Do you think that Latinos would look more white if Italians colonized new world instead of spain

[swiftie13]

do you think mestizo would look different .. I think they would look more white since Italy is more Germanic influced than Iberia and had alot of ethnic origins like dinarid atlanto med and subnordid and norics and alpine
unlike Iberia that is the most mena and SSA influnced country in Europe (only 14km away from Morocco)

[Dna8]

Both Italian and Iberian "darkies" look patently European, mate.

[swiftie13]

Both Italian and Iberian "darkies" look patently European, mate.

I disagree I myself think Italian look more euro , ... Italy borders Austria .. it's not like France .. it must be very Germanic influnce in the north .
rather than Iberia ..

[Borealis]

I refuse to view the Spanish as white. They are anything but

[Dna8]

I disagree I myself think Italian look more euro , ... Italy borders Austria .. it's not like France .. it must be very Germanic influnce in the north .
rather than Iberia ..

Germanic aesthetics aren't any more "native" to or "authentic" in Europe, than swarthy Euro aesthetics.

All the dark Euro aesthetics look patently European.

A few subgenres of Southern European aesthetics can "pass" in West Asia (but the overwhelming part of the Southern Euro aesthetic library is patently European and said library's core's books don't circulate in West Asia/NA)..

[Dna8]

The darkest Italian American in any gangster movie is always patently European looking..

[FinalFlash]

It wouldnt make much of a difference, if at all considering the prevalence of Amerindian admixture in your average Latino.

[swiftie13]

The darkest Italian American in any gangster movie is always patently European looking..

that because most of Italian American are immigrant from south if you go and see Italian Australian or Argentina they are much more lighter

[Zuh]

The darkest Italian American in any gangster movie is always patently European looking..

I honestly don't understand the porpuse of this thread but majority of Latinos from Latin America are over half Euro 50+%


https://i.imgur.com/JMIhkal.png

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263486-4-500-NEW-WORLD-Kits-from-Gedmatch-euro-ranges

[Dna8]

All patently Euro looking:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/31/john.cazale.documentary/t1larg.cazale.courtesy.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTUyNjkyMjk1OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjE1NjQ1._V1_U X214_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ4ODM3ODA3N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNzg1ODQ1._V1_U X214_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/91/99/b4/9199b4e1f142195b4d866918120b27f8--the-sopranos-tony-soprano.jpg?b=t
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNTQ5NDMxMzU4N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjQxODQ1._V1_U X140_CR0,0,140,209_AL_.jpg
https://icdn2.digitaltrends.com/image/joe-pesci-goodfellas-720x720.jpg
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/01/29/13/moltisanti.jpg?w968h681
https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_908w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/05/30/National-Politics/Images/Merlin_13743.jpg

[Dna8]

that because most of Italian American are immigrant from south if you go and see Italian Australian or Argentina they are much more lighter

you miss the point (both the dark and light ones are patently Euro and not NA/MENA)

[swiftie13]

I honestly don't understand the porpuse of this thread but majority of Latinos from Latin America are over half Euro 50+%


https://i.imgur.com/JMIhkal.png

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263486-4-500-NEW-WORLD-Kits-from-Gedmatch-euro-ranges

I know my friend but the euro heritage comes from Iberia at most , would they look different if the other half was Italian

[swiftie13]

you miss the point (both the dark and light ones are patently Euro and not NA/MENA)

I'm from NA and I 've seen alot of dark I specify Iberia and South Italian can pass totally in NA without problemo

[Dna8]

I'm from NA and I 've seen alot of dark I specify Iberia and South Italian can pass totally in NA without problemo

Of course (but this is more exception than rule)

Just because a Southern Euro is dark doesn't mean his aesthetic is synonymous with NA/West Asia

[Regnera]

I don't think so

[Rouxinol]

They'd look about the same pigmentation-wise.
Italians weren't seen as white in America or Australia until fairly recently (probably early to mid-20th century) and their migration was discouraged along with that of other Southern Europeans.
And I'd add that in terms of corruption, Latin America would be just as it is or even worse. Corruption in Italy is high and systemic. Look at the corruption perception index:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Corruption_Perception_index_2017.svg/2880px-Corruption_Perception_index_2017.svg.png

[Dna8]

The privileging of pale hair and pale eyes within the context of Europeanness, is a very recent phenomenon.

[CostaRicaBall]

Hmm...If the race mixing process is the same at our reality, no. Depend of what italians. If North Italians get in the ride it´s probably that the blonde hair and light eyes(mainly green and gray if you take account that blue+brown=green/gray eyes) were more frequently. But in terms of pigmentation can be the same result.

[sean]

Do you think that Latinos would look more white if Italians colonized new world instead of spain I think they would look more white since Italy is more Germanic influced than Iberia and had alot of ethnic origins like dinarid atlanto med and subnordid and norics and alpine unlike Iberia that is the most mena and SSA influnced country in Europe (only 14km away from Morocco)

Nope. Italians are homogeneously Mediterranean in phenotype just like Iberians. Genetically a dark Italian is equally Southern European as a fair skinned Italian (along with any given eye or hair colour) despite fantasies of foreign admixture from previous Germanic invasions. They generally have less Yamnaya admixture than those north of them like all other Southern European populations and they have a strong genetic base from Anatolia. Native American tribes in Latin America have ugly brown women, it won't make much difference to be honest (literally even the fattest ugliest Italian manlet today is above average because negroes and spics exist). Latinos with Italian blood are just as dark as their fully Iberian derived counterparts.

https://i.imgur.com/CmNNkWI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pZ6ol9s.jpg

[Figueiredo]

This forum has some posts that are true pearls of humor...
There are some ramblings about what it is to be white, what it is to be European, anyway, which are hilarious (or hideous, depending on the point of view).
This idea of ​​Italians being whiter than Spaniards, who are less white than Germans, who are less white than Swedes, who are whiter than I don't know who else is the kind of waste of time that doesn't bring anything productive.

[Marshall Theodore]

They would look the same.

[alnortedelsur]

Glad that they banned this Apricity account from Aermachi, the NordoPedo from Italic Retards.

And the answer to the thread question is NO

To Italic Retards members lurking in here: Hi there :wave:

[Latinus]

Weird thread.

Italians and Iberians have a big phenotypical overlap, so the bulk of the white population in Latam wouldn't look drastically diferent if Italians colonized here instead of the Spaniards and Portuguese.

The only diference is that there would be more dinaric, alpine and East med genetics in Latam, but most white Latinos would look very similar to the current ones.

And unless Italy had unified it's territory in the XV/XVI centuries, I don't think Italian would be the main language south of Rio Grande, but one of the many regional languages of Italy: Sicilian, Lombardian, etc.

[Laredo]

Weird thread.

Italians and Iberians have a big phenotypical overlap, so the bulk of the white population in Latam wouldn't look drastically diferent if Italians colonized here instead of the Spaniards and Portuguese.

The only diference is that there would be more dinaric, alpine and East med genetics in Latam, but most white Latinos would look very similar to the current ones.

And unless Italy had unified it's territory in the XV/XVI centuries, I don't think Italian would be the main language south of Rio Grande, but one of the many regional languages of Italy: Sicilian, Lombardian, etc.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?370120-Do-these-blonde-mexicans-pass-better-In-Italy-or-Spain-or-England

[Ranger0075]

Latin America would be full of Messis and Di Marias instead Agueros and Enzo Fernandez

[alnortedelsur]

We just need to compare if white Argentinians (who are mostly of Italian and Spanish stock, not only Italian, but still) are lighter/more blondish and light eyed on average compared to whites from countries like Colombia, Mexico, and to some extent Chile (whose main Euro ancestries are overwhelmingly Spanish). The answer is NO.

[Monapps]

We just need to compare if white Argentinians (who are mostly of Italian and Spanish stock, not only Italian, but still) are lighter/more blondish and light eyed on average compared to whites from countries like Colombia, Mexico, and to some extent Chile (whose main Euro ancestries are overwhelmingly Spanish). The answer is NO.

Do pure whites exist in Colombia, Mexico, Chile? I doubt it.

[Septentrion]

They would look the same.

They all look alike? This is racist! You are racist towards Southern Europeans, thinking of them as a bunch of identical twins. They sure aren't.

[Septentrion]

Do pure whites exist in Colombia, Mexico, Chile? I doubt it.

Yes, there are many pure White people there, but in a small minority.

[Septentrion]

do you think mestizo would look different .. I think they would look more white since Italy is more Germanic influced than Iberia and had alot of ethnic origins like dinarid atlanto med and subnordid and norics and alpine
unlike Iberia that is the most mena and SSA influnced country in Europe (only 14km away from Morocco)

My brother said that they would've been darker. According to him, Italians are darker-complected than Iberians.

[alnortedelsur]

Yes, there are many pure White people there, but in a small minority.

A strong minority. Not just a small minority.

[Monapps]

Yes, there are many pure White people there, but in a small minority.

There are only very few and of recent immigrant origin but here we're comparing white colonials of pure Spanish stock.
They must be 1% of the population if they exist at all.

[Marshall Theodore]

You are racist towards Southern Europeans.

Retard.