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Grace O'Malley
02-18-2019, 09:58 AM
Do they fit anywhere else other than Ireland and parts of Britain?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-10c917ecdcdb8f8a4d18c6e813f2d78f

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/7/7f/Kerry-condon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131014052322

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/39/56/5739562208e5397f36d84f912e187cb4--god-loves-me-irish-men.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a7/cc/23a7ccf24bfa023f6ef361d457f4152f.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/7f/c2/7d7fc2023a5c121a15685a698237027a.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/c7/a5/b8c7a534fc6b3088029acc8531d4f9f4.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5P81h1AhszM/hqdefault.jpg

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
02-18-2019, 10:00 AM
Germany, Norway, and Benelux + north of France.

Dna8
02-18-2019, 10:02 AM
Some of them can pass only in British Isles (some in NW Europe too), some of them can also pass in Eastwards Continental Europe (tending North & East)

Kamal900
02-18-2019, 10:04 AM
I guess mostly in western Europe as a whole or something.

Rouxinol
02-18-2019, 10:48 AM
They pass across Western Europe.

Mopi Licinius Crassus
02-18-2019, 10:53 AM
most of my mothers's family have this colour combo

my maternal grandfather was pure irish by blood....black hair, blue eyes, fair skin...common enough amongst the irish

Grace O'Malley
02-18-2019, 11:06 AM
When people say Western Europe can they be more specific?

Rouxinol
02-18-2019, 11:12 AM
When people say Western Europe can they be more specific?

People and even organizations (CIA, UN) have different definitions. Mine is:
Belgium
France
Ireland
Luxembourg
Monaco
Netherlands
United Kingdom
Andorra
Portugal
Spain
Similar to CIA's.

Mopi Licinius Crassus
02-18-2019, 11:16 AM
People and even organizations (CIA, UN) have different definitions. Mine is:
Belgium
France
Ireland
Luxembourg
Monaco
Netherlands
United Kingdom
Andorra
Portugal
Spain
Similar to CIA's.

add west coast norwegian to that list :thumb001:

Grace O'Malley
02-18-2019, 11:28 AM
A couple more that I forgot and meant to post.

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/32/75/72/7069359/5/920x920.jpg

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2014/09/Byrne/lead_720_405.png?mod=1533691701

Mr.G
02-18-2019, 11:47 AM
As a whole I feel like darker Irish folks don't fit that well as south European. I can't get too specific about the country because I'm really not sure but I would put this group in western Europe for sure. I can see the men in the second and also last photo passing in SW Europe. I will say I think of boxer Katie Tylor as an Irish person that passes in East Europe, but not south. I find her look fascinating.

Deneb
02-18-2019, 11:52 AM
In a lot of countries, but outside of the British Isles their best place is France.

Grace O'Malley
02-18-2019, 12:52 PM
Here's a couple more. Ireland has a lot of this look.

https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/3064545/540full-maria-doyle-kennedy.jpg

http://www.highlandradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Patrick-McBrearty-550x371.jpg

Rouxinol
02-18-2019, 01:06 PM
As a whole I feel like darker Irish folks don't fit that well as south European. I can't get too specific about the country because I'm really not sure but I would put this group in western Europe for sure. I can see the men in the second and also last photo passing in SW Europe. I will say I think of boxer Katie Tylor as an Irish person that passes in East Europe, but not south. I find her look fascinating.

My opinion is that they fit more or less in the Atlantid spectrum of phenotypes that does exist in those countries. They wouldn’t be taken as foreigners for the most part or as exotic types.

Vasconcelos
02-18-2019, 01:13 PM
Here's a couple more. Ireland has a lot of this look.

I can tell you Maria Doyle Kennedy passes here - even if not typical - because she looks like an older version of my missus. They are oddly similar

renaissance12
02-18-2019, 01:16 PM
https://www.calcioweb.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/George-Best.jpg

One of my favourite football players when i was a kid... He was "crazy"..

Grace O'Malley
02-18-2019, 01:27 PM
https://www.calcioweb.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/George-Best.jpg

One of my favourite football players when i was a kid... He was "crazy"..

Yes he was a wild man.:) Apparently he had a near genius IQ and of course he was a very talented footballer. He could have had it all but drank himself to death. He is an icon though.

Erronkari
02-18-2019, 01:32 PM
The whole Atlantic Facade between Lisbone to Bergen.

renaissance12
02-18-2019, 01:32 PM
Yes he was a wild man.:) Apparently he had a near genius IQ and of course he was a very talented footballer. He could have had it all but drank himself to death. He is an icon though.

He loved too much alcohol...

He could have become one of the 3 greatest players ever if he wanted to.... Ciao George..

In my list he is in the first 10 best football players ever..

Deneb
02-18-2019, 01:45 PM
Duplicated

Septentrion
04-30-2020, 07:13 PM
The whole Atlantic Facade between Lisbone to Bergen.

Atlantic Facade, my foot!

Immanenz
04-30-2020, 07:17 PM
Do they fit anywhere else other than Ireland and parts of Britain?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-10c917ecdcdb8f8a4d18c6e813f2d78f

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/7/7f/Kerry-condon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131014052322

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/39/56/5739562208e5397f36d84f912e187cb4--god-loves-me-irish-men.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a7/cc/23a7ccf24bfa023f6ef361d457f4152f.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/7f/c2/7d7fc2023a5c121a15685a698237027a.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/c7/a5/b8c7a534fc6b3088029acc8531d4f9f4.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5P81h1AhszM/hqdefault.jpg

Almost all look very Nw- European: France and Germany being the best fit

Last guy looks kinda Spanish/ Italian to me

Septentrion
04-30-2020, 07:31 PM
Do they fit anywhere else other than Ireland and parts of Britain?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-10c917ecdcdb8f8a4d18c6e813f2d78f

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/7/7f/Kerry-condon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131014052322

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/39/56/5739562208e5397f36d84f912e187cb4--god-loves-me-irish-men.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a7/cc/23a7ccf24bfa023f6ef361d457f4152f.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/7f/c2/7d7fc2023a5c121a15685a698237027a.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/c7/a5/b8c7a534fc6b3088029acc8531d4f9f4.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5P81h1AhszM/hqdefault.jpg

The fact is that these Irish people despite the dark hair, they are just as pale or even paler - complexioned than any Northern European people. It is weird, how this combination is easily found in the western parts of Britain and throughout Ireland. Although, much less common in continental Europe. The area of the continent, where this people would most likely fit in is North - West Europe and Northern Europe where fair to pale complexion and light eyes are predominant:
Zone A

Iceland
Norway (South-West, West)
Sweden (West)
Denmark
Germany (North, North-West)
Netherlands
Belgium
France (North-West, North)

Zone B

Finland
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Poland (North)
Russia (North - West)
Byelorussia
Ukraine (North only)

I do not at all believe in the "Atlantic Facade" garbage theory.

Immanenz
04-30-2020, 07:57 PM
The fact is that these Irish people despite the dark hair, they are just as pale or even paler - complexioned than any Northern European people. It is weird, how this combination is easily found in the western parts of Britain and throughout Ireland. Although, much less common in continental Europe. The area of the continent, where this people would most likely fit in is North - West Europe and Northern Europe where fair to pale complexion and light eyes are predominant:
Zone A

Iceland
Norway (South-West, West)
Sweden (West)
Denmark
Germany (North, North-West)
Netherlands
Belgium
France (North-West, North)

Zone B

Finland
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Poland (North)
Russia (North - West)
Byelorussia
Ukraine (North only)

I do not at all believe in the "Atlantic Facade" garbage theory.

your division is garbage as well, you made up a geographical division without any data. North Atlantid is common in Britain and parts of NW Europe, otherwise its dillutted- end of story.
we can take Sweden as an example: i rather think you ll find them Stockholm (Sweden-East) than any other Swedish city, because of the diversity etc. Other smaller places (cities/villages) will look more univocal Nordic/Borreby/Baltid.
http://humanphenotypes.net/NorthAtlantid.html


there is a possible overlapp with North Pontid, but there is no evidence that North Pontid is more common in North Poland than Central Poland etc.
http://humanphenotypes.net/NorthPontid.html

Septentrion
05-30-2020, 03:44 PM
your division is garbage as well, you made up a geographical division without any data. North Atlantid is common in Britain and parts of NW Europe, otherwise its dillutted- end of story.
we can take Sweden as an example: i rather think you ll find them Stockholm (Sweden-East) than any other Swedish city, because of the diversity etc. Other smaller places (cities/villages) will look more univocal Nordic/Borreby/Baltid.
http://humanphenotypes.net/NorthAtlantid.html


there is a possible overlapp with North Pontid, but there is no evidence that North Pontid is more common in North Poland than Central Poland etc.
http://humanphenotypes.net/NorthPontid.html

Corrections. Firstly, a study has shown that ethnic Swedes of northern parts (with non - Saami admixtures of course) have a higher rate of dark hair than Southern Swedes (e.g. Stockholm) at 45% dark brown, but their ratio of light eyes is just as high or higher.
Secondly the North Pontid is not as light - eyed as the North Atlantid. Due to the fact that brown eyes are almost as common as blue eyes in the North Pontid. On the other hand, the North Atlantid is predominantly blue or light - eyed.
Thirdly the North Atlantid race is centered in the British Isles and progressively becomes "weaker" as one moves away from there. Due to the fact that light eyes (blue/gray/green) are more common in Northern Poland than Central/Southern Poland for example. The frequency of a "North Atlantid-looking" Polish person would be greater in the North. It is for that reason, I chose Northern Poland.

Zeno
05-30-2020, 03:48 PM
Pass in northwestern Europe mostly. Some can into southern Europe.

Septentrion
05-30-2020, 03:58 PM
Pass in northwestern Europe mostly. Some can into southern Europe.

Southern Europe has comparatively to Northern Europe where the North Atlantid race is centered, has a very low frequency for light eyes. Therefore, I don't see how North Atlantids can be numerous there, not possible. Only in individual cases.

Grace O'Malley
05-30-2020, 04:16 PM
Another one that fits this category is Sean Hughes RIP.

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11350111.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/Sean-Hughes-death.jpg
https://files.list.co.uk/images/2007/03/12/sean-hughes.jpg

Caitlin Murtagh

https://img.discogs.com/zrD2FaM-fb-yOZtWkPLAVYDyHnI=/fit-in/600x597/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():qualit y(90)/discogs-images/R-13154032-1548993409-2374.png.jpg

https://www.caitlinmurtagh.com/index_htm_files/2326@2x.jpg

Daco Celtic
05-30-2020, 04:28 PM
Hell's Kitchen (NYC), South Boston, Woodlawn, Bronx, Northeast Philly, Randall Manor

Grace O'Malley
05-30-2020, 04:33 PM
Hell's Kitchen (NYC), South Boston, Woodlawn, Bronx, Northeast Philly, Randall Manor

I'm watching The Irish Mob on Netflix. Just finished an episode about Jimmy "The Gent" Burke (Al Pacino played him in Goodfellas) and Danny Green (Kill The Irishman). I'm on an Irish Gangster binge at the moment thanks to that other thread. They had interviews with Henry Hill. VG program.

Daco Celtic
05-30-2020, 04:41 PM
I'm watching The Irish Mob on Netflix. Just finished an episode about Jimmy "The Gent" Burke (Al Pacino played him in Goodfellas) and Danny Green (Kill The Irishman). I'm on an Irish Gangster binge at the moment thanks to that other thread.

Very cool. I've always had a fascination with organized crime because I grew up in the most boring, uneventful suburb were that kinda stuff never happened. There are a lot of good books on the subject as well. Regarding where Irish would pass, I had rattled off some historic Irish-American neighborhoods but here is a more updated list:

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/genealogy/most-irish-cities-usa

Here’s a list of the most Irish city areas:
1. Boston, MA - 20.4%
2. Middlesex County, MA - 16.9%
3. Peabody, MA - 15.8%
4. Albany, NY - 15.6%
5. Syracuse, NY - 15.0%
6. Worcester, MA - 14.8%
7. Camden, NJ - 14.8%
8. Philadelphia, PA - 14.2%
9. Long Island, NY - 13.1%
10. Wilmington, DE-MD-NJ - 13.0%

chociprasa
05-30-2020, 04:55 PM
With the exception of the first two, Iberia.

Samnium
09-13-2020, 05:25 AM
Do they fit anywhere else other than Ireland and parts of Britain?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-10c917ecdcdb8f8a4d18c6e813f2d78f

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/7/7f/Kerry-condon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131014052322

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/39/56/5739562208e5397f36d84f912e187cb4--god-loves-me-irish-men.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a7/cc/23a7ccf24bfa023f6ef361d457f4152f.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/7f/c2/7d7fc2023a5c121a15685a698237027a.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/c7/a5/b8c7a534fc6b3088029acc8531d4f9f4.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5P81h1AhszM/hqdefault.jpg

Fit well in France. The third person is just an older me with a beard. :eek:

As a whole, they pass with difficulty in Southern Europe. Reason : Features and pigmentation (even if they are darker haired).

guyinsf
09-14-2020, 11:19 PM
They look very similar to many French atlantids like these (Ulliel Gaspard, Raphael Personnaz, Philippe Caroit, Delphine Chaneac)

https://i.imgur.com/HgMIU7m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4rnlJ2Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Bt4XY0B.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QAE0qGy.jpg

Daco Celtic
09-14-2020, 11:29 PM
Irish urban look, Irish Catholics. In America, they don't strike me as Scots-Irish from more rural areas.

guyinsf
09-15-2020, 12:20 AM
They look very similar to many French atlantids like these (Ulliel Gaspard, Raphael Personnaz, Philippe Caroit, Delphine Chaneac)

https://i.imgur.com/HgMIU7m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4rnlJ2Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Bt4XY0B.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QAE0qGy.jpg

Septentrion
01-15-2021, 03:33 AM
Do they fit anywhere else other than Ireland and parts of Britain?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-10c917ecdcdb8f8a4d18c6e813f2d78f

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/7/7f/Kerry-condon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131014052322

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/39/56/5739562208e5397f36d84f912e187cb4--god-loves-me-irish-men.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a7/cc/23a7ccf24bfa023f6ef361d457f4152f.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/7f/c2/7d7fc2023a5c121a15685a698237027a.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/c7/a5/b8c7a534fc6b3088029acc8531d4f9f4.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5P81h1AhszM/hqdefault.jpg

Iceland
West Norway
Denmark
Lithuania
North - West Germany
The Netherlands
Northern Belgium
North-Western France and Northern France
North - West Russia

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2021, 09:32 AM
Just watched a video about Dublin hosted by Ronnie Drew. This gentleman below.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5P81h1AhszM/hqdefault.jpg

Ronnie is no longer with us unfortunately but this is a very entertaining video if anyone want to watch and of course you get the see the great Ronnie Drew.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34bqPyteAMQ

Victor
01-15-2021, 09:52 AM
Some of them would pass as Georgians or Dagestanis :)

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2021, 10:56 AM
Some of them would pass as Georgians or Dagestanis :)

Interesting. Do you have any examples?

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2021, 11:01 AM
As a whole I feel like darker Irish folks don't fit that well as south European. I can't get too specific about the country because I'm really not sure but I would put this group in western Europe for sure. I can see the men in the second and also last photo passing in SW Europe. I will say I think of boxer Katie Tylor as an Irish person that passes in East Europe, but not south. I find her look fascinating.

Here is Katie Taylor in case people don't know her. She is a Gold Medal Olympic winning boxer for Ireland.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/68YTmXiVnU0/maxresdefault.jpg

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/bn/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Katie-Taylor-2.jpg

https://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2018/01/katie-taylor-78-310x415.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/13/article-2187628-14870D54000005DC-200_1024x615_large.jpg

Frowning Man
01-15-2021, 01:22 PM
Some of them would pass as Georgians or Dagestanis :)

Which ones look like Georgians? As a Georgian, I'm interested.

Septentrion
01-17-2021, 03:30 AM
Here is Katie Taylor in case people don't know her. She is a Gold Medal Olympic winning boxer for Ireland.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/68YTmXiVnU0/maxresdefault.jpg

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/bn/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Katie-Taylor-2.jpg

https://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2018/01/katie-taylor-78-310x415.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/13/article-2187628-14870D54000005DC-200_1024x615_large.jpg


No, she doesn't look Southern European at all! She looks more Icelandic or West Norwegian than anything. Anthropologically, she would fit within the Strandid phenotype of Northern Europe.

Septentrion
01-17-2021, 03:35 AM
You have forgotten her. She's from Western Ireland, her very pale skin, black hair and her deep piercing blue eyes will make her stand out anywhere. She looks like the "Irish stereotype". Although the vast majority of Irish people are not even black - haired.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c1215067f1d5d3e2d2ff49e8ec3b6005

Grace O'Malley
01-17-2021, 04:10 AM
You have forgotten her. She's from Western Ireland, her very pale skin, black hair and her deep piercing blue eyes will make her stand out anywhere. She looks like the "Irish stereotype". Although the vast majority of Irish people are not even black - haired.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c1215067f1d5d3e2d2ff49e8ec3b6005

How can you forget someone who you don't know exists? :p

Anyway that's what the song by Steve Earle is about. His homage to the Galway Girl.

And I ask you, friend, what's a fella to do
'Cause her hair was black and her eyes were blue


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lcnvd8BNFE

Septentrion
01-17-2021, 04:12 AM
As a whole I feel like darker Irish folks don't fit that well as south European. I can't get too specific about the country because I'm really not sure but I would put this group in western Europe for sure. I can see the men in the second and also last photo passing in SW Europe. I will say I think of boxer Katie Tylor as an Irish person that passes in East Europe, but not south. I find her look fascinating.

Darker Irish folks do not fit in Southern Europe. I don't even know why people spend time linking them to Southern Euros. Once in a while, one might but it's far from being common. They are on average too pale and too light - eyed, to be even Central Euros, let alone Southern Euros.

Luso
01-17-2021, 07:36 AM
These people are distinctively NW euro. They do not fit as avg in southern Europe, but could individually as a rarer type.

Hic et nunc
01-17-2021, 09:08 AM
Most of them would be at home in France. The contrast between pale skin, dark hair and light eyes of some is amazing.

Grace O'Malley
01-17-2021, 09:21 AM
Most of them would be at home in France. The contrast between pale skin, dark hair and light eyes of some is amazing.

I think it is a very attractive and striking combo. It's not common either.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-688e3f13b5a32e095ccc753dd7d80f36

https://64.media.tumblr.com/db3043f05c565db4806d8987f0f1031d/tumblr_notlw0mNez1qci1qdo3_r8_500.jpg

Samnium
01-17-2021, 09:51 AM
Do they fit anywhere else other than Ireland and parts of Britain?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-10c917ecdcdb8f8a4d18c6e813f2d78f

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/7/7f/Kerry-condon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131014052322

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/39/56/5739562208e5397f36d84f912e187cb4--god-loves-me-irish-men.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a7/cc/23a7ccf24bfa023f6ef361d457f4152f.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/7f/c2/7d7fc2023a5c121a15685a698237027a.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/c7/a5/b8c7a534fc6b3088029acc8531d4f9f4.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5P81h1AhszM/hqdefault.jpg

France, NW Europe (the first two ladies are very NW-looking) mainly

Also it's funny because I look a lot like the first guy (third picture), I think he looks quite French.

Graham
01-17-2021, 09:53 AM
Irish urban look, Irish Catholics. In America, they don't strike me as Scots-Irish from more rural areas.

What is the Scots-Irish look? If you stick an Northern Irish person in the middle of nowhere and then go mad with the freedom of space?

Septentrion
01-17-2021, 12:40 PM
Do they fit anywhere else other than Ireland and parts of Britain?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-10c917ecdcdb8f8a4d18c6e813f2d78f

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/7/7f/Kerry-condon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131014052322

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/57/39/56/5739562208e5397f36d84f912e187cb4--god-loves-me-irish-men.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/a7/cc/23a7ccf24bfa023f6ef361d457f4152f.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7d/7f/c2/7d7fc2023a5c121a15685a698237027a.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/c7/a5/b8c7a534fc6b3088029acc8531d4f9f4.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5P81h1AhszM/hqdefault.jpg

Although the combination of dark or black hair with blue or light eyes with a pale or fair skin is not as common as in Ireland or Britain or Iceland. There are plenty of Lithuanians who also have this type.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcToBTWA78VdhRyIgjcHGM_pIJrwrD4Ee heyzw&usqp=CAU

Grace O'Malley
01-17-2021, 01:07 PM
France, NW Europe (the first two ladies are very NW-looking) mainly

Also it's funny because I look a lot like the first guy (third picture), I think he looks quite French.

Maybe it depends on the picture. He is an Irish actor Kevin Ryan. No reason why some Irish can't look French either as I think there are some genetics in common.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qry8d4VsHuM/maxresdefault.jpg

https://static.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2012/01/copperkevin_ryan.jpg

https://cdn.xn--cumpleaosdefamosos-t0b.com/gallery/2017/1/kevin-ryan/kevin-ryan-foto-sexy-kevin-ryan-foto-caliente-kevin-ryan-foto-18.jpg

Grace O'Malley
01-17-2021, 01:09 PM
What is the Scots-Irish look? If you stick an Northern Irish person in the middle of nowhere and then go mad with the freedom of space?

I think he's joking. :) I find the Scots-Irish thing odd anyway. If they are originally Scots they should just call themselves Scots.

Hamilcar
01-17-2021, 01:16 PM
France and Belgium

XenophobicPrussian
01-17-2021, 01:29 PM
I think only 1, 5, 6 can pass as specifically only British Isles. 1 and 5 are gorgeous btw.

Graham
01-17-2021, 01:52 PM
I think he's joking. :) I find the Scots-Irish thing odd anyway. If they are originally Scots they should just call themselves Scots.

The Appalchian people seem very different to the staunch, no surrender, 1690 folk. ;)

Ranger0075
01-17-2021, 02:13 PM
2nd woman probably dyed her hair to black
Others except for 4th you can see some brownish undertones, they may be natural.
The 4th also look not natural, probably dyed too

Samnium
01-17-2021, 06:30 PM
Maybe it depends on the picture. He is an Irish actor Kevin Ryan. No reason why some Irish can't look French either as I think there are some genetics in common.



You find this kind of phenotypes in Britanny, Atlantic façade or Northern France. And yes, it's not surprising given genetical ties. (especially in Britanny I've seen Britton outliers scoring like Irish.... If I recall)

Grace O'Malley
01-19-2021, 10:59 AM
The Appalchian people seem very different to the staunch, no surrender, 1690 folk. ;)

Different environments. When they went to the US they wanted to get rid of the British but in Northern Ireland they wanted to keep British at all costs. :p

Kivan
01-19-2021, 11:14 AM
They resemble actors of American TV series, in my opinion.

#3, #4 and #5 have a more neutral look (and look Med influenced) and i can see they passing everywhere.
The others look more distinctly NW Euro in terms of features.

Grace O'Malley
01-19-2021, 11:28 AM
2nd woman probably dyed her hair to black
Others except for 4th you can see some brownish undertones, they may be natural.
The 4th also look not natural, probably dyed too

Yes some of the women have darkened their hair. Kerry Condon (2nd picture) for example has brown hair.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/irish-actress-kerry-condon-arrives-for-the-world-premiere-of-marvel-picture-id1138767206?s=612x612

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/7b/ef/227bef41cb48d3b0f92e0c00c33ea7d5.jpg

Katie McGrath's is more a dark brown than black. I think the black gives a striking look.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/eb/05/be/eb05be7fc12712d2f0aef572fcf12033.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Katie_McGrath_20100701_Japan_Expo_3_%28cropped%29. jpg/1200px-Katie_McGrath_20100701_Japan_Expo_3_%28cropped%29. jpg

Ranger0075
01-19-2021, 04:36 PM
Yes some of the women have darkened their hair. Kerry Condon (2nd picture) for example has brown hair.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/irish-actress-kerry-condon-arrives-for-the-world-premiere-of-marvel-picture-id1138767206?s=612x612

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/7b/ef/227bef41cb48d3b0f92e0c00c33ea7d5.jpg

Katie McGrath's is more a dark brown than black. I think the black gives a striking look.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/eb/05/be/eb05be7fc12712d2f0aef572fcf12033.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Katie_McGrath_20100701_Japan_Expo_3_%28cropped%29. jpg/1200px-Katie_McGrath_20100701_Japan_Expo_3_%28cropped%29. jpg

It makes sense, I am not expert about hair colors at all but since I do have black hair I think I can spot when they dont look natural to me. I am the only one of my family with so dark hair color, most are between brown or light brown. Some cousins of mine dyed their hair from brown to black, also look unnatural to me.

That combination dark hair+light eyes look handsome to me while I believe the opposite (light hair + dark eyes) may look weird or unnatural. I also have reddish beard and I think it doesnt match with me (dark hair+dark eyes)

Septentrion
02-03-2021, 01:59 AM
You find this kind of phenotypes in Britanny, Atlantic façade or Northern France. And yes, it's not surprising given genetical ties. (especially in Britanny I've seen Britton outliers scoring like Irish.... If I recall)

Yes, it is most common in Brittany, because Britons did settle the coastal areas at one point. It makes sense.

Henri729
02-03-2021, 04:51 AM
Germany, Norway, and Benelux + north of France.

I agree

Luso
02-03-2021, 05:08 AM
Sean Connery too? Might just have dark dark brown hair though. RIP. Loved this actor:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/NINTCHDBPICT000603842764.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIIF5-cWAAACGS5.jpg

Still looks distinctly NW euro to me in features. And I tend to notice this very quickly growing up around many Isles heritage people. But he could also be mistaken for half Irish half Italian in New York. But I do have to say, I could imagine him sitting in a cafe in Galicia near Portugal's border or something :D