Maykop - the arch-enemies of the Proto-Indo-Europeans

[Token]

Maykop, Nogir

1 West_Asian 44.79
2 East_Med 24.67
3 Atlantic 10.26
4 North_Sea 9.62
5 Baltic 6.66
6 Eastern_Euro 3.10

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kumyk @ 13.768524
2 Georgian @ 14.516523
3 Adygei @ 14.778051
4 Kabardin @ 17.134706
5 Ossetian @ 17.195433
6 North_Ossetian @ 17.228714
7 Balkar @ 17.593544
8 Lezgin @ 17.825243
9 Abhkasian @ 18.439465
10 Chechen @ 18.825766
11 Armenian @ 19.871000
12 Kurdish @ 19.902369
13 Azeri @ 20.074154
14 Turkish @ 20.789885
15 Tabassaran @ 21.060646
16 Georgian_Jewish @ 21.918053
17 Iranian @ 22.047560
18 Assyrian @ 26.039438
19 Turkmen @ 27.191105
20 Nogay @ 29.326460

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +50% North_Ossetian @ 10.741265


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% North_Ossetian @ 10.101285

Late Maykop, Marinskaya - L-L595

1 West_Asian 52.54
2 East_Med 22.86
3 Eastern_Euro 8.45
4 North_Sea 8.33
5 Baltic 4.82
6 Red_Sea 2.01

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Georgian @ 9.654910
2 Abhkasian @ 11.754141
3 Adygei @ 12.709604
4 Ossetian @ 14.460919
5 Kumyk @ 14.915594
6 Lezgin @ 15.307648
7 North_Ossetian @ 15.461216
8 Kabardin @ 16.447359
9 Balkar @ 16.487337
10 Chechen @ 16.796568
11 Tabassaran @ 18.835396
12 Kurdish @ 23.508766
13 Armenian @ 23.600052
14 Iranian @ 24.746529
15 Azeri @ 25.274630
16 Georgian_Jewish @ 25.755623
17 Turkish @ 27.784740
18 Turkmen @ 30.146318
19 Assyrian @ 30.737507
20 Nogay @ 32.586952

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +50% Lezgin @ 9.016643


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian +25% Georgian +25% Lezgin @ 8.321876

Steppe Maykop, Aygurskiy

1 Eastern_Euro 37.64
2 North_Sea 19.58
3 Amerindian 13.94
4 South_Asian 11.39
5 Baltic 8.84
6 West_Asian 8.62


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chuvash @ 25.838154
2 MA-1 @ 27.690889
3 Erzya @ 29.417225
4 Tatar @ 29.778179
5 Mari @ 29.946798
6 Kargopol_Russian @ 30.250935
7 East_Finnish @ 32.223698
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 35.052326
9 Southwest_Russian @ 35.081364
10 Ukrainian @ 35.998730
11 Moldavian @ 36.036251
12 Finnish @ 36.138184
13 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 36.791065
14 South_Polish @ 37.185371
15 Polish @ 37.496880
16 Estonian @ 37.509949
17 Estonian_Polish @ 37.510303
18 Russian_Smolensk @ 37.635971
19 Croatian @ 38.080235
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 38.134842

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Erzya +50% MA-1 @ 17.328333


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% MA-1 +25% North_Swedish +25% Tabassaran @ 17.141064

[Token]

North Caucasus steppe natives for comparison, they most likely spoke some kind of Indo-European language.

# Population Percent
1 Eastern_Euro 28.53
2 West_Asian 25.51
3 North_Sea 19.22
4 Baltic 14.72
5 South_Asian 7.06
6 Amerindian 4.96


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tatar @ 26.203526
2 Tabassaran @ 28.027719
3 Erzya @ 29.000278
4 Tadjik @ 29.926966
5 Moldavian @ 30.321888
6 Kargopol_Russian @ 30.398527
7 Lezgin @ 30.638252
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 30.671186
9 Chuvash @ 31.201365
10 Southwest_Russian @ 31.719410
11 Nogay @ 32.184761
12 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 32.460701
13 Ukrainian @ 32.618027
14 East_Finnish @ 32.826168
15 South_Polish @ 33.208351
16 Croatian @ 33.309612
17 Afghan_Pashtun @ 33.456581
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 33.482948
19 Chechen @ 33.716949
20 Russian_Smolensk @ 34.093845

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Erzya +50% Tabassaran @ 13.493535


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Erzya +25% Tabassaran +25% Tabassaran @ 13.493535

[Leto]

Post their HarappaWorld results, it's more suitable for such groups, I think.

[Token]

Post their HarappaWorld results, it's more suitable for such groups, I think.

North Caucasus steppe natives

1 NE-Euro 53.50
2 Baloch 34.26
3 American 4.92
4 Caucasian 4.41
5 Beringian 1.73
6 S-Indian 1.18


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 mordovian_yunusbayev @ 30.874945
2 chuvash_behar @ 32.067856
3 russian_hgdp @ 32.630119
4 ukranian_yunusbayev @ 34.556007
5 belorussian_behar @ 35.560631
6 russian_behar @ 35.932171
7 lithuanian_behar @ 36.669281
8 slovenian_xing @ 38.019283
9 hungarian_behar @ 38.493923
10 singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 39.676899
11 n-european_xing @ 39.679607
12 utahn-white_hapmap @ 39.689373
13 orcadian_hgdp @ 40.051472
14 utahn-white_1000genomes @ 40.822903
15 british_1000genomes @ 41.264275
16 serbian_harappa @ 41.386944
17 tajik_yunusbayev @ 42.456436
18 finnish_1000genomes @ 43.883781
19 haryana-jatt_harappa @ 44.521355
20 romanian-a_behar @ 46.155319

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% brahui_hgdp +50% finnish_1000genomes @ 17.556089


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% brahui_hgdp +25% finnish_1000genomes +25% finnish_1000genomes @ 17.556089

Maykop

1 Caucasian 49.61
2 Baloch 23.97
3 NE-Euro 15.13
4 Mediterranean 6.93
5 SW-Asian 4.25


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 kumyk_yunusbayev @ 7.406271
2 chechen_yunusbayev @ 9.146549
3 north-ossetian_harappa @ 9.703895
4 lezgin_behar @ 10.157307
5 balkar_yunusbayev @ 11.644476
6 adygei_hgdp @ 11.721758
7 stalskoe_xing @ 11.831787
8 azeri_harappa @ 11.923068
9 north-ossetian_yunusbayev @ 12.399343
10 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 12.896670
11 turk_behar @ 13.206177
12 kurd_yunusbayev @ 13.949838
13 urkarah_xing @ 14.239274
14 turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 14.523629
15 turkish_harappa @ 14.767120
16 armenian_behar @ 15.561788
17 kurd_xing @ 15.847322
18 iranian_harappa @ 16.147987
19 kurd_harappa @ 16.750219
20 georgian_harappa @ 17.149099

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% armenian_behar +50% urkarah_xing @ 3.629071

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% armenian_behar +25% urkarah_xing +25% urkarah_xing @ 3.629071

Steppe Maykop

1 NE-Euro 38.20
2 Baloch 36.78
3 Caucasian 11.74
4 American 6.57
5 Beringian 2.95
6 S-Indian 2.22
7 Siberian 1.26


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 tajik_yunusbayev @ 26.875788
2 haryana-jatt_harappa @ 32.509041
3 pashtun_harappa @ 33.710445
4 pathan_hgdp @ 35.245289
5 kalash_hgdp @ 35.421646
6 chuvash_behar @ 35.814861
7 urkarah_xing @ 36.118649
8 burusho_hgdp @ 36.608246
9 bhatia_harappa @ 36.757603
10 singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 37.125320
11 stalskoe_xing @ 37.134972
12 punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa @ 37.163776
13 turkmen_yunusbayev @ 38.196629
14 punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 38.664131
15 rajasthani-brahmin_harappa @ 38.853027
16 sindhi_harappa @ 38.903973
17 mordovian_yunusbayev @ 39.253464
18 serbian_harappa @ 39.303280
19 hungarian_behar @ 40.597927
20 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 40.634266

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% brahui_hgdp +50% russian_hgdp @ 13.993344

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% brahui_hgdp +25% finnish_1000genomes +25% mordovian_yunusbayev @ 13.326582

Caucasus Yamnaya

1 NE-Euro 58.80
2 Baloch 28.22
3 Caucasian 11.11
4 American 1.19


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 mordovian_yunusbayev @ 24.265276
2 russian_hgdp @ 26.209747
3 ukranian_yunusbayev @ 28.004965
4 russian_behar @ 28.221870
5 belorussian_behar @ 28.496965
6 chuvash_behar @ 28.594276
7 lithuanian_behar @ 30.045650
8 slovenian_xing @ 32.965343
9 hungarian_behar @ 33.926037
10 serbian_harappa @ 36.599609
11 n-european_xing @ 36.624855
12 finnish_1000genomes @ 36.959591
13 utahn-white_hapmap @ 36.994423
14 orcadian_hgdp @ 38.290096
15 utahn-white_1000genomes @ 38.484367
16 british_1000genomes @ 39.300396
17 singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 40.987602
18 romanian-a_behar @ 42.148495
19 bulgarian_yunusbayev @ 43.710777
20 french_hgdp @ 44.634453

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% finnish_1000genomes +50% tajik_yunusbayev @ 18.418362


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% finnish_1000genomes +25% makrani_hgdp +25% mordovian_yunusbayev @ 16.510532

[Leto]

Even the Maykop sample is part Steppe. The Amerindian is obviously some ANE-related stuff. I wonder why they are more Baloch than Caucasus.

[Voskos]

Its interesting that maykop scores high east med, which proves the said component is a west asian one.

[Proto-Shaman]

Do these people fit your arch enemy description?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bil_3IN-AXI

[Proto-Shaman]

The Amerindian is obviously some ANE-related stuff.
Corded Map (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283829161_Possible_North-Eastern_Connections_of_the_R1a1-populations_of_Corded_Ware_Culture_According_to_th e_Archaeologic_and_Paleogenetic_Data)
https://i.imgur.com/qbKslFN.jpg

Corded Ware Culture linked to the spread of ANE across Europe (https://web.archive.org/web/20170327215428/http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/corded-ware-culture-linked-to-spread-of.html)

http://rs296.pbsrc.com/albums/mm171/mls_rawr/pxels/z27358060wo7-1.gif~c200

GHOST POPULATION: (https://web.archive.org/web/20151216111915/http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2014/09/three-part-ancestry-europeans)


blood from an Asian nomad who blew into central Europe perhaps only about 4000 or 5000 years ago. This third major lineage originated somewhere in northwestern Asia, perhaps on the steppes of western Asia or in Eastern Europe. This is a "ghost lineage," because no pureblood member of this group survives today. But whoever these people were, their descendants successfully spread far and wide, for their genes show up not only in Europeans but also in Native Americans

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Do these people fit your arch enemy description?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bil_3IN-AXI

100%

[Token]

Do these people fit your arch enemy description?

Maykop vs Yamnaya in a nutshell:

https://themaclife.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Conor-versus-Khabib.png
https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/2018/10/07/15972a98-a191-4e18-9362-106bc7c6124f/khabib-mcgregor-ground.jpg

[Proto-Shaman]

Maykop vs Yamnaya in a nutshell:

https://themaclife.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Conor-versus-Khabib.png
https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/2018/10/07/15972a98-a191-4e18-9362-106bc7c6124f/khabib-mcgregor-ground.jpg
My haplogroup was also found in Maykop. So, I represent my Dagestani friend :)

[Proto-Shaman]

long live Maykopians :P


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXdNwpIB_Vw

[Proto-Shaman]

North Caucasus steppe natives for comparison, they most likely spoke some kind of Indo-European language.

# Population Percent
1 Eastern_Euro 28.53
2 West_Asian 25.51
3 North_Sea 19.22
4 Baltic 14.72
5 South_Asian 7.06
6 Amerindian 4.96


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tatar @ 26.203526
2 Tabassaran @ 28.027719
3 Erzya @ 29.000278
4 Tadjik @ 29.926966
5 Moldavian @ 30.321888
6 Kargopol_Russian @ 30.398527
7 Lezgin @ 30.638252
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 30.671186
9 Chuvash @ 31.201365
10 Southwest_Russian @ 31.719410
11 Nogay @ 32.184761
12 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 32.460701
13 Ukrainian @ 32.618027
14 East_Finnish @ 32.826168
15 South_Polish @ 33.208351
16 Croatian @ 33.309612
17 Afghan_Pashtun @ 33.456581
18 Afghan_Tadjik @ 33.482948
19 Chechen @ 33.716949
20 Russian_Smolensk @ 34.093845

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Erzya +50% Tabassaran @ 13.493535


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Erzya +25% Tabassaran +25% Tabassaran @ 13.493535

kit?

[Rumata]

I think some of my ancestors lived very close to Maykop some 150 years ago and earlier. I was born in that city too.

[Leto]

I think some of my ancestors lived very close to Maykop some 150 years ago and earlier. I was born in that city too.
You are a true Steppe dude :cool:

[Proto-Shaman]

Nice avatar btw! let's "steppe" into the future!
https://i.imgur.com/eCpPZBP.jpg

[Crimson Winds]

Non-steppe Maykop fits perfectly to my proto-Circassian prediction. Refined from Scyto-Turkic mix and plots somewhere between Circassians and Georgians.

[Borealis]

It is very weird that these Indo-Europeans are the ancestors of us all. They seem like superhuman beings but in reality they had their villages, towns, lives, and enemies just as we did and do.

[Rumata]

You are a true Steppe dude :cool:

let's "steppe" into the future!

Why "steppe", guys :D Do you think that Maykop culture was mostly a "steppe culture" despite being placed mostly in mountains and near them? I just know too little about the subject...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Maykop_culture-nl.svg/1200px-Maykop_culture-nl.svg.png

[Proto-Shaman]

Why "steppe", guys :D Do you think that Maykop culture was mostly a "steppe culture" despite being placed mostly in mountains and near them? I just know too little about the subject...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Maykop_culture-nl.svg/1200px-Maykop_culture-nl.svg.png
They were mixed.