What does Nordo-Med phenotype look like?

[Regnera]

Is "Nordo-Med" a combination of Nordic and Med phenotype?Or a light med?Or a Nordish type with Med influence?Or other?

[Dna8]

Is "Nordo-Med" a combination of Nordic and Med phenotype?Or a light med?Or a Nordish type with Med influence?Or other?

it occurs when the classifier perceives a Northerness in the subject, but is also aware of the subject's non Germanic surname.

[alnortedelsur]

examples?

[Dna8]

examples?

this guy was described as Med/Nord

https://www.google.com/search?q=dusko+tosic&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWurPdn8LgAhVOXn0KHaWTDQQQ_AUIDigB&biw=1280&bih=610#imgrc=EcT5eeh0iTWI_M:

[Valwar]

You are probably familiar with the Atlantid phenotype? It is synonymous with Nordic-Mediterranean. The phenotype is intermediate between Nordic and Mediterranean, but individuals can lean closer to either Nordic or Mediterranean.

[CommonSense]

I just use it to describe people with both Nordic and Mediterranean traits, but who don't really fit under a specific phenotype such as Atlantid.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Usually it looks very fine.

https://informationcradle.com/europe/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Carla-Bruni-Jeune.jpg
https://s3.r29static.com//bin/entry/2dd/0,0,2000,1050/x,80/1670017/image.jpg
http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG10182085/p/carla-intro_2618672a.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/e9/54/6fe9544df3ededaa7862f243f723a47a.jpg
http://img2-ak.lst.fm/i/u/arO/ca776347701a47e99f5e4e4d3bf54337

[Ülev]

Nordo-Mediterraneo (Nordo-Mediterranean)

Il termine Nordo-Mediterraneo definisce un ibrido tra il fenotipo nordico e quello mediterraneo.
Come abbiamo visto in precedenza, secondo alcune teorie, anche l'atlantico sarebbe un ibrido di nordico e mediterraneo e quindi il termine nordo-mediterraneo sarebbe sinonimo di atlantico.

more there (Scroll down) ---> https://www.ilredpillatore.org/2017/10/fenotipo-atlantico-atlanto-mediterraneo.html

[Voskos]

Iberians and South Slavs.

[Columella]

Random pics of celebs are useless.
Hooton’s Nordic-Mediterraneans from iteland.
https://i2-wp-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/s/i2.wp.com/i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/Borntobeking/Nordo-Mediterranean1.jpg
https://i1-wp-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w680/s/i1.wp.com/i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/Borntobeking/plate5.jpg

[swiftie13]

Nordo med are just excotic or regular med with light pigmentation ( skin and eye color )

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Nordo med are just excotic or regular med with light pigmentation ( skin and eye color )

Nope, light med is just Med. You need to have actual Nordic elements to be nordo-med, like facial features or height.

[Regnera]

Is this man Nordo-Med
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjE3MjM0ODM4Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNzE1NTM0MDI@._ V1_SY1000_CR0,0,1286,1000_AL_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjIwOTk0MzM2N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMjMyNTYxOTE@._ V1_.jpg

[Joso]

It is literally a mix of nordid+med

[Joso]

It is literally a mix of nordid+med

https://ilsizzi.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/nordo-mediterranide.jpg

[Knight Slayer]

Nordic-Mediterranean is a term Hooton used. It's synonymous with the "Atlantid" term which was only used by one other author, whose name is v. Eickstedt, and it's comparable to Lundman's "Nord-Atlantid" type, which was stolen from Deniker's Northwestern type. The Northwestern type is also called Sub-Atlanto-Mediterranean by Deniker. They are the same type. It is primarily a northwestern European type, essentially a blue eyed Mediterranean with some degree of Alpine admixture, hence the "Sub" prefix.

Deniker considered the Northwestern to be a northern version of the Atlanto-Mediterranean type of Iberia and Southern Europe.

The thing is, Northwestern was an agreed upon term by both Deniker and Coon, as opposed to the Atlantic type or North-Atlantic type which only had support from the man who created it.

Here's what Coon said about Northwestern:


4. Northwest European--Most of Scandinavia, much of the British Isles, Northern France, the Benelux countries, and northwest Germany is inhabited by a population characterized by medium to tall stature, medium build, brown hair, mixed or blue eyes, light skin, straight to wavy hair of moderate abundance, and facial features intermediate between the fine chiselling of the Nordic or Mediterranean and the broader, fleshier Alpine (Plate 2). As types in this population one finds Nordics, Mediterraneans, and stocky, large-headed, broad-faced, often hairy individuals who may have such paleanthropic characters as large teeth and heavy brow ridges. This third type apparently recapitulates in some degree the pre-agricultural population of this region. Western Irish, Scots, Norwegians from the central coast, Swedes from new Goteberg, and certain other local groups deviate srongly in the direction of this type.

Now, from Deniker on the Atlanto-Mediterranean race and the Northwestern race:


5.Dark, mesocephalic, tall race, Littoral or Atlanto-Mediterranean race, so styles because it is found in a pure or mixed state along the shores of the Mediterranean from Gibraltar to mouth of the Tibur, and on several points of the Atlantic coast, from the straits of Gibraltar to the mouth of the Guadalquivair, on the Bay of Biscay, in the lower valley of the Loire, ect. It is not met with anywhere at a greater distance that 120 or 150 miles from the sea. This Littoral race is still little studied; it is distinguished by its moderate dolichocephaly or mesocephaly (ceph. ind. on living subjects 79 to 80), by its stature above the average (im. 66), and very deep colouring of the hair and eyes. It corresponds pretty well with the "Mediterranean race" of Houze, and with the Cro-Magnon race of certain authors. It is probably with the Littoral race that we must connect a secondary so-called North-Western race, tall, sub-dolichocephalic, with chestnut hair, often almost brown. It found chiefly in a the north-west of Ireland(Fig. 93), in Wales(Fig. 19) and the east of Belgium.

[Knight Slayer]

Random pics of celebs are useless.
Hooton’s Nordic-Mediterraneans from iteland.
https://i2-wp-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/s/i2.wp.com/i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/Borntobeking/Nordo-Mediterranean1.jpg
https://i1-wp-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w680/s/i1.wp.com/i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/Borntobeking/plate5.jpg

What are your thoughts on the Northwestern type that Deniker and Coon spoke of? I just wrote a comment on it here in this thread.

[alnortedelsur]

I am very curious, since at least 3 forum members (as far as I remember) who have seen my pics, have classified me as mostly Nordo med.

[Bellbeaking]

Wales irleand and cornwall have these types, even though there isn't med ancestry there genetically

[stemm99]

85166

[Knight Slayer]

I am very curious, since at least 3 forum members (as far as I remember) who have seen my pics, have classified me as mostly Nordo med.

Where are your pics?

[alnortedelsur]

Where are your pics?

https://i.imgur.com/zIOQd4E.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Lf1iCxt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/C0UmaMx.jpg

[Columella]

What are your thoughts on the Northwestern type that Deniker and Coon spoke of? I just wrote a comment on it here in this thread.

Coon later North Western is an umbrella type that comprises many of his. Nordic, blue eyesd atlanto med and Bruenn types of his previous work.
It works well imo because it doesn’t insist much on filiation and origins but on a generalised NW look that we can all easily observe.

[Knight Slayer]

Coon later North Western is an umbrella type that comprises many of his. Nordic, blue eyesd atlanto med and Bruenn types of his previous work.
It works well imo because it doesn’t insist much on filiation and origins but on a generalised NW look that we can all easily observe.

Thank you. I have a great respect for your opinion.

[alnortedelsur]

https://i.imgur.com/zIOQd4E.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Lf1iCxt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/C0UmaMx.jpg


Thank you. I have a great respect for your opinion.

What do you think? I please need an answer soon, because I want to retire my pics, since this is on an open section. Thanks in advance.

[Knight Slayer]

What do you think? I please need an answer soon, because I want to retire my pics, since this is on an open section. Thanks in advance.

Not the best quality pictures but just Mediterranean of some type.

[alnortedelsur]

Not the best quality pictures but just Mediterranean of some type.

Interesting. If I told you that I got deep blue eyes and chestnut hair (the pictures are not of very good lighting) would you still think that I look just Mediterranean?

[Knight Slayer]

Interesting. If I told you that I got deep blue eyes and chestnut hair (the pictures are not of very good lighting) would you still think that I look just Mediterranean?

Yes because metrically Mediterraneans and Nordics are not that different. It's mostly a matter of pigmentation.

[alnortedelsur]

Yes because metrically Mediterraneans and Nordics are not that different. It's mostly a matter of pigmentation.

My skin color is not much different from that of the guy in my avatar. I get sun burned easier than tanned, my face is also very sensible to the sunlight, and I have some freckles on my back.

[Útrám]

An obstacle with this classification is that it's a hybrid of two cousin types. Dark Nords can look Med and light Meds can look Nord, you have to have an eye for facial peculiarities to discern the difference, and even then local variations can be deceiving.

This Swedish actor from Stockholm. And no his last name is a French-inspired stage name. This guy just looks Hallstatt to me.

https://i.imgur.com/n3GEvxZ.png

[Dna8]

An obstacle with this classification is that it's a hybrid of two cousin types. Dark Nords can look Med and light Meds can look Nord, you have to have an eye for facial peculiarities to discern the difference, and even then local variations can be deceiving.

This Swedish actor from Stockholm. And no his last name is a French-inspired stage name. This guy just looks Hallstatt to me.

https://i.imgur.com/n3GEvxZ.png

IMO:

The best/truest way to classify Europeans is along the following lines:

Southern Vs Northern
Western Vs Eastern

With all variations being described at core, as inclined North/South, East/West.

[Sizzo]

I think I'm a good example:

http://i63.tinypic.com/25zi33p.jpg

[Joso]

I think I'm a good example:

...

Yes, you are! Even though you look more like a dark haired nordid to me.

[Joso]

I think I'm a good example:

...

Btw, how tall are you?

[cass]

Nordid/Mediterranid intermediate (NW Type) Deniker's Nord-Occidentale type

Swiss examples

https://imgbbb.com/images/2019/03/08/ae-432-2-3-3.jpg (https://imgbbb.com/image/VltkR)

https://i.ibb.co/Gx7CSqB/ae-4309434343-4334a.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
Schlaginhaufen O., Anthropologia Helvetica, 1947

Poles
https://imgbbb.com/images/2019/03/08/AE-0289092191.jpg (https://imgbbb.com/image/Vl15N)
Kapica Z., Z badań łódzkiego ośrodka antropologicznego nad taksonomicznym zróżnicowaniem procesu migracji, Zeszyty Naukowe UŁ. Nauki Matematyczne-Przyrodnicze. Seria II, zeszyt 56, 1974, s. 51-80

https://i.ibb.co/0hLqBzs/20150227-171716.jpg (https://ibb.co/vZW1sMX)
Michalski I., Metoda morfologiczna w zastosowaniu do określenia taksonomicznego materiału ludzkiego (oraz dyskusja do artykułu), Przegląd Antropologiczny, t. XIX, Poznań 1953

https://i.ibb.co/4FLf6rb/20150227-171823.jpg (https://ibb.co/gr875K0)
Becker M. i Łukaczk B., Migracje żeńskie powiatów płockiego i sierpeckiego, Zeszyty Naukowe UŁ. Nauki Matematyczne-Przyrodnicze. Seria II, zeszyt 3, 1976, s. 39-49

Macedonian
https://i.ibb.co/D92B2R2/ae-211.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
Miszkiewicz B, Antropologische Struktur der Mazedonischen Bevölkerung [w:] Materiały i Prace Antropologiczne, 62, 1961

Spanish/German mix
https://i.ibb.co/vZ3w08T/ae-434343.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
https://i.ibb.co/f1SFVST/ae-4453544554545443432.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
Schaeuble J., Anthropologische Studien in den sogenannten Colonias alemanas Südspaniens, Zeitschrift für Morphologie und Anthropologie, Bd. 48, H. 2 (Juni 1957), pp. 151-202

[Sizzo]

Btw, how tall are you?

180 cm.

[Joso]

180 cm.

Ok. Even though i joined the forum very recently, i see you hadn't posted from a long time, welcome back! I have another question if it doesn't bother you but this is the last one: Is your phenotype common in Northern Italy?

[Latinus]

I think I'm a good example:

...


North Atlantid???/

[Sizzo]

Ok. Even though i joined the forum very recently, i see you hadn't posted from a long time, welcome back! I have another question if it doesn't bother you but this is the last one: Is your phenotype common in Northern Italy?

I think so, it's not uncommon, even if the main types are others (Alpinid, Padana type, Atlanto-Mediterranid).

[Regnera]

I think I'm a good example:

http://i63.tinypic.com/25zi33p.jpg

You're back,man.

[Regnera]

I think so, it's not uncommon, even if the main types are others (Alpinid, Padana type, Atlanto-Mediterranid).

What is a Padana type?

[Joso]

What is a Padana type?

Padana is how the anthropologist Biasutti called the Italian dinarids. He prefered the term "Padana type" because he thought the synonims "dinarid" and "adriatic" should not be used when reffering to Italians.

[Sizzo]

What is a Padana type?

As Jolsonaro said is a sort of North Italian Dinarid typical of the Po plain. Quite a mix between Adriatid/Dinarid and Atlanto-Mediterranid.

Here's a good example (Vittorio Feltri, Bergamask journalist):

http://i64.tinypic.com/29dvc5i.jpg

[Septentrion]

180 cm.

I am approximately 17-18cm taller than you are. I am predominantly of the Keltic Nordic phenotype with some Borreby tendencies.

[Útrám]

Swedish dad, French mom = master race beauty

https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/3467989/933full-sigrid-agren.jpg

[kleenex]

this guy was described as Med/Nord

https://www.google.com/search?q=dusko+tosic&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWurPdn8LgAhVOXn0KHaWTDQQQ_AUIDigB&biw=1280&bih=610#imgrc=EcT5eeh0iTWI_M:

Not a nord med but much more Berid looking in my opinion.

[kleenex]

Swedish dad, French mom = master race beauty

https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/3467989/933full-sigrid-agren.jpg

That's not a racial phenotype but certainly a Med leaning Nord type; very large eyes which is Eastern shifted.

[kleenex]

Is this man Nordo-Med
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjE3MjM0ODM4Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNzE1NTM0MDI@._ V1_SY1000_CR0,0,1286,1000_AL_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjIwOTk0MzM2N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMjMyNTYxOTE@._ V1_.jpg

No he leans Dinarid. Look at his nose in proportion to head size.

[Imad]

Mediterranean with nordic

[Útrám]

That's not a racial phenotype

It is. Meds and Nords objectively produce more Stacies and Chads, and that's measurable.

The beauty of these cousin phenotypes should be extolled.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/dc/42/5ddc429e5ab72e45b43d30c141655850.jpg

[Regnera]

Swedish dad, French mom = master race beauty

https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/3467989/933full-sigrid-agren.jpg

Not my type,she looks too manly.

[Zroota]

Chris Evans comes in mind when I think "Nordo-Med":

https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/gettyimages-524622586.jpg

[Chaos One]

Not my type,she looks too manly.

...she looks like José Mourinho at some degree. Weird.

[Imad]

Chris Evans comes in mind when I think "Nordo-Med":

https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/gettyimages-524622586.jpg

He is north Atlantid

75%nordic 25% Mediterranean

Atlantid is 50% Nordic 50% Mediterranean

[dosas]

My father was classified by some members as such but I am not sure, I am not convinced of his Nordic input.

https://i.ibb.co/FWzKJXn/IMG-20190309-0001.jpg

[Rædwald]

Some people have described me as Nordo-Med

https://i.postimg.cc/BQ6ZjwwP/20231217.jpg

[Beowulf]

I was sometimes classified as such + CM or Brunn

[Kess]

I just use it to describe people with both Nordic and Mediterranean traits, but who don't really fit under a specific phenotype such as Atlantid.

+1

[cmt160]

"Nordo-Mediterranid" is synonimous with "North Atlantid" as far as I know.

[Xacal]

Usually it looks very fine.

https://informationcradle.com/europe/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Carla-Bruni-Jeune.jpg
https://s3.r29static.com//bin/entry/2dd/0,0,2000,1050/x,80/1670017/image.jpg
http://ris.fashion.telegraph.co.uk/RichImageService.svc/imagecontent/1/TMG10182085/p/carla-intro_2618672a.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/e9/54/6fe9544df3ededaa7862f243f723a47a.jpg
http://img2-ak.lst.fm/i/u/arO/ca776347701a47e99f5e4e4d3bf54337

She is Subnordid + Armenoid

[Kess]

She is Subnordid + Armenoid

She is Bella Hadid, right? Well, she used to be Armenoid+Subnordid, but she is now Faelid after all the surgeries.

[Xacal]

Female example, Mexican singer Anahi:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/63/b9/bf/63b9bf024cfabb3b31b1a5772915d155.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/b7/96/73b79647ccc8c1ab5f5c92b26c469475.jpg

Male example, Argentine actor Michel Brown:
https://br.web.img2.acsta.net/pictures/21/05/31/16/45/2936703.jpg

[drb234]

This runt
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNGJlMTg5NTctZDk5ZS00MWU2LTk3OWItYjNiMTNhZmI5Mj E5XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyOTE0NjgwMjY@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.j pg