people according to this:

1. Kras
2. Primorje
3. Dolenjska
4. Štajerska
5. Ljubljana
6. Gorenjska

Smallest amount of wogs in Gorenjska ! :victory0:

Southwest is most wog,but at the same time has above average amount of full light people. Styria is one of darker regions,didn't expect that. They have both lot of fully dark girls and below average concetration of light ones.

[Roy]

Less red hair than expected, according to it only circa 1% among Slovenian people. In Poland it can be 1-2%.

Interesting division between Mahomedaner, Katholiken & Griech-Orient. (Orthodox), easy to guess it means ''Bosniak, Serb & Croat or Slovenian in modern terms most of the time.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Less red hair than expected, according to it only circa 1% among Slovenian people. In Poland it can be 1-2%.

Interesting division between Mahomedaner, Katholiken & Griech-Orient. (Orthodox), easy to guess it means ''Bosniak, Serb & Croat or Slovenian in modern terms most of the time.

Look how high amount of blond hair is when you consider Slovenia geographic location.

22,2 % of light blond! among slovenian athletes. Togheder with dark blond it comes above 40% of blonds which is huge. But I'm pretty sure German minority was counted in this statistics also.

[Supercomputer]

Slovenian regions with highest amount of dark-haired, dark-eyed people according to this:

1. Kras
2. Primorje
3. Dolenjska
4. Štajerska
5. Ljubljana
6. Gorenjska

Smallest amount of wogs in Gorenjska ! :victory0:

Southwest is most wog,but at the same time has above average amount of full light people. Styria is one of darker regions,didn't expect that. They have both lot of fully dark girls and below average concetration of light ones.

Yes it's interesting how pure blond doesn't always correlate with pure dark. The latter seems to be always more latitude oriented than the first. Also for example Livi's map of italy blond types is less latitude dependant than dark types. Austria also; It seems to have even slightly less pure blonds than Slovenia, but much less pure dark types. Will post Austria soon.

[Supercomputer]

Look how high amount of blond hair is when you consider Slovenia geographic location.

22,2 % of light blond! among slovenian athletes. Togheder with dark blond it comes above 40% of blonds which is huge. But I'm pretty sure German minority was counted in this statistics also.

IDK if the Germans are counted or not. I can send you the study and you can read it yourself if you'd like.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

IDK if the Germans are counted or not. I can send you the study and you can read it yourself if you'd like.

Sure mate, go ahead. In any case Slovenes are fairest people in southern part of Europe, and I mean ethnic ones. If Slovene-Germans were counted it wouldn't make big difference.

[Insuperable]

Look how high amount of blond hair is when you consider Slovenia geographic location.

22,2 % of light blond! among slovenian athletes. Togheder with dark blond it comes above 40% of blonds which is huge. But I'm pretty sure German minority was counted in this statistics also.

They should get some kind of medal.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Adriatic coast in 1884. No separation between Croats and Serbs. Labelled "Serbokroats" by Weisbach.

Well, looks like difference between Croats and Serbs in pigmentation was significant.

In Croatia-Slavonia 32% of Croats had fair hair compared to 18% of Serbs, almost double more.
47% of Panonnian Croats had light eyes compared to 30% of Panonnian Serbs.

In Dalmatia they're mostly uniformly dark haired just like I said, but lowest amount of light eyes in in mainland where again lived huge Serbian orthodox population. And than Kotor which is Montenegro.
All Croat-inhabited parts of littoral had above 40% of light eyes.

In Bosnia muslims (Bosniaks) had highest amount of fair hair and light eyes, catholics (Croats) were intermediate and orthodox (Serbs) darkest.
But interestingly catholic Croats were whitest skinned. This again corresponds with what I said about BiH.

[Supercomputer]

Well, looks like difference between Croats and Serbs in pigmentation was significant.

In Croatia-Slavonia 32% of Croats had fair hair compared to 18% of Serbs, almost double more.
47% of Panonnian Croats had light eyes compared to 30% of Panonnian Serbs.

In Dalmatia they're mostly uniformly dark haired just like I said, but lowest amount of light eyes in in mainland where again lived huge Serbian orthodox population. And than Kotor which is Montenegro.

All Croat-inhabited parts of littoral had above 40% of light eyes.

In Bosnia muslims (Bosniaks) had highest amount of fair hair and light eyes, catholics (Croats) were intermediate and orthodox (Serbs) darkest.
But interestingly catholic Croats were whitest skinned. This again corresponds with what I said about BiH.

Yes, interesting that Bosnian Muslims are the blondest. I have no idea why would that be the case, maybe the blond ones were more likely to convert for some reason. Regarding Catholics being lightest skinned; that makes sense since according to modern genetics Bosnian Croats are more distinct from Bosniaks and Serbs that these two are from each other.

Here is the Skerlj study from 1935
http://www.dlib.si/details/URN:NBN:SI:DOC-LENF7HGA
(download PDF on the left)

[Supercomputer]

Well, looks like difference between Croats and Serbs in pigmentation was significant.

In Croatia-Slavonia 32% of Croats had fair hair compared to 18% of Serbs, almost double more.
47% of Panonnian Croats had light eyes compared to 30% of Panonnian Serbs.

Yes, but remember this likely changed in more than 100 years since the study was done. Slavonia is a region where you had one of the highest rates of people identifying as "Yugoslavs" meaning ethnically mixed marriages. These would later resegregate back into ethnic identities - some into one others into other - when Yugoslavia collapsed. This would have lightened Serbs and darkened Croats.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Yes, but remember this likely changed in more than 100 years since the study was done. Slavonia is a region where you had one of the highest rates of people identifying as "Yugoslavs" meaning ethnically mixed marriages. These would later resegregate back into ethnic identities - some into one others into other - when Yugoslavia collapsed. This would have lightened Serbs and darkened Croats.

Yeah, I agree. Differences now are smaller than they were before.

[Supercomputer]

Austrians Carinthia:

Carinthia Hair and Skin:
https://i.postimg.cc/KzY3gLZ3/Carinthia-Hair-and-Haut.png

Carinthia Eyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/jqHLvt5S/Carinthia-Augen1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/NjzML0Np/Carinthia-Augen2.png

Austrians Steyermark:

Steyermark Hair:

https://i.postimg.cc/mZygCjXc/Austrians-Steiermark-haare.png

Steyermark Eyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/WzNj5RWd/Austrians-Steiermark-Augen.png

Austrians Salzburg

Salzburg Hair and Eyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/RF9z05zg/Salzburger-Augen-und-Haare.png

Salzburg Skin:

https://i.postimg.cc/8CQ2yQsT/Salzburger-Haut.png

Salzburg By Region:

https://i.postimg.cc/ydn2YDjN/Salzburger-Hair-and-eyes-by-Region.png

Austrians Upper Austria:

Upper Austria Hair and Eyes:

https://i.postimg.cc/JnhPxP31/Upper-Austrians-Hair-and-Eyes.png

Upper Austria Skin:

https://i.postimg.cc/kg9Z8NH5/Upper-Austrians-Skin-Color.png


I don't have any screenshots for Austria's most populous region Lower Austria since that volume of the isn't available online, but luckily it's referenced in other studies:

Lower Austria:

Hair Color:
Red 1,37%
Blond 19,4%
L. Brown 23,5%
Brown 52,9%
Black 2,68%

Eye Color:

Blue 16%
Gray 26,2%
Gray-brown 26,4%
Brown 31,4%

Lower Austria seems to be darkest region of Austria. Least darks are found in Salzburg and Upper Austria, while most blonds in Carinthia.

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Comparison of Austrians with Slovenes, Dalmatians, Bosnians and Czechs:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZYw23ySP/Slovenians-Austrians-Types.png

Austrians from upper Salzach region:

https://i.postimg.cc/tJn3YfbM/Pigmentation-of-Austrians-in-upper-Salzach.png

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

are Czech samples Bohemians only or it includes Moravians and Silesians ?

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are Czech samples Bohemians only or it includes Moravians and Silesians ?

I don't think it covers all Czechia. I posted other studies on that country under "Pigmentation of Czechs"

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double post

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Dyachenko's comparisons of Slovenians, Croats, Serbs, Montenegrins, Macedonians, Bulgarians and Albanians:


https://i.postimg.cc/zfCF72y8/Djacenko-South-Slavs-translated.jpg