Main types and best fit for these Polish HS students from Lower Silesia

[Roy]

From Legnica, Wrocław,Świdnica, Bolesławiec, Lubin, Lubań etc. Where do they fit / pass well?

http://1liceum.pl/photos/normal/2016-10-02-22-21-55-799187868.jpg

http://www.lo1glogow.pl/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/3c.jpg

http://www.loxv.wroclaw.pl/site_media/uploads/2016_2017/wp_20161026_13_29_24_pro.jpg

https://d-nm.ppstatic.pl/kadr/k/r/3c/49/572b1be83004a_o,size,933x0,q,70,h,848722.jpg

http://pierwszeliceum.bedzin.pl/kopernik/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/received_511616649307238.jpeg

http://www.lo3.net.pl/uczniowie/2012_2013/3b.jpg

http://lo.boleslawiec.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/wlochy-932x620.jpg

http://pierwszeliceum.bedzin.pl/kopernik/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/101204277.jpg

http://www.lo3.net.pl/uczniowie/2005_2006/3b.jpg

https://swidnica24.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IIIa.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1gEU1kg.jpg

http://www.lubanski.eu/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/scena.jpg

http://2lo.legnica.eu/wp-content/gallery/sport/plywanie-2016.JPG

http://i.imgur.com/Zx492co.jpg

https://swidnica24.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IIIb-1024x682.jpg

http://2lo.legnica.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/IMG_4960.jpg

https://swidnica24.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/III-B.jpg

https://d-nm.ppstatic.pl/kadr/k/r/06/57/5342a56f95aa7_o,size,933x0,q,70,h,8564a3.jpg

https://d-art.ppstatic.pl/kadry/k/r/6f/1a/4bebcb4e25df6_o_mini.jpg

http://2lo.legnica.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/47016292_2432804646734153_8420666220012896256_n.jp g

http://2lo.legnica.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/biegi-prze%C5%82-wrzesie%C5%84-2016.jpg

http://www.2loddz.esy.es/index.php/galeria/z-zycia-szkoly/image?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=391

http://2loddz.esy.es/index.php/galeria/z-zycia-szkoly/image?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=292

http://1lo.lubin.pl/images/DSC_0413.JPG

http://zspwinsko.pl/files/DSC_0028.JPG

https://www.nj24.pl/sites/default/files/article/main/58938/nabor_01.jpg

http://www.pzs1trzebnica.pl/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/18699582_1397221470323502_1667058580043912687_o-720x426.jpg

http://2lo.legnica.eu/wp-content/gallery/wydarzenia-1/IMG_1620.JPG

http://1lo.lubin.pl/images/15970603_1257155811018449_1250185788_n.jpg

https://d-art.ppstatic.pl/kadry/k/r/67/3c/573c2b9a3e689_o_full.jpg

[Kivan]

Alpinids, Subnordids, West and East Baltids, Cromagnids + some Neo-Danubians, North-Pontids and Atlantids.

Best fit probably would be Ukraine, Belarus, Russia and Baltic states, i guess.

[Blondie]

Neo danubian, baltid, subnordid, alpinid, pontid, minor turanid and dinarid. They look central european.

[Cumansky]

I already had tattoos and muscle at this age, you should do Upper Silesia also maybe more interesting, actually my sister was born in the town Luban

Noric, East Nordid, Dinarid, Pontid, Borreby Baltid, North Pontid, Tronder

[Roy]

Alpinids, Subnordids, West and East Baltids, Cromagnids + some Neo-Danubians, North-Pontids and Atlantids.

Best fit probably would be Ukraine, Belarus, Russia and Baltic states, i guess.

I think Slovakia, Slovenia and Czech Republic, Hungary are good fits too. Germany to some lesser extent & Austria.

[Cumansky]

Couple pass in Belarus, Ukraine, Romania

Unfortunately many in Dolny Slask are nowadays German infected, atleast to my eye.

[Roy]

Couple pass in Belarus, Ukraine, Romania

Unfortunately many in Dolny Slask are nowadays German infected, atleast to my eye.

What do you mean? :confused:

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

They fit in Slovenia real good, better than I tought. Many Gorids , Norics, Pontids some Baltids and Nordids also.

[Roy]

They fit in Slovenia real good, better than I tought. Many Gorids , Norics, Pontids some Baltids and Nordids also.

Yeah. I was also quite struck by the extent of similarities and the overlap of these Slovenians from your group to Polish people of my region who have pretty much the same pigmentation. And I also noticed these similarities in phenotypes few times when I was in Slovenia briefly. They were more like Polish people than they seem to be like Serbs who are South Slavic linguistically too and ex-Yugo.

[Hungarian_master]

Baltid, West Baltid, Gorid, Norid, Dinarid, Pontid and North Pontid.

Good Central-East Euro bunch.

[Roy]

Baltid, West Baltid, Gorid, Norid, Dinarid, Pontid and North Pontid.

Good Central-East Euro bunch.

How do they pass as Hungarians?

[Tooting Carmen]

Lots of Gorids and Norids. Very Slavic-looking bunch. And no, they are not especially blonder than Brits.

[Sikeliot]

They look a bit East Slavic oddly enough despite being from a region bordering Germany.

[Kivan]

I think Slovakia, Slovenia and Czech Republic, Hungary are good fits too. Germany to some lesser extent & Austria.

Yes, i think many of them might fit in. But at same time, many look East-Baltid admixed, phenotype which is not common in most of these countries, as far i'm concerned.

[Blondie]

How do they pass as Hungarians?

They can pass in Hungary as well.

[Hungarian_master]

They can pass in Hungary as well.

+1

[Dna8]

In terms of aesthetics, these students plot East, West, North and Central.. in every which direction, except southwards enough, into the Balkans proper.

[Roy]

Corrected for some mistakes ... some random class from Krzepice (Upper Silesian) voivodeship crept in. :rolleyes:

[Roy]

Yes, i think many of them might fit in. But at same time, many look East-Baltid admixed, phenotype which is not common in most of these countries, as far i'm concerned.


You can find the same type among these Slovenians too.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278770-Main-types-and-best-fit-for-Slovene-HS-Graduates

[Roy]

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[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You can find the same types among these Slovenians too.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278770-Main-types-and-best-fit-for-Slovene-HS-Graduates

They look more Slovenian than Russian dude. That's my opinion at least.

[Roy]

They look more Slovenian than Russian dude. That's my opinion at least.

Likely they do, albeit many Russians can pass here with no problems too. R1a Slavic brothers.

[cass]

They look a bit East Slavic oddly enough despite being from a region bordering Germany.

They are mainly descendants of population forcefully resettled from Eastern Poland (now Ukraine).

This is reflected in their genetic profile.

http://www.zgms.cm.umk.pl/prace/428-443.pdf "Significant genetic differentiation between Poland and Germany follows present-day political borders, as revealed by Y-chromosome analysis"

[Alenka]

They fit in Slovenia real good, better than I tought.
My thoughts also, really familiar faces.

[Roy]

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[Peterski]

They fit in Slovenia real good, better than I tought.
They look more Slovenian than Russian dude. That's my opinion at least.
They can pass in Hungary as well.

They are mostly Eastern Poles (from Lviv, Volyn, etc.) by origin:

https://i.imgur.com/nijxyZJ.png

[Roy]

They are mainly descendants of population forcefully resettled from Eastern Poland (now Ukraine).

This is reflected in their genetic profile.

http://www.zgms.cm.umk.pl/prace/428-443.pdf "Significant genetic differentiation between Poland and Germany follows present-day political borders, as revealed by Y-chromosome analysis"


Only 50% or much less depending on the place though have grand/great-grandparents from Kresy (parts of Poland nowadays in Lithuania, Belarus & Ukraine) except for Zgorzelec where it's more. The rest is composed by people who were settlers from Wielkopolska (Greater Poland) to the north and Małopolska afaik. That Kresy-thing is quite overexaggerated to the best of my knowledge.

[cass]

Only 50% or much less depending on the place though have grand/great-grandparents from Kresy (parts of Poland nowadays in Lithuania, Belarus & Ukraine) except for Zgorzelec where it's more. The rest is composed by people who were settlers from Wielkopolska (Greater Poland) to the north and Małopolska afaik. That Kresy-thing is quite overexaggerated to the best of my knowledge.

I doubt there were many transports from Lithuania or Belarus to L.Silesia. Genetically Wroclaw Poles are close to Ukrainians with 11.9% E3b, 5% N3 and less then 50% of R1a1.

[Roy]

I doubt there were many transports from Lithuania or Belarus to L.Silesia. Genetically Wroclaw Poles are close to Ukrainians with 11.9% E3b, 5% N3 and less then 50% of R1a1.

There were more from Ukraine here like areas around Lviv (Lwów), Stryi or Ivano-Frankivsk than from Lithuania or Belarus.

[Roy]

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[Cumansky]

Only 50% or much less depending on the place though have grand/great-grandparents from Kresy (parts of Poland nowadays in Lithuania, Belarus & Ukraine) except for Zgorzelec where it's more. The rest is composed by people who were settlers from Wielkopolska (Greater Poland) to the north and Małopolska afaik. That Kresy-thing is quite overexaggerated to the best of my knowledge.

You think Zgorzelec has highest arrivals from Kresy after war?

[Cumansky]

They are mainly descendants of population forcefully resettled from Eastern Poland (now Ukraine).

This is reflected in their genetic profile.

http://www.zgms.cm.umk.pl/prace/428-443.pdf "Significant genetic differentiation between Poland and Germany follows present-day political borders, as revealed by Y-chromosome analysis"

Next time choose your words you weak bitch, is not Kresy border Germans has invade in September 1939

[cass]

Next time choose your words you weak bitch, is not Kresy border Germans has invade in September 1939

You are so primitive and unstable, so governed by emotions, I feel sorry for you.

[Cumansky]

You are so primitive and unstable, so governed by emotions, I feel sorry for you.

You a weak bitch, my ancestors fought with honor, go back to Scandinavia or wherever iceberg you Prussians arrived from

If I was in government power as my ancestors, I would have all you Prussians citizen revoked faster than Donald Trump start building a wall

[cass]

You a weak bitch, my ancestors fought with honor...

It's very doubtful. You know nothing about Boziewicz Code.

[Roy]

Please mods - clean up this thread.

[Roy]

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[CommonSense]

Hey, since you asked for my opinion - most of them wouldn't be typical here. Light or brunette, they all have a strong Slavic appearance and the only South Slavic country they could pass in would be Slovenia.

[Moje ime]

most of them wouldn't be typical here.

I agree with this. Especially boys.

[Davy Jones's Locker]

All of the half dozen or so major European components (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?11365-What-does-a-basic-racial-typology-describe-in-Europe) are represented in these pictures. People can often show a combination of types resulting in e.g. 'Gorid (http://humanphenotypes.net/Gorid.html)'.

In regards the major components, I'd guess Alpine and Baltic are the primary type, which you can see for example on the bottom right of the second picture. Also on the ("Swidnica") 10th picture, two females sitting on their desks in the (right of) second row are Baltic.

Mediterranean ('Pontid') and Nordic influence is also common. There's a male at the back of the picture with all green shirts who seems a good example of the latter. Whilst one can see Dinaric elements I do not think they are as frequent as those previously mentioned. Just my opinion. :)

[Aiwado]

Alpinids and Baltids.

[Roy]

Baltid, West Baltid, Gorid, Norid, Dinarid, Pontid and North Pontid.

Good Central-East Euro bunch.

Do they pass better in Hungary or in Ukraine? Or it is about the same in this matter?

[Roy]

You think Zgorzelec has highest arrivals from Kresy after war?

It does. They even use some old words that were characteristic of Kresy.

[Hungarian_master]

Do they pass better in Hungary or in Ukraine? Or it is about the same in this matter?

Hungary.

They look more Central-East Euro than East Slavic.

[Benyzero]

Hungary.

They look more Central-East Euro than East Slavic.

The master has declared his viewpoints.

[Roy]

Hungary.

They look more Central-East Euro than East Slavic.

I think you're right, especially as many Ukrainians look kinda out of place in my region of Poland for some reason. I think there are some places where overlap with them is bigger.

[Roy]

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