Results of a Muslim/Bosniak from Montenegrin Sandžak!

[CommonSense]

I already posted them in my Serbian matches PCA thread and Pribislav, with good reason, suggested I should open a seperate one for him:


I guess I should post this guy here too, this is an extraordinary find, I can't believe I let it slip.

Anywhow, this man is a muslim from the Montenegrin part of Sandzak, a place called Vrbica. He has an Albanian haplogroup, R-Y32147 and among his relatives a ton are Albanians and one of the top matches is the banned member 'The Illyrian Warrior'. Interestingly, even despite that it seems he is closer to us than to the average Gheg.

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.96
2 North_Atlantic 23.97
3 West_Med 18.86
4 East_Med 17.28
5 West_Asian 9.43
6 Red_Sea 2.09
7 Siberian 0.76
8 Amerindian 0.65

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.29
2 Serbian 4.27
3 Bulgarian 4.71
4 Moldavian 9.17
5 Croatian 11.7
6 Hungarian 11.93
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
8 Austrian 14.77
9 East_German 16.37
10 North_Italian 16.46
11 Tuscan 17.25
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.24
13 South_Polish 18.99
14 West_German 19.23
15 Italian_Abruzzo 19.33
16 Ukrainian 19.41
17 French 19.58
18 Central_Greek 19.99
19 West_Sicilian 20.49
20 South_Dutch 20.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.5% Croatian + 47.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2
2 67.7% Croatian + 32.3% South_Italian @ 2.22
3 59.8% Greek_Thessaly + 40.2% South_Polish @ 2.33
4 60.3% Greek_Thessaly + 39.7% Ukrainian @ 2.34
5 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Croatian @ 2.37
6 63.9% Greek_Thessaly + 36.1% Polish @ 2.41
7 63.4% Croatian + 36.6% Central_Greek @ 2.42
8 55.6% Ukrainian + 44.4% South_Italian @ 2.44
9 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% East_German @ 2.47
10 51.4% Ukrainian + 48.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.51
11 64% Croatian + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.55
12 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.56
13 53.7% Serbian + 46.3% Bulgarian @ 2.59
14 85% Romanian + 15% Croatian @ 2.6
15 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Polish @ 2.6
16 82.8% Bulgarian + 17.2% South_Polish @ 2.62
17 64.8% Croatian + 35.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
18 90.6% Romanian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.62
19 83.1% Bulgarian + 16.9% Ukrainian @ 2.63
20 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.64

Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.05
2 North_Sea 16.28
3 Atlantic 15.88
4 West_Med 14.18
5 East_Med 14.14
6 Eastern_Euro 10.71
7 West_Asian 8.46
8 Red_Sea 1.98
9 Amerindian 0.31
10 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.57
2 Serbian 4.89
3 Bulgarian 4.91
4 Moldavian 8.55
5 Croatian 9.86
6 Hungarian 10.56
7 Austrian 10.91
8 Greek_Thessaly 11.92
9 Greek 12.86
10 East_German 14.82
11 North_Italian 14.89
12 Tuscan 15.14
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.91
14 South_Polish 16.47
15 Ukrainian 16.83
16 Italian_Abruzzo 17.48
17 French 17.88
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.24
19 Ashkenazi 18.28
20 Central_Greek 18.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Croatian + 45.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.75
2 69.2% Croatian + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.14
3 61.8% Greek_Thessaly + 38.2% Polish @ 2.21
4 65.5% Croatian + 34.5% Central_Greek @ 2.32
5 70.4% Bulgarian + 29.6% Hungarian @ 2.32
6 55.1% Hungarian + 44.9% Greek @ 2.34
7 56.9% Greek + 43.1% Ukrainian @ 2.36
8 55.5% Greek + 44.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.38
9 56.9% Croatian + 43.1% Greek @ 2.42
10 56.4% Ukrainian + 43.6% South_Italian @ 2.5
11 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% South_Polish @ 2.51
12 66.6% Croatian + 33.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.52
13 56.4% Greek + 43.6% South_Polish @ 2.53
14 57% South_Polish + 43% South_Italian @ 2.54
15 72.8% Croatian + 27.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.62
16 62.4% Greek_Thessaly + 37.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.69
17 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Ukrainian @ 2.7
18 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% East_German @ 2.72
19 65% Greek_Thessaly + 35% Estonian_Polish @ 2.75
20 52.8% Ukrainian + 47.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.77


Dodecad K12B:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.08
2 Atlantic_Med 27.54
3 Caucasus 23.58
4 Southwest_Asian 5.68
5 Gedrosia 5.17
6 Siberian 1.04
7 Northwest_African 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 5.76
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.22
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.66
4 Hungarians (Behar) 13.38
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.12
6 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.11
7 German (Dodecad) 17.84
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.22
9 Greek (Dodecad) 19.57
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.73
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.13
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.43
13 French (Dodecad) 20.99
14 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.04
15 French (HGDP) 21.13
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 22.65
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 24.4
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 24.66
19 English (Dodecad) 24.82
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 0.95
2 66.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 33.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.23
3 66.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 33.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.23
4 68.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.32
5 66.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 33.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.41
6 79.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.9% British (Dodecad) @ 1.43
7 78.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.46
8 79.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.3% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.5
9 79.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.2% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.53
10 79.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.53
11 77.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.57
12 77.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.1% English (Dodecad) @ 1.6
13 68.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.62
14 79.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.2% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.63
15 64.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.63
16 72.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.63
17 77.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 22.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.63
18 74.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.71
19 73.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.72
20 78.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.74


I made a PCA for him too. He plots right where the Montenegrin from Podgorica that Cumansky posted does. He's basically a typical Montenegrin, but considering he has Albanian admix we can only assume his Serbian ancestors from that region had quite northern DNA. If we had more samples like him, we could deduce if that's a general trend or not:

https://i.imgur.com/mOzOL3r.png

[CommonSense]

Not a lot of recent Albanian ancestry in this guy, unless the original Raška Serbs were Central-East European like:

puntDNAL K15 Oracle


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 45.25
2 Mediterranean 32.41
3 Caucasian 14.7
4 SW_Asian 4.55
5 Horn_Of_Africa 1.52
6 Siberian 0.78
7 Omo_River 0.43
8 S_Indian 0.33
9 Beringian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.64
2 Macedonian 3.65
3 Bosnian 4.61
4 Romanian 4.83
5 Bulgarian 5.54
6 French 6.86
7 Montenegrin 7.35
8 South_German 8.28
9 Croatian 8.95
10 Utahn_White 9
11 Italian 9.75
12 Hungarian 10.75
13 Irish 11.52
14 Austrian 11.61
15 Slovenian 11.91
16 English 12.03
17 Orcadian 12.44
18 Spaniard 12.54
19 Scottish 13.81
20 North_German 13.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% Tuscan + 44.5% Polish @ 1
2 71.9% Macedonian + 28.1% Utahn_White @ 1.02
3 55.7% Slovenian + 44.3% Albanian @ 1.04
4 77.4% Macedonian + 22.6% English @ 1.05
5 51.7% Greek_Thessaly + 48.3% Norwegian @ 1.06
6 70.2% Macedonian + 29.8% South_German @ 1.1
7 78.1% Macedonian + 21.9% Orcadian @ 1.1
8 79.9% Macedonian + 20.1% Scottish @ 1.12
9 53.7% Orcadian + 46.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.13
10 62% Montenegrin + 38% Slovenian @ 1.15
11 58.2% Slovenian + 41.8% Tuscan @ 1.15
12 58% Albanian + 42% Polish @ 1.15
13 71.6% Romanian + 28.4% Slovenian @ 1.15
14 71.6% Irish + 28.4% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.16
15 76.9% Orcadian + 23.1% Cypriot @ 1.18
16 52.2% Croatian + 47.8% Italian @ 1.2
17 68.4% Irish + 31.6% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.2
18 76.9% Macedonian + 23.1% Irish @ 1.2
19 81.5% Romanian + 18.5% Polish @ 1.22
20 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Swedish @ 1.23

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Well, he plots well inside Serbian cluster.

[Marmara]

Obviously they aren't part Turkish like many claimed here.

[Pribislav]

Obviously they aren't part Turkish like many claimed here.

In some Sandžak cities/towns settled Anatolians. This guy is probably villager. Villager Muslims were less mixed with "Turkuše" (Anatolians).

Interesting, Sandžakian Muslims from Serbian Sandžak are darker and more Anatolian shifted in looks than those from Montenegrin Sandžak.

[Ayetooey]

Obviously they aren't part Turkish like many claimed here.

Turks and Levantines settled and mixed in Novi Pazar and Tutin, not in random villages in Montenegrin Sandzak like where this guy is from.

[Kaspias]

Resembles me a Pomak result that i saw.

[Skerdilaid]

They trace their origins to North Albania, specifically Kelmendi region.

[Ayetooey]

From what I have read, the Muslims of Pljevlja, Prijepolje, Priboj and Nove Varoši are closest to Serbs/Montenegrins. Result from Plav or Tutin would probably bring a near pure Albanian result. Old Y dna charts from Sandzak dna project had less slavic Y dna than Albania proper.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

From what I have read, the Muslims of Pljevlja, Prijepolje, Priboj and Nove Varoši are closest to Serbs/Montenegrins. Result from Plav or Tutin would probably bring a near pure Albanian result. Old Y dna charts from Sandzak dna project had less slavic Y dna than Albania proper.

lol :rofl:

[Ayetooey]

lol :rofl:

Indeed, now Sandzak dna project has merged and become part of the "Bosniak" dna project; they also take Torbesh and Pomak results.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Indeed, now Sandzak dna project has merged and become part of the "Bosniak" dna project; they also take Torbesh and Pomak results.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/dda932d8614d549855bb2b533d45b4c6/tenor.gif

[Ford]

From what I have read, the Muslims of Pljevlja, Prijepolje, Priboj and Nove Varoši are closest to Serbs/Montenegrins. Result from Plav or Tutin would probably bring a near pure Albanian result. Old Y dna charts from Sandzak dna project had less slavic Y dna than Albania proper.

I managed to find a Bosniak from Prijepolje and he's quite north east from the Romanian dot on the k15 plot. His haplogroup is J2b1.

[CommonSense]

Turks and Levantines settled and mixed in Novi Pazar and Tutin, not in random villages in Montenegrin Sandzak like where this guy is from.

According to what he put in his family tree, this guy's direct paternal ancestors lived in that village from the 18th century onwards and the oldest two he listed were from another nearby village :D



Resembles me a Pomak result that i saw.

Aren't Pomaks supposed to cluster with Bulgarians?

[CommonSense]

I managed to find a Bosniak from Prijepolje and he's quite north east from the Romanian dot on the k15 plot. His haplogroup is J2b1.

Post his results here and I'll do the PCA

[Ford]

Post his results here and I'll do the PCA

Population
North_Sea 15.90
Atlantic 12.55
Baltic 16.88
Eastern_Euro 14.15
West_Med 12.99
West_Asian 12.12
East_Med 12.26
Red_Sea 2.10
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.59
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.45
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.99
2 Serbian 6.19
3 Bulgarian 6.63
4 Moldavian 7.23
5 Croatian 10.23
6 Hungarian 11.54
7 Austrian 12.65
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.25
9 Greek 14.36
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.57
11 East_German 15.89
12 South_Polish 16.31
13 Ukrainian 16.41
14 Tuscan 17.82
15 North_Italian 18.23
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.49
17 Ashkenazi 18.74
18 Italian_Abruzzo 18.77
19 Polish 19.04
20 Russian_Smolensk 19.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74% Moldavian + 26% Central_Greek @ 2.83
2 83% Moldavian + 17% Cyprian @ 2.87
3 77.7% Moldavian + 22.3% South_Italian @ 3.12
4 75.4% Moldavian + 24.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.14
5 68.3% Moldavian + 31.7% Greek @ 3.21
6 74.1% Moldavian + 25.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.24
7 85% Moldavian + 15% Armenian @ 3.29
8 74.2% Moldavian + 25.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.3
9 85.1% Moldavian + 14.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.34
10 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.34
11 85.1% Moldavian + 14.9% Assyrian @ 3.35
12 81.1% Moldavian + 18.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.41
13 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.42
14 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.42
15 66.8% Moldavian + 33.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.44
16 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.44
17 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Samaritan @ 3.54
18 82% Moldavian + 18% Turkish @ 3.56
19 53% Bulgarian + 47% Moldavian @ 3.56
20 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.59

[Kaspias]

According to what he put in his family tree, this guy's direct paternal ancestors lived in that village from the 18th century onwards and the oldest two he listed were from another nearby village :D




Aren't Pomaks supposed to cluster with Bulgarians?

Yeah they clustering with Bulgarians but there are some exceptions.

[Ayetooey]

According to what he put in his family tree, this guy's direct paternal ancestors lived in that village from the 18th century onwards and the oldest two he listed were from another nearby village :D




Aren't Pomaks supposed to cluster with Bulgarians?

Interesting. I would say based on the OP's results he is basically a Serb but with a Albanian paternal ancestor. His matches with Albanians don't mean too much as Albanians similar to Ashkenazi Jews are incredibly inbred, even having 1/16th Albanian would get you dozens of matches. Look at Richmond, 1/16th Ashkenazi and gets over 100 jews on gedmatch

[Skerdilaid]

Interesting. I would say based on the OP's results he is basically a Serb but with a Albanian paternal ancestor. His matches with Albanians don't mean too much as Albanians similar to Ashkenazi Jews are incredibly inbred, even having 1/16th Albanian would get you dozens of matches. Look at Richmond, 1/16th Ashkenazi and gets over 100 jews on gedmatch

Dude, you should be the last group to talk about inbreeding in Europe. You belong to PH908 for fucks sake - a group that only started expanding 1800 years ago and represents like over 30% of your nation. CTS10228 as whole that's only like 2000 years old is one of the major slavic haplos, like close to 100m slavs belong to it.

[CommonSense]

Population
North_Sea 15.90
Atlantic 12.55
Baltic 16.88
Eastern_Euro 14.15
West_Med 12.99
West_Asian 12.12
East_Med 12.26
Red_Sea 2.10
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.59
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.45
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.99
2 Serbian 6.19
3 Bulgarian 6.63
4 Moldavian 7.23
5 Croatian 10.23
6 Hungarian 11.54
7 Austrian 12.65
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.25
9 Greek 14.36
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.57
11 East_German 15.89
12 South_Polish 16.31
13 Ukrainian 16.41
14 Tuscan 17.82
15 North_Italian 18.23
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.49
17 Ashkenazi 18.74
18 Italian_Abruzzo 18.77
19 Polish 19.04
20 Russian_Smolensk 19.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74% Moldavian + 26% Central_Greek @ 2.83
2 83% Moldavian + 17% Cyprian @ 2.87
3 77.7% Moldavian + 22.3% South_Italian @ 3.12
4 75.4% Moldavian + 24.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.14
5 68.3% Moldavian + 31.7% Greek @ 3.21
6 74.1% Moldavian + 25.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.24
7 85% Moldavian + 15% Armenian @ 3.29
8 74.2% Moldavian + 25.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.3
9 85.1% Moldavian + 14.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.34
10 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.34
11 85.1% Moldavian + 14.9% Assyrian @ 3.35
12 81.1% Moldavian + 18.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.41
13 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.42
14 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.42
15 66.8% Moldavian + 33.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.44
16 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.44
17 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Samaritan @ 3.54
18 82% Moldavian + 18% Turkish @ 3.56
19 53% Bulgarian + 47% Moldavian @ 3.56
20 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.59

Here's his PCA (added to the one from the OP). This guy clusters similar to East Balkanites, which is odd considering the region should be western shifted compared to our average. He could have some actual West Asian ancestry pulling him so much to the east.

https://i.imgur.com/05iR8w9.png

Can you post his K13 and dodecad K12b too?

[Ford]

Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 37.89
2 Atlantic_Med 24.6
3 Caucasus 24.22
4 Gedrosia 5.71
5 Southwest_Asian 4.88
6 Northwest_African 2.1
7 Siberian 0.32
8 East_Asian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 5.44
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 6.72
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.72
4 Hungarians (Behar) 12.56
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.64
6 German (Dodecad) 18.14
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.3
8 Greek (Dodecad) 20.99
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 22.07
10 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.18
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 22.44
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.74
13 French (Dodecad) 23.3
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.37
15 French (HGDP) 23.51
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.75
17 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 25.16
18 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.8
19 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 25.95
20 English (Dodecad) 26.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.55
2 81.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 18.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.55
3 82.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.56
4 74.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.6
5 79.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.9% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.63
6 74.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 25.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.76
7 63.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.78
8 79.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.87
9 79.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.6% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.88
10 57.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.9
11 57% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 43% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.94
12 79.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.95
13 78.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.97
14 82.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.99
15 79.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3
16 79.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.3% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.02
17 78.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.02
18 82.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.02
19 63.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.03
20 69.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 30.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.06

Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.74
2 North_Atlantic 21.71
3 West_Med 16.75
4 East_Med 15.5
5 West_Asian 12.79
6 Red_Sea 1.79
7 Amerindian 0.91
8 East_Asian 0.57
9 Siberian 0.54
10 Sub-Saharan 0.27
11 Northeast_African 0.25
12 Oceanian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.17
2 Serbian 5.88
3 Bulgarian 5.89
4 Moldavian 7.37
5 Croatian 10.7
6 Hungarian 12.2
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.69
8 Austrian 15.78
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.73
10 East_German 17.11
11 South_Polish 17.9
12 Ukrainian 18.05
13 North_Italian 20.07
14 Tuscan 20.42
15 Southwest_Russian 20.83
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.83
17 West_German 21.06
18 Italian_Abruzzo 21.08
19 Polish 21.26
20 Central_Greek 21.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.2% Bulgarian + 43.8% Moldavian @ 2.15
2 83.6% Moldavian + 16.4% Cyprian @ 2.18
3 79.2% Bulgarian + 20.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.28
4 75.2% Moldavian + 24.8% Central_Greek @ 2.29
5 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Erzya @ 2.4
6 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.45
7 82.2% Bulgarian + 17.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.54
8 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.57
9 78.8% Moldavian + 21.2% South_Italian @ 2.57
10 81.2% Bulgarian + 18.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.58
11 77.2% Bulgarian + 22.8% Ukrainian @ 2.61
12 84.4% Bulgarian + 15.6% Lithuanian @ 2.65
13 76.6% Moldavian + 23.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.66
14 54.2% Ukrainian + 45.8% Central_Greek @ 2.69
15 77.5% Croatian + 22.5% Cyprian @ 2.7
16 67.8% Moldavian + 32.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.72
17 86.2% Moldavian + 13.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.77
18 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Central_Greek @ 2.78
19 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Polish @ 2.78
20 66.5% Bulgarian + 33.5% Croatian @ 2.78

[Pribislav]

Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 37.89
2 Atlantic_Med 24.6
3 Caucasus 24.22
4 Gedrosia 5.71
5 Southwest_Asian 4.88
6 Northwest_African 2.1
7 Siberian 0.32
8 East_Asian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 5.44
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 6.72
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.72
4 Hungarians (Behar) 12.56
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.64
6 German (Dodecad) 18.14
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.3
8 Greek (Dodecad) 20.99
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 22.07
10 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.18
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 22.44
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.74
13 French (Dodecad) 23.3
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 23.37
15 French (HGDP) 23.51
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.75
17 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 25.16
18 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.8
19 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 25.95
20 English (Dodecad) 26.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.55
2 81.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 18.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.55
3 82.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.56
4 74.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.6
5 79.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.9% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.63
6 74.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 25.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 2.76
7 63.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.78
8 79.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.87
9 79.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.6% Armenians (Behar) @ 2.88
10 57.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.9
11 57% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 43% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.94
12 79.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.95
13 78.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.97
14 82.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.7% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.99
15 79.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 3
16 79.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.3% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.02
17 78.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.02
18 82.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.02
19 63.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.03
20 69.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 30.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.06

Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.74
2 North_Atlantic 21.71
3 West_Med 16.75
4 East_Med 15.5
5 West_Asian 12.79
6 Red_Sea 1.79
7 Amerindian 0.91
8 East_Asian 0.57
9 Siberian 0.54
10 Sub-Saharan 0.27
11 Northeast_African 0.25
12 Oceanian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.17
2 Serbian 5.88
3 Bulgarian 5.89
4 Moldavian 7.37
5 Croatian 10.7
6 Hungarian 12.2
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.69
8 Austrian 15.78
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.73
10 East_German 17.11
11 South_Polish 17.9
12 Ukrainian 18.05
13 North_Italian 20.07
14 Tuscan 20.42
15 Southwest_Russian 20.83
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.83
17 West_German 21.06
18 Italian_Abruzzo 21.08
19 Polish 21.26
20 Central_Greek 21.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.2% Bulgarian + 43.8% Moldavian @ 2.15
2 83.6% Moldavian + 16.4% Cyprian @ 2.18
3 79.2% Bulgarian + 20.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.28
4 75.2% Moldavian + 24.8% Central_Greek @ 2.29
5 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Erzya @ 2.4
6 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.45
7 82.2% Bulgarian + 17.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.54
8 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.57
9 78.8% Moldavian + 21.2% South_Italian @ 2.57
10 81.2% Bulgarian + 18.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.58
11 77.2% Bulgarian + 22.8% Ukrainian @ 2.61
12 84.4% Bulgarian + 15.6% Lithuanian @ 2.65
13 76.6% Moldavian + 23.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.66
14 54.2% Ukrainian + 45.8% Central_Greek @ 2.69
15 77.5% Croatian + 22.5% Cyprian @ 2.7
16 67.8% Moldavian + 32.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.72
17 86.2% Moldavian + 13.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.77
18 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Central_Greek @ 2.78
19 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% Polish @ 2.78
20 66.5% Bulgarian + 33.5% Croatian @ 2.78

Is this some Sandžakian?

[Ford]

Is this some Sandžakian?

Yes, from Prijepolje.

[Pribislav]

Yes, from Prijepolje.

Expected results for that area.

I would like to see Sandžakians from Tutin, Novi Pazar, Sjenica and Rožaje.

[Ayetooey]

Novi pazar would be interesting, even in 1953 turks were 11 thousand out of 53 thousand, many of these then changed identity to "Muslim" in the next census, and finally bosniaks.

[Ford]

Expected results for that area.

I would like to see Sandžakians from Tutin, Novi Pazar, Sjenica and Rožaje.

I have a friend (100% Bosniak) whose mother is from Sjenica and I'm hoping he will test some time soon. Would be interesting.

[Ayetooey]

I have a friend (100% Bosniak) whose mother is from Sjenica and I'm hoping he will test some time soon. Would be interesting.

That would be good as he would likely get gedmatch matches of pure Sandzakians that would be useful to see.

[Insuperable]

Novi pazar would be interesting, even in 1953 turks were 11 thousand out of 53 thousand, many of these then changed identity to "Muslim" in the next census, and finally bosniaks.

Going by the census Bosniaks/Muslims declared as Turks and then again as Bosniaks/Muslims.

[Pribislav]

Škutor Insuperable is close to this Sandžakian guy whose results CommonSense puted for sure.

[Ayetooey]

Going by the census Bosniaks/Muslims declared as Turks and then again as Bosniaks/Muslims.

I can only see from 1953 where they are declared as Turks, and then Muslims the next census, do you have earlier census data?

[Insuperable]

I can only see from 1953 where they are declared as Turks, and then Muslims the next census, do you have earlier census data?

Check the composition of urban area below. If wiki is what you are looking at.

[Ryuk]

So far, have any sandzakian bearing the"Turkish" component been found?