Eastern and Central Euro K15 PCA

[Cumansky]

I will start posting some kits here, Nato has offered to do PCA

I post here mostly Eastern and Central Euro samples, a variety of ethnic groups

[Cumansky]

Cumansky

South Polish (1/2 Kolomyja, 1/4 Ternopil, 1/4 Lviv)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.56
2 North_Sea 25.55
3 Eastern_Euro 17.34
4 Atlantic 11.17
5 East_Med 6.9
6 West_Med 6.1
7 West_Asian 1.37
8 Siberian 0.75
9 Sub-Saharan 0.54
10 Amerindian 0.43
11 Oceanian 0.25
12 Southeast_Asian 0.04
13 South_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 6.35
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.51
3 South_Polish 8.03
4 Estonian 8.88
5 Polish 9.02
6 Southwest_Russian 9.93
7 Belorussian 10.09
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.44
9 Russian_Smolensk 10.62
10 Estonian_Polish 11.03
11 Lithuanian 11.06
12 Hungarian 11.89
13 Croatian 12.05
14 Finnish 12.21
15 Moldavian 12.66
16 Kargopol_Russian 13.32
17 East_Finnish 13.44
18 Southwest_Finnish 13.99
19 Erzya 14.85
20 East_German 15.32

[Cumansky]

CumanskyUncle

South Polish (Kolomyja)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.26
2 North_Sea 22.71
3 Eastern_Euro 19.73
4 West_Asian 11.45
5 Atlantic 9.27
6 West_Med 7.39
7 East_Med 2.38
8 Red_Sea 0.94
9 Amerindian 0.53
10 Northeast_African 0.3
11 Oceanian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.71
2 Ukrainian 8.07
3 South_Polish 9.05
4 Moldavian 9.48
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.5
6 Southwest_Russian 10.35
7 Croatian 10.81
8 Polish 11.25
9 Russian_Smolensk 11.66
10 Hungarian 12.12
11 Belorussian 12.98
12 Estonian_Polish 13.12
13 Kargopol_Russian 13.19
14 Estonian 13.67
15 Erzya 13.76
16 East_Finnish 14.94
17 Lithuanian 14.97
18 Finnish 15.01
19 East_German 15.18
20 Austrian 15.85

[Cumansky]

PL1

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.88
2 North_Sea 27.22
3 Eastern_Euro 21.81
4 Atlantic 11.23
5 West_Med 4.48
6 East_Med 2.26
7 West_Asian 2.05
8 Oceanian 0.97
9 Amerindian 0.8
10 Sub-Saharan 0.19
11 Southeast_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian 6.23
2 Ukrainian 6.86
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.88
4 Polish 8.27
5 South_Polish 8.5
6 Southwest_Russian 8.83
7 Belorussian 9.32
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.54
9 Estonian_Polish 9.83
10 Lithuanian 10.06
11 Russian_Smolensk 10.3
12 Finnish 10.73
13 Kargopol_Russian 11
14 East_Finnish 11.19
15 Erzya 12.54
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.91
17 Croatian 14.22
18 Hungarian 14.29
19 Moldavian 14.94
20 East_German 16.18

[Cumansky]

HUN1

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.63
2 North_Sea 19.59
3 Atlantic 17.92
4 Eastern_Euro 11.1
5 West_Med 9.75
6 East_Med 9.57
7 West_Asian 6.05
8 Red_Sea 1.49
9 Southeast_Asian 0.84
10 Amerindian 0.61
11 Siberian 0.29
12 Northeast_African 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.77
2 Hungarian 5.26
3 Moldavian 6.35
4 Austrian 6.7
5 Serbian 7.76
6 Romanian 9.5
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.59
8 South_Polish 9.82
9 East_German 10.05
10 Ukrainian 10.69
11 Bulgarian 11.79
12 Polish 12.33
13 Russian_Smolensk 13.15
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.13
15 Southwest_Russian 14.44
16 Belorussian 15.12
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.5
18 Estonian_Polish 15.53
19 Finnish 16.27
20 South_Dutch 16.62

[Cumansky]

PL2

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.88
2 North_Sea 21.47
3 Atlantic 15.9
4 Eastern_Euro 14.65
5 West_Asian 8.05
6 East_Med 6.73
7 West_Med 4.53
8 Northeast_African 0.33
9 Siberian 0.3
10 Sub-Saharan 0.12
11 Amerindian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 5.78
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.81
3 Ukrainian 6.94
4 Croatian 7.68
5 Polish 8.12
6 Russian_Smolensk 8.15
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.27
8 Southwest_Russian 8.72
9 Hungarian 9.07
10 Moldavian 9.15
11 Belorussian 9.59
12 Estonian_Polish 10.71
13 Austrian 11.45
14 Estonian 11.48
15 Lithuanian 12.16
16 East_German 12.87
17 Finnish 13.62
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.05
19 Kargopol_Russian 14.13
20 Serbian 14.26

[Cumansky]

UKR1 (Crimea)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.45
2 Eastern_Euro 18.32
3 Atlantic 18.22
4 North_Sea 16.68
5 East_Med 10.17
6 West_Asian 6.06
7 West_Med 4.44
8 Red_Sea 1.59
9 Southeast_Asian 0.98
10 South_Asian 0.97
11 Siberian 0.84
12 Northeast_African 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 7.16
2 Moldavian 8.5
3 Austrian 8.89
4 South_Polish 9.49
5 Hungarian 9.69
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.47
7 Serbian 10.48
8 Russian_Smolensk 10.54
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.7
10 Ukrainian 10.74
11 Southwest_Russian 10.92
12 Polish 10.92
13 Belorussian 12.63
14 Romanian 12.75
15 Estonian_Polish 12.77
16 East_German 13.33
17 Kargopol_Russian 13.45
18 Bulgarian 14.72
19 East_Finnish 14.9
20 Southwest_Finnish 14.99

[Cumansky]

PL3

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.6
2 North_Sea 24.13
3 Eastern_Euro 18.43
4 Atlantic 18.22
5 West_Asian 4.61
6 West_Med 4
7 Southeast_Asian 1.58
8 South_Asian 1.13
9 Red_Sea 0.18
10 East_Med 0.11
11 Northeast_African 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 3.9
2 South_Polish 4.45
3 Ukrainian 5.81
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.31
5 Russian_Smolensk 6.37
6 Estonian 6.37
7 Belorussian 6.85
8 Southwest_Russian 7.31
9 Estonian_Polish 7.44
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.64
11 Finnish 9.53
12 Lithuanian 9.6
13 Southwest_Finnish 9.8
14 Croatian 10.74
15 East_Finnish 11.17
16 Kargopol_Russian 11.27
17 Hungarian 11.5
18 East_German 12.02
19 La_Brana-1 12.58
20 Moldavian 13.14

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Great. I will add them dude, give me some time.

[Cumansky]

LITH1 (Surname Sabonis)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.84
2 Eastern_Euro 22.96
3 North_Sea 17.24
4 Atlantic 17.02
5 West_Med 3.68
6 Sub-Saharan 0.5
7 Amerindian 0.4
8 Oceanian 0.31
9 South_Asian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 3.92
2 Belorussian 6.32
3 Estonian_Polish 6.42
4 Russian_Smolensk 8.54
5 Southwest_Russian 8.8
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.53
7 Polish 10.43
8 Estonian 10.87
9 South_Polish 12.39
10 Ukrainian 12.48
11 Kargopol_Russian 13.1
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.33
13 Erzya 13.59
14 East_Finnish 17.49
15 Croatian 17.81
16 Finnish 18.7
17 La_Brana-1 19.29
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.7
19 Moldavian 20.19
20 Hungarian 21.06

[Cumansky]

Great. I will add them dude, give me some time.

No rush, I will post more just getting started

[Leto]

Great. I will add them dude, give me some time.
He is posting some weird Krabat Jews, lol. 10% East Med is a lot for an East Slav on K15. Obviously mixed with something else.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He is posting some weird Krabat Jews, lol. 10% East Med is a lot for an East Slav on K15. Obviously mixed with something else.

Lol are these people real ?

[Cumansky]

He is posting some weird Krabat Jews, lol. 10% East Med is a lot for an East Slav on K15. Obviously mixed with something else.

Ok, let me look for East Slavs now time to expose..

You don't know what is East Med dumb fuckboy UkrjewboyNovoRusky

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Cumansky mate, when posting next kits post their unsorted values, it will be faster for me add them in such way.

[Leto]

Ok, let me look for East Slavs now time to expose..

You don't know what is East Med dumb fuckboy UkrjewboyNovoRusky
You're a retard, son. I have never attacked you, that was nothing personal.

[Cumansky]

Cumansky mate, when posting next kits post their unsorted values, it will be faster for me add them in such way.

0,0,22.22,0,0,etc like this?

[Blondie]

HUN1

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.63
2 North_Sea 19.59
3 Atlantic 17.92
4 Eastern_Euro 11.1
5 West_Med 9.75
6 East_Med 9.57
7 West_Asian 6.05
8 Red_Sea 1.49
9 Southeast_Asian 0.84
10 Amerindian 0.61
11 Siberian 0.29
12 Northeast_African 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.77
2 Hungarian 5.26
3 Moldavian 6.35
4 Austrian 6.7
5 Serbian 7.76
6 Romanian 9.5
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.59
8 South_Polish 9.82
9 East_German 10.05
10 Ukrainian 10.69
11 Bulgarian 11.79
12 Polish 12.33
13 Russian_Smolensk 13.15
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.13
15 Southwest_Russian 14.44
16 Belorussian 15.12
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.5
18 Estonian_Polish 15.53
19 Finnish 16.27
20 South_Dutch 16.62

This hungarian guy looks very slavic.

[Cumansky]

This hungarian guy looks very slavic.

IDK to be honest, he is top 50 close match for me

Not really he look Slavic, I think he is Szekely, he look Balkan and Slavic I post the rest of his family after..

[Cumansky]

I go for food and smoke break

When I come back I am posting only East Slavs..

[Leto]

Isn't he one of sockpuppets of a user who was posting fake GEDmatch results of various ethnic groups here and on Anthrogenica?

I know that this troll posted (from different accounts) for example fabricated "average of 20 Transvaal Boers" and also fake Acadians, among other things.

BTW Lukasz is apparently using some of these fake averages in his reports, believing that they are real.

No kit number = no evidence that this is a real person.
I usually post real people's results, not academic samples.

[Cumansky]

Isn't he one of sockpuppets of a user who was posting fake GEDmatch results of various ethnic groups here and on Anthrogenica?

I know that this troll posted (from different accounts) for example fabricated "average of 20 Transvaal Boers" and also fake Acadians, among other things.

BTW Lukasz is apparently using some of these fake averages in his reports, believing that they are real.

No kit number = no evidence that this is a real person.

I send Nato after kit # in PM he can confirm or send you but I not send you cause you clown

You think I am with endless time as you for these projects, I will go as far as faking GEDmatch you a clown

Any kits of concern, I will PM kit # Nato he can confirm any issues

[Leto]

That troll on Anthrogenica was posting invented results.

But they looked convincing. Just like these faces: :)

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com
Lol. What is that? Everytime I reload the page a new face appears. Do they all not exist?

[Cumansky]

I solve Leto Peterski games real quick..

No kit # for East Slavs only Surnames

Peterski kit will get posted also he is my distant cousin afterall

[Leto]

What is your problem? I barely interacted with you. If I'm a clown and you aren't then why did they ban you from Anthrogenica and not me?:

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?14534-South-Polish-(Galicia)-Eurogenes-K13-Results

^^^ And that was your 2nd account, your first account was called KingSlav:

https://anthrogenica.com/member.php?7723-Kingslav93
Mikhailo was also him, I believe. He has had a few sockpuppets there.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Zoom in for clearer view.

https://i.imgur.com/VPmQJgf.png

1 - Cumansky (South Polish)
2 - Cumansky Uncle (South Polish)
3 - Poland 1
4 - Hungary 1
5 - Poland 2
6 - Ukrainian 1 (Crimea)
7 - Poland 3
8 - Lithuanian 1 (Sabonis)

This Sabonis bruv ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvydas_Sabonis

Maybe cousin of the legend.

[Peterski]

Boers may have some black and even South(east) Asian blood but they are originally from the Netherlands.

That is not true, they have a lot of German and French ancestry as well, check this thread:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?212771-Ancestry-of-Afrikaners-(Boers)&p=1464784&viewfull=1#post1464784

(and unquote my post you previously quoted, we are deleting this off-topic discussion)

[Cumansky]

Zoom in for clearer view.

https://i.imgur.com/VPmQJgf.png

1 - Cumansky (South Polish)
2 - Cumansky Uncle (South Polish)
3 - Poland 1
4 - Hungary 1
5 - Poland 2
6 - Ukrainian 1 (Crimea)
7 - Poland 3
8 - Lithuanian 1 (Sabonis)

This Sabonis bruv ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvydas_Sabonis

Maybe cousin of the legend.

Yes, a female spelling Sabonyte (Sabonis)

Lithuanian

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

It's incredible to see some North Eastern Europeans with no East Med or West Asian admixture at all, makes me feel very wog.

[Leto]

It's incredible to see some North Eastern Europeans with no East Med or West Asian admixture at all, makes me feel very wog.
What is your East Med and West Asian percentage on K15?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

What is your East Med and West Asian percentage on K15?

West_Asian 9.64
East_Med 6.77

From what I gather, steppe Indo-Europeans carried loads of West Asian but no East Med, which is neolithic farmer admixture.

[Lucas]

West_Asian 9.64
East_Med 6.77

From what I gather, steppe Indo-Europeans carried loads of West Asian but no East Med, which is neolithic farmer admixture.

My father:)

North_Sea 21.05
Atlantic 18.79
Baltic 30.28
Eastern_Euro 20.15
West_Med 4.61
West_Asian 3.64
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.54
South_Asian 0.29
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.65


You can add him too.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/eRT1rww.png

9 - LukaszM Father (Polish)

[Leto]

My father:)

North_Sea 21.05
Atlantic 18.79
Baltic 30.28
Eastern_Euro 20.15
West_Med 4.61
West_Asian 3.64
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.54
South_Asian 0.29
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.65


You can add him too.
30% Baltic and 20% EE. Your father is really Slavic.

[Leto]

West_Asian 9.64
East_Med 6.77

From what I gather, steppe Indo-Europeans carried loads of West Asian but no East Med, which is neolithic farmer admixture.
6% is the average for Croatia. So you're a pure Purger whatever that means, lol ;)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

6% is the average for Croatia. So you're a pure Purger whatever that means, lol ;)

It means native Zagrebian :)

Thread about it: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273778-who-is-a-Purger-(and-what-it-means)

[Lucas]

30% Baltic and 20% EE. Your father is really Slavic.

Mother is little East-Med infected though. Add her too. But she will plot very Slavic anyway.

North_Sea 22.56 Pct
Atlantic 13.60 Pct
Baltic 27.09 Pct
Eastern_Euro 20.60 Pct
West_Med 6.78 Pct
West_Asian 3.54 Pct
East_Med 3.24 Pct
Red_Sea 1.03 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.34 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[Leto]

It means native Zagrebian :)

Thread about it: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273778-who-is-a-Purger-(and-what-it-means)
Cool. I admire long-standing communities and people with deeper roots in a particular city or region. These days it's becoming increasingly rarer. I am quite mixed regionally myself. So even your grandparents are natives of Zagreb?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/Xnt7t4E.png

10 - LukaszM Mother (Polish)

[Leto]

Mother is little East-Med infected though. Add her too. But she will plot very Slavic anyway.

North_Sea 22.56 Pct
Atlantic 13.60 Pct
Baltic 27.09 Pct
Eastern_Euro 20.60 Pct
West_Med 6.78 Pct
West_Asian 3.54 Pct
East_Med 3.24 Pct
Red_Sea 1.03 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.34 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Well, even my mom is camel jockey infected for some damn reason. I must admit I hate that Red Sea percentage. I think I told you about it some time ago. 1% is no big deal but 2.4% on K13 and 1.6% on K15 is a little bit too much to my taste.

[Lucas]

This will be interesting. My daughter, I predict closer to Balkans:)

North_Sea 16.77 Pct
Atlantic 18.22 Pct
Baltic 28.68 Pct
Eastern_Euro 18.72 Pct
West_Med 8.03 Pct
West_Asian 6.16 Pct
East_Med 2.92 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.28 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.21 Pct

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Cool. I admire long-standing communities and people with deeper roots in a particular city or region. These days it's becoming increasingly rarer. I am quite mixed regionally myself. So even your grandparents are natives of Zagreb?

Yes mate, I am pure Purger even though I am not pure Croat. All my ancestors live at least 5 generations in Zagreb, some for centuries. Deeply-rooted natives of the city are 10-20% of Zagreb population today I would say.

[Lucas]

Well, even my mom is camel jockey infected for some damn reason. I must admit I hate that Red Sea percentage. I think I told you about it some time ago. 1% is no big deal but 2.4% on K13 and 1.6% on K15 is a little bit too much to my taste.

I hate it too. My father had 0,5, mother 1% but me for some reason fucking 2% :) Yemenite(?) infection from the air. But my daughter is free of it:)

[Peterski]

CumanskyUncle

Why is he not on GEDmatch?

You sent me your kit before so I looked it up, and you have no uncles there (just your own kit).

[Cumansky]

I hate it too. My father had 0,5, mother 1% but me for some reason fucking 2% :) Negroid infection from the air.

I got 0%..Red Sea

[Lucas]

Nato, I think you missed this post.



This will be interesting. My daughter, I predict closer to Balkans

North_Sea 16.77 Pct
Atlantic 18.22 Pct
Baltic 28.68 Pct
Eastern_Euro 18.72 Pct
West_Med 8.03 Pct
West_Asian 6.16 Pct
East_Med 2.92 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.28 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.21 Pct

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/JkYkJ0C.png

11 - LukaszM Daughter (Polish)

colored in red because it's getting tight there, for better visibility.

[Leto]

I hate it too. My father had 0,5, mother 1% but me for some reason fucking 2% :) Yemenite(?) infection from the air. But my daughter is free of it:)
Good for her. I also got even more than my mom. No idea where it may have come from. Western Kirov oblast was like 99% Russian when my grandparents were born and also it is very rural and forested.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Lucas, you daughter was added, she looks pretty Slavic to me.

[Lucas]

Lucas, you daughter was added, she looks pretty Slavic to me.

11 - LukaszM Daughter (Polish)

colores in red because it's getting tight there, for better visibility.

Interesting so she is still south Polish here. On K36 she is more West Balkan shifted.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Well, even my mom is camel jockey infected for some damn reason. I must admit I hate that Red Sea percentage. I think I told you about it some time ago. 1% is no big deal but 2.4% on K13 and 1.6% on K15 is a little bit too much to my taste.

Lol guys, it's funny to see you discussing these minor admixtures when you're all genetically whiter than 95% of the planet.

[Leto]

Me and my family are here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273405-2019-Apricity-PCA&p=5728910&viewfull=1#post5728910

[Ford]

Got any more Hungarian samples? I'm pretty close to Hungarian 1.

[Lucas]

Nato, I think you can zoom on Central and East Europe for better visibility as this PCA is only for this area. We don't need here non Euro parts.

[Leto]

Lol guys, it's funny to see you discussing these minor admixtures when you're all genetically whiter than 95% of the planet.
Well, maybe not 95% but I'd say at least 85% of the planet. :)

[Lucas]

Me and my family are here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273405-2019-Apricity-PCA&p=5728910&viewfull=1#post5728910

I think adding Not a Cop and his grandpas would be good for more Russian vibe on this PCA.



PGM

North_Sea 25.58
Atlantic 13.14
Baltic 26.78
Eastern_Euro 25.15
West_Med 1.83
West_Asian 1.87
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.46
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 3.55
Amerindian 0.37
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.26

PGF

1 North_Sea 28.89
2 Baltic 21.27
3 Atlantic 20.99
4 Eastern_Euro 14.03
5 West_Asian 6.29
6 West_Med 5.77
7 South_Asian 1.85
8 Amerindian 0.33
9 East_Med 0.31
10 Siberian 0.27

MGF

1 Baltic 27.98
2 Eastern_Euro 21.16
3 North_Sea 20.17
4 Atlantic 14.68
5 West_Med 5.37
6 West_Asian 5
7 Red_Sea 1.67
8 Siberian 1.51
9 Amerindian 1.35
10 Oceanian 1.1
11 East_Med 0.01

MGM

North_Sea 19.29
Atlantic 17.01
Baltic 30.97
Eastern_Euro 17.88
West_Med 2.74
West_Asian 7.50
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.80
South_Asian 1.80
Southeast_Asian 0.19
Siberian 0.35
Amerindian 0.27
Oceanian 1.20
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


ME (Not a Cop)

North_Sea 25.39
Atlantic 13.11
Baltic 26.16
Eastern_Euro 20.41
West_Med 2.46
West_Asian 7.30
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.06
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.68
Amerindian 1.71
Oceanian 0.60
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.14

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Nato, I think you can zoom on Central and East Europe for better visibility as this PCA is only for this area. We don't need here non Euro parts.

I can do that when PCA is finished. I must keep entire photo because cordinates get fucked up if you cut the picture.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I think adding Not a Cop and his grandpas would be good for more Russian vibe on this PCA.

Will do, but which are Russian which German ? It would be useful to know so I can properly label them. He's partly Baltic German.

[Lucas]

Will do, but which are Russian which German ? It would be useful to know so I can properly label them. He's partly Baltic German.

I don't think any will be in West Euro cluster, don't worry.

[Leto]

My brother-in-law. A mix of Central, Western and Northern/North-Central Russians. Phenotypically more Nordic/Corded Ware type than Baltic (elongated face, thin nose, etc.).

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.19
2 Eastern_Euro 21.51
3 North_Sea 20.15
4 Atlantic 17.8
5 West_Med 6.51
6 West_Asian 4.28
7 Siberian 2.83
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 Amerindian 1.3
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 5.5
2 South_Polish 5.79
3 Ukrainian 6.44
4 Russian_Smolensk 6.77
5 Southwest_Russian 7.01
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.39
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.54
8 Kargopol_Russian 7.54
9 Estonian_Polish 7.59
10 Belorussian 8.41
11 East_Finnish 8.83
12 Croatian 9.29
13 Estonian 9.31
14 Finnish 10.09
15 Southwest_Finnish 10.43
16 Erzya 11.02
17 Moldavian 11.35
18 Hungarian 11.5
19 Lithuanian 12.1
20 East_German 12.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.7% Polish + 21.3% Tatar @ 2.91
2 63% Kargopol_Russian + 37% East_German @ 2.98
3 52.7% Erzya + 47.3% East_German @ 3.13
4 85.2% Polish + 14.8% Chuvash @ 3.19
5 88% Polish + 12% Mari @ 3.22
6 92.2% Polish + 7.8% Shors @ 3.33
7 93.8% Polish + 6.2% Selkup @ 3.34
8 93.7% Polish + 6.3% Ket @ 3.4
9 87.6% South_Polish + 12.4% Mari @ 3.52
10 84.9% South_Polish + 15.1% Chuvash @ 3.55
11 92.9% Polish + 7.1% Hakas @ 3.56
12 64.1% Kargopol_Russian + 35.9% Austrian @ 3.63
13 95% Polish + 5% Chukchi @ 3.75
14 59.8% South_Polish + 40.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.77
15 95.2% Polish + 4.8% Koryak @ 3.79
16 66.4% Erzya + 33.6% South_Dutch @ 3.84
17 78.4% Kargopol_Russian + 21.6% French @ 3.85
18 94.6% Polish + 5.4% Saqqaq @ 3.86
19 81.7% Kargopol_Russian + 18.3% Southwest_French @ 3.87
20 75.9% Kargopol_Russian + 24.1% South_Dutch @ 3.87

[Leto]

Also, add these two. They are quite pure Balto-Slavs. They're unmixed ethnic Russians from rural places. Just title them as Pskov and Kursk
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278069-Southwest-Russian-GEDmatch
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?246872-Northwest-Russian-GEDmatch

[Cumansky]

Yugoslav (Momcilovic)

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 20.77
2 Baltic 19.05
3 West_Asian 15.69
4 Atlantic 12.98
5 Eastern_Euro 12.06
6 East_Med 10.13
7 West_Med 9.25
8 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.94
2 Romanian 8.53
3 Serbian 8.99
4 Hungarian 10.11
5 Croatian 10.45
6 Bulgarian 10.98
7 Austrian 12.3
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14
9 East_German 14.26
10 South_Polish 14.74
11 Ukrainian 15.15
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.26
14 Polish 17.74
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.09
16 Southwest_Russian 18.16
17 West_German 18.73
18 Greek 18.97
19 South_Dutch 19.54
20 Southwest_Finnish 20.02

[Lucas]

This is mostly from Spiš area (Carpathian mountains Polish/Slovak border).

North_Sea 21.18
Atlantic 14.24
Baltic 26.20
Eastern_Euro 20.34
West_Med 10.92
West_Asian 4.00
East_Med 2.04
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.39
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.69

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I don't think any will be in West Euro cluster, don't worry.

https://i.imgur.com/jZlovAn.png

12 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandmother (Russian)
13 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandfather (half Baltic German, half Russian and Polish)
14 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandfather (Russian)
15 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandmother (Russian)
16 - Not a Cop (Russian)

kit no. 13 must be Baltic German, he is close to Czechs. That's impossible for full Russian I'm pretty sure.

[Peterski]

Add the following five samples from Wielkopolska region, all my family:

Wlkp1 - Abscisse (x-axis): 415 pixel, Ordonnée (y-axis): 119 pixel
Wlkp2 - Abscisse (x-axis): 403 pixel, Ordonnée (y-axis): 143 pixel
Wlkp3 - Abscisse (x-axis): 426 pixel, Ordonnée (y-axis): 121 pixel
Wlkp4 - Abscisse (x-axis): 406 pixel, Ordonnée (y-axis): 133 pixel
Wlkp5 - Abscisse (x-axis): 399 pixel, Ordonnée (y-axis): 103 pixel

Later I will post some more, non-relatives.

[Lucas]

https://i.imgur.com/jZlovAn.png

12 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandmother (Russian)
13 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandfather (Baltic German) * - need confirmation
14 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandfather (Russian)
15 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandmother (Russian)
16 - Not a Cop (Russian)

kit no. 13 must be Baltic German, he is close to Czechs. That's impossible for full Russian I'm pretty sure.

Yes, he is this Baltic German grandparent. Anyway 12 is exactly as Finnish dot, interesting.

[Peterski]

Anyway 12 is exactly as Finnish dot, interesting.

I think this tool suffers from some projection bias (?).

I remember before the update (when it was just West Eurasia, not the whole World), coordinates were a bit different for the same K15 results.

Do you remember that old version without Africa etc.?

[Lemgrant]

Me (From Ukraine). Father is probably Mordvin/Russian/Finnic. Mordvins are genetically close to Estonians/Latvians/Lithuanians and that's probably why AncestryDNA claims that I am from Lithuania. or maybe he has ancestry from Baltic States, I don't know.

Population
North_Sea 20.15
Atlantic 16.31
Baltic 28.15
Eastern_Euro 20.87
West_Med 6.94
West_Asian 3.10
East_Med 1.45
Red_Sea 0.10
South_Asian 0.68
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.66
Amerindian 1.47
Oceanian 0.10
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

https://i.imgur.com/Axq1Z2v.jpg

[Leto]

Yes, he is this Baltic German grandparent. Anyway 12 is exactly as Finnish dot, interesting.
His grandfather is half Baltic German and half NW Russian/Eastern Polish. His grandmother (13) is from Leningrad and Tver oblasts, so very Northwestern too.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/EenABkf.png

17 - Leto Brother In Law (Russian)

colored in red.

[Lucas]

I think this tool suffers from some projection bias (?).

I remember before the update (when it was just West Eurasia, not the whole World), coordinates were a bit different for the same K15 results.

Do you remember that old version without Africa etc.?

Yes, it was without. My father was more eastern I remember.

[Lucas]

I think this tool suffers from some projection bias (?).

I remember before the update (when it was just West Eurasia, not the whole World), coordinates were a bit different for the same K15 results.

Do you remember that old version without Africa etc.?

Tolan forced this tool to have clusters in exact geographical directions. In PAST it is not the case (and it is correct behaviour as PCA composition is random, just Lemgrant posted above academic plots wehre NE-Europe is in left upper corner for example).
This is why.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/DiWaEqF.png

18 - Kursk (Russian)
19 - Pskov (Russian)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/KbuiaJp.png

20 - Momčilović (Serb)

It's typical Serbian surname, and he plots like Serb.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/zFV4qwt.png

Greater Poland samples added ( bright Green), unnumbered, so there can remain more space.

[Peterski]

Greater Poland samples added (bright Green)

Northern-plotting one (shifted towards North Sweden) is my cousin.

In DNA Land you could see that his Southern Euro score is very low.

Who is 13 and 9 - are they from Cumansky?

[dimadoe]

My dad, 3 grandparents from around Moscow, 1 from Eastern Ukraine

North_Sea 21.03
Atlantic 11.83
Baltic 29.36
Eastern_Euro 23.47
West_Med 4.31
West_Asian 6.00
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.26
Southeast_Asian 1.05
Siberian 1.17
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.52

[Cumansky]

https://i.imgur.com/KbuiaJp.png

20 - Momčilović (Serb)

It's typical Serbian surname, and he plots like Serb.

From what region Serb get this result?

Momcilovic

K15

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 20.77
2 Baltic 19.05
3 West_Asian 15.69
4 Atlantic 12.98
5 Eastern_Euro 12.06
6 East_Med 10.13
7 West_Med 9.25
8 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.94
2 Romanian 8.53
3 Serbian 8.99
4 Hungarian 10.11
5 Croatian 10.45
6 Bulgarian 10.98
7 Austrian 12.3
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14
9 East_German 14.26
10 South_Polish 14.74
11 Ukrainian 15.15
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.26
14 Polish 17.74
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.09
16 Southwest_Russian 18.16
17 West_German 18.73
18 Greek 18.97
19 South_Dutch 19.54
20 Southwest_Finnish 20.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.1% Hungarian + 17.9% Abhkasian @ 3.38
2 80.9% Hungarian + 19.1% Georgian @ 3.42
3 78.5% Hungarian + 21.5% Adygei @ 3.68
4 79.4% Hungarian + 20.6% North_Ossetian @ 3.93
5 76.1% Hungarian + 23.9% Kumyk @ 3.95
6 76.9% Hungarian + 23.1% Lezgin @ 4.02
7 77.7% Hungarian + 22.3% Kabardin @ 4.07
8 78.3% Hungarian + 21.7% Balkar @ 4.09
9 79.8% Hungarian + 20.2% Ossetian @ 4.15
10 77.9% Hungarian + 22.1% Chechen @ 4.18
11 86.2% Moldavian + 13.8% Georgian @ 4.66
12 77.1% Hungarian + 22.9% Tabassaran @ 4.66
13 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% Abhkasian @ 4.74
14 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Ossetian @ 4.96
15 85.3% Moldavian + 14.7% North_Ossetian @ 4.99
16 84.8% Moldavian + 15.2% Adygei @ 5.01
17 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% Tabassaran @ 5.05
18 83.4% Moldavian + 16.6% Lezgin @ 5.06
19 82.8% Moldavian + 17.2% Kumyk @ 5.06
20 73% South_Polish + 27% Armenian @ 5.07

[Cumansky]

Croatian (Horvatich)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 21.6
2 Baltic 21.07
3 North_Sea 18.48
4 Eastern_Euro 14.02
5 East_Med 8.28
6 West_Med 7.67
7 West_Asian 5.94
8 Amerindian 1.09
9 South_Asian 0.63
10 Northeast_African 0.62
11 Red_Sea 0.33
12 Sub-Saharan 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 4.01
2 Croatian 5.05
3 Hungarian 6.6
4 Moldavian 8.18
5 Serbian 8.79
6 East_German 9.24
7 South_Polish 9.32
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.53
9 Polish 11.02
10 Ukrainian 11.05
11 Romanian 11.36
12 Russian_Smolensk 11.77
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.16
14 Southwest_Russian 13.33
15 Bulgarian 13.6
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.71
17 Belorussian 14.06
18 Estonian_Polish 14.23
19 Finnish 15.27
20 South_Dutch 15.66

[Lucas]

This is mostly from Spiš area (Carpathian mountains Polish/Slovak border).

North_Sea 21.18
Atlantic 14.24
Baltic 26.20
Eastern_Euro 20.34
West_Med 10.92
West_Asian 4.00
East_Med 2.04
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.39
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.69

Can you?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/YZaxRVO.png

21 - Spis (Slovak )

[Cumansky]

Northern-plotting one (shifted towards North Sweden) is my cousin.

In DNA Land you could see that his Southern Euro score is very low.

Who is 13 and 9 - are they from Cumansky?

9 LukaszM Father

13 Baltic German from Russia

[Lucas]

https://i.imgur.com/YZaxRVO.png

21 - Spis (Polish or Slovak ? )

Rather more Slovak.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/ea4e3Oy.png

22 - Lemgrant (Ukraine)

Greater Polish samples recolored to Purple-Red for better visibility.

[Leto]

My dad, 3 grandparents from around Moscow, 1 from Eastern Ukraine

North_Sea 21.03
Atlantic 11.83
Baltic 29.36
Eastern_Euro 23.47
West_Med 4.31
West_Asian 6.00
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.26
Southeast_Asian 1.05
Siberian 1.17
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.52
Isn't he partially from Tula oblast? It's a bit more Southeastern than Moscow.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/7jDkTSS.png

23- Dimadoe Father (Russian)

[Cumansky]

PL4

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.42
2 Atlantic 22.05
3 Eastern_Euro 21.71
4 North_Sea 14.76
5 West_Med 4.76
6 West_Asian 1.47
7 East_Med 1.06
8 Sub-Saharan 0.76

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian_Polish 5.49
2 Belorussian 5.95
3 Russian_Smolensk 6.17
4 Lithuanian 7.93
5 Southwest_Russian 8.19
6 Polish 8.51
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.7
8 South_Polish 10.48
9 Ukrainian 11.78
10 Estonian 12.05
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.54
12 Kargopol_Russian 12.74
13 Croatian 14.45
14 Erzya 14.51
15 East_Finnish 16.79
16 Austrian 17.67
17 Moldavian 17.67
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.68
19 La_Brana-1 17.73
20 Finnish 17.84

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I'll do the rest (posted until now) and than go to bed. Have important exam Tuesday, need to get proper rest before tomorrow.

[Leto]

Norka (1/4 Crimean Tatar, 3/4 Northern/Ural Russian). He is more like quarter Volga Tatar than Crimean, Crimeans have more wog ancestry while Volgans have a lot of Finno-Ugric blood.

Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.92
2 Eastern_Euro 23.46
3 Atlantic 16.57
4 North_Sea 15.15
5 Siberian 6.91
6 West_Asian 5.47
7 West_Med 3.09
8 East_Med 1.3
9 Southeast_Asian 0.67
10 Oceanian 0.66
11 Amerindian 0.56
12 Northeast_African 0.23
13 Red_Sea

[Cumansky]

PL4

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.42
2 Atlantic 22.05
3 Eastern_Euro 21.71
4 North_Sea 14.76
5 West_Med 4.76
6 West_Asian 1.47
7 East_Med 1.06
8 Sub-Saharan 0.76

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian_Polish 5.49
2 Belorussian 5.95
3 Russian_Smolensk 6.17
4 Lithuanian 7.93
5 Southwest_Russian 8.19
6 Polish 8.51
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.7
8 South_Polish 10.48
9 Ukrainian 11.78
10 Estonian 12.05
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.54
12 Kargopol_Russian 12.74
13 Croatian 14.45
14 Erzya 14.51
15 East_Finnish 16.79
16 Austrian 17.67
17 Moldavian 17.67
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.68
19 La_Brana-1 17.73
20 Finnish 17.84

I can tell this one from my mother side

Almost pure Cossacks

[dimadoe]

Isn't he partially from Tula oblast? It's a bit more Southeastern than Moscow.

Looks like it's right below it. The city Tula is 70km from Moscow Oblast, I don't know if that's far or not. And I don't know where one of his grandmas was from, he just said "around Moscow".

[Leto]

Looks like it's right below it. The city Tula is 70km from Moscow Oblast, I don't know if that's far or not. And I don't know where one of his grandmas was from, he just said "around Moscow".
Russia is a huge-ass country. Moscow oblast has the size of a country like Switzerland or Estonia. But I got you.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/hRGD5qq.png

Leto's Family (Russian, Belarusian) added in brown color, unnmbered.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/VtqT99q.png

24 - Croatian (Horvatić)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/bOsXF1y.png

25 - Polish , colored in green
26 - Norka (Russian, Tatar Crimea)

That's it for today guys. You can use my PCA and add kits yourself if you want. See you later if God wills it.

[Cumansky]

Thanks Nato, very interesting to breakdown this data

[Cumansky]

I add later UKR, BLR, RUS, FINN, LAT

[Cumansky]

Got any more Hungarian samples? I'm pretty close to Hungarian 1.

Do you know what region in Serbia get this result as 20?

Post #84 his GEDmatch

[Cumansky]

PL5

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 28.15
2 Baltic 22.75
3 Eastern_Euro 16.34
4 Atlantic 15.23
5 West_Med 6.19
6 East_Med 4.9
7 West_Asian 4.24
8 Northeast_African 0.82
9 Oceanian 0.64
10 Amerindian 0.45
11 Sub-Saharan 0.2
12 South_Asian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.87
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.15
3 Ukrainian 7.25
4 South_Polish 7.36
5 East_German 8.74
6 Finnish 8.76
7 Polish 8.93
8 Southwest_Finnish 8.97
9 Croatian 9.74
10 Estonian 10.39
11 Moldavian 10.62
12 Austrian 11.17
13 Russian_Smolensk 11.97
14 East_Finnish 11.99
15 North_Swedish 12.02
16 Southwest_Russian 12.03
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.29
18 Belorussian 12.71
19 Estonian_Polish 13.29
20 Serbian 14.23

[Cumansky]

PL6

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.21
2 Eastern_Euro 20.48
3 North_Sea 19.5
4 Atlantic 17.74
5 West_Med 5.97
6 West_Asian 4.31
7 South_Asian 1.18
8 Red_Sea 1.06
9 Amerindian 0.47
10 East_Med 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 2.7
2 Polish 3.07
3 Estonian_Polish 3.66
4 Belorussian 4.15
5 South_Polish 4.29
6 Southwest_Russian 4.41
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.64
8 Ukrainian 5.43
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.23
10 Lithuanian 7.68
11 Estonian 8.17
12 Kargopol_Russian 9.55
13 Croatian 9.97
14 Erzya 11.95
15 East_Finnish 12.5
16 Moldavian 12.55
17 Finnish 12.88
18 Hungarian 13.04
19 Southwest_Finnish 13.18
20 Austrian 14.05

[Cumansky]

PL7

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.36
2 Eastern_Euro 20.47
3 Atlantic 19.63
4 North_Sea 16.64
5 West_Med 7.51
6 West_Asian 5.01
7 East_Med 0.59
8 South_Asian 0.59
9 Northeast_African 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 3.68
2 Estonian_Polish 5.08
3 Polish 5.39
4 Belorussian 5.87
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.91
6 Southwest_Russian 6.03
7 South_Polish 6.03
8 Ukrainian 7.51
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.2
10 Lithuanian 9.34
11 Croatian 9.59
12 Kargopol_Russian 10.98
13 Estonian 11.11
14 Moldavian 12.59
15 Erzya 13.16
16 Austrian 13.68
17 Hungarian 13.77
18 East_Finnish 14.55
19 East_German 14.91
20 Southwest_Finnish 15.05

[Cumansky]

PL8

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.03
2 Eastern_Euro 22.93
3 North_Sea 22.12
4 Atlantic 16.09
5 West_Med 5.38
6 East_Med 3.82
7 South_Asian 1.2
8 West_Asian 1.14
9 Siberian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 4.41
2 Ukrainian 5.33
3 South_Polish 5.58
4 Southwest_Russian 5.62
5 Estonian_Polish 5.9
6 Belorussian 6.1
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.17
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.62
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.99
10 Estonian 7.11
11 Kargopol_Russian 8.1
12 Lithuanian 9.33
13 East_Finnish 10.03
14 Croatian 10.79
15 Erzya 10.85
16 Finnish 10.89
17 Southwest_Finnish 11.67
18 Hungarian 12.49
19 Moldavian 12.73
20 East_German 14.17

[Cumansky]

BLG1 (Northwest)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 17.69
2 North_Sea 16.52
3 East_Med 16.05
4 Eastern_Euro 14.01
5 West_Med 13.14
6 Atlantic 10.71
7 West_Asian 9.49
8 Red_Sea 2.31
9 South_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.33
2 Bulgarian 7.15
3 Serbian 7.4
4 Moldavian 8.88
5 Croatian 11.82
6 Greek_Thessaly 11.92
7 Hungarian 12.6
8 Greek 13.57
9 Austrian 14.35
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.41
11 Ukrainian 17.2
12 South_Polish 17.45
13 Ashkenazi 17.5
14 East_German 17.58
15 Tuscan 17.65
16 Central_Greek 18.3
17 Italian_Abruzzo 18.41
18 North_Italian 18.65
19 East_Sicilian 19.32
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.59

[Cumansky]

HUN2 (Vlado?)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.05
2 Atlantic 15.89
3 North_Sea 14.91
4 Eastern_Euro 13.91
5 East_Med 11.13
6 West_Med 9.95
7 West_Asian 5.6
8 Red_Sea 2.99
9 Siberian 0.31
10 Northeast_African 0.21
11 Amerindian 0.03
12 Sub-Saharan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.11
2 Moldavian 6.92
3 Serbian 9.92
4 Hungarian 9.93
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.25
6 Romanian 10.49
7 Austrian 10.61
8 South_Polish 10.65
9 Ukrainian 11.17
10 Bulgarian 11.67
11 Russian_Smolensk 12.23
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.71
13 Polish 12.83
14 Southwest_Russian 13.18
15 Belorussian 14.17
16 Estonian_Polish 14.37
17 East_German 14.68
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.14
19 Lithuanian 17.28
20 Estonian 17.89

[Cumansky]

UKR2

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.29
2 North_Sea 24.03
3 Eastern_Euro 19.45
4 Atlantic 10.78
5 West_Med 5.4
6 Siberian 3.87
7 East_Med 3.25
8 West_Asian 2.84
9 South_Asian 1.78
10 Red_Sea 1.78
11 Amerindian 1.05
12 Southeast_Asian 0.29
13 Sub-Saharan 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 5.95
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.28
3 South_Polish 7.72
4 East_Finnish 8.6
5 Estonian 8.65
6 Polish 8.78
7 Southwest_Russian 8.96
8 Kargopol_Russian 9
9 Finnish 9.15
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.52
11 Russian_Smolensk 10.22
12 Belorussian 10.55
13 Estonian_Polish 10.67
14 Erzya 11.06
15 Moldavian 11.33
16 Croatian 11.35
17 Hungarian 11.43
18 Southwest_Finnish 11.8
19 Lithuanian 12.57
20 East_German 14.27

[Cumansky]

RUS1

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.71
2 Eastern_Euro 21.99
3 North_Sea 19.74
4 Atlantic 14.85
5 Siberian 3.77
6 West_Asian 3.32
7 Red_Sea 2.77
8 West_Med 2.29
9 South_Asian 1.65
10 Amerindian 0.82
11 Southeast_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 5.1
2 Estonian_Polish 5.91
3 Kargopol_Russian 5.97
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.04
5 Belorussian 6.16
6 Russian_Smolensk 6.23
7 Polish 7.01
8 Estonian 7.22
9 Ukrainian 7.94
10 South_Polish 7.96
11 Erzya 8.23
12 Lithuanian 8.38
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.51
14 East_Finnish 9.22
15 Finnish 11.38
16 Croatian 13.16
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.26
18 Moldavian 14.64
19 Hungarian 15.36
20 La_Brana-1 15.87

[Cumansky]

RUS2

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.4
2 Eastern_Euro 22.04
3 North_Sea 21.12
4 Atlantic 13.97
5 West_Med 6.22
6 West_Asian 6.14
7 Siberian 2.19
8 Amerindian 0.42
9 Southeast_Asian 0.37
10 Red_Sea 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 4.94
2 Southwest_Russian 5.07
3 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.22
4 South_Polish 5.56
5 Polish 5.92
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.07
7 Russian_Smolensk 6.31
8 Estonian_Polish 6.9
9 Belorussian 7.29
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.44
11 Estonian 8.36
12 Erzya 9.32
13 Lithuanian 9.85
14 East_Finnish 10.15
15 Croatian 10.64
16 Finnish 11.46
17 Moldavian 11.71
18 Hungarian 12.96
19 Southwest_Finnish 12.97
20 East_German 14.65

[Cumansky]

RUS3

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.66
2 North_Sea 21.81
3 Eastern_Euro 21.16
4 Atlantic 12.87
5 East_Med 8.57
6 West_Med 5.91
7 Siberian 2.23
8 West_Asian 0.51
9 Oceanian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 6.81
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.7
3 South_Polish 7.97
4 Southwest_Russian 8.3
5 Polish 8.54
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.08
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.39
8 Belorussian 9.45
9 Estonian_Polish 9.73
10 Kargopol_Russian 9.96
11 Estonian 10
12 Croatian 10.77
13 East_Finnish 11.26
14 Moldavian 11.51
15 Erzya 11.71
16 Lithuanian 11.89
17 Hungarian 11.93
18 Finnish 12.19
19 Southwest_Finnish 13.73
20 Austrian 14.69

[Cumansky]

RUS4

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.59
2 North_Sea 21.15
3 Eastern_Euro 19.07
4 Atlantic 15.58
5 West_Asian 6.4
6 West_Med 5.77
7 East_Med 3.05
8 Southeast_Asian 1.73
9 Red_Sea 1.19
10 Amerindian 0.27
11 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 3.22
2 Ukrainian 4.03
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.16
4 Polish 5.15
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.86
6 Russian_Smolensk 6.12
7 Southwest_Russian 6.16
8 Croatian 7.24
9 Belorussian 7.81
10 Estonian_Polish 8
11 Moldavian 8.81
12 Hungarian 9.36
13 Estonian 9.59
14 Kargopol_Russian 10.35
15 Lithuanian 11.26
16 Finnish 11.46
17 Austrian 11.47
18 East_Finnish 11.78
19 East_German 11.79
20 Southwest_Finnish 12.07

[Cumansky]

Montenegrin (Podgorica)

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 18.28
2 Baltic 17.49
3 West_Med 15.86
4 Atlantic 13.57
5 East_Med 12.69
6 Eastern_Euro 12.43
7 West_Asian 5.61
8 Red_Sea 3.12
9 Northeast_African 0.96

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.96
2 Romanian 7.15
3 Moldavian 8.23
4 Bulgarian 8.72
5 Croatian 9.96
6 Hungarian 10.02
7 Austrian 11.75
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.48
9 East_German 14.11
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.03
11 Greek 15.41
12 Ukrainian 15.75
13 North_Italian 15.76
14 South_Polish 15.95
15 Tuscan 16.68
16 Spanish_Galicia 17.48
17 French 17.49
18 West_German 18.26
19 Portuguese 18.29
20 Polish 18.44

[Leto]

Where are these Russians from? Especially this one. 8% East Med on K15 is too much for an unmixed Russian. Maybe 1/4 Jewish?

RUS3

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.66
2 North_Sea 21.81
3 Eastern_Euro 21.16
4 Atlantic 12.87
5 East_Med 8.57
6 West_Med 5.91
7 Siberian 2.23
8 West_Asian 0.51
9 Oceanian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 6.81
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.7
3 South_Polish 7.97
4 Southwest_Russian 8.3
5 Polish 8.54
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.08
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.39
8 Belorussian 9.45
9 Estonian_Polish 9.73
10 Kargopol_Russian 9.96
11 Estonian 10
12 Croatian 10.77
13 East_Finnish 11.26
14 Moldavian 11.51
15 Erzya 11.71
16 Lithuanian 11.89
17 Hungarian 11.93
18 Finnish 12.19
19 Southwest_Finnish 13.73
20 Austrian 14.69

[Mingle]

How did you find so many GEDmatch kits, Cumansky?

[Leto]

@Nato, add Arhat please. 1/4 Afghan/Pashtun from Kabul, 3/4 Southern Russian, Eastern Ukrainian

Population
North_Sea 15.32 Pct
Atlantic 15.35 Pct
Baltic 25.49 Pct
Eastern_Euro 18.49 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 8.78 Pct
East_Med 5.24 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 8.00 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.55 Pct
Siberian 0.57 Pct
Amerindian 0.92 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.29 Pct

[Leto]

silentkiller (half Central Russian, 1/4 Belorussian, 1/4 Russian from Siberia)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.6
2 North_Sea 23.87
3 Eastern_Euro 18.13
4 Atlantic 11.08
5 West_Med 6.65
6 Siberian 2.89
7 West_Asian 2.86
8 East_Med 1.54
9 Amerindian 1.36
10 South_Asian 0.75
11 Oceanian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 5.27
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.69
3 South_Polish 7.34
4 Estonian 7.38
5 Polish 8.03
6 Southwest_Russian 8.2
7 Belorussian 8.66
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.77
9 Russian_Smolensk 9.04
10 Estonian_Polish 9.11
11 Lithuanian 9.17
12 Kargopol_Russian 10.82
13 Finnish 11.61
14 East_Finnish 11.83
15 Erzya 12.21
16 Croatian 12.43
17 Moldavian 13.13
18 Hungarian 13.38
19 Southwest_Finnish 13.88
20 East_German 15.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 37.2% Estonian @ 4.52
2 69.1% Ukrainian + 30.9% Estonian @ 4.59
3 77.2% Ukrainian + 22.8% Lithuanian @ 4.73
4 72.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.9% Lithuanian @ 4.83
5 97.9% Ukrainian + 2.1% Dolgan @ 4.95
6 98.1% Ukrainian + 1.9% Evens @ 4.96
7 98.1% Ukrainian + 1.9% Evenki @ 4.96
8 97.8% Ukrainian + 2.2% Koryak @ 4.97
9 97.8% Ukrainian + 2.2% Chukchi @ 4.97
10 97.7% Ukrainian + 2.3% Saqqaq @ 5
11 98.1% Ukrainian + 1.9% Yakut @ 5
12 97.6% Ukrainian + 2.4% Ket @ 5.02
13 80.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 19.4% Erzya @ 5.02
14 97.7% Ukrainian + 2.3% Selkup @ 5.03
15 87.9% Ukrainian + 12.1% Erzya @ 5.04
16 98.1% Ukrainian + 1.9% East_Greenlander @ 5.05
17 97.8% Ukrainian + 2.2% West_Greenlander @ 5.06
18 98.3% Ukrainian + 1.7% Oroqen @ 5.07
19 98.3% Ukrainian + 1.7% Tuvinian @ 5.13
20 98.4% Ukrainian + 1.6% Buryat @ 5.13

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

HUN2 (Vlado?)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.05
2 Atlantic 15.89
3 North_Sea 14.91
4 Eastern_Euro 13.91
5 East_Med 11.13
6 West_Med 9.95
7 West_Asian 5.6
8 Red_Sea 2.99
9 Siberian 0.31
10 Northeast_African 0.21
11 Amerindian 0.03
12 Sub-Saharan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.11
2 Moldavian 6.92
3 Serbian 9.92
4 Hungarian 9.93
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.25
6 Romanian 10.49
7 Austrian 10.61
8 South_Polish 10.65
9 Ukrainian 11.17
10 Bulgarian 11.67
11 Russian_Smolensk 12.23
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.71
13 Polish 12.83
14 Southwest_Russian 13.18
15 Belorussian 14.17
16 Estonian_Polish 14.37
17 East_German 14.68
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.14
19 Lithuanian 17.28
20 Estonian 17.89

Man, I wouldn't add this sample until you check it. Vlado (Vladimir) is Croatian and Serbian name, this guy surely isn't full Hungarian. It's also Russian name but obviously he is South Slav most probably.
Maybe he is from minority in Hungary.

[Cumansky]

Where are these Russians from? Especially this one. 8% East Med on K15 is too much for an unmixed Russian. Maybe 1/4 Jewish?

Gulevich is mixed forsure, Ukrainian Russian or Belorussian Russian one of those options is most likely scenario

Mixed mode 50% Hungarian + 50% Erzya

He might plot close to me..

[Leto]

Man, I wouldn't add this sample until you check it. Vlado (Vladimir) is Croatian and Serbian name, this guy surely isn't full Hungarian. It's also Russian name but obviously he is South Slav most probably.
Maybe he is from minority in Hungary.
Another dubious Krabat from Cumansky :lol: However adding some mixed people is also useful, so that people can see the difference between full-blooded and mixed individuals.

[Leto]

Gulevich is mixed forsure, Ukrainian Russian or Belorussian Russian one of those options is most likely scenario

Mixed mode 50% Hungarian + 50% Erzya

He might plot close to me..
A lot of Jews have vich surnames. I bet he's part Ashkenazi.

[Cumansky]

How did you find so many GEDmatch kits, Cumansky?

From my close match

[Cumansky]

A lot of Jews have vich surnames. I bet he's part Ashkenazi.

1/8 or less Jew

[Cumansky]

Another dubious Krabat from Cumansky :lol: However adding some mixed people is also useful, so that people can see the difference between full-blooded and mixed individuals.

You dumb those Russian pure than you..

Your Mongol rape mixture is keep you east

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/SFLiRC9.png

27 - Polish 5
28 - Polish 6
Polish 7 unnumbered, colored in Green
Polish 8 unnumbered, colored in Purple
29 - Bulgarian
30 - Ukraine 2

[Cumansky]

Hungarian 2

Zombori, his relative HUN1

He put as nickname Vlado, that not his real name

[Leto]

You dumb those Russian pure than you..

Your Mongol rape mixture is keep you east
Again, why are you attacking me personally? You don't even know where my parents are from. My mom is from Kirov oblast, so of course she would be more Eastern but that has nothing to with Mongols, let alone rape. That's a Soviet myth promoted by communists, already disproved by genetic studies (almost no East Asian Y-DNA in Russians). By the way, my mom and her parents look fully European, nothing visibly Eurasian.
Attack me once again personally and I won't be responding to you anymore and contributing to your topics. Got it?

[Peterski]

Again, why are you attacking me personally?

He is crazy, he insulted me too just because of where my ancestry is from.

[Cumansky]

Bump

[Leto]

He is crazy, he insulted me too just because of where my ancestry is from.
He's just jealous of your Central Euro genetics. :)

[Peterski]

He called me less Polish than himself, he does not even live in Poland.

My family lives in the same region for the last 3000 years if not more. And this is where Poland started.

I don't disrespect Kresy, I wonder why he disrespects Wielkopolska?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/7gWiR0o.png

Russian 1 unnumbered, colored in Orange
Russian 2 unnumbered, colored in Pink
31 - Russian 3
32 - Russian 4
33 - Montenegrin
34 - Arhat (Russian, Pashtun)
35 - Silenkiller (Russian, Belarusian) , colored in dark Green

Arhat probably is closest to steppe Indo-Europeans of all.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Where are these Russians from? Especially this one. 8% East Med on K15 is too much for an unmixed Russian. Maybe 1/4 Jewish?

Can't be Jewish at all mate, scores zero Red sea and zero West Asian. He/she cluster with Lviv sample, probably West Ukrainian ancestry.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Hungarian 2

Zombori, his relative HUN1

He put as nickname Vlado, that not his real name

I'll add him.

[Peterski]

He/she cluster with Lviv sample, probably West Ukrainian ancestry.

Lwów was a Polish city for 600 years, there was no such thing as Ukraine there.

[Cumansky]

He called me less Polish than himself, when he plots with Ukrainians and he does not even live in Poland.

My family lives in the same region for the last 3000 years if not more. And this is where Poland started.

I don't disrespect Kresy, I wonder why he disrespects Wielkopolska?

I am plot over South Poland #1

You plot over Prussian Jews, and you have not reveal your kit what are you hiding?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Lwów was a Polish city for 600 years, there was no such thing as Ukraine there.

Yeah. But my point was that this person isn't Jewish but typical western Ukrainian genetically.
Lot of Ukrainians and some Poles in Russia.

[Leto]

Can't be Jewish at all mate, scores zero Red sea and zero West Asian. He/she cluster with Lviv sample, probably West Ukrainian ancestry.
Well, pure Ashkenazi Jews are like 6-7% Red Sea or so. If he is only 1/4, the minor Red Sea percentage could have been sucked into the East Med which is a similar thing anyway. However I can't be sure.

[Peterski]

You plot over Prussian Jews

Wrong, Prussian Jews plot close to Sicilians (like the rest of Ashkenazim). I know because I found some Prussian Jewish kits.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Well, pure Ashkenazi Jews are like 6-7% Red Sea or so. If he is only 1/4, the minor Red Sea percentage could have been sucked into the East Med which is a similar thing anyway. However I can't be sure.

Maybe Vlach/Romanian-like ancestry ? Vlachs score lot of East Med. Some people mentioned Carpathian Slavs are mixed with Vlachs. It looks like standard admixture there.

[Leto]

Russian 1 unnumbered, colored in Orange
Russian 2 unnumbered, colored in Pink
31 - Russian 3
32 - Russian 4
33 - Montenegrin
34 - Arhat (Russian, Pashtun)
35 - Silenkiller (Russian, Belarusian) , colored in dark Green

Arhat probably is closest to steppe Indo-Europeans of all.
Yes, Arhat even looks very Aryan (I saw his photos). His Y-DNA is straight up Indo-Aryan (Sintashta).

[Peterski]

Maybe Vlach/Romanian-like ancestry?

Could be some Armenian ancestry, see my thread below:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?260314-Ethnic-groups-of-the-Polish-Lithuanian-Commonwealth

Or just some very ancient substrate ancestry in this region.

[Cumansky]

Well, pure Ashkenazi Jews are like 6-7% Red Sea or so. If he is only 1/4, the minor Red Sea percentage could have been sucked into the East Med which is a similar thing anyway. However I can't be sure.

Hes not 1/4 you just invent..

Hes partly from Eastern Galicia, Red Army pickup

[Cumansky]

Could be some Armenian ancestry:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?260314-Ethnic-groups-of-the-Polish-Lithuanian-Commonwealth

There is no Armenians in Eastern Galicia

[Leto]

Maybe Vlach/Romanian-like ancestry ? Vlachs score lot of East Med. Some people mentioned Carpathian Slavs are mixed with Vlachs. It looks like standard admixture there.
Yes, there's many Ukrainians and even Moldovans in Russia after all. They tend to assimilate very fast and switch to Russian identity.

[Peterski]

PLEASE ADD:

Prussian Jew (Posen Province), ancestral surnames Tannenbaum & Knobloch:

Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.7
2 West_Med 17.48
3 West_Asian 15.5
4 Atlantic 11.46
5 North_Sea 8.68
6 Red_Sea 7.63
7 Baltic 5.32
8 Eastern_Euro 2.9
9 South_Asian 1.56
10 Northeast_African 1.5
11 Siberian 0.96
12 Southeast_Asian 0.67
13 Sub-Saharan 0.64


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMfjzzuSg9o

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/PXderBY.png

36 - Hungarian 2

[Cumansky]

That Hungarian has a lot Balkan genetic

[Peterski]

Prussian Jewish: Abscisse (x-axis): 651 pixel, Ordonnée (y-axis): 464 pixel

Specially for Cumansky so he can see how Prussian Jews plot.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/yhw7RNx.png

37 - Jewish (Prussia)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Prussian Jewish: Abscisse (x-axis): 651 pixel, Ordonnée (y-axis): 464 pixel

Specially for Cumansky so he can see how Prussian Jews plot.

Look very pure, amazing.

[Peterski]

There is no Armenians in Eastern Galicia

There were, Lwów had an Armenian community, as well as a Sephardic Jewish community.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

That Hungarian has a lot Balkan genetic

Apparently lot of Hungarians do.

[Peterski]

Look very pure, amazing.

This is how she looks like (she lives in the USA, but all of her ancestors are Prussian Jews):

okay photo deleted

^^^ Can pass as German-American? :) See my thread:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278051-German-Americans-are-Jews

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

^^^Nope, I think she looks very typical European Jewish. In Zagreb there are old Jewish ladies like her.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

She has the same phenotype as you Nato. Alpine-Med.

I told you that you look more Jewish than German.

I can pass for both German and Jewish. Even for Ukrainian or Azeri Turkmen lol, my look is very versatile.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I look like my mother, but with father pigmentation (black hair, blue eyes). My mother is lighter than us (medium brown hair, blue eyes and very pale skin), but she looks quite Jewish. In face I mean.
suprised I score no Jewish, I tought she would have some because she really look like one.

She is 3/4 Croat 1/4 Czech.

[Leto]

@Nato, you forgot the Slavic knez of the Balkans - Vlatko Abdullah Haji Vuković xD


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.02
2 North_Sea 18.97
3 Eastern_Euro 15.5
4 Atlantic 13.61
5 West_Med 11.3
6 East_Med 8.29
7 West_Asian 7.71
8 Red_Sea 1.62
9 Amerindian 0.53
10 Siberian 0.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 1.98
2 Croatian 4.18
3 Hungarian 6.66
4 Serbian 8.02
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.24
6 Ukrainian 9.02
7 South_Polish 9.16
8 Austrian 9.56
9 Romanian 9.79
10 East_German 11.58
11 Polish 11.98
12 Bulgarian 12.08
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.31
14 Russian_Smolensk 12.56
15 Southwest_Russian 12.85
16 Belorussian 14.65
17 Estonian_Polish 14.66
18 Kargopol_Russian 15.78
19 Finnish 16.37
20 Southwest_Finnish 16.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.4% Ukrainian + 25.6% Central_Greek @ 1.69
2 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Ukrainian @ 1.88
3 85.6% Moldavian + 14.4% Croatian @ 1.88
4 96.8% Moldavian + 3.2% Lithuanian @ 1.89
5 96.2% Moldavian + 3.8% Belorussian @ 1.9
6 95.5% Moldavian + 4.5% Polish @ 1.9
7 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.9
8 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% South_Polish @ 1.91
9 96.5% Moldavian + 3.5% Estonian_Polish @ 1.91
10 97.2% Moldavian + 2.8% Estonian @ 1.93
11 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Hungarian @ 1.93
12 96.6% Moldavian + 3.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.93
13 96.9% Moldavian + 3.1% Southwest_Russian @ 1.94
14 97.2% Moldavian + 2.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.95
15 68.5% Ukrainian + 31.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.97
16 98.8% Moldavian + 1.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.97
17 99.1% Moldavian + 0.9% Erzya @ 1.98
18 99% Moldavian + 1% Finnish @ 1.98
19 98.7% Moldavian + 1.3% East_German @ 1.98
20 98.4% Moldavian + 1.6% Austrian @ 1.98


I will place him on the map now.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/bePP97X.png

38 - Vlatko Vuković (Bosniak)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He is very ''pure'' Southern Slav in terms of Admixture, mostly Slavic and some Balkan, not much else. Good example for Serbo-Croatian speakers.

[Leto]

I don't understand something. Vlatko's distance to Moldova is really small - only about 2 points. Why is he so distant from Moldova on the PCA?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I don't understand something. Vlatko's distance to Moldova is really small - only about 2 points. Why is he so distant from Moldova on the PCA?

I noticed on PCA you don't necessary come close to your top match in Oracles. But don't know why, anyone know ?

[Leto]

He is very ''pure'' Southern Slav in terms of Admixture, mostly Slavic and some Balkan, not much else. Good example for Serbo-Croatian speakers.
Years ago there was a TA member called Hrulj. He was a Muslim Bosniak but said he didn't understand Serbian and Croatian as they were foreign languages to him. He also considered himself Illyrian and said Slavs and Russians were subhumans (he looked Slavic and could pass as Russian as well).

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Years ago there was a TA member called Hrulj. He was a Muslim Bosniak but said he didn't understand Serbian and Croatian as they were foreign languages to him. He also considered himself Illyrian and said Slavs and Russians were subhumans (he looked Slavic and could pass as Russian as well).

:rotfl::rotfl:

Are you for real bro ? They speak same language like us. With lot more Turkish loanwords, but BiH Christians use them as well.

Bosniaks are weird, look how Bosniensis behaved. And funny because in inter war anthropological studies on BiH muslims were blondest and most light-eyed group, catholics whitest skinned though.
But differences weren't great. For some reason though it's easier to find stereotypical Slavic looking Bosniak than BiH Serb or Croat.

They look shorter and more Baltoid often compared with their Christian neighbours. That's from my experience at least. Maybe there was some sexual selection going on among muslims, I know lot of them are obsessed with blonde females even today. (Turkish cultural influence ? Turks love blondes)

Bosniaks from Serbia and Montenegro are very dark and can look mena, they look mostly Albanian in genetics.

[Leto]

:rotfl::rotfl:

Are you for real bro ? They speak same language like us. With lot more Turkish loanwords, but BiH Christians use them as well.

Bosniaks are weird, look how Bosniensis behaved. And funny because in inter war anthropological studies on BiH muslims were blondest and most light-eyed group, catholics whitest skinned though.
But differences weren't great. For some reason though it's easier to find stereotypical Slavic looking Bosniak than BiH Serb or Croat.

They look shorter and more Baltoid often compared with their Christian neighbours. That's from my experience at least. Maybe there was some sexual selection going on among muslims, I know lot of them are obsessed with blonde females even today. (Turkish cultural influence ? Turks love blondes)

Bosniaks from Serbia and Montenegro are very dark and can look mena, they look mostly Albanian in genetics.
I see. Many people still believe Bosniaks and Albanians are all part Turkish because of Islam but that's not true. Especially in Albanians the mongoloid is almost non-existent.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I see. Many people still believe Bosniaks and Albanians are all part Turkish because of Islam but that's not true. Especially in Albanians the mongoloid is almost non-existent.

Albanians very pure Balkan natives, no Turkish admixture.

[Cumansky]

Nato where is 4 Russians?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Pribislav wrote me yesterday there was tested Croat who came out R1a-Z93, and his ancestors were Islamized before converting back to Catholicism.
Another R1a Z93 person among tousands of tested Serbo-Croatian speakers is Bosniak.

Maybe they have Turkish admixture, or proto-Croat from Persia :cool:

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Nato where is 4 Russians?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278404-Eastern-and-Central-Euro-K15-PCA&p=5808787&viewfull=1#post5808787

[Leto]

Pribislav wrote me yesterday there was tested Croat who came out R1a-Z93, and his ancestors were Islamized before converting back to Catholicism.
ANother R1a Z93 person among tousands of tested Serbo-Croatian speakers is Bosniak.

Maybe they have Turkish admixture, or proto-Croat from Persia :cool:
I consider R1a Z93 a white haplo as it was originally Indo-Iranian. Bronze Age Z93 carriers were nothing like Indians or Central Asians racially.

[Lemgrant]

Family of Russian and Jewish descent:
http://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=3234.5;imode


https://i.imgur.com/67uk5KR.png

1. Father kit# F205199 (Ashkenazi Jew, Ukraine/Poland)

Population
North_Sea 16.12
Atlantic 9.73
Baltic 4.17
Eastern_Euro 3.12
West_Med 15.13
West_Asian 12.77
East_Med 28.48
Red_Sea 7.16
South_Asian 0.54
Southeast_Asian 0.77
Siberian 0.79
Amerindian 0.40
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.83
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 6.46
2 East_Sicilian 7.3
3 Central_Greek 7.73
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.6
5 South_Italian 8.99
6 Italian_Jewish 9.49
7 Greek_Thessaly 9.69
8 West_Sicilian 10
9 Sephardic_Jewish 11.51
10 Algerian_Jewish 12.15
11 Tuscan 12.55
12 Greek 12.57
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.49
14 Tunisian_Jewish 14.74
15 Cyprian 16.87
16 Bulgarian 17.59
17 North_Italian 18.34
18 Romanian 18.61
19 Lebanese_Muslim 18.81
20 Syrian 19.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% Samaritan + 42.8% West_German @ 3.58
2 55.7% Lebanese_Christian + 44.3% West_German @ 3.96
3 54% Lebanese_Christian + 46% French @ 4.28
4 63.5% Cyprian + 36.5% West_German @ 4.3
5 70.2% Cyprian + 29.8% West_Norwegian @ 4.38
6 61.8% Samaritan + 38.2% Southwest_English @ 4.61
7 69.5% Cyprian + 30.5% Norwegian @ 4.71
8 55.6% Samaritan + 44.4% French @ 4.71
9 64.4% Samaritan + 35.6% West_Norwegian @ 4.79
10 60.3% Lebanese_Christian + 39.7% Southwest_English @ 4.79
11 63.8% Samaritan + 36.2% Orcadian @ 4.91
12 63.6% Samaritan + 36.4% Norwegian @ 4.94
13 69.6% Cyprian + 30.4% Swedish @ 5.04
14 58.5% Samaritan + 41.5% South_Dutch @ 5.05
15 69.8% Cyprian + 30.2% Orcadian @ 5.1
16 57% Lebanese_Christian + 43% South_Dutch @ 5.13
17 62.9% Samaritan + 37.1% North_Dutch @ 5.16
18 62.3% Samaritan + 37.7% Southeast_English @ 5.21
19 51% Lebanese_Druze + 49% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.24
20 69.5% Libyan_Jewish + 30.5% West_German @ 5.24


2. Mother kit# F216277 (Russian, from Voronezh (maternal line) and Yaroslavl (paternal line))

Population
North_Sea 21.42
Atlantic 12.77
Baltic 29.74
Eastern_Euro 22.19
West_Med 4.37
West_Asian 4.35
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.77
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.63
Amerindian 0.88
Oceanian 0.48
Northeast_African 0.40
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 4.61
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.37
3 Ukrainian 6.1
4 Estonian_Polish 6.15
5 Belorussian 6.22
6 Russian_Smolensk 6.52
7 Polish 6.61
8 Estonian 6.7
9 Kargopol_Russian 7.04
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.05
11 South_Polish 7.06
12 Lithuanian 7.66
13 Erzya 8.39
14 East_Finnish 10.18
15 Finnish 11.72
16 Croatian 12.82
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.84
18 Moldavian 13.87
19 Hungarian 14.9
20 La_Brana-1 16.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.6% Erzya @ 3.43
2 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Erzya @ 3.47
3 58.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.3% Estonian @ 3.64
4 55.5% South_Polish + 44.5% Erzya @ 3.64
5 66.9% Southwest_Russian + 33.1% Estonian @ 3.69
6 57.9% Polish + 42.1% Erzya @ 3.73
7 78.5% Southwest_Russian + 21.5% East_Finnish @ 3.83
8 57.7% Estonian + 42.3% Erzya @ 3.87
9 81.5% Southwest_Russian + 18.5% Finnish @ 3.87
10 71.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.3% East_Finnish @ 3.89
11 50% Ukrainian_Lviv + 50% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.93
12 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 4
13 74.4% Lithuanian + 25.6% Tatar @ 4.06
14 75.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 24.2% Finnish @ 4.07
15 68.2% Southwest_Russian + 31.8% Ukrainian @ 4.1
16 53.1% Kargopol_Russian + 46.9% Lithuanian @ 4.19
17 75.2% Southwest_Russian + 24.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.22
18 75.5% Southwest_Russian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.24
19 80.4% Southwest_Russian + 19.6% Erzya @ 4.26
20 98% Southwest_Russian + 2% Dolgan @ 4.27

3. Their son kit# F196332 (50% Jewish, 50% Russian)

Population
North_Sea 18.44
Atlantic 14.11
Baltic 17.56
Eastern_Euro 13.05
West_Med 7.88
West_Asian 9.53
East_Med 12.20
Red_Sea 3.13
South_Asian 0.15
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.64
Amerindian 0.76
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.54
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.77
2 Romanian 6.74
3 Moldavian 6.85
4 Hungarian 8.69
5 Croatian 8.9
6 Bulgarian 9.4
7 Austrian 10.11
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.28
9 East_German 13.61
10 South_Polish 13.95
11 Ukrainian 14.33
12 Greek_Thessaly 15.89
13 Polish 16.52
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.53
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.85
16 Southwest_Russian 16.98
17 Greek 17.3
18 Southwest_Finnish 18.06
19 Finnish 18.06
20 West_German 18.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.6% Estonian + 48.4% Central_Greek @ 3.2
2 75.7% Romanian + 24.3% East_Finnish @ 3.24
3 50.2% Estonian + 49.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.3
4 52.4% Estonian + 47.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.4
5 50.4% Estonian + 49.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.6
6 66% Finnish + 34% Cyprian @ 3.62
7 53.8% East_Finnish + 46.2% Central_Greek @ 3.63
8 75.8% Romanian + 24.2% Finnish @ 3.67
9 67.9% Bulgarian + 32.1% East_Finnish @ 3.71
10 55.5% Estonian + 44.5% South_Italian @ 3.71
11 67.2% Bulgarian + 32.8% Finnish @ 3.75
12 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.81
13 79.5% Hungarian + 20.5% Turkish @ 3.85
14 54.7% East_Finnish + 45.3% East_Sicilian @ 3.91
15 78.7% Romanian + 21.3% Erzya @ 3.91
16 54.7% Finnish + 45.3% Central_Greek @ 3.92
17 60.1% South_Polish + 39.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.94
18 83.8% Hungarian + 16.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.94
19 80.9% Hungarian + 19.1% Azeri @ 3.94
20 54.2% Greek_Thessaly + 45.8% East_Finnish @ 3.94

4. Their son's wife kit# M101426 (Russian, from Voronezh (paternal line))

Population
North_Sea 14.87
Atlantic 15.93
Baltic 32.55
Eastern_Euro 22.67
West_Med 4.59
West_Asian 3.64
East_Med 2.13
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.59
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.81
Amerindian 0.22
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 4.82
2 Estonian_Polish 4.85
3 Russian_Smolensk 5.28
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.33
5 Belorussian 5.39
6 Lithuanian 7.05
7 Polish 8.49
8 Kargopol_Russian 8.71
9 Erzya 9.28
10 South_Polish 9.34
11 Ukrainian 9.53
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.28
13 Estonian 10.94
14 Croatian 13.43
15 East_Finnish 14.21
16 Moldavian 15.29
17 Finnish 16.47
18 Hungarian 17.41
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.68
20 Austrian 18.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.1% Estonian_Polish + 3.9% Selkup @ 4
2 96.9% Estonian_Polish + 3.1% Dolgan @ 4.02
3 97.1% Estonian_Polish + 2.9% Evenki @ 4.02
4 96.1% Estonian_Polish + 3.9% Ket @ 4.03
5 97.2% Estonian_Polish + 2.8% Evens @ 4.03
6 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Yakut @ 4.06
7 71.3% Russian_Smolensk + 28.7% Erzya @ 4.08
8 96.4% Estonian_Polish + 3.6% Saqqaq @ 4.08
9 96.9% Estonian_Polish + 3.1% Koryak @ 4.12
10 94.3% Estonian_Polish + 5.7% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.14
11 97.2% Estonian_Polish + 2.8% Oroqen @ 4.15
12 95.8% Estonian_Polish + 4.2% Hakas @ 4.15
13 96.6% Estonian_Polish + 3.4% Tuvinian @ 4.16
14 96.8% Estonian_Polish + 3.2% Buryat @ 4.16
15 96.2% Estonian_Polish + 3.8% Altaian @ 4.17
16 77.1% Estonian_Polish + 22.9% Erzya @ 4.18
17 95.7% Estonian_Polish + 4.3% Shors @ 4.2
18 95.2% Belorussian + 4.8% Selkup @ 4.2
19 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Chukchi @ 4.2
20 71.1% Belorussian + 28.9% Erzya @ 4.22

5. Their son's son kit# M205613 (25% Jewish, 75% Russian)

Population
North_Sea 15.81
Atlantic 16.53
Baltic 26.22
Eastern_Euro 15.97
West_Med 6.26
West_Asian 7.50
East_Med 7.69
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.73
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.07
Amerindian 1.23
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.1
2 Moldavian 7.56
3 South_Polish 7.6
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.9
5 Russian_Smolensk 8.27
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.46
7 Ukrainian 8.56
8 Southwest_Russian 8.9
9 Polish 9.63
10 Hungarian 10.15
11 Belorussian 10.59
12 Austrian 10.83
13 Estonian_Polish 10.88
14 Serbian 12.68
15 Kargopol_Russian 12.96
16 Romanian 13.69
17 Lithuanian 13.8
18 Estonian 14.14
19 East_German 14.25
20 Erzya 14.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Southwest_Russian + 35.7% Bulgarian @ 3.15
2 66.3% Russian_Smolensk + 33.7% Bulgarian @ 3.22
3 81.1% Russian_Smolensk + 18.9% South_Italian @ 3.23
4 79.4% Russian_Smolensk + 20.6% Central_Greek @ 3.29
5 84.7% Russian_Smolensk + 15.3% Cyprian @ 3.31
6 75.7% Russian_Smolensk + 24.3% Greek @ 3.34
7 52.8% Lithuanian + 47.2% Bulgarian @ 3.36
8 59.8% Belorussian + 40.2% Bulgarian @ 3.36
9 74.1% Southwest_Russian + 25.9% Greek @ 3.42
10 83.2% Russian_Smolensk + 16.8% Turkish @ 3.43
11 79.9% Southwest_Russian + 20.1% South_Italian @ 3.43
12 75.7% Russian_Smolensk + 24.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.48
13 80.1% Russian_Smolensk + 19.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.52
14 66% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34% Bulgarian @ 3.52
15 61.8% Southwest_Russian + 38.2% Romanian @ 3.55
16 85.9% Russian_Smolensk + 14.1% Assyrian @ 3.55
17 63.9% Russian_Smolensk + 36.1% Romanian @ 3.56
18 85.2% Russian_Smolensk + 14.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.61
19 50.2% Romanian + 49.8% Lithuanian @ 3.61
20 77.8% Southwest_Russian + 22.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.64




6. Their son's daughter kit# M101814 (25% Jewish, 75% Russian)

Population
North_Sea 17.44
Atlantic 16.90
Baltic 23.26
Eastern_Euro 17.11
West_Med 6.85
West_Asian 5.96
East_Med 9.66
Red_Sea 0.11
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.59
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.12
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.58
2 Moldavian 6.8
3 South_Polish 8.17
4 Hungarian 8.5
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.67
6 Ukrainian 8.98
7 Austrian 9.04
8 Russian_Smolensk 9.93
9 Polish 10.15
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.17
11 Southwest_Russian 10.3
12 Serbian 10.33
13 Belorussian 12
14 Estonian_Polish 12.2
15 Romanian 12.3
16 East_German 12.72
17 Kargopol_Russian 13
18 Bulgarian 14.23
19 East_Finnish 14.31
20 Estonian 14.57


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.2% Southwest_Russian + 25.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.16
2 61% Estonian + 39% Greek @ 3.32
3 72% Southwest_Russian + 28% Tuscan @ 3.36
4 73.4% Southwest_Russian + 26.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.36
5 76.4% Southwest_Russian + 23.6% South_Italian @ 3.6
6 81.1% Polish + 18.9% Cyprian @ 3.65
7 55% Southwest_Russian + 45% Romanian @ 3.65
8 69.7% Southwest_Russian + 30.3% Greek @ 3.68
9 70.1% Belorussian + 29.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.68
10 50.6% Bulgarian + 49.4% Estonian @ 3.69
11 50.1% Southwest_Russian + 49.9% Serbian @ 3.71
12 58.8% Southwest_Russian + 41.2% Bulgarian @ 3.74
13 83.1% Polish + 16.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.74
14 78.3% Southwest_Russian + 21.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.74
15 74.4% Southwest_Russian + 25.6% Central_Greek @ 3.8
16 79.1% Russian_Smolensk + 20.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.82
17 50.7% Belorussian + 49.3% Romanian @ 3.83
18 70.9% Belorussian + 29.1% Central_Greek @ 3.84
19 69.8% Estonian_Polish + 30.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.85
20 75% Southwest_Russian + 25% East_Sicilian @ 3.85

7. Their son's nephew kit# F205198

Population
North_Sea 16.54
Atlantic 7.23
Baltic 21.66
Eastern_Euro 14.77
West_Med 8.31
West_Asian 15.63
East_Med 7.43
Red_Sea 2.19
South_Asian 2.76
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.93
Amerindian 0.93
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.61
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 8.89
2 Croatian 12.32
3 Romanian 12.77
4 Serbian 13.64
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.68
6 Hungarian 14.07
7 Bulgarian 14.37
8 Ukrainian 14.83
9 South_Polish 15.22
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.49
11 Southwest_Russian 16.55
12 Austrian 16.81
13 Russian_Smolensk 17.29
14 Polish 18.04
15 Tatar 18.42
16 East_German 18.63
17 Kargopol_Russian 18.71
18 Erzya 18.91
19 Belorussian 19.39
20 Estonian_Polish 19.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 30.9% Kumyk @ 4.41
2 67.2% Ukrainian + 32.8% Kumyk @ 4.53
3 74.2% Ukrainian + 25.8% Georgian @ 4.86
4 77.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.7% Abhkasian @ 4.88
5 75.6% Ukrainian + 24.4% Abhkasian @ 4.88
6 75.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 24.1% Georgian @ 4.9
7 71.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.3% Balkar @ 4.97
8 72.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.5% Adygei @ 5.03
9 71% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29% Kabardin @ 5.05
10 70.7% Ukrainian + 29.3% Adygei @ 5.18
11 69.9% Ukrainian + 30.1% Balkar @ 5.18
12 73.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26.1% Ossetian @ 5.19
13 70.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.8% Lezgin @ 5.26
14 69.2% Ukrainian + 30.8% Kabardin @ 5.27
15 72.2% Ukrainian + 27.8% Ossetian @ 5.34
16 80.9% Moldavian + 19.1% Lezgin @ 5.43
17 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% Kabardin @ 5.46
18 81.8% Moldavian + 18.2% Chechen @ 5.5
19 73.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26.3% North_Ossetian @ 5.5
20 83.4% Moldavian + 16.6% North_Ossetian @ 5.5

K13:
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.9% Kargopol_Russian + 32.1% Armenian @ 3.19
2 67.5% Kargopol_Russian + 32.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.58
3 66.6% Southwest_Russian + 33.4% Turkish @ 3.59
4 67.9% Kargopol_Russian + 32.1% Assyrian @ 3.62
5 71.4% Southwest_Russian + 28.6% Armenian @ 3.72
6 57.5% Lithuanian + 42.5% Turkish @ 3.82
7 67.4% Estonian_Polish + 32.6% Armenian @ 3.84
8 67% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Turkish @ 3.91
9 62.3% Estonian_Polish + 37.7% Turkish @ 3.95
10 72.3% Ukrainian + 27.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.1
11 71.5% Ukrainian + 28.5% Iranian @ 4.16
12 71.1% Southwest_Russian + 28.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.18
13 63.2% Russian_Smolensk + 36.8% Turkish @ 4.2
14 71.6% Ukrainian + 28.4% Kurdish @ 4.21
15 63% Kargopol_Russian + 37% Turkish @ 4.32
16 69.3% Ukrainian + 30.7% Azeri @ 4.32
17 62.9% Lithuanian + 37.1% Armenian @ 4.37
18 68.3% Russian_Smolensk + 31.7% Armenian @ 4.38
19 68% Southwest_Russian + 32% Azeri @ 4.39
20 67.1% Estonian_Polish + 32.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.4

[Leto]

The nephew seems to have some wog ancestry from the south.
Anyway, I could swamp this thread with DNA results of Russians but too many dots on the map would simply make it indiscernible. I will post a couple more though.

To add some multiculti and diversity to the PCA I'll post a half Kalmyk woman with her 1/4 Kalmyk son, a 1/4 Buryat woman and also a mixed Russian-Armenian family. Also, I had a part Chinese woman and daughter from the Far East of Russia. Hopefully none of those kits have been deleted.

[CommonSense]

https://i.imgur.com/KbuiaJp.png

20 - Momčilović (Serb)

It's typical Serbian surname, and he plots like Serb.

He is very close to me, just a bit to the northeast. I'm curious which part of ex-Yu he is from.

Oh, and that Montenegrin sample is a nice find too. It is looking more and more that they are fully within the Serbian cluster and that any people such as that woman I posted are outliers.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He is very close to me, just a bit to the northeast. I'm curious which part of ex-Yu he is from.

Oh, and that Montenegrin sample is a nice find too. It is looking more and more that they are fully within the Serbian cluster and that any people such as that woman I posted are outliers.

Jana's Serb ancestor was Momčilović mate, from Lika. She mentioned it many times.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/5kq2j5.jpg

Wanted to make thread about this particular Montenegrin result. Plots bit south west from Serbia proper, makes sense geographically. Ask Cumansky about his kit number.
This result is in line with that west balkan paper which showed Montenegrins clustering similary northern as Belgrade Serbs, just more western, and more north from Romanians and Bulgarians.

I would say this guy is way more typical than female you posted.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Croatian kits (for those who haven't seen our thread) plotted on PCA, better not to add them on already congested map.

http://oi67.tinypic.com/6yfext.jpg

Red = North West Croats
Green = South Croats
Purple-Blue = Croats from Bosnia and Herzegovina
Dark Red = Central Croatian Mountains
Pink = West Croat (North Adriatic coast)
Dark Purple = West Croat (Istrian peninsula)
Brownish Yellow = East Croat

yellow are samples from unknown regions

[Leto]

A (former?) TA member Alexander Lekomtsev. Eastern Russian from Udmurtia, he shares some segments with my mom

Population
North_Sea 17.74 Pct
Atlantic 14.06 Pct
Baltic 29.34 Pct
Eastern_Euro 25.00 Pct
West_Med 1.69 Pct
West_Asian 4.38 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.96 Pct
Siberian 5.58 Pct
Amerindian 0.54 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.63 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kargopol_Russian 4.77
2 Erzya 5.49
3 Southwest_Russian 6.42
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.27
5 Estonian_Polish 7.87
6 Belorussian 8.36
7 Russian_Smolensk 8.44
8 Estonian 9.84
9 Lithuanian 9.85
10 Polish 9.98
11 East_Finnish 10.02
12 Ukrainian 10.69
13 South_Polish 10.9
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.64
15 Finnish 13.64
16 Croatian 15.53
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.87
18 Tatar 16.55
19 Moldavian 16.62
20 La_Brana-1 17.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.7% Lithuanian + 29.3% Chuvash @ 2.73
2 76% Lithuanian + 24% Mari @ 3.22
3 74.8% Belorussian + 25.2% Chuvash @ 3.28
4 79.3% Belorussian + 20.7% Mari @ 3.33
5 63.7% Lithuanian + 36.3% Tatar @ 3.47
6 64.7% Erzya + 35.3% Belorussian @ 3.65
7 84.8% Southwest_Russian + 15.2% Mari @ 3.66
8 65% Erzya + 35% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.67
9 92.4% Southwest_Russian + 7.6% Selkup @ 3.68
10 75.5% Kargopol_Russian + 24.5% Lithuanian @ 3.74
11 92.4% Southwest_Russian + 7.6% Ket @ 3.83
12 63.8% Erzya + 36.2% Estonian_Polish @ 3.87
13 81.6% Southwest_Russian + 18.4% Chuvash @ 3.88
14 56.8% Erzya + 43.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.88
15 70% Erzya + 30% Estonian @ 3.9
16 70.1% Erzya + 29.9% Lithuanian @ 3.91
17 76.8% Estonian_Polish + 23.2% Chuvash @ 3.91
18 70.7% Erzya + 29.3% Polish @ 3.96
19 82% Erzya + 18% La_Brana-1 @ 3.99
20 81.2% Estonian_Polish + 18.8% Mari @ 4

[Leto]

SSlava, Caucasus Russian (Stavropol krai), he's very Balto-Slavic

Population
North_Sea 20.10 Pct
Atlantic 14.46 Pct
Baltic 31.26 Pct
Eastern_Euro 20.42 Pct
West_Med 6.36 Pct
West_Asian 4.71 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea 1.30 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.69 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.65 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.69
2 Southwest_Russian 4.7
3 Russian_Smolensk 4.77
4 Belorussian 4.8
5 Estonian_Polish 4.84
6 Ukrainian 5.3
7 Polish 5.38
8 South_Polish 5.64
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.93
10 Lithuanian 6.56
11 Estonian 8.32
12 Kargopol_Russian 10.21
13 Croatian 11.34
14 Erzya 11.48
15 Moldavian 13.04
16 East_Finnish 13.45
17 Finnish 13.92
18 Hungarian 14.25
19 Southwest_Finnish 15.08
20 East_German 16.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% Ukrainian + 42.8% Lithuanian @ 3.03
2 53.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.6% Lithuanian @ 3.12
3 57.8% Estonian_Polish + 42.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.17
4 68.8% Lithuanian + 31.2% Moldavian @ 3.21
5 54.1% Estonian_Polish + 45.9% Ukrainian @ 3.33
6 55.5% South_Polish + 44.5% Lithuanian @ 3.37
7 54.5% Belorussian + 45.5% Ukrainian @ 3.38
8 58.8% Belorussian + 41.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.39
9 66.2% Lithuanian + 33.8% Croatian @ 3.62
10 56.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.5% Ukrainian @ 3.64
11 56.9% Southwest_Russian + 43.1% Ukrainian @ 3.73
12 61.7% Southwest_Russian + 38.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.73
13 62% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 38% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.76
14 56.2% Russian_Smolensk + 43.8% Ukrainian @ 3.79
15 58.5% Estonian_Polish + 41.5% South_Polish @ 3.86
16 62.2% Russian_Smolensk + 37.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.93
17 59% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41% Polish @ 3.94
18 67.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32.5% Lithuanian @ 3.96
19 59.6% Belorussian + 40.4% South_Polish @ 3.96
20 82.3% Belorussian + 17.7% Moldavian @ 3.99

[Leto]

rein, half Jordanian, half Russian (mostly Volga and Siberia but also 1/8 Belarusian)

Population
North_Sea 11.52 Pct
Atlantic 10.86 Pct
Baltic 13.18 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.75 Pct
West_Med 6.89 Pct
West_Asian 10.51 Pct
East_Med 20.99 Pct
Red_Sea 6.42 Pct
South_Asian 1.81 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.86 Pct
Amerindian 0.43 Pct
Oceanian 0.50 Pct
Northeast_African 1.51 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.77 Pct

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/GTlZbx2.png

39 - Alexander Lekomtsev (Russian)
SSlava (Russian), unnumbered in Yellow

[Leto]

Russian/Buryat mix (woman) from Ulan-Ude, Buryatia. She's about 1/4 Buryat and also looks accordingly

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Eastern_Euro 21.77
2 Baltic 21.43
3 North_Sea 17.28
4 Siberian 13.47
5 Atlantic 9.17
6 Southeast_Asian 6.49
7 West_Med 5.1
8 Amerindian 2.06
9 East_Med 1.64
10 Sub-Saharan 0.59
11 Red_Sea 0.51
12 West_Asian 0.21
13 Oceanian 0.2
14 South_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar 10.81
2 East_Finnish 13.3
3 Kargopol_Russian 13.66
4 Erzya 14.33
5 Chuvash 16.76
6 Finnish 16.86
7 Ukrainian 18
8 Southwest_Russian 18.28
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.54
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.97
11 Estonian 19.05
12 South_Polish 19.13
13 Estonian_Polish 19.51
14 Polish 19.52
15 Russian_Smolensk 19.52
16 Moldavian 19.72
17 Southwest_Finnish 19.76
18 Belorussian 20.07
19 Croatian 20.29
20 La_Brana-1 20.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.1% Kargopol_Russian + 19.9% Mongolian @ 4.53
2 82.4% Kargopol_Russian + 17.6% Buryat @ 4.77
3 68.3% Ukrainian + 31.7% Shors @ 4.96
4 84.8% Kargopol_Russian + 15.2% Oroqen @ 4.97
5 81.1% Kargopol_Russian + 18.9% Tuvinian @ 5.07
6 70.2% Ukrainian + 29.8% Hakas @ 5.14
7 78.7% Kargopol_Russian + 21.3% Altaian @ 5.23
8 66.5% Polish + 33.5% Shors @ 5.49
9 68.5% Estonian_Polish + 31.5% Hakas @ 5.51
10 68.4% Polish + 31.6% Hakas @ 5.53
11 65.9% Belorussian + 34.1% Shors @ 5.54
12 66.6% Estonian_Polish + 33.4% Shors @ 5.6
13 69% Estonian + 31% Hakas @ 5.61
14 79.7% Erzya + 20.3% Mongolian @ 5.64
15 67.8% Belorussian + 32.2% Hakas @ 5.65
16 76.2% Ukrainian + 23.8% Tuvinian @ 5.67
17 63.9% Lithuanian + 36.1% Shors @ 5.72
18 67.2% Estonian + 32.8% Shors @ 5.76
19 75.9% Southwest_Russian + 24.1% Tuvinian @ 5.86
20 67.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 32.1% Shors @ 5.88

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/IFMpqaE.png

40 - Rein (Russian, Jordanian)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/WIKVhGi.png

41 - Russian, Buryat

[Leto]

Vyacheslav (the strange guy who reads TA through Google Translate, no offense, bro ;)) He is Northern Russian (Veliky Ustyug, Eastern Volograd oblast).

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.6
2 Eastern_Euro 22.37
3 North_Sea 21.07
4 Atlantic 18.84
5 West_Med 4.48
6 Siberian 3.07
7 West_Asian 2.15
8 South_Asian 1.64
9 Oceanian 0.33
10 Northeast_African 0.28
11 Sub-Saharan 0.18

2 55% Russian_Smolensk + 45% East_Finnish @ 2.52
5 55% Estonian_Polish + 45% East_Finnish @ 2.84

[Leto]

I will post a couple of mutts and maybe let's call it quits? Soon it's gonna become unreadable if we add more full Russians and Slavs. They would be clustering too tightly.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/dAqhUyb.png

Vyanceslav (Russian) in Gray, unnumbered.

He plot almost on top of Dark Green no.35, they overlap.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Vyanceslav overlap Silentkiller, both TA members ? Could be brothers xD First is hair bit more SE than second.

[Mingle]

I will post a couple of mutts and maybe let's call it quits? Soon it's gonna become unreadable if we add more full Russians and Slavs. They would be clustering too tightly.

Having one PCA for all of Eastern and Central Europe didn't seem like a great idea. That's a pretty massive region and the PCA template being used is kinda tiny.

[Leto]

Kalmyk/Russian family

1. Father - full Kalmyk

Population
North_Sea -
Atlantic 4.14 Pct
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro 7.57 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 7.78 Pct
East_Med 0.26 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.74 Pct
Southeast_Asian 30.35 Pct
Siberian 45.14 Pct
Amerindian 1.42 Pct
Oceanian 0.40 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.20 Pct

2. Mother - full Russian (born in Perm, no more info but very pure Russian)

Population
North_Sea 20.29 Pct
Atlantic 15.05 Pct
Baltic 30.90 Pct
Eastern_Euro 20.82 Pct
West_Med 5.84 Pct
West_Asian 3.39 Pct
East_Med 1.43 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.64 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Siberian 0.98 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.74
2 Belorussian 3.74
3 Estonian_Polish 3.88
4 Russian_Smolensk 4
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.38
6 Polish 4.47
7 Ukrainian 4.74
8 South_Polish 5.13
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.89
10 Lithuanian 6.06
11 Estonian 7.19
12 Kargopol_Russian 8.96
13 Erzya 10.63
14 Croatian 11.14
15 East_Finnish 12.16
16 Finnish 12.87
17 Moldavian 13.04
18 Hungarian 13.87
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.1
20 Austrian 15.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.9% Ukrainian + 43.1% Lithuanian @ 1.8
2 57.5% Belorussian + 42.5% Ukrainian @ 1.97
3 56.4% Estonian_Polish + 43.6% Ukrainian @ 2
4 63.1% Estonian_Polish + 36.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.21
5 55.1% South_Polish + 44.9% Lithuanian @ 2.34
6 65.1% Belorussian + 34.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.39
7 69.8% Lithuanian + 30.2% Moldavian @ 2.42
8 50.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.1% Lithuanian @ 2.54
9 59.7% Southwest_Russian + 40.3% Ukrainian @ 2.62
10 66.6% Lithuanian + 33.4% Croatian @ 2.72
11 61.3% Estonian_Polish + 38.7% South_Polish @ 2.77
12 63.6% Belorussian + 36.4% South_Polish @ 2.83
13 57.5% Russian_Smolensk + 42.5% Ukrainian @ 2.85
14 84.2% Belorussian + 15.8% Moldavian @ 2.89
15 78.4% Lithuanian + 21.6% Serbian @ 2.91
16 68.6% Southwest_Russian + 31.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.92
17 59.8% Southwest_Russian + 40.2% Polish @ 3
18 53.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.4% Ukrainian @ 3.02
19 72.1% Lithuanian + 27.9% Hungarian @ 3.04
20 65.5% Southwest_Russian + 34.5% South_Polish @ 3.05


3. Daughter - half Kalmyk, half Russian

Population
North_Sea 12.75 Pct
Atlantic 10.96 Pct
Baltic 11.45 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.04 Pct
West_Med 2.96 Pct
West_Asian 6.48 Pct
East_Med 1.67 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.22 Pct
Southeast_Asian 14.22 Pct
Siberian 24.84 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.41 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

4. Daughter's son - 1/4 Kalmyk, 1/4 Russian, 1/2 either Polish or Ukrainian or both

Population
North_Sea 20.29 Pct
Atlantic 12.29 Pct
Baltic 20.60 Pct
Eastern_Euro 14.99 Pct
West_Med 4.82 Pct
West_Asian 1.37 Pct
East_Med 3.94 Pct
Red_Sea 0.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.99 Pct
Southeast_Asian 6.40 Pct
Siberian 13.51 Pct
Amerindian 0.48 Pct
Oceanian 0.07 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.12 Pct

[Leto]

Vyanceslav overlap Silentkiller, both TA members ? Could be brothers xD First is hair bit more SE than second.
Yes. SK is also from Vologda, but from the city. His parents were not born there though.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Yes. SK is also from Vologda, but from the city. His parents were not born there though.

Do you have any sample from Volgograd (ex-Stalingrad) or vicinity ? Would be interesting to see Russians from Sochi area too.

[Leto]

Do you have any sample from Volgograd (ex-Stalingrad) or vicinity ? Would be interesting to see Russians from Sochi area too.
Yes, I think there were some. However in the city proper most people are post WWII migrants and their children as it was almost completely destroyed. The region itself was populated in the 18th century, so quite lately.

Father:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.16
2 Eastern_Euro 20.5
3 Atlantic 19.28
4 North_Sea 17.02
5 West_Med 6.48
6 West_Asian 4.75
7 Siberian 1.96
8 East_Med 1.56
9 South_Asian 0.82
10 Red_Sea 0.7
11 Northeast_African 0.51
12 Sub-Saharan 0.15
13 Southeast_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 4.43
2 Polish 5.25
3 South_Polish 5.42
4 Southwest_Russian 5.96
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.13
6 Estonian_Polish 6.17
7 Belorussian 6.94
8 Ukrainian 7
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.64
10 Croatian 8.23
11 Kargopol_Russian 8.98
12 Estonian 10.73
13 Moldavian 11.03
14 Lithuanian 11.03
15 Austrian 11.78
16 East_Finnish 11.84
17 Erzya 11.87
18 Hungarian 12.04
19 Southwest_Finnish 12.92
20 Finnish 12.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87% Southwest_Russian + 13% French_Basque @ 2.19
2 86.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.1% French_Basque @ 2.53
3 84.3% Southwest_Russian + 15.7% Southwest_French @ 2.62
4 85.8% Southwest_Russian + 14.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.79
5 85.2% Southwest_Russian + 14.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.85
6 85.6% Southwest_Russian + 14.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.86
7 85.7% Southwest_Russian + 14.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.98
8 90.4% Russian_Smolensk + 9.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.98
9 90.2% Russian_Smolensk + 9.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.99
10 90.4% Russian_Smolensk + 9.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3
11 84.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.8% Southwest_French @ 3
12 85.4% Southwest_Russian + 14.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.01
13 89.8% Russian_Smolensk + 10.2% Southwest_French @ 3.02
14 90.9% Russian_Smolensk + 9.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.05
15 92.1% Russian_Smolensk + 7.9% French_Basque @ 3.08
16 90.4% Russian_Smolensk + 9.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.08
17 90.4% Russian_Smolensk + 9.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.09
18 90.5% Russian_Smolensk + 9.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.12
19 90.2% Russian_Smolensk + 9.8% Portuguese @ 3.14
20 90% Russian_Smolensk + 10% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.16

Son:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.67
2 Eastern_Euro 19.79
3 Atlantic 18.16
4 North_Sea 17.36
5 West_Asian 5.73
6 West_Med 4.91
7 Siberian 1.81
8 East_Med 1.47
9 South_Asian 1.12
10 Red_Sea 0.8
11 Northeast_African 0.1
12 Amerindian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 2.5
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.21
3 Southwest_Russian 4.23
4 Estonian_Polish 4.92
5 Polish 5.03
6 Belorussian 5.13
7 South_Polish 5.17
8 Ukrainian 6.7
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.03
10 Lithuanian 8.85
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.13
12 Croatian 9.34
13 Estonian 9.66
14 Erzya 11.44
15 Moldavian 11.83
16 East_Finnish 12.46
17 Hungarian 12.99
18 Finnish 13.38
19 Austrian 13.38
20 Southwest_Finnish 13.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.8% Russian_Smolensk + 5.2% Nogay @ 1.43
2 95.3% Russian_Smolensk + 4.7% Afghan_Turkmen @ 1.47
3 90.7% Russian_Smolensk + 9.3% Tatar @ 1.51
4 95.7% Russian_Smolensk + 4.3% Uzbeki @ 1.63
5 96.2% Russian_Smolensk + 3.8% Hazara @ 1.66
6 95.9% Russian_Smolensk + 4.1% Afghan_Hazara @ 1.66
7 98% Russian_Smolensk + 2% Evens @ 1.67
8 97.9% Russian_Smolensk + 2.1% Yakut @ 1.67
9 97.9% Russian_Smolensk + 2.1% Dolgan @ 1.67
10 98% Russian_Smolensk + 2% Evenki @ 1.68
11 97.2% Russian_Smolensk + 2.8% Altaian @ 1.71
12 96.9% Russian_Smolensk + 3.1% Hakas @ 1.72
13 97.5% Russian_Smolensk + 2.5% Saqqaq @ 1.73
14 97.7% Russian_Smolensk + 2.3% Buryat @ 1.73
15 95.5% Russian_Smolensk + 4.5% Tadjik @ 1.73
16 96.8% Russian_Smolensk + 3.2% Shors @ 1.75
17 97.6% Russian_Smolensk + 2.4% Tuvinian @ 1.76
18 98% Russian_Smolensk + 2% Oroqen @ 1.76
19 97.4% Russian_Smolensk + 2.6% Ket @ 1.76
20 97.9% Russian_Smolensk + 2.1% Koryak @ 1.77

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/MqyJ2IC.png

42 - Kalmyk
Russian (Perm) unnumbered, in Light Pink
43 - Russian , Kalmyk
44 - Russian, Kalmyk, Polish, Ukrainian

[Leto]

From Amur oblast, Russian Far East.

Grandmother (seems full Russian)

Population
North_Sea 25.09 Pct
Atlantic 9.81 Pct
Baltic 28.16 Pct
Eastern_Euro 24.22 Pct
West_Med 3.88 Pct
West_Asian 5.44 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.51 Pct
Amerindian 0.21 Pct
Oceanian 0.28 Pct
Northeast_African 0.11 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Mother (1/4 Chinese and also some other things, maybe Siberian or Chuvash/Tatar)

Population
North_Sea 11.12 Pct
Atlantic 8.65 Pct
Baltic 19.64 Pct
Eastern_Euro 18.48 Pct
West_Med 4.56 Pct
West_Asian 5.29 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.71 Pct
Southeast_Asian 20.65 Pct
Siberian 10.51 Pct
Amerindian 0.38 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Daughter (her father seems to have been fully Russian - he's dead now)

Population
North_Sea 12.74 Pct
Atlantic 13.32 Pct
Baltic 25.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 16.40 Pct
West_Med 3.90 Pct
West_Asian 5.41 Pct
East_Med 1.42 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.55 Pct
Southeast_Asian 12.02 Pct
Siberian 6.04 Pct
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.94 Pct

[Leto]

42 - Kalmyk
Russian (Perm) unnumbered, in Light Pink
43 - Russian , Kalmyk
44 - Russian, Kalmyk, Polish, Ukrainian
You see even 1/4 Mongol people (Kalmyks and Buryats are Mongolic speakers) plot very far even from Kargopol and Erzya. And many believe those would be average Russians :rolleyes:

[dimadoe]

Isn't he partially from Tula oblast? It's a bit more Southeastern than Moscow.

So I just asked him again. He said that grandpa from Tula is from a village 60km south of Moscow. I just wish I knew where his other grandma was from.

[Cumansky]

He is very close to me, just a bit to the northeast. I'm curious which part of ex-Yu he is from.

Oh, and that Montenegrin sample is a nice find too. It is looking more and more that they are fully within the Serbian cluster and that any people such as that woman I posted are outliers.

I don't know where is Momcilovic from. He has some exotic admixture from Steppe common in Magyars, Bulgars, Polish Szlachta, Cossacks, Romanians, Moldovans, etc. Close match, top 25 in GEDmatch.

K15

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 20.77
2 Baltic 19.05
3 West_Asian 15.69
4 Atlantic 12.98
5 Eastern_Euro 12.06
6 East_Med 10.13
7 West_Med 9.25
8 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.94
2 Romanian 8.53
3 Serbian 8.99
4 Hungarian 10.11
5 Croatian 10.45
6 Bulgarian 10.98
7 Austrian 12.3
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14
9 East_German 14.26
10 South_Polish 14.74
11 Ukrainian 15.15
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.26
14 Polish 17.74
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.09
16 Southwest_Russian 18.16
17 West_German 18.73
18 Greek 18.97
19 South_Dutch 19.54
20 Southwest_Finnish 20.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.1% Hungarian + 17.9% Abhkasian @ 3.38
2 80.9% Hungarian + 19.1% Georgian @ 3.42
3 78.5% Hungarian + 21.5% Adygei @ 3.68
4 79.4% Hungarian + 20.6% North_Ossetian @ 3.93
5 76.1% Hungarian + 23.9% Kumyk @ 3.95
6 76.9% Hungarian + 23.1% Lezgin @ 4.02
7 77.7% Hungarian + 22.3% Kabardin @ 4.07
8 78.3% Hungarian + 21.7% Balkar @ 4.09
9 79.8% Hungarian + 20.2% Ossetian @ 4.15
10 77.9% Hungarian + 22.1% Chechen @ 4.18
11 86.2% Moldavian + 13.8% Georgian @ 4.66
12 77.1% Hungarian + 22.9% Tabassaran @ 4.66
13 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% Abhkasian @ 4.74
14 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Ossetian @ 4.96
15 85.3% Moldavian + 14.7% North_Ossetian @ 4.99
16 84.8% Moldavian + 15.2% Adygei @ 5.01
17 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% Tabassaran @ 5.05
18 83.4% Moldavian + 16.6% Lezgin @ 5.06
19 82.8% Moldavian + 17.2% Kumyk @ 5.06
20 73% South_Polish + 27% Armenian @ 5.07

MDLP World 22

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 40.65
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 31.85
3 West-Asian 14.92
4 Near_East 5.61
5 North-European-Mesolithic 3.17
6 Indo-Tibetan 1.68
7 Samoedic 1.02
8 Melanesian 0.93
9 Indo-Iranian 0.13
10 Arctic-Amerind 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian (derived) 4.9
2 Montenegrin (derived) 5.27
3 Serbian (derived) 5.76
4 Bulgarian (derived) 5.79
5 Romania (derived) 6.98
6 Gagauz (derived) 7.62
7 German-South (derived) 8.93
8 Bosnian (derived) 9.65
9 Swiss (derived) 10.49
10 German_V (derived) 11.15
11 Hungarian (derived) 11.32
12 Croatian (derived) 11.34
13 Austrian (derived) 11.53
14 Italian_North (derived) 11.74
15 Provancestralal (derived) 12.88
16 CEU_V (derived) 13.07
17 CEU (derived) 13.08
18 French (derived) 13.41
19 British (derived) 13.62
20 Slovenian (derived) 13.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.7% German_V (derived) + 28.3% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 2.3
2 68.3% CEU_V (derived) + 31.7% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 2.41
3 81.6% German_V (derived) + 18.4% Armenian (derived) @ 2.41
4 79% CEU_V (derived) + 21% Armenian (derived) @ 2.47
5 78.3% German_V (derived) + 21.7% Turk (derived) @ 2.54
6 82.2% German_V (derived) + 17.8% Jew_Azerbaijan (derived) @ 2.65
7 79.8% CEU_V (derived) + 20.2% Georgian_Laz (derived) @ 2.71
8 82.4% German_V (derived) + 17.6% Jew_Tat (derived) @ 2.73
9 71.2% Austrian (derived) + 28.8% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 2.8
10 82.5% German_V (derived) + 17.5% Jew_Iraqi (derived) @ 2.81
11 81.2% Austrian (derived) + 18.8% Armenian (derived) @ 2.81
12 82.4% German_V (derived) + 17.6% Georgian_Laz (derived) @ 2.85
13 81.9% Austrian (derived) + 18.1% Georgian_Laz (derived) @ 2.87
14 75.4% CEU_V (derived) + 24.6% Turk (derived) @ 2.88
15 81.9% German_V (derived) + 18.1% Jew-Uzbekistan (derived) @ 2.94
16 79.8% CEU_V (derived) + 20.2% Jew_Tat (derived) @ 2.95
17 79.8% CEU_V (derived) + 20.2% Jew_Azerbaijan (derived) @ 2.96
18 55.7% German (derived) + 44.3% Greek_North (derived) @ 2.99
19 82% German_V (derived) + 18% Jew_Georgia (derived) @ 3.02
20 77.9% Austrian (derived) + 22.1% Turk (derived) @ 3.03

[Cumansky]

He is very close to me, just a bit to the northeast. I'm curious which part of ex-Yu he is from.

Oh, and that Montenegrin sample is a nice find too. It is looking more and more that they are fully within the Serbian cluster and that any people such as that woman I posted are outliers.

Montenegrin is from Podgorica, close match top 50 in GEDmatch. Surname Popovic.

K15

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 18.28
2 Baltic 17.49
3 West_Med 15.86
4 Atlantic 13.57
5 East_Med 12.69
6 Eastern_Euro 12.43
7 West_Asian 5.61
8 Red_Sea 3.12
9 Northeast_African 0.96

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.96
2 Romanian 7.15
3 Moldavian 8.23
4 Bulgarian 8.72
5 Croatian 9.96
6 Hungarian 10.02
7 Austrian 11.75
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.48
9 East_German 14.11
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.03
11 Greek 15.41
12 Ukrainian 15.75
13 North_Italian 15.76
14 South_Polish 15.95
15 Tuscan 16.68
16 Spanish_Galicia 17.48
17 French 17.49
18 West_German 18.26
19 Portuguese 18.29
20 Polish 18.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.2% Greek_Thessaly + 45.8% Ukrainian @ 4.18
2 51.5% Ukrainian + 48.5% Tuscan @ 4.28
3 58.4% Greek_Thessaly + 41.6% Polish @ 4.39
4 57.1% Ukrainian + 42.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.47
5 63.8% Ukrainian + 36.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.57
6 70.1% Moldavian + 29.9% Tuscan @ 4.57
7 84% Moldavian + 16% Sardinian @ 4.59
8 54.7% Greek_Thessaly + 45.3% South_Polish @ 4.61
9 58.9% Croatian + 41.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.63
10 64.8% Ukrainian + 35.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.63
11 52.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.2% Tuscan @ 4.63
12 57.6% Ukrainian + 42.4% East_Sicilian @ 4.68
13 53.1% Greek_Thessaly + 46.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.71
14 69.1% Moldavian + 30.9% North_Italian @ 4.75
15 58.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.82
16 60.8% Ukrainian + 39.2% South_Italian @ 4.89
17 65.5% Moldavian + 34.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.92
18 75.2% Moldavian + 24.8% West_Sicilian @ 4.93
19 64.3% Greek_Thessaly + 35.7% Estonian @ 4.97
20 78.2% Croatian + 21.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.97

MDLP World 22

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 41.24
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 32.44
3 Near_East 11.92
4 West-Asian 10.26
5 North-European-Mesolithic 2.05
6 South-America_Amerind 0.94
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.45
8 Pygmy 0.37
9 Indo-Iranian 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian (derived) 4.27
2 Montenegrin (derived) 5
3 Serbian (derived) 5.44
4 Bulgarian (derived) 5.71
5 Gagauz (derived) 8.57
6 Romania (derived) 9.18
7 German-South (derived) 9.86
8 Bosnian (derived) 9.93
9 Swiss (derived) 10
10 Italian_North (derived) 11.06
11 Croatian (derived) 11.4
12 Hungarian (derived) 11.72
13 Austrian (derived) 11.8
14 German_V (derived) 12.14
15 Provancestralal (derived) 12.36
16 CEU_V (derived) 13.51
17 French (derived) 13.59
18 CEU (derived) 13.98
19 Slovenian (derived) 14.02
20 British (derived) 14.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.1% Czech (derived) + 34.9% Jew_Francestrale (derived) @ 2.12
2 67.3% Czech (derived) + 32.7% Sephardim (derived) @ 2.29
3 65.7% Czech (derived) + 34.3% Jew_Italia (derived) @ 2.37
4 70% Slovenian (derived) + 30% Jew_Francestrale (derived) @ 2.4
5 81.4% Austrian (derived) + 18.6% Samaritian (derived) @ 2.5
6 72.1% Slovenian (derived) + 27.9% Sephardim (derived) @ 2.51
7 74% Slovenian (derived) + 26% Jew_Libya (derived) @ 2.52
8 70.6% Slovenian (derived) + 29.4% Jew_Italia (derived) @ 2.55
9 71.7% Slovenian (derived) + 28.3% Jew_Morocco (derived) @ 2.59
10 73.2% Slovenian (derived) + 26.8% Jew_Tunisia (derived) @ 2.61
11 95.1% Serbian (derived) + 4.9% Near_East (ancestral) @ 2.62
12 63.4% Slovakian (derived) + 36.6% Jew_Francestrale (derived) @ 2.65
13 72.9% Slovenian (derived) + 27.1% Jew_Algeria (derived) @ 2.69
14 70% German-North (derived) + 30% Jew_Tunisia (derived) @ 2.7
15 68.2% Czech (derived) + 31.8% Jew_Algeria (derived) @ 2.7
16 73.9% Hungarian (derived) + 26.1% Jew_Francestrale (derived) @ 2.8
17 79.3% CEU_V (derived) + 20.7% Samaritian (derived) @ 2.8
18 61% Czech (derived) + 39% Sicilian (derived) @ 2.83
19 59.2% Slovakian (derived) + 40.8% Sicilian (derived) @ 2.84
20 77.5% Hungarian (derived) + 22.5% Jew_Libya (derived) @ 2.84

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/Z5XQnjS.png

Father and Son (Russians, Volgograd) unnumbered, in Bright Blue

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/duoP8Di.png

45 - Russian (Far East)
46 - Russian, Chinese
47- Russian, Chinese

[Mingle]

You see even 1/4 Mongol people (Kalmyks and Buryats are Mongolic speakers) plot very far even from Kargopol and Erzya. And many believe those would be average Russians :rolleyes:

Do you have any Kaliningrad Russian kits? Do you know which part of mainland Russia most of them are originally from?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Montenegrin is from Podgorica, close match top 50 in GEDmatch. Surname Popovic.

Nice find. Popović is extremely stereotypical Montenegrin surname.

[Leto]

Do you have any Kaliningrad Russian kits? Do you know which part of mainland Russia most of them are originally from?
No, but they were from all over Russia. Mainly Western and Northwestern parts though plus a lot of Ukrainians and Belorussians. It's a new territory, there's no specific genetic profile of them. I guess they are kind of like Baltic Russians. For example most Russians (excl. UA & BEL) in Estonia and Latvia (60-65%) were from European Russia west of Tatarstan, a lot were from oblasts that are geographically even closer to those Baltic republics (Pskov, Leningrad, Smolensk, Tver).

[Ayetooey]

Add that croat match of mine.

North_Sea 15.60 Pct
Atlantic 17.26 Pct
Baltic 17.64 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.62 Pct
West_Med 10.67 Pct
West_Asian 7.64 Pct
East_Med 14.92 Pct
Red_Sea 2.25 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.81 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.58 Pct

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/XM4Q42g.png

48 - Croatian (Zadar)

[michal3141]

This is Eurogenes K15, correct?

Add me please:

1 Baltic 25.88
2 Eastern_Euro 22.89
3 North_Sea 22.27
4 Atlantic 12.27
5 West_Med 7.06
6 West_Asian 2.82
7 East_Med 2.53
8 South_Asian 1.44
9 Red_Sea 1.26
10 Siberian 0.86
11 Amerindian 0.62
12 Oceanian 0.09
13 Northeast_African 0.01

[Ayetooey]

Yeah Zadar. They plots more North than I thought they would considering med scores are higher than Serb average. Defo not Italian or Albo leaning tho.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/KFuybdh.png

49 - Michal3141 (Polish) , colored in Purple

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Yeah Zadar. They plots more North than I thought they would considering med scores are higher than Serb average. Defo not Italian or Albo leaning tho.

Yes, but very Dalmatian-Serb like :devil:

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Michal, you are pretty eastern for Pole. More Eastern than average Ukrainians in fact.

[michal3141]

Michal, you are pretty eastern for Pole. More Eastern than average Ukrainians in fact.

Yes. I see. I am definitely more eastern for some reason. Maybe some Russian blood ;) I was getting quite good fits with 7/8 South Polish + 1/8 East Finnish when trying to model myself.

Could you zoom the Eastern European part (Between East German and Erzya and between Estonian and Romanian)?
+ It would be nice if you could provide a list with a name for each number (I know you've been posting these information in this thread but it already has more pages than I can read ;) )

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/FfzIpwf.png

Added myself in Red, no. 50 :)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

zoomed in

https://i.imgur.com/w6q9iZi.png

List of names:

1 - Cumansky (South Polish)
2 - Cumansky Uncle (South Polish)
3 - Poland 1
4 - Hungary 1
5 - Poland 2
6 - Ukrainian 1 (Crimea)
7 - Poland 3
8 - Lithuanian 1 (Sabonis)
9 - LukaszM Father (Polish)
10 - LukaszM Mother (Polish)
11 - LukaszM Daughter (Polish), colored in Red
12 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandmother (Russian)
13 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandfather (half Baltic German, half Russian and Polish)
14 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandfather (Russian)
15 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandmother (Russian)
16 - Not a Cop (Russian)
17 - Leto Brother In Law (Russian) , colored in Red
18 - Kursk (Russian)
19 - Pskov (Russian)
20 - Momčilović (Serb)
Greater Poland - unnumbered, colored in Purple-Red
21 - Spis (Slovak )
22 - Lemgrant (Ukraine)
23- Dimadoe Father (Russian)
Leto's Family - (Russian, Belarusian) unnmbered, colored in Brown
24 - Croatian (Horvatić)
25 - Polish , colored in green
26 - Norka (Russian, Tatar Crimea)
27 - Polish 5
28 - Polish 6
Polish 7 - unnumbered, colored in Green
Polish 8 - unnumbered, colored in Purple
29 - Bulgarian
30 - Ukraine 2
Russian 1 - unnumbered, colored in Orange
Russian 2 - unnumbered, colored in Pink
31 - Russian 3
32 - Russian 4
33 - Montenegrin
34 - Arhat (Russian, Pashtun)
35 - Silenkiller (Russian, Belarusian) , colored in dark Green
36 - Hungarian 2
37 - Jewish (Prussia)
38 - Vlatko Vuković (Bosniak)
39 - Alexander Lekomtsev (Russian)
SSlava (Russian) - unnumbered, colored in Yellow
40 - Rein (Russian, Jordanian)
41 - Russian, Buryat
Vyanceslav (Russian) - unnumbered, colored in Gray
42 - Kalmyk
Russian (Perm) - unnumbered, colored in Light Pink
43 - Russian , Kalmyk
44 - Russian, Kalmyk, Polish, Ukrainian
Father and Son (Russians, Volgograd) - unnumbered, colored in Bright Blue
45 - Russian (Far East)
46 - Russian, Chinese
47- Russian, Chinese
48 - Croatian (Zadar)
49 - Michal3141 (Polish) , colored in Purple
50 - Nato (Croat, Slovene, Czech), colored in Red

[Leto]

Added myself in Red, no. 50 :)
You're firmly Central European, more Western than the Croatian dot and quite far away from the Balkan mess :D

[Cumansky]

I want add just 1 Finnish and 1 Bosnian Croat when my phone charges

I don't want overcrowd the samples because is good chart already

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

List of names was added. Refresh the page. Some do not appear in Zoomed In version because of mixed or non East-Central Euro ancestry.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You're firmly Central European, more Western than the Croatian dot and quite far away from the Balkan mess :D

Yes, I am true Purger and son of dear Zagreb Grad :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkiZd2E26_g

[michal3141]

List of names was added. Refresh the page. Some do not appear in Zoomed In version because of mixed or non East-Central Euro ancestry.

Thank you! This is exactly what I wanted to see. So I am between two Russians on this plot - father and son from Volgograd :)

[Cumansky]

Finnish

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 32.32
2 Eastern_Euro 23.38
3 Baltic 18.55
4 Atlantic 12.74
5 Siberian 6.97
6 West_Med 1.89
7 South_Asian 1.69
8 Amerindian 1.05
9 Southeast_Asian 0.99
10 Oceanian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Finnish 7.21
2 East_Finnish 7.26
3 Southwest_Finnish 10.26
4 North_Swedish 12.18
5 Estonian 13.19
6 Kargopol_Russian 13.98
7 Ukrainian 15.58
8 Polish 16.19
9 South_Polish 16.4
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.4
11 Erzya 16.8
12 Swedish 17.06
13 East_German 17.28
14 Hungarian 17.56
15 Southwest_Russian 17.61
16 Norwegian 17.82
17 La_Brana-1 18.21
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.54
19 Estonian_Polish 18.61
20 Belorussian 18.66

Bosnian Croat

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.27
2 North_Sea 16.64
3 Atlantic 15.8
4 Eastern_Euro 14.52
5 East_Med 12.56
6 West_Med 10.38
7 West_Asian 8.71
8 Amerindian 0.62
9 Siberian 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.5
2 Serbian 6
3 Croatian 6.56
4 Romanian 6.71
5 Bulgarian 8.51
6 Hungarian 8.61
7 Austrian 9.2
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.25
9 South_Polish 12.44
10 Ukrainian 12.93
11 East_German 13.47
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.93
13 Polish 14.97
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.01
15 Southwest_Russian 15.46
16 Greek_Thessaly 16.48
17 Greek 16.86
18 Belorussian 17.27
19 Estonian_Polish 17.4
20 Kargopol_Russian 18.31

[Cumansky]

Last kits I post..

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/nke1Vvh.png

51 - Finnish
52- Croatian (Bosnia) - colored in Red

[Leto]

The Finn must be from Eastern Finland or closer to Lapland. SW Finns are less Siberian and more Scandinavian.

[Leto]

Nice job anyway, thank you, Nato!

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Final zoomed in Version.

https://i.imgur.com/zQWNn16.png

List of names:

1 - Cumansky (South Polish)
2 - Cumansky Uncle (South Polish)
3 - Poland 1
4 - Hungary 1
5 - Poland 2
6 - Ukrainian 1 (Crimea)
7 - Poland 3
8 - Lithuanian 1 (Sabonis)
9 - LukaszM Father (Polish)
10 - LukaszM Mother (Polish)
11 - LukaszM Daughter (Polish), colored in Red
12 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandmother (Russian)
13 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandfather (half Baltic German, half Russian and Polish)
14 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandfather (Russian)
15 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandmother (Russian)
16 - Not a Cop (Russian)
17 - Leto Brother In Law (Russian) , colored in Red
18 - Kursk (Russian)
19 - Pskov (Russian)
20 - Momčilović (Serb)
Greater Poland - unnumbered, colored in Purple-Red
21 - Spis (Slovak )
22 - Lemgrant (Ukraine)
23- Dimadoe Father (Russian)
Leto's Family - (Russian, Belarusian) unnmbered, colored in Brown
24 - Croatian (Horvatić)
25 - Polish , colored in green
26 - Norka (Russian, Tatar Crimea)
27 - Polish 5
28 - Polish 6
Polish 7 - unnumbered, colored in Green
Polish 8 - unnumbered, colored in Purple
29 - Bulgarian
30 - Ukraine 2
Russian 1 - unnumbered, colored in Orange
Russian 2 - unnumbered, colored in Pink
31 - Russian 3
32 - Russian 4
33 - Montenegrin (Popović)
34 - Arhat (Russian, Pashtun)
35 - Silenkiller (Russian, Belarusian) , colored in dark Green
36 - Hungarian 2
37 - Jewish (Prussia)
38 - Vlatko Vuković (Bosniak)
39 - Alexander Lekomtsev (Russian)
SSlava (Russian) - unnumbered, colored in Yellow
40 - Rein (Russian, Jordanian)
41 - Russian, Buryat
Vyanceslav (Russian) - unnumbered, colored in Gray
42 - Kalmyk
Russian (Perm) - unnumbered, colored in Light Pink
43 - Russian , Kalmyk
44 - Russian, Kalmyk, Polish, Ukrainian
Father and Son (Russians, Volgograd) - unnumbered, colored in Bright Blue
45 - Russian (Far East)
46 - Russian, Chinese
47- Russian, Chinese
48 - Croatian (Zadar)
49 - Michal3141 (Polish) , colored in Purple
50 - Nato (Croat, Slovene, Czech), colored in Red
51- Finnish
52- Croatian (Bosnia) - colored in Red


Cheers brothers :victory0:

[Leto]

@Nato, you don't need to place them on the map, I justed wanted to post this family - Armenian/Russian mix

1. Armenian man

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.42
2 East_Med 34.86
3 West_Med 11.37
4 Red_Sea 6.32
5 Atlantic 4.14
6 Baltic 2.45
7 South_Asian 1.75
8 Eastern_Euro 1.45
9 Amerindian 0.64
10 Oceanian 0.61

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 5.1
2 Georgian_Jewish 5.57
3 Assyrian 8.11
4 Turkish 10.76
5 Kurdish 11.07
6 Azeri 12.42
7 Kurdish_Jewish 12.62
8 Iranian_Jewish 12.77
9 Iranian 13.64
10 Lebanese_Muslim 14.03
11 Cyprian 16.11
12 Syrian 16.41
13 Lebanese_Christian 18.51
14 Lebanese_Druze 20.27
15 Samaritan 20.36
16 Georgian 21.25
17 Kumyk 21.31
18 Jordanian 21.89
19 Sephardic_Jewish 22.55
20 South_Italian 22.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57% Lebanese_Christian + 43% Abhkasian @ 3.93
2 54.5% Samaritan + 45.5% Abhkasian @ 4.13
3 60.6% Cyprian + 39.4% Abhkasian @ 4.16
4 53.6% Lebanese_Christian + 46.4% Georgian @ 4.29
5 85.8% Armenian + 14.2% Cyprian @ 4.42
6 95.1% Armenian + 4.9% Sardinian @ 4.42
7 93.8% Georgian_Jewish + 6.2% Sardinian @ 4.52
8 91.2% Armenian + 8.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.62
9 91.2% Armenian + 8.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.64
10 94.6% Armenian + 5.4% Tunisian @ 4.66
11 92.1% Armenian + 7.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.66
12 95.1% Armenian + 4.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.66
13 51.1% Samaritan + 48.9% Georgian @ 4.66
14 95.2% Armenian + 4.8% Moroccan @ 4.68
15 90.9% Armenian + 9.1% Samaritan @ 4.7
16 92% Armenian + 8% South_Italian @ 4.73
17 87.7% Armenian + 12.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.75
18 93% Armenian + 7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.78
19 95.6% Armenian + 4.4% Algerian @ 4.79
20 91.2% Armenian + 8.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.8


2. Russian woman

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.87
2 Eastern_Euro 24.32
3 North_Sea 19.24
4 Atlantic 13.04
5 West_Med 5.03
6 West_Asian 4.46
7 Siberian 3.29
8 South_Asian 1.84
9 Amerindian 0.61
10 Sub-Saharan 0.27
11 Northeast_African 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kargopol_Russian 4.54
2 Southwest_Russian 4.98
3 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.61
4 Erzya 6.1
5 Estonian_Polish 6.67
6 Russian_Smolensk 7.05
7 Ukrainian 7.31
8 Belorussian 7.51
9 Polish 7.7
10 South_Polish 8.11
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.54
12 Estonian 8.94
13 Lithuanian 9.63
14 East_Finnish 9.66
15 Finnish 12.6
16 Croatian 12.78
17 Moldavian 13.66
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.52
19 Hungarian 15.46
20 East_German 17.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.7% Erzya + 42.3% South_Polish @ 2.01
2 55.1% Erzya + 44.9% Ukrainian @ 2.2
3 56.6% Erzya + 43.4% Polish @ 2.33
4 59.4% Erzya + 40.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.39
5 65.2% Kargopol_Russian + 34.8% Ukrainian @ 2.73
6 57.5% Kargopol_Russian + 42.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.74
7 69.2% Kargopol_Russian + 30.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.76
8 53.8% Kargopol_Russian + 46.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.93
9 54.6% Erzya + 45.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3
10 68.9% Kargopol_Russian + 31.1% South_Polish @ 3.01
11 76.3% Erzya + 23.7% East_German @ 3.02
12 66% Kargopol_Russian + 34% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.18
13 57.6% Southwest_Russian + 42.4% Erzya @ 3.21
14 89.2% Southwest_Russian + 10.8% Mari @ 3.28
15 86.6% Southwest_Russian + 13.4% Chuvash @ 3.32
16 53% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47% Erzya @ 3.33
17 74.7% Kargopol_Russian + 25.3% Lithuanian @ 3.36
18 69.4% Kargopol_Russian + 30.6% Polish @ 3.36
19 68.8% Kargopol_Russian + 31.2% Belorussian @ 3.36
20 65.5% Kargopol_Russian + 34.5% Estonian_Polish @ 3.37


3. Their son - 1/2 Armenian, 1/2 Russian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 19.74
2 East_Med 16.76
3 Baltic 15.19
4 Eastern_Euro 12.84
5 Atlantic 12.8
6 West_Med 8.28
7 North_Sea 6.75
8 Red_Sea 3.56
9 South_Asian 2.08
10 Siberian 1.44
11 Amerindian 0.57

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 10.97
2 Romanian 12.18
3 Greek 13.46
4 Greek_Thessaly 15.13
5 Serbian 15.62
6 Ashkenazi 16.36
7 Central_Greek 16.77
8 Italian_Abruzzo 17.13
9 Moldavian 17.22
10 East_Sicilian 18.04
11 Croatian 19.4
12 Turkish 19.72
13 West_Sicilian 19.86
14 South_Italian 20.09
15 Tuscan 20.13
16 Austrian 20.81
17 Hungarian 21.6
18 Turkmen 21.63
19 Azeri 22.17
20 Kumyk 22.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.3% Turkish + 40.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.94
2 57% Turkish + 43% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.96
3 56% Turkish + 44% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.16
4 57% Turkish + 43% Southwest_Russian @ 4.37
5 59.3% Turkish + 40.7% Belorussian @ 4.41
6 62% Turkish + 38% Lithuanian @ 4.91
7 58.4% Turkish + 41.6% Polish @ 4.99
8 52% Russian_Smolensk + 48% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.06
9 50.2% Armenian + 49.8% Estonian_Polish @ 5.15
10 52.2% Russian_Smolensk + 47.8% Armenian @ 5.16
11 50.5% Georgian_Jewish + 49.5% Estonian_Polish @ 5.23
12 57.1% Croatian + 42.9% Kurdish @ 5.25
13 56.1% Turkish + 43.9% South_Polish @ 5.3
14 50.4% Croatian + 49.6% Turkish @ 5.32
15 53.6% Croatian + 46.4% Azeri @ 5.48
16 54.1% Azeri + 45.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.68
17 56.8% Turkish + 43.2% Ukrainian @ 5.74
18 59.6% Croatian + 40.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.76
19 53.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.8
20 56.5% Azeri + 43.5% Estonian_Polish @ 5.83


4. Son's wife, Russian (probably of Ukrainian origin)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.86
2 North_Sea 25.93
3 Eastern_Euro 20.47
4 Atlantic 10.45
5 West_Med 5.13
6 West_Asian 4.23
7 Siberian 1.81
8 Southeast_Asian 1.6
9 Amerindian 0.92
10 South_Asian 0.73
11 Oceanian 0.44
12 Red_Sea 0.19
13 Sub-Saharan 0.15
14 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 6.1
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.87
3 Estonian 7.14
4 South_Polish 7.98
5 Polish 8.46
6 Southwest_Russian 8.66
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.08
8 Belorussian 9.85
9 Finnish 10.03
10 Kargopol_Russian 10.07
11 Estonian_Polish 10.12
12 Russian_Smolensk 10.12
13 East_Finnish 10.21
14 Lithuanian 10.85
15 Erzya 11.58
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.7
17 Croatian 13.37
18 Hungarian 13.62
19 Moldavian 13.67
20 East_German 15.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.9% Ukrainian + 40.1% Estonian @ 5.1
2 52.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.8% Estonian @ 5.24
3 74.7% Ukrainian + 25.3% East_Finnish @ 5.34
4 75.4% Ukrainian + 24.6% Finnish @ 5.45
5 73.3% Estonian + 26.7% Moldavian @ 5.5
6 90.4% Estonian + 9.6% Tabassaran @ 5.52
7 67.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 32.2% East_Finnish @ 5.52
8 80.3% Ukrainian + 19.7% Erzya @ 5.57
9 90.8% Estonian + 9.2% Lezgin @ 5.58
10 91.3% Estonian + 8.7% Balkar @ 5.59
11 90.8% Estonian + 9.2% Kumyk @ 5.6
12 91.9% Estonian + 8.1% Ossetian @ 5.61
13 91.2% Estonian + 8.8% Chechen @ 5.65
14 93.1% Estonian + 6.9% Abhkasian @ 5.66
15 90.7% Estonian + 9.3% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.67
16 91.3% Estonian + 8.7% Kabardin @ 5.67
17 89.9% Estonian + 10.1% Nogay @ 5.68
18 92.8% Estonian + 7.2% Georgian @ 5.69
19 92.6% Ukrainian + 7.4% Chuvash @ 5.7
20 91.9% Estonian + 8.1% Adygei @ 5.72


5. Son's child #1 (daughter)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.37
2 Eastern_Euro 18.72
3 North_Sea 15.05
4 Atlantic 11.55
5 West_Asian 10.41
6 East_Med 8.47
7 West_Med 6.9
8 Siberian 2.5
9 Red_Sea 1.44
10 South_Asian 1.18
11 Amerindian 0.87
12 Sub-Saharan 0.52
13 Northeast_African 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.55
2 Croatian 8.57
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.53
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.77
5 Ukrainian 11.1
6 South_Polish 11.16
7 Southwest_Russian 11.53
8 Hungarian 11.87
9 Serbian 11.88
10 Russian_Smolensk 12.34
11 Romanian 12.5
12 Kargopol_Russian 13.39
13 Austrian 13.43
14 Polish 13.44
15 Erzya 14.06
16 Bulgarian 14.13
17 Estonian_Polish 14.47
18 Belorussian 14.55
19 Tatar 16.11
20 East_Finnish 16.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% Erzya + 49.9% Bulgarian @ 3.04
2 53.1% Romanian + 46.9% Erzya @ 3.24
3 75.3% Southwest_Russian + 24.7% Turkish @ 3.28
4 79.2% Southwest_Russian + 20.8% Armenian @ 3.61
5 76.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 23.2% Turkish @ 3.63
6 66.5% Erzya + 33.5% Central_Greek @ 3.63
7 79.3% Southwest_Russian + 20.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.85
8 61.1% Erzya + 38.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.86
9 66.3% Erzya + 33.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.87
10 69.4% Erzya + 30.6% South_Italian @ 3.92
11 79.4% Southwest_Russian + 20.6% Assyrian @ 3.93
12 76.6% Southwest_Russian + 23.4% Azeri @ 3.95
13 67.4% Erzya + 32.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.97
14 75% Estonian_Polish + 25% Armenian @ 3.98
15 61.7% Erzya + 38.3% Greek @ 4.02
16 70.7% Estonian_Polish + 29.3% Turkish @ 4.06
17 80.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.3% Armenian @ 4.13
18 79.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.4% Cyprian @ 4.16
19 80.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.2% Assyrian @ 4.17
20 76.6% Kargopol_Russian + 23.4% Armenian @ 4.17


6. Son's child #2 (son)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.51
2 Eastern_Euro 18.59
3 North_Sea 13.29
4 West_Asian 12.21
5 Atlantic 11.06
6 West_Med 8.38
7 East_Med 6.05
8 Red_Sea 2.73
9 South_Asian 1.96
10 Siberian 1.39
11 Southeast_Asian 1.14
12 Amerindian 0.99
13 Northeast_African 0.55
14 Oceanian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.3
2 Croatian 9.55
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.94
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.1
5 Ukrainian 12.59
6 Serbian 12.6
7 South_Polish 12.63
8 Romanian 12.78
9 Southwest_Russian 13.12
10 Hungarian 13.26
11 Russian_Smolensk 13.69
12 Bulgarian 14.25
13 Austrian 14.48
14 Polish 14.9
15 Kargopol_Russian 14.95
16 Erzya 15.39
17 Estonian_Polish 15.75
18 Belorussian 16.1
19 Tatar 16.63
20 East_German 17.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25.1% Turkish @ 5.04
2 73.2% Southwest_Russian + 26.8% Turkish @ 5.33
3 73.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.3% Turkmen @ 5.46
4 68.9% Estonian_Polish + 31.1% Turkish @ 5.49
5 52.2% Bulgarian + 47.8% Erzya @ 5.49
6 76.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 23.7% Azeri @ 5.58
7 79.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.8% Armenian @ 5.58
8 73.5% Estonian_Polish + 26.5% Armenian @ 5.62
9 68.4% Estonian_Polish + 31.6% Kumyk @ 5.64
10 55.5% Romanian + 44.5% Erzya @ 5.69
11 72.9% Ukrainian + 27.1% Turkmen @ 5.71
12 77.6% Southwest_Russian + 22.4% Armenian @ 5.73
13 79.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.79
14 70.2% Estonian_Polish + 29.8% Azeri @ 5.8
15 74% Ukrainian + 26% Kumyk @ 5.81
16 67.4% Estonian_Polish + 32.6% Turkmen @ 5.82
17 74.6% Southwest_Russian + 25.4% Azeri @ 5.85
18 70.9% Russian_Smolensk + 29.1% Turkmen @ 5.87
19 72% Southwest_Russian + 28% Turkmen @ 5.88
20 75.9% Ukrainian + 24.1% Balkar @ 5.89


The kids are pretty much Russian to me, assimilated enough. I would consider them fully Russian. The Armenian man is R-M269, by the way.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

^^^^very interesting bruv. Do you want me to plot them ? It's not a big deal.

[Leto]

^^^^very interesting bruv. Do you want me to plot them ? It's not a big deal.
Wouldn't they overcrowd the plot? Especially the full Russians. You can add the half Armenian man and his kids, they would be far enough from the East Slavic cluster.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Wouldn't they overcrowd the plot? Especially the full Russians. You can add the half Armenian man and his kids, they would be far enough from the East Slavic cluster.

I find it interesting how 3/4 Russian 1/4 Armenian kids are closest to Moldavians and Croatians.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/lbIuTvF.png

53 - Rusian, Armenian (father)
54 - Russian, Armenian (daughter)
55 - Russian, Armenian (son)

Daughter and son plot pretty differently actually. I expected it when filling in their values, which aren't so identical. Do you know how they look like ?

[Leto]

Daughter and son plot pretty differently actually. I expected it when filling in their values, which aren't so identical. Do you know how they look like ?
No, I haven't seen them. You're right, they are far from identical. Maybe that's okay for siblings.

[Arhat]

Where are these Russians from? Especially this one. 8% East Med on K15 is too much for an unmixed Russian. Maybe 1/4 Jewish?

Some Ukrainians and to a lesser extent South Russians with Ukrainian ancestry have recent or ancient Vlach-like admixture and that is why they are shifted to the balkan/east Mediterranean. Much of (south)western Ukraine was probably Vlach-like prior to Slavs. Somehow Poland and Western Ukraine were very southern in Pre-Slavic times. What is weird because Corded Ware was originally from this region but it seems that they moved out of this places and the local Neolithic farmers stayed there mostly

[Arhat]

@Nato, you don't need to place them on the map, I justed wanted to post this family - Armenian/Russian mix

1. Armenian man

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.42
2 East_Med 34.86
3 West_Med 11.37
4 Red_Sea 6.32
5 Atlantic 4.14
6 Baltic 2.45
7 South_Asian 1.75
8 Eastern_Euro 1.45
9 Amerindian 0.64
10 Oceanian 0.61

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 5.1
2 Georgian_Jewish 5.57
3 Assyrian 8.11
4 Turkish 10.76
5 Kurdish 11.07
6 Azeri 12.42
7 Kurdish_Jewish 12.62
8 Iranian_Jewish 12.77
9 Iranian 13.64
10 Lebanese_Muslim 14.03
11 Cyprian 16.11
12 Syrian 16.41
13 Lebanese_Christian 18.51
14 Lebanese_Druze 20.27
15 Samaritan 20.36
16 Georgian 21.25
17 Kumyk 21.31
18 Jordanian 21.89
19 Sephardic_Jewish 22.55
20 South_Italian 22.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57% Lebanese_Christian + 43% Abhkasian @ 3.93
2 54.5% Samaritan + 45.5% Abhkasian @ 4.13
3 60.6% Cyprian + 39.4% Abhkasian @ 4.16
4 53.6% Lebanese_Christian + 46.4% Georgian @ 4.29
5 85.8% Armenian + 14.2% Cyprian @ 4.42
6 95.1% Armenian + 4.9% Sardinian @ 4.42
7 93.8% Georgian_Jewish + 6.2% Sardinian @ 4.52
8 91.2% Armenian + 8.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.62
9 91.2% Armenian + 8.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.64
10 94.6% Armenian + 5.4% Tunisian @ 4.66
11 92.1% Armenian + 7.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.66
12 95.1% Armenian + 4.9% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.66
13 51.1% Samaritan + 48.9% Georgian @ 4.66
14 95.2% Armenian + 4.8% Moroccan @ 4.68
15 90.9% Armenian + 9.1% Samaritan @ 4.7
16 92% Armenian + 8% South_Italian @ 4.73
17 87.7% Armenian + 12.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.75
18 93% Armenian + 7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.78
19 95.6% Armenian + 4.4% Algerian @ 4.79
20 91.2% Armenian + 8.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.8


2. Russian woman

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.87
2 Eastern_Euro 24.32
3 North_Sea 19.24
4 Atlantic 13.04
5 West_Med 5.03
6 West_Asian 4.46
7 Siberian 3.29
8 South_Asian 1.84
9 Amerindian 0.61
10 Sub-Saharan 0.27
11 Northeast_African 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kargopol_Russian 4.54
2 Southwest_Russian 4.98
3 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.61
4 Erzya 6.1
5 Estonian_Polish 6.67
6 Russian_Smolensk 7.05
7 Ukrainian 7.31
8 Belorussian 7.51
9 Polish 7.7
10 South_Polish 8.11
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.54
12 Estonian 8.94
13 Lithuanian 9.63
14 East_Finnish 9.66
15 Finnish 12.6
16 Croatian 12.78
17 Moldavian 13.66
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.52
19 Hungarian 15.46
20 East_German 17.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.7% Erzya + 42.3% South_Polish @ 2.01
2 55.1% Erzya + 44.9% Ukrainian @ 2.2
3 56.6% Erzya + 43.4% Polish @ 2.33
4 59.4% Erzya + 40.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.39
5 65.2% Kargopol_Russian + 34.8% Ukrainian @ 2.73
6 57.5% Kargopol_Russian + 42.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.74
7 69.2% Kargopol_Russian + 30.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.76
8 53.8% Kargopol_Russian + 46.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.93
9 54.6% Erzya + 45.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3
10 68.9% Kargopol_Russian + 31.1% South_Polish @ 3.01
11 76.3% Erzya + 23.7% East_German @ 3.02
12 66% Kargopol_Russian + 34% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.18
13 57.6% Southwest_Russian + 42.4% Erzya @ 3.21
14 89.2% Southwest_Russian + 10.8% Mari @ 3.28
15 86.6% Southwest_Russian + 13.4% Chuvash @ 3.32
16 53% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47% Erzya @ 3.33
17 74.7% Kargopol_Russian + 25.3% Lithuanian @ 3.36
18 69.4% Kargopol_Russian + 30.6% Polish @ 3.36
19 68.8% Kargopol_Russian + 31.2% Belorussian @ 3.36
20 65.5% Kargopol_Russian + 34.5% Estonian_Polish @ 3.37


3. Their son - 1/2 Armenian, 1/2 Russian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 19.74
2 East_Med 16.76
3 Baltic 15.19
4 Eastern_Euro 12.84
5 Atlantic 12.8
6 West_Med 8.28
7 North_Sea 6.75
8 Red_Sea 3.56
9 South_Asian 2.08
10 Siberian 1.44
11 Amerindian 0.57

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 10.97
2 Romanian 12.18
3 Greek 13.46
4 Greek_Thessaly 15.13
5 Serbian 15.62
6 Ashkenazi 16.36
7 Central_Greek 16.77
8 Italian_Abruzzo 17.13
9 Moldavian 17.22
10 East_Sicilian 18.04
11 Croatian 19.4
12 Turkish 19.72
13 West_Sicilian 19.86
14 South_Italian 20.09
15 Tuscan 20.13
16 Austrian 20.81
17 Hungarian 21.6
18 Turkmen 21.63
19 Azeri 22.17
20 Kumyk 22.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.3% Turkish + 40.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.94
2 57% Turkish + 43% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.96
3 56% Turkish + 44% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.16
4 57% Turkish + 43% Southwest_Russian @ 4.37
5 59.3% Turkish + 40.7% Belorussian @ 4.41
6 62% Turkish + 38% Lithuanian @ 4.91
7 58.4% Turkish + 41.6% Polish @ 4.99
8 52% Russian_Smolensk + 48% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.06
9 50.2% Armenian + 49.8% Estonian_Polish @ 5.15
10 52.2% Russian_Smolensk + 47.8% Armenian @ 5.16
11 50.5% Georgian_Jewish + 49.5% Estonian_Polish @ 5.23
12 57.1% Croatian + 42.9% Kurdish @ 5.25
13 56.1% Turkish + 43.9% South_Polish @ 5.3
14 50.4% Croatian + 49.6% Turkish @ 5.32
15 53.6% Croatian + 46.4% Azeri @ 5.48
16 54.1% Azeri + 45.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.68
17 56.8% Turkish + 43.2% Ukrainian @ 5.74
18 59.6% Croatian + 40.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.76
19 53.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.8
20 56.5% Azeri + 43.5% Estonian_Polish @ 5.83


4. Son's wife, Russian (probably of Ukrainian origin)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.86
2 North_Sea 25.93
3 Eastern_Euro 20.47
4 Atlantic 10.45
5 West_Med 5.13
6 West_Asian 4.23
7 Siberian 1.81
8 Southeast_Asian 1.6
9 Amerindian 0.92
10 South_Asian 0.73
11 Oceanian 0.44
12 Red_Sea 0.19
13 Sub-Saharan 0.15
14 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 6.1
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.87
3 Estonian 7.14
4 South_Polish 7.98
5 Polish 8.46
6 Southwest_Russian 8.66
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.08
8 Belorussian 9.85
9 Finnish 10.03
10 Kargopol_Russian 10.07
11 Estonian_Polish 10.12
12 Russian_Smolensk 10.12
13 East_Finnish 10.21
14 Lithuanian 10.85
15 Erzya 11.58
16 Southwest_Finnish 12.7
17 Croatian 13.37
18 Hungarian 13.62
19 Moldavian 13.67
20 East_German 15.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.9% Ukrainian + 40.1% Estonian @ 5.1
2 52.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.8% Estonian @ 5.24
3 74.7% Ukrainian + 25.3% East_Finnish @ 5.34
4 75.4% Ukrainian + 24.6% Finnish @ 5.45
5 73.3% Estonian + 26.7% Moldavian @ 5.5
6 90.4% Estonian + 9.6% Tabassaran @ 5.52
7 67.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 32.2% East_Finnish @ 5.52
8 80.3% Ukrainian + 19.7% Erzya @ 5.57
9 90.8% Estonian + 9.2% Lezgin @ 5.58
10 91.3% Estonian + 8.7% Balkar @ 5.59
11 90.8% Estonian + 9.2% Kumyk @ 5.6
12 91.9% Estonian + 8.1% Ossetian @ 5.61
13 91.2% Estonian + 8.8% Chechen @ 5.65
14 93.1% Estonian + 6.9% Abhkasian @ 5.66
15 90.7% Estonian + 9.3% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.67
16 91.3% Estonian + 8.7% Kabardin @ 5.67
17 89.9% Estonian + 10.1% Nogay @ 5.68
18 92.8% Estonian + 7.2% Georgian @ 5.69
19 92.6% Ukrainian + 7.4% Chuvash @ 5.7
20 91.9% Estonian + 8.1% Adygei @ 5.72


5. Son's child #1 (daughter)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.37
2 Eastern_Euro 18.72
3 North_Sea 15.05
4 Atlantic 11.55
5 West_Asian 10.41
6 East_Med 8.47
7 West_Med 6.9
8 Siberian 2.5
9 Red_Sea 1.44
10 South_Asian 1.18
11 Amerindian 0.87
12 Sub-Saharan 0.52
13 Northeast_African 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.55
2 Croatian 8.57
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.53
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.77
5 Ukrainian 11.1
6 South_Polish 11.16
7 Southwest_Russian 11.53
8 Hungarian 11.87
9 Serbian 11.88
10 Russian_Smolensk 12.34
11 Romanian 12.5
12 Kargopol_Russian 13.39
13 Austrian 13.43
14 Polish 13.44
15 Erzya 14.06
16 Bulgarian 14.13
17 Estonian_Polish 14.47
18 Belorussian 14.55
19 Tatar 16.11
20 East_Finnish 16.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% Erzya + 49.9% Bulgarian @ 3.04
2 53.1% Romanian + 46.9% Erzya @ 3.24
3 75.3% Southwest_Russian + 24.7% Turkish @ 3.28
4 79.2% Southwest_Russian + 20.8% Armenian @ 3.61
5 76.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 23.2% Turkish @ 3.63
6 66.5% Erzya + 33.5% Central_Greek @ 3.63
7 79.3% Southwest_Russian + 20.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.85
8 61.1% Erzya + 38.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.86
9 66.3% Erzya + 33.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.87
10 69.4% Erzya + 30.6% South_Italian @ 3.92
11 79.4% Southwest_Russian + 20.6% Assyrian @ 3.93
12 76.6% Southwest_Russian + 23.4% Azeri @ 3.95
13 67.4% Erzya + 32.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.97
14 75% Estonian_Polish + 25% Armenian @ 3.98
15 61.7% Erzya + 38.3% Greek @ 4.02
16 70.7% Estonian_Polish + 29.3% Turkish @ 4.06
17 80.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.3% Armenian @ 4.13
18 79.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.4% Cyprian @ 4.16
19 80.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.2% Assyrian @ 4.17
20 76.6% Kargopol_Russian + 23.4% Armenian @ 4.17


6. Son's child #2 (son)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.51
2 Eastern_Euro 18.59
3 North_Sea 13.29
4 West_Asian 12.21
5 Atlantic 11.06
6 West_Med 8.38
7 East_Med 6.05
8 Red_Sea 2.73
9 South_Asian 1.96
10 Siberian 1.39
11 Southeast_Asian 1.14
12 Amerindian 0.99
13 Northeast_African 0.55
14 Oceanian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.3
2 Croatian 9.55
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.94
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.1
5 Ukrainian 12.59
6 Serbian 12.6
7 South_Polish 12.63
8 Romanian 12.78
9 Southwest_Russian 13.12
10 Hungarian 13.26
11 Russian_Smolensk 13.69
12 Bulgarian 14.25
13 Austrian 14.48
14 Polish 14.9
15 Kargopol_Russian 14.95
16 Erzya 15.39
17 Estonian_Polish 15.75
18 Belorussian 16.1
19 Tatar 16.63
20 East_German 17.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 25.1% Turkish @ 5.04
2 73.2% Southwest_Russian + 26.8% Turkish @ 5.33
3 73.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.3% Turkmen @ 5.46
4 68.9% Estonian_Polish + 31.1% Turkish @ 5.49
5 52.2% Bulgarian + 47.8% Erzya @ 5.49
6 76.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 23.7% Azeri @ 5.58
7 79.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.8% Armenian @ 5.58
8 73.5% Estonian_Polish + 26.5% Armenian @ 5.62
9 68.4% Estonian_Polish + 31.6% Kumyk @ 5.64
10 55.5% Romanian + 44.5% Erzya @ 5.69
11 72.9% Ukrainian + 27.1% Turkmen @ 5.71
12 77.6% Southwest_Russian + 22.4% Armenian @ 5.73
13 79.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 20.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.79
14 70.2% Estonian_Polish + 29.8% Azeri @ 5.8
15 74% Ukrainian + 26% Kumyk @ 5.81
16 67.4% Estonian_Polish + 32.6% Turkmen @ 5.82
17 74.6% Southwest_Russian + 25.4% Azeri @ 5.85
18 70.9% Russian_Smolensk + 29.1% Turkmen @ 5.87
19 72% Southwest_Russian + 28% Turkmen @ 5.88
20 75.9% Ukrainian + 24.1% Balkar @ 5.89


The kids are pretty much Russian to me, assimilated enough. I would consider them fully Russian. The Armenian man is R-M269, by the way.
I probably already asked you this question somewhere but i don't find the answer anymore. Do you have kits from Central Russia especially from places like Ivanovo, Wladimir and Tver? I want to test my wife who is mainly from Central Russia (Wladimir, Ivanovo,..) but i decided to test her brother to get also the y-dna of her father (paternal line is originally from Kursk) so i will do this when i am again in Russia.

[Arhat]

Pribislav wrote me yesterday there was tested Croat who came out R1a-Z93, and his ancestors were Islamized before converting back to Catholicism.
Another R1a Z93 person among tousands of tested Serbo-Croatian speakers is Bosniak.

Maybe they have Turkish admixture, or proto-Croat from Persia :cool:

He definitely needs to test his subclade but i expect him to be under Z2124. A Ottoman orgin is possible but there are many other possibilities . It could be from Alans or Avars. R1a-Z93 is found in small frequencies (less than 1%) almost everywhere in Europe. Even in places like Britain or Spain. Also R1a-Z93 was found in Late Bronze Age Bulgaria and was maybe also brought to some extent by Proto-Greeks/Proto-Balkan-IEs

[Leto]

I probably already asked you this question somewhere but i don't find the answer anymore. Do you have kits from Central Russia especially from places like Ivanovo, Wladimir and Tver? I want to test my wife who is mainly from Central Russia (Wladimir, Ivanovo,..) but i decided to test her brother to get also the y-dna of her father (paternal line is originally from Kursk) so i will do this when i am again in Russia.
Yes, you asked me last year. I sent you a couple back then.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/NLzSKmB.png

56- Pomak 1
57- Pomak 2

[Kaspias]

Kaspias

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.45
2 North_Sea 14.77
3 West_Asian 13.38
4 Eastern_Euro 12.2
5 Baltic 10.08
6 West_Med 10.03
7 Siberian 6.85
8 Atlantic 5.56
9 Red_Sea 2.46
10 South_Asian 1.97
11 Southeast_Asian 1.03
12 Sub-Saharan 0.47
13 Amerindian 0.44
14 Oceanian 0.31

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/tq3tNWB.png

58- Kaspias (Pomak, Balkan Turk)

[Leto]

Half Afghan half Lithuanian siblings

#1
Population
North_Sea 14.64 Pct
Atlantic 10.12 Pct
Baltic 17.52 Pct
Eastern_Euro 17.25 Pct
West_Med 2.11 Pct
West_Asian 15.67 Pct
East_Med 6.52 Pct
Red_Sea 0.63 Pct
South_Asian 13.58 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.93 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.23 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.81 Pct

#2
Population
North_Sea 11.94 Pct
Atlantic 13.77 Pct
Baltic 18.44 Pct
Eastern_Euro 19.30 Pct
West_Med 0.99 Pct
West_Asian 13.06 Pct
East_Med 7.81 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 12.84 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.71 Pct
Amerindian 0.50 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.52 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.12 Pct

Lithuanian mother

Population
North_Sea 20.63 Pct
Atlantic 15.63 Pct
Baltic 33.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 24.21 Pct
West_Med 3.28 Pct
West_Asian 0.84 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.00 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.44 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 3.64
2 Belorussian 4.34
3 Estonian_Polish 4.37
4 Southwest_Russian 6.14
5 Russian_Smolensk 6.83
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.15
7 Estonian 7.27
8 Polish 7.57
9 Ukrainian 9.52
10 South_Polish 9.71
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.87
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.73
13 Erzya 10.91
14 East_Finnish 13.72
15 Finnish 15.01
16 Croatian 15.97
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.3
18 La_Brana-1 17.61
19 Moldavian 18.03
20 Hungarian 18.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Lithuanian + 21.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.59
2 81.8% Lithuanian + 18.2% Erzya @ 2.77
3 59.6% Lithuanian + 40.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.87
4 86.1% Lithuanian + 13.9% East_Finnish @ 2.93
5 93.5% Lithuanian + 6.5% Chuvash @ 2.97
6 94.9% Lithuanian + 5.1% Mari @ 3.05
7 74.9% Lithuanian + 25.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.18
8 80.6% Lithuanian + 19.4% Polish @ 3.24
9 63.9% Lithuanian + 36.1% Belorussian @ 3.25
10 97% Lithuanian + 3% MA-1 @ 3.29
11 80.8% Lithuanian + 19.2% Estonian @ 3.29
12 90.8% Lithuanian + 9.2% Finnish @ 3.32
13 91.6% Lithuanian + 8.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.33
14 81.6% Lithuanian + 18.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.34
15 94.5% Lithuanian + 5.5% North_Swedish @ 3.39
16 87.4% Lithuanian + 12.6% Ukrainian @ 3.4
17 95.2% Lithuanian + 4.8% Tatar @ 3.43
18 83.3% Lithuanian + 16.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.44
19 89.4% Lithuanian + 10.6% South_Polish @ 3.47
20 96.3% Lithuanian + 3.7% Norwegian @ 3.48


Afghan father

Population
North_Sea 4.66 Pct
Atlantic 4.50 Pct
Baltic 4.15 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.32 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 30.47 Pct
East_Med 13.27 Pct
Red_Sea 0.77 Pct
South_Asian 24.35 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.66 Pct
Siberian 3.48 Pct
Amerindian 0.57 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.49 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 6.15
2 Tadjik 9.46
3 Balochi 9.51
4 Brahui 10.57
5 Makrani 10.97
6 Afghan_Uzbeki 11.79
7 Afghan_Tadjik 11.98
8 Turkmen 13.51
9 Kalash 15.64
10 Pathan 17.02
11 Burusho 18.42
12 Kumyk 21.25
13 Tabassaran 21.67
14 Iranian 21.73
15 Azeri 21.76
16 Lezgin 21.89
17 Punjabi_Jat 22.12
18 Sindhi 22.86
19 Kurdish 23.25
20 Kabardin 24.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.3% Balochi + 20.7% Tatar @ 2.66
2 77.5% Brahui + 22.5% Tatar @ 2.82
3 88.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.31
4 86.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 13.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.48
5 87.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 12.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.49
6 89.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 10.9% Palestinian @ 3.49
7 89.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 10.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.53
8 88.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.8% Cyprian @ 3.55
9 81.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.9% Azeri @ 3.55
10 89.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 10.7% Samaritan @ 3.57
11 50.2% Tadjik + 49.8% Balochi @ 3.58
12 88.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.3% Jordanian @ 3.6
13 88.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.65
14 83.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 16.7% Turkish @ 3.66
15 87.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 12.3% Syrian @ 3.69
16 82.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 17.6% Kurdish @ 3.7
17 87.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 12.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.71
18 86.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 13.2% Assyrian @ 3.76
19 81.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.5% Iranian @ 3.76
20 91.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.77

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/JDAxEjP.png

59 - Slovene 1
60 - Slovene 2

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/exyIevC.png

61- Karakartal (Balkan Turk)

[Kaspias]

May i ask what is the difference between "Eastern Euro" and "Baltic" also "North_Sea" and "Atlantic"? I usually prefer to use K13 so i don't know much about K15. They seem distributed randomly lol

[Leto]

May i ask what is the difference between "Eastern Euro" and "Baltic" also "North_Sea" and "Atlantic"? I usually prefer to use K13 so i don't know much about K15. They seem distributed randomly lol
Baltic is something Balto-Slavic (Belarus, Lithuania, Estonia, Western Russia, etc.). Eastern Euro is a more Eastern component, probably Finno-Ugric, Uralic, Northeastern European like Finns, Northern Russians. It's more ANE-realted, some 'mongoloid' and 'Amerindian' gets sucked into the EE. North Sea is Northwestern European, Atlantic is probably France, Basques, things like that.

[Kaspias]

Baltic is something Balto-Slavic (Belarus, Lithuania, Estonia, Western Russia, etc.). Eastern Euro is a more Eastern component, probably Finno-Ugric, Uralic, Northeastern European like Finns, Northern Russians. It's more ANE-realted, some 'mongoloid' and 'Amerindian' gets sucked into the EE. North Sea is Northwestern European, Atlantic is probably France, Basques, things like that.

Ah okay. Thank you for explaining!

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/SE8YwzH.png

62 - Lithuanian, colored in Pink
63 - Afghan
64 - Sibling 1 (Lithuanian, Afghan)
65 - Sibling 2 (Lithuanian, Afghan)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

May i ask what is the difference between "Eastern Euro" and "Baltic" also "North_Sea" and "Atlantic"? I usually prefer to use K13 so i don't know much about K15. They seem distributed randomly lol

North Sea is suposed to be pure Germanic component. That's what I read here. Peaks in Norwegians.

[Luke35]

Mr.G - Thanks - I'll probably be the western most plot point.
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 28.37
2 Atlantic 21.96
3 Baltic 16.64
4 West_Med 9.27
5 Eastern_Euro 8
6 East_Med 5.79
7 West_Asian 4.97
8 Red_Sea 1.85
9 South_Asian 1.61
10 Siberian 0.7
11 Amerindian 0.43
12 Oceanian 0.4

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/BXLTJUa.png

66 - Mr.G (Hungarian, German, British)

[Vojnik]

It's incredible to see some North Eastern Europeans with no East Med or West Asian admixture at all, makes me feel very wog.

Who can beat me in the wogginess contest? :p

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
East_Med
17.22


2
North_Sea
16.73


3
Baltic
14


4
Atlantic
13.65


5
West_Med
13.09


6
West_Asian
11.03


7
Eastern_Euro
10.27


8
Red_Sea
4

</tbody>


Add me!

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/es94EDN.png

67 - Vojnik (Slavic Macedonian), colored in Red

[Kaspias]

Who can beat me in the wogginess contest? :p

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
East_Med
17.22


2
North_Sea
16.73


3
Baltic
14


4
Atlantic
13.65


5
West_Med
13.09


6
West_Asian
11.03


7
Eastern_Euro
10.27


8
Red_Sea
4

</tbody>


Add me!

Me? :D

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Me? :D

You win the Chink contest, bro.

[Arhat]

Half Afghan half Lithuanian siblings

#1
Population
North_Sea 14.64 Pct
Atlantic 10.12 Pct
Baltic 17.52 Pct
Eastern_Euro 17.25 Pct
West_Med 2.11 Pct
West_Asian 15.67 Pct
East_Med 6.52 Pct
Red_Sea 0.63 Pct
South_Asian 13.58 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.93 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.23 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.81 Pct

#2
Population
North_Sea 11.94 Pct
Atlantic 13.77 Pct
Baltic 18.44 Pct
Eastern_Euro 19.30 Pct
West_Med 0.99 Pct
West_Asian 13.06 Pct
East_Med 7.81 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 12.84 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.71 Pct
Amerindian 0.50 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.52 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.12 Pct

Lithuanian mother

Population
North_Sea 20.63 Pct
Atlantic 15.63 Pct
Baltic 33.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 24.21 Pct
West_Med 3.28 Pct
West_Asian 0.84 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.00 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.44 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 3.64
2 Belorussian 4.34
3 Estonian_Polish 4.37
4 Southwest_Russian 6.14
5 Russian_Smolensk 6.83
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.15
7 Estonian 7.27
8 Polish 7.57
9 Ukrainian 9.52
10 South_Polish 9.71
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.87
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.73
13 Erzya 10.91
14 East_Finnish 13.72
15 Finnish 15.01
16 Croatian 15.97
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.3
18 La_Brana-1 17.61
19 Moldavian 18.03
20 Hungarian 18.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Lithuanian + 21.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.59
2 81.8% Lithuanian + 18.2% Erzya @ 2.77
3 59.6% Lithuanian + 40.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.87
4 86.1% Lithuanian + 13.9% East_Finnish @ 2.93
5 93.5% Lithuanian + 6.5% Chuvash @ 2.97
6 94.9% Lithuanian + 5.1% Mari @ 3.05
7 74.9% Lithuanian + 25.1% Southwest_Russian @ 3.18
8 80.6% Lithuanian + 19.4% Polish @ 3.24
9 63.9% Lithuanian + 36.1% Belorussian @ 3.25
10 97% Lithuanian + 3% MA-1 @ 3.29
11 80.8% Lithuanian + 19.2% Estonian @ 3.29
12 90.8% Lithuanian + 9.2% Finnish @ 3.32
13 91.6% Lithuanian + 8.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.33
14 81.6% Lithuanian + 18.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.34
15 94.5% Lithuanian + 5.5% North_Swedish @ 3.39
16 87.4% Lithuanian + 12.6% Ukrainian @ 3.4
17 95.2% Lithuanian + 4.8% Tatar @ 3.43
18 83.3% Lithuanian + 16.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.44
19 89.4% Lithuanian + 10.6% South_Polish @ 3.47
20 96.3% Lithuanian + 3.7% Norwegian @ 3.48


Afghan father

Population
North_Sea 4.66 Pct
Atlantic 4.50 Pct
Baltic 4.15 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.32 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 30.47 Pct
East_Med 13.27 Pct
Red_Sea 0.77 Pct
South_Asian 24.35 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.66 Pct
Siberian 3.48 Pct
Amerindian 0.57 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.49 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 6.15
2 Tadjik 9.46
3 Balochi 9.51
4 Brahui 10.57
5 Makrani 10.97
6 Afghan_Uzbeki 11.79
7 Afghan_Tadjik 11.98
8 Turkmen 13.51
9 Kalash 15.64
10 Pathan 17.02
11 Burusho 18.42
12 Kumyk 21.25
13 Tabassaran 21.67
14 Iranian 21.73
15 Azeri 21.76
16 Lezgin 21.89
17 Punjabi_Jat 22.12
18 Sindhi 22.86
19 Kurdish 23.25
20 Kabardin 24.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.3% Balochi + 20.7% Tatar @ 2.66
2 77.5% Brahui + 22.5% Tatar @ 2.82
3 88.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.31
4 86.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 13.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.48
5 87.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 12.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.49
6 89.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 10.9% Palestinian @ 3.49
7 89.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 10.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.53
8 88.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.8% Cyprian @ 3.55
9 81.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.9% Azeri @ 3.55
10 89.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 10.7% Samaritan @ 3.57
11 50.2% Tadjik + 49.8% Balochi @ 3.58
12 88.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.3% Jordanian @ 3.6
13 88.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 11.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.65
14 83.3% Afghan_Pashtun + 16.7% Turkish @ 3.66
15 87.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 12.3% Syrian @ 3.69
16 82.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 17.6% Kurdish @ 3.7
17 87.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 12.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.71
18 86.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 13.2% Assyrian @ 3.76
19 81.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 18.5% Iranian @ 3.76
20 91.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 8.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.77

Cool to see some other Balto-Slavic-Pashtun results. What is their y-dna? It seems that i am on the cline like this Lithuanian-Pashtuns so my Slavic ancestors were Baltic/Belarusian-like what makes sense because they were mostly from the southwest. My mtdna is also typical for the Baltic region today

[Leto]

Cool to see some other Balto-Slavic-Pashtun results. What is their y-dna? It seems that i am on the cline like this Lithuanian-Pashtuns so my Slavic ancestors were Baltic/Belarusian-like what makes sense because they were mostly from the southwest. My mtdna is also typical for the Baltic region today
Their Y-DNA is R1a. Yes, a nice mix, but unfortunately their father seems to be Muslim, so not much 'Aryan' culture about them. They live in Germany by the way.

[Arhat]

Their Y-DNA is R1a. Yes, a nice mix, but unfortunately their father seems to be Muslim, so not much 'Aryan' culture about them. They live in Germany by the way.

Yeah i was very lucky that my grandfather was a communist and never cared about religion.