Do Punjabis look like Tamils with lighter skin?

[Questioner]

I've seen both groups they both have Indic features. Their skin colours are different but their facial features are similar.

Punjabis

https://www.icytales.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Bhangra.jpg
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https://noorulaminpix.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/179002_183699324983732_181367178550280_561901_2384 725_n.jpg
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/image_data/file/13433/man-farmer-pakistan.jpg
https://www.worldwatchmonitor.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/518-1.jpg
https://www.hindustantimes.com/rf/image_size_960x540/HT/p2/2018/04/20/Pictures/garhshankar-resident-pakistan-kiran-married-photo-pakistani_1b01809c-44ac-11e8-9c90-d40a08109dff.jpg
http://www.asianfortunenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/mela-1.jpg

[Questioner]

Tamils

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https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/article23543663.ece/alternates/FREE_660/SRILANKAWARREFUGEES
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[Borealis]

we all look similar

[Questioner]

we all look similar

Both punjabis and Tamils have range from sharp to not sharp features

[Dna8]

Same general meta aesthetic.

But I'm sure for Indic eyes the differences are plain too.

[Borealis]

That is a very unsightly crowd at the top btw

[Thambi]

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d728c55ee916f4164f1bd3f917f936a1.webp

This picture exists for a reason. Although exaggerated with the explanation, the faces in that picture are relatively common for their respective regions. From afar, most indians will look like brown blobs but if you observe their features, facial metrics, skin texture, head sizes, and other factors closely there are huge differences.

I have not been to punjab but I have been to rajasthan and western UP. South indians in these areas stand out quite easily.

[Questioner]

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d728c55ee916f4164f1bd3f917f936a1.webp

This picture exists for a reason. Although exaggerated with the explanation, the faces in that picture are relatively common for their respective regions. From afar, most indians will look like brown blobs but if you observe their features, facial metrics, skin texture, head sizes, and other factors closely there are huge differences.

I have not been to punjab but I have been to rajasthan and western UP. South indians in these areas stand out quite easily.

Do non south Asians see these differences?

[Thambi]

Do others except south Asians see these differences?

if they see differences between koreans, chinese, and japanese LOLL then I dont see why they would have trouble differentiating punjabis and tamils

[Questioner]

if they see differences between koreans, chinese, and japanese LOLL then yes I'd definitely expect them to see differences between tamils and punjabis.

true

They're genetically so similar
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[NPKTO]

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d728c55ee916f4164f1bd3f917f936a1.webp

This picture exists for a reason. Although exaggerated with the explanation, the faces in that picture are relatively common for their respective regions. From afar, most indians will look like brown blobs but if you observe their features, facial metrics, skin texture, head sizes, and other factors closely there are huge differences.

I have not been to punjab but I have been to rajasthan and western UP. South indians in these areas stand out quite easily.
South Indian pictures are heavily cherrypicked imo. They should've cherrypicked from upper caste South Indians if they want to do fair comparison lol. Anyways, I do think there's some difference between North and South India. Northwest India was migration/invasion corridor to South Asia, so they're more phenotypically diverse than rest of South Asia.

[Borealis]

South Indian pictures are heavily cherrypicked imo. They should've cherrypicked from upper caste South Indians if they want to do fair comparison lol. Anyways, I do think there's some difference between North and South India. Northwest India was migration/invasion corridor to South Asia, so they're more phenotypically diverse than rest of South Asia.

Yeah, they always pick Tamils and shit like that. A lot of Kerala people and mid castes dont look horribly different from other Indians.

[Thambi]

true

They're genetically so similar

This chart is very outdated. Check out some gedmatch results.

This PCA below demonstrates how diverse indians are. tamil brahmins and tamil dalits are as different from each other as northern europeans are from kurds. With addition of pakistanis(similar to indian punjabis) and irulas (tribals), the differences are immense.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TEdgg08HnTI/AAAAAAAACgg/SHVjodGXK8g/s1600/eurasian-pca.jpg

[Questioner]

South Indian pictures are heavily cherrypicked imo. They should've cherrypicked from upper caste South Indians if they want to do fair comparison lol. Anyways, I do think there's some difference between North and South India. Northwest India was migration/invasion corridor to South Asia, so they're more phenotypically diverse than rest of South Asia.


If you change colours I think they can still pass for each other in that picture

[Questioner]

This chart is very outdated. Check out some gedmatch results.

This PCA below demonstrates how diverse indians are. tamil brahmins and dalits are as different from each other as northern europeans are from kurds. With addition of pakistanis(similar to punjabis) and irulas (tribals), the differences are immense.


Lol i don't think so

The differences aren't that big.

[Borealis]

Lol i don't think so

The differences aren't that big.

They are that big. Trust me. Genetically speaking at least because phenotype is a different story with lots of overlap.

[Questioner]

They are that big. Trust me. Genetically speaking at least because phenotype is a different story with lots of overlap.

There's some genetic difference but its much less than difference between kurds and northern europe.

The PCA was published before the chart so how can the chart be outdated if the PCA isn't?

[Borealis]

There's some genetic difference but its much less than difference between kurds and northern europe.

The PCA was published before the chart so how can the chart be outdated if the PCA isn't?

Okay actually yes on G25 the difference appears to be less but its still pretty large. I used Mala as substitute for TN scheduled caste. The distance between kurd and norwegian is 18 while Mala and TN Brahmin is 10.

[lameduck]

there are some similarities between all south asians (because of ancient shared ancestry), i have seen Sirilankans who look paki punjabi to me, but when you will take large groups differences will be obvious to natives.

[Thambi]

There's some genetic difference but its much less than difference between kurds and northern europe.

The PCA was published before the chart so how can the chart be outdated if the PCA isn't?

This new PCA shows similar trend. Its more recent than the other two charts.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/PCA_of_the_combined_autosomal_SNP_data_of_Jewish_a nd_Eurasians.png

[Borealis]

im so tired about how all these studies revolve around jews man

[Chocolate_Hound]

Same general meta aesthetic.

But I'm sure for Indic eyes the differences are plain too.

It's not just the eyes. The mouth and teeth are also a dead giveaway

[Corporate_Demolisher]

Tamils are significantly uglier. You don't know "ugly" until you've seen a South Indian

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Not all, but some do. There's definitely differing origins, imo.

[Tsuin]

No

[Santo]

As someone who lives in an area with many Punjabis, hell no they do not. Punjabi and Tamil people look radically different.

[Lobster]

Yes, both are darker Caucasoids

[Khinerai]

if they see differences between koreans, chinese, and japanese LOLL then I dont see why they would have trouble differentiating punjabis and tamils

Dont underestimate the ignorance of the anthrotard, anybody who is not pasty white all look the same to them